who is Bob Lefsetz?

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I find myself all of a sudden talking with "industry people" -- not my chosen path. Quite a few tell me to sign up for the "Bob Lefsetz Letter." So I do. It's an email list, where this person writes screeds that seem to be about 1) hating music festivals 2) the tropical paradise he's visiting 3) using CAPTIAL LETTERS in the middle of otherwise PASSIVE STATEMENTS

The people that recommended this list are a bit older, ex-radio guys or digital music industry guys. I google for Mr. Lefsetz but can only find "Industry Legend" as a bio. I like a little context with my rants-- why am I reading these emails? Who is this guy? Is it a Dvorak-style amalgam of ex-ATN writers taking the piss? Is it Ned Raggett?

neustile (neustile), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

As to the last question, no. Never heard of this Bob guy before, to my knowledge.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm! I have read some issues of the "Lefsetz Letter" - when it still was a printed-on-paper-and-everything thing-y, waaay back in the early 90s :)
Well it was, well, well fun to read then, I recall. I've no idea what he writes about, and how, these days.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

For a taste, the latest mail just came in:

But I've got to warn you. There are SEA CUCUMBERS!

Oh, you wear reef shoes. But littered on the bottom of the ocean are these...well, CUCUMBERS! But they're alive. And squishy. And they urinate. And it's almost so gross you don't want to go in. You CERTAINLY don't want to step on one.


neustile (neustile), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Not that they're his only audience, but older music industry professionals who don't have a strong grasp of the Internet seem to believe Lefsetz is the one peer with a finger on its pulse. I see some of his stuff via other email lists and tend to find him wrong.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:38 (sixteen years ago) link

extremely old industry legend fart who used to like music when it was, ya know, BETTER. hates young people. probably hates old people too. undoubtedly hates HIMSELF. so consistently and hilariously WRONG that sometimes he's actually RIGHT.

"Dvorak-style amalgam of ex-ATN writers taking the piss" is the FUNNIEST PHRASE I HAVE READ ALL DAY though i don't know why.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Lefsetz's blog is at http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/

He also turns up on the Rhino podcast with hystronic tirades about The State Of Things and endless flashbacks to his life in the 70s when things were So Much Better. In short, he's one of the Ghost World record collectors only with an income.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, I heard he was Luther Campbell.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:42 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

You know what brings you back, again and again, to Bob Lefsetz? It's the PASSION. Oh, you can try to stay away. You can subscribe to a million other blogs. You can tell yourself that music's changed, or that you've changed, or that you don't understand anymore. But you know what? It's not that you've got older - it's that your generation has lost touch! They've SOLD OUT. And it's the KIDS on the INTERNET with thei iPods and their Blackberries who are reminding you why you got into this WHOLE CRAZY FUCKING BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. It's the MUSIC! Oh, you can tell yourself it isn't. BUT IT IS. And if you don't listen, you and every other exec LEECHING off the hindquarters of a MEMORY is going to BITE THE FUCKING DUST!

moley, Sunday, 24 June 2007 10:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I unsubscribed offa the Lef'Letter again awhile ago.

t**t, Sunday, 24 June 2007 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously though his blog is my fave industry read and has been for a while now.

moley, Monday, 25 June 2007 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

omg somebody's gotta imagebomb this dude and his ridiculous opinions

Another thread on him. Also, Chuck mentioned and quoted a recent Lefsetz country music and Sirius radio thing on the Rolling Country thread.

curmudgeon, Monday, 25 June 2007 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

His most recent column begins 'I was at the psychiatrist today...'. Magnificent. We are Lefsetz FANATICS at our house. Oh, you can laugh. But that's because you're HISTORY.

moley, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:04 (fourteen years ago) link

How about that T.I. diatribe...Is he right about touring rock bands having more sustained longevity than rappers or pop acts?

But I'll take T.I. over Rory Gallagher and many of the washed-up blooz-rockers and classic-rock dudes he loves.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Is he right about touring rock bands having more sustained longevity than rappers or pop acts?...YES

...he must have a lot of time on his hands and he reminds me of mixerman

pollywog, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Who's mixerman? I think Lefsetz is a retired music biz attorney.

One of his pet themes is that only individuals whom he says audiences perceive as 'real' will have lasting careers. He says this does not include American Idol performers and most rappers and pop acts.

Nelly Furtado Thursday 6/7/07 The WaMu Theater at Madison Square Garden, New York, NY Gross: $316,400 4,992/4,992 (100% Ticket prices: $65.00/$45.00 That was her best gig. In Boston, she did 3,644 out of 6,500 (56.1%). In Sayreville, NJ, she did 1,165 out of 2,050 (56.8%). In Detroit, she did 1,761 out of 2,585 (68.1%). In Grand Prairie, TX, she did 2,375 out of 2,503 (94.9%). In other words, she did SHITTY! And these weren't big halls to begin with, positively small, THEATRES! Her album has sold 1,873,719 copies, it's still number 50 on the chart A YEAR LATER! In other words, record sales don't mean shit. Work with Timbaland all you want. Have a hit on Top Forty radio that fewer people are listening to every day. Most people are not paying attention. They don't think you're REAL! Real acts don't conspire with a multitude of people, the usual suspects, to create their of the moment music. No one's even going to REMEMBER her tracks half a decade from now. No one's even going to PLAY them! (Have you heard Eminem recently?) It's not about music being stolen, that's not the big story in the music business today. It's about the bifurcation in its soul. Touring used to reflect record sales. No longer is this the case. And the real acts, the lasting acts, can all do good live business. The public got the memo, the press has not. As for the major labels? If they want a taste of every piece of the pie they've got to be trustworthy, have the act's best interests at heart. Ain't that a laugh.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

so bob thinks the PUBLIC wants REAL, but it's hard to notice that said public has responded to THE REAL BOB himself by leaving ZERO COMMENTS so far on his latest blog post. ZERO COMMENTS on the post before that. ZERO COMMENTS on his LAST FOUR POSTS, in fact. the one before that elicited ONE COMMENT. so maybe everyone's talking about him but NO ONE CARES. most people are not paying attention. in other words, capital-letter posts about THE REAL don't mean shit. on the other hand, matthew fluxblog, champion of the pop, the artificial, the unreal, got 14 COMMENTS on his most recent posts. and 20 COMMENTS on the one before that. and 12 comments for his thoughts on KELLY CLARKSON. take that, bob!

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link

So who's READING these blogs? The Arizona girl you met at UCLA you secretly wanted to fuck? NO! That aging A&R rep with the combover whose ass you wanted to kick cos he thought he was DOWN with the kids? NO-ONE who CARES about MUSIC reads BLOGS! They're too busy LIVING! And what do they want as their soundtrack to life? Music about LOVE - love gained, love lost, love refrigerated briefly prior to baking. LOVE is what keeps us coming back to music. NOT blogs. NOT UCLA postgrad programs. NOT even Arizona girls. And especially not Matthew fucking PERPETUA.

moley, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Who's mixerman?


Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:56 (fourteen years ago) link

With just a few changes to the word lists, Lefsetz could pass for a SubGenius spewbot.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:57 (fourteen years ago) link

ctrl-f HITS not found

hstencil, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Bob always quotes 2 types of e-mail responses he gets (as many folks receive his stuff via e-mail rather than looking at his site)--from retired or current folks in the biz, or from ordinary folks who tell him how much they love 'real' music and then proceed to enthuse about the most bland middlebrow rock. The tone in both types of responses are often pretty amusing.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

But I'll take T.I. over Rory Gallagher

Any sane person would. (Which says it all.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link


P'zone, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I never heard of this guy until yesterday, but his old timer shtick is kind of entertaining, I read it hearing the voice of Bob "The Kid Stays In The Picture" Evans, and then think of the Martin Landau character from Entourage.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Subscribed a couple of weeks ago after someone mentioned him on the Radiohead thread, I tried, but I just don't get it, unsubscribed again.

Random thoughts that go nowhere, boasting about scoring a tour jacket from a 70's Clapton tour, comments from people who apparently do get what he means, irrelevant grumpy old man stuff, nothing I want to read about several times a day.

Am I missing something or is that it?

StanM, Thursday, 25 October 2007 08:38 (fourteen years ago) link

His rants against the music biz, while largely predictable at this point, are often entertaining reading. Same goes for his stories of his life and his nostalgia.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 October 2007 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Article on Lefsetz in the Washington Post

moley, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

The fact that he is "one of the music industry's most influential analysts" speaks volumes. If you pretend you're reading an Onion editorial his pieces are entertaining though.

Mark Rich@rdson, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link

When I worked at Rhino, I'd hear stories about Bob's refusals to edit his histrionic rants. Consequently, most 'casts were 90 percent wall-bouncing froth over Spirit's Dr. Sardonicus and tear-soaked Aspen weekends in '75 when MUSIC and LOVE were REAL and YOUNG, 10 percent contributions from actual Rhino employees.

Terrible Cold, Monday, 31 March 2008 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

He's like Lsetz, the Dean of Music Analysis.

StanM, Monday, 31 March 2008 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh not that guy again. There was also this interesting take on Feist.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 31 March 2008 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link


James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

he reminds me of ben gazzara as jackie treehorn: "we used to have a little thing called production values... FEELINGS..."

gff, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

That and the Onion editorial comment both made me roffle.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 31 March 2008 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link


Elvis Telecom, Monday, 31 March 2008 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I kinda like reading his rants as SubGenius devival art but the guy can't be bothered to put the full text of his posts in his RSS feed so screw it.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 31 March 2008 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL at his anti-Ticketmaster rant. Welcome to 1994 Bob!

MC, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

oh man is he ever happy about the new Tom Petty

J0hn D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Mudcrutch vs. Tin Machine

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm officially starting the trend of calling them The Crutch.

dudes don't harsh The Crutch

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

dude, The Crutch killed it last nite at the cow palace

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Pure seventies. Pure magic.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

dude the crutch don't know any other way to rock.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Pure seventies. Pure magic.

this was totally my favorite line

J0hn D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Kind of sums it all up, doesn't it?

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

White Room

by Bob Lefsetz

The sixties were different. They were light, and dark, and nothing in between. Today we live in the gray. In the onslaught of media, nothing sticks out, nothing is in relief, we're all hiding in our bunkers, trying to figure it all out. But, in the sixties, we ventured out, we wanted to experience IT ALL!

In the sixties there was context. It wasn't like today, where without a major hype campaign nobody knows the story. We only had three TV networks. "Rolling Stone" didn't come on the scene until the end of the decade. There were limited media outlets, and we paid attention. The big breakthrough was FM underground radio, and you were lucky if you had an outlet in your community, where you could hear Cream.

Cream was something you heard about from your friends. You went over to somebody's house and they played you "Sunshine Of Your Love". Pete Townshend eventually sang about one note, pure and easy, playing so free, but really it was one RIFF that people lined up behind. And that riff, the one that got it all started, was the one from "Sunshine Of Your Love".

Listen to "Sunshine Of Your Love" today, you'll be STUNNED how little is on the record. God, it sounds like there were NO overdubs, just a power trio laying it down. Still, it wasn't just the notes Clapton was playing, it was the SOUND of those notes. There was a RICHNESS in this hard rock, a SWEETNESS! This wasn't music for boys only, this was music for EVERYBODY with genitals. It had such a weird effect on you, hearing this sound, you felt it in different parts of your body, your brain, your lower abdomen and your groin. Right after the set-up, after the richness, there's this bit of distortion in the guitar, you feel like you're in it for the long haul, to climax, four minutes hence.

Hearing "Sunshine Of Your Love" you had to buy "Disraeli Gears". And that's when you discovered it, the essence, opening side two.

Today the label picks the track, and what's left of radio takes instruction, it's all a CAMPAIGN, which you're AWARE OF! But listening to FM back then was like listening to XM today. Your relationship is with the DEEJAY! Not his voice, not his inane rap like on Sirius, but his CHOICES! That's why we love people, because of who they ARE! And when you heard "Tales Of Brave Ulysses" on the radio your life was made, the same way when Mike Marrone plays some obscure cut that only I thought I knew it makes my day.

One can argue quite strongly the first Cream album is the best. The sound isn't as good as "Disraeli Gears", but overall the songs are BETTER!

But after "Disraeli Gears", the songs got worse. Except for the unexpected "Badge", NOTHING was the caliber of what came before. Still, there was a huge hit on "Wheels Of Fire", a simple song, but one with a monster riff so exquisite that we were touched once again. It was just the SOUND of Clapton's guitar, it sounded like he was WEEPING! But then Ginger hit the drum, and Jack sang richly. Yes, as great as Clapton was, Jack's vocals were a key element of the band.

The dude who made available the MP3s of the Royal Albert Hall show left three out, the last three numbers of the concert. He hopped to, posted them on the site, and I just downloaded them, and heard "White Room".

I don't understand flying around the world to see a band. That's not what rock and roll is about. Rock and roll is about scraping up every dollar you've got, eating the equivalent of dog food just so you can AFFORD to go to the gig. The gig isn't an afterthought, ONE thing you can acquire, experience, but the ONLY thing!

While we were experiencing flower power in the U.S., the Brits were experiencing rain. The music from across the pond was different from ours. It wasn't sunny, it was dark. Made in the U.K., it was America's dark underbelly. It coexisted with Monkees hits. It was necessary, for balance.

Flying across the pond forty years later has NO darkness. Unless you saved up every last dollar you had and slept on the street in order to go.

And, going was SO much different then. You went ALL THE TIME! Because the tickets were CHEAP! Under five bucks. The concert experience wasn't about preferred parking and alcohol, it was about the MUSIC!

And that music can be heard in Cream's rendition of "White Room" on May 5th.

Eric gets that unique guitar sound. But really, it's Ginger's drums. You can hear the FEROCITY!

And then, on top of it all, in comes Jack.

Oh, he's singing along, all those words you remember. And then you hear it...

"I'll wait in this place where the sun never shines Wait in this place where the shadows run from themselves"

I'm waiting for this place to return. Where business trumps art. Where creativity is revered over music. Where the messiah returns.

Religious zealots think the messiah is going to come from heaven. Down to save us.

But I don't believe that. I don't believe in a higher power. I believe in people. Their ability to triumph, do the right thing, against incredible odds.

Here, just before the show is over, almost two hours into it, having deliv ered upon expectations, Cream FINALLY throws off the limitations and just RIPS! THIS is music-making. When you're no longer going by the rehearsal, when you're just WINGING IT! When you stop concentrating on being together, do your own thing and it all FALLS INTO PLACE!

And a little over halfway through the number, Eric finally takes center stage, he finally WAILS! Not in the way he has for the past thirty years, but the way he did with John Mayall, as a SIDEMAN! In the tradition of great bluesmen, he's taking his LICKS! He's just part of the club.

And all these years later, it's still a championship team.

Mr. Big STFU (ojo), Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

How many of his letters start out with something about the sixties or the classic era being "different"?

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Lefzetz meets Pitchfork, world implodes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:30 (ten years ago) link

I just finished the Sanneh book. It's good, and it's nothing if not well-researched. It's about more than just one generation's perception of rock 'n' roll, which may be what throws Lefsetz. Also, it's explicitly about the evolution of the major genres from 1970 on so it's not trying to tell the whole history of rock 'n' roll (although there's some backtracking to provide relevant context).

Not being that familiar with Lefsetz's schtick, I would be curious when exactly in his opinion "it all imploded."

Josefa, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:50 (eight months ago) link

when exactly in his opinion "it all imploded."

When they stopped playing Doobie Brothers deep tracks on the radio.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 25 October 2021 20:51 (eight months ago) link

the exact moment he crossed the 50% baldness threshold

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:55 (eight months ago) link

When he caught WRKI I95 NOT playing three Led Zeppelin sings in a row without a commercial break on “Get the Led Out Monday.”

Typo? Negative! (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 00:48 (seven months ago) link

four weeks pass...

it's important to remember who the real victim is here!

So this ignorant punk uses the N-Word. He's so dumb and uninformed that he doesn't realize only Black people can utter it, like Dave Chappelle at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony. But Wallen, like the rest of young America, has listened to a zillion rap songs, he's invested in the culture, because hip-hop is American culture, but since he's living in the boonies he doesn't know how to behave, what he can say or what he can't. It's not like he used the N-Word as a put-down, in fact it was as a term of endearment. That doesn't justify its use, but the penalty here far outweighs the crime.

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:30 (seven months ago) link

i think i'd like to start an online harassment campaign to get this fucking dunce to just shut up. I'VE HAD ENOUGH DAMMIT.

please don't refer to me as (Austin), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:52 (seven months ago) link

lefsetz can't be canceled because nobody knows what the hell he does

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:54 (seven months ago) link

that's what i mean, i don't want him to be "CANCELLED" or whatever — just stop talking, friend. we're all tired of it.

please don't refer to me as (Austin), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:09 (seven months ago) link

nobody knows what the hell he does

Professional Cloud Yeller At-er

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:56 (seven months ago) link

in that case, maybe he can be canceled by a lightning bolt

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:59 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

yes, there are record stores, selling vinyl, catering to the diehards, but the truth is the masses have moved on to streaming, on demand, and there are always Luddites and fetishists keeping the old game alive. Hell, people ride HORSES!

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 21:13 (five months ago) link


Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 21:19 (five months ago) link

it's amazing how his big insight is "streaming is popular" and he just keeps repeating it forever

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 22:51 (five months ago) link

And the biggest star to die is John Madden. Bigger than the passing of Harry Reid. And you know why...BECAUSE HE WAS HONEST!

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Friday, 31 December 2021 16:51 (five months ago) link

i've written about a dozen different responses to that and have deleted all of them because i think it's reached a point where i don't understand the joke anymore. legitimately confused here.

but i mean . . . okay, sure. get 'em, lef!

please don't refer to me as (Austin), Friday, 31 December 2021 18:18 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

When was the last time we had a "Squid Game" in the music business...GNARLS BARKLEY?

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 27 January 2022 05:05 (four months ago) link

Put this man out to pasture

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 January 2022 05:06 (four months ago) link

A similar dynamic is at play when comparing BTS’ Butter with Adele’s Easy on Me. Easy on Me was the cultural moment, with the massive initial wave of listening soon dropping off, while Butter was a cultural movement, which sustained throughout the first 6 days of release at pretty much the same level. Adele was Bond, while BTS was Squid Game – perhaps no coincidence that their nationalities match too.

west elm girls (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 January 2022 15:41 (four months ago) link


The letter is interesting because he makes an interesting observation but just absolutely whiffs on the follow-up and clearly has no metric for anything beyond "people I talk to on the internet"

west elm girls (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 January 2022 15:46 (four months ago) link

Like if the numbers/cultural impact reveals anything, it's how much the "conversation" is — and always has been — driven by the likes and whims of middlebrow white people

west elm girls (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 January 2022 15:49 (four months ago) link

Easy on Me is 10 on the US Spotify Top 50 US and 6 on Top 50 Global

Butter isn't on either chart

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 January 2022 16:07 (four months ago) link

Lefsetz should stick to rapping.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 January 2022 16:15 (four months ago) link

I need Lefsetz to get into NFTs. I need this to live

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 27 January 2022 17:28 (four months ago) link

I just got a Mellow Leffy NFT


west elm girls (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 January 2022 17:59 (four months ago) link


Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 January 2022 18:06 (four months ago) link

OK, years of giving him shit, so going to just say this one on Neil Young, Rogan, and disinformation is good, despite

So we're supposed to give Rogan a pass because there are worse offenders? How do we stop the insanity? Where's Susan Powter when we need her!

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Saturday, 29 January 2022 03:59 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

Awards shows are dead. Come up with something different. I could give and have given multiple ideas, but the Grammy organization doesn't listen

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 01:27 (two months ago) link


ass time permits (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 01:28 (two months ago) link

but the Grammy organization doesn't listen


Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:52 (two months ago) link

(is how I imagine the average Lefsetz reader responds)

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:53 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

this might less be lefsetz than the wsj article that inspired his latest screed, but this is just blatantly untrue.

2019's most streamed act, Lil Nas X's "Old Town Road," garnered in excess of one billion streams.

"Roddy Ricch's "The Box" was the biggest streaming track of 2020, with 920 million streams.

As for last year's biggest smash, Dua Lipa's "Levitating," it was streamed a grand total of 627 million times.

the original song has 516 million streams on spotify, sure, but the dababy-featuring remix (the one that spent all that time on the charts) has 1.3 billion streams on spotify alone

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 19:36 (three weeks ago) link

facts don't care bout yr feelins, lef

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 19:47 (three weeks ago) link

(also thank you to those dedicated folks who actually read his ramblings and post highlights here. you have a patience for bullshit that is truly admirable.)

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 19:49 (three weeks ago) link

this is the wsj paragraph he got the info from...

Lil Nas X’s “Old Town Road” became the most streamed song of 2019 by raking in more than one billion on-demand audio streams—a milestone no other song has managed to achieve, according to Luminate Data, formerly Nielsen Music. The top single in 2020, Roddy Ricch’s “The Box,” garnered 920 million on-demand audio streams; Dua Lipa’s “Levitating” hit 627 million in 2021.

...which suggests luminate/nielsen is to blame for that whopper. though it isn't 100 percent clear, since the luminate attribution is in the first sentence and the whopper is in the second sentence. for whatever that's worth.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 20:24 (three weeks ago) link

levitating came out in 2020 originally, so maybe they're just counting 2021 streams?

it would've made more sense to pick a song originally released in 2021, idk

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 20:27 (three weeks ago) link

Lil Nas X has two 2021 songs that broke a billion streams, but maybe Lef never heard them

Came here to share Lefse's intro:

There's an article by Anne Steele in today's "Wall Street Journal" about the lack of new tracks in the hit parade.

No, you can't read it for free, you get what you pay for, and there are two tiers of people in music, insiders and outsiders, and they've got two completely different viewpoints based on information.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 22:56 (three weeks ago) link

does any of that make any sense to ya'll?

because what in the fuck is he on about? have mercy.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 23:00 (three weeks ago) link


The first thing I do when I wake up every morning is take a pee. And this makes no sense to me. I mean I’ve already gotten up to take a leak multiple times during the night, it’s the scourge of the enlarged prostate, you’ll be familiar with it if you live long enough. And the funny thing is sometimes I’ve only peed forty five minutes before. You know, when you wake up but it’s still too early to get up and you ultimately lie in bed until the appointed time? How can I still have pee less than an hour later? I never wake up dry, I’m flummoxed.

After that I find some clothes. Although I’m cool with walking around the house naked, but that’s not Felice’s style. And I always debate what I’m going to wear, is it going to last the whole day long? I mean we had a cold streak here in L.A. last week, I broke out the heavy sweatpants and the long-sleeve t-shirts, but if it warms up during the day I might change to a short-sleeve t, and am I going to wear the same clothes later? And then I remember there’s a washer and dryer in the house, that I can wear as many clothes as I want and never freak out that the closet is bare, I can just fire up the machines. Yes, that’s my idea of living, of making it, when you have your own washer and dryer.

And then I get my phone. I do not keep it by my bed. Then I’d never get to sleep, I get e-mail all through the night. And you know you can’t resist that chime. And then there are the people who complain if you e-mail or text them after eleven, sometimes nine or ten, it’s a rule, you get old and you must go to bed earlier. Why would you want to wake up when it’s dark? Don’t these people know you can silence the ringer/chime? But oldsters are not tech-savvy. Now I’ll get e-mail from those who are. So this rule doesn’t apply to you, nothing is completely black and white, get over it.

And the first thing I do when I pick up my phone is look at the messages on the lock screen. I scroll through them, see if anything’s mega-important. And if there is, I open that message immediately, although for some reason I understand messages better on my computer than my phone, maybe because it’s all on one screen, I don’t have to scroll, end result being I sometimes get all heated up when the truth is I shouldn’t be, but I don’t know this until I fire up my computer and then…if there are no important messages, I start going to my sites.

There are too many of them. But usually I start with the “New York Times,” to see if the world blew up. And then it’s the “Washington Post.” And then I go to the “Los Angeles Times” and the “Wall Street Journal” and then I start scrolling my Twitter feed, which is in order of posting, I don’t believe in the algorithm, there’s no algorithm that replicates the needs and wants of a person.

Did I tell you I do all this on the pot?

Yes, that’s my secret space. And sometimes I don’t even have to go number two but I sit down anyway.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 23:19 (three weeks ago) link

The first thing I do when I wake up every morning is take a pee.

see this is exactly what i mean: i refuse to read past even the first sentence.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:42 (three weeks ago) link

Woke up
Got out of bed
Dragged myself off to the head
Found my way inside and had pee
And thinking that I knew I had to blog

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 01:04 (three weeks ago) link

In Conversation: Bob Lefsetz & Adrian Chiles - get your tickets now...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 01:09 (three weeks ago) link

lmao i was going to posit the exact same pairing when i read that

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 02:17 (three weeks ago) link

Did I tell you I do all this on the pot?


difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 05:01 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Do you know any genius musicians? Well, I do.

Lefsetz from his piece on the Brian Wilson doc that's on PBS now in the US

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 June 2022 03:03 (one week ago) link

I know quite a few and unlike whoever Lefsetz claims to know, I actually think of them as friends.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2022 03:07 (one week ago) link

Do you know any genius newsletter writers?

Well modesty forbids.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2022 14:22 (one week ago) link

Pretty funny sometimes-trolling interview with Lef on How Long Gone.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Sunday, 19 June 2022 02:19 (six days ago) link

Rather than becoming a musician, you're better off becoming a comedian. You can buy your beats, create a hit and be back in your bedroom within a year. It's a lot harder to make it in comedy, you have to pay your dues, hone your craft, but once you break through you can tell jokes FOREVER!

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:30 (two days ago) link

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