who is Bob Lefsetz?

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I find myself all of a sudden talking with "industry people" -- not my chosen path. Quite a few tell me to sign up for the "Bob Lefsetz Letter." So I do. It's an email list, where this person writes screeds that seem to be about 1) hating music festivals 2) the tropical paradise he's visiting 3) using CAPTIAL LETTERS in the middle of otherwise PASSIVE STATEMENTS

The people that recommended this list are a bit older, ex-radio guys or digital music industry guys. I google for Mr. Lefsetz but can only find "Industry Legend" as a bio. I like a little context with my rants-- why am I reading these emails? Who is this guy? Is it a Dvorak-style amalgam of ex-ATN writers taking the piss? Is it Ned Raggett?

neustile (neustile), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

As to the last question, no. Never heard of this Bob guy before, to my knowledge.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hmm! I have read some issues of the "Lefsetz Letter" - when it still was a printed-on-paper-and-everything thing-y, waaay back in the early 90s :)
Well it was, well, well fun to read then, I recall. I've no idea what he writes about, and how, these days.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

For a taste, the latest mail just came in:

But I've got to warn you. There are SEA CUCUMBERS!

Oh, you wear reef shoes. But littered on the bottom of the ocean are these...well, CUCUMBERS! But they're alive. And squishy. And they urinate. And it's almost so gross you don't want to go in. You CERTAINLY don't want to step on one.


neustile (neustile), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Not that they're his only audience, but older music industry professionals who don't have a strong grasp of the Internet seem to believe Lefsetz is the one peer with a finger on its pulse. I see some of his stuff via other email lists and tend to find him wrong.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

extremely old industry legend fart who used to like music when it was, ya know, BETTER. hates young people. probably hates old people too. undoubtedly hates HIMSELF. so consistently and hilariously WRONG that sometimes he's actually RIGHT.

"Dvorak-style amalgam of ex-ATN writers taking the piss" is the FUNNIEST PHRASE I HAVE READ ALL DAY though i don't know why.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Lefsetz's blog is at http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/

He also turns up on the Rhino podcast with hystronic tirades about The State Of Things and endless flashbacks to his life in the 70s when things were So Much Better. In short, he's one of the Ghost World record collectors only with an income.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Actually, I heard he was Luther Campbell.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

You know what brings you back, again and again, to Bob Lefsetz? It's the PASSION. Oh, you can try to stay away. You can subscribe to a million other blogs. You can tell yourself that music's changed, or that you've changed, or that you don't understand anymore. But you know what? It's not that you've got older - it's that your generation has lost touch! They've SOLD OUT. And it's the KIDS on the INTERNET with thei iPods and their Blackberries who are reminding you why you got into this WHOLE CRAZY FUCKING BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. It's the MUSIC! Oh, you can tell yourself it isn't. BUT IT IS. And if you don't listen, you and every other exec LEECHING off the hindquarters of a MEMORY is going to BITE THE FUCKING DUST!

moley, Sunday, 24 June 2007 10:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

I unsubscribed offa the Lef'Letter again awhile ago.

t**t, Sunday, 24 June 2007 13:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Seriously though his blog is my fave industry read and has been for a while now.

moley, Monday, 25 June 2007 04:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

omg somebody's gotta imagebomb this dude and his ridiculous opinions

Another thread on him. Also, Chuck mentioned and quoted a recent Lefsetz country music and Sirius radio thing on the Rolling Country thread.

curmudgeon, Monday, 25 June 2007 04:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

His most recent column begins 'I was at the psychiatrist today...'. Magnificent. We are Lefsetz FANATICS at our house. Oh, you can laugh. But that's because you're HISTORY.

moley, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

How about that T.I. diatribe...Is he right about touring rock bands having more sustained longevity than rappers or pop acts?

But I'll take T.I. over Rory Gallagher and many of the washed-up blooz-rockers and classic-rock dudes he loves.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 11:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is he right about touring rock bands having more sustained longevity than rappers or pop acts?...YES

...he must have a lot of time on his hands and he reminds me of mixerman

pollywog, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 12:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Who's mixerman? I think Lefsetz is a retired music biz attorney.

One of his pet themes is that only individuals whom he says audiences perceive as 'real' will have lasting careers. He says this does not include American Idol performers and most rappers and pop acts.

Nelly Furtado Thursday 6/7/07 The WaMu Theater at Madison Square Garden, New York, NY Gross: $316,400 4,992/4,992 (100% Ticket prices: $65.00/$45.00 That was her best gig. In Boston, she did 3,644 out of 6,500 (56.1%). In Sayreville, NJ, she did 1,165 out of 2,050 (56.8%). In Detroit, she did 1,761 out of 2,585 (68.1%). In Grand Prairie, TX, she did 2,375 out of 2,503 (94.9%). In other words, she did SHITTY! And these weren't big halls to begin with, positively small, THEATRES! Her album has sold 1,873,719 copies, it's still number 50 on the chart A YEAR LATER! In other words, record sales don't mean shit. Work with Timbaland all you want. Have a hit on Top Forty radio that fewer people are listening to every day. Most people are not paying attention. They don't think you're REAL! Real acts don't conspire with a multitude of people, the usual suspects, to create their of the moment music. No one's even going to REMEMBER her tracks half a decade from now. No one's even going to PLAY them! (Have you heard Eminem recently?) It's not about music being stolen, that's not the big story in the music business today. It's about the bifurcation in its soul. Touring used to reflect record sales. No longer is this the case. And the real acts, the lasting acts, can all do good live business. The public got the memo, the press has not. As for the major labels? If they want a taste of every piece of the pie they've got to be trustworthy, have the act's best interests at heart. Ain't that a laugh.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 02:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

so bob thinks the PUBLIC wants REAL, but it's hard to notice that said public has responded to THE REAL BOB himself by leaving ZERO COMMENTS so far on his latest blog post. ZERO COMMENTS on the post before that. ZERO COMMENTS on his LAST FOUR POSTS, in fact. the one before that elicited ONE COMMENT. so maybe everyone's talking about him but NO ONE CARES. most people are not paying attention. in other words, capital-letter posts about THE REAL don't mean shit. on the other hand, matthew fluxblog, champion of the pop, the artificial, the unreal, got 14 COMMENTS on his most recent posts. and 20 COMMENTS on the one before that. and 12 comments for his thoughts on KELLY CLARKSON. take that, bob!

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 05:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

So who's READING these blogs? The Arizona girl you met at UCLA you secretly wanted to fuck? NO! That aging A&R rep with the combover whose ass you wanted to kick cos he thought he was DOWN with the kids? NO-ONE who CARES about MUSIC reads BLOGS! They're too busy LIVING! And what do they want as their soundtrack to life? Music about LOVE - love gained, love lost, love refrigerated briefly prior to baking. LOVE is what keeps us coming back to music. NOT blogs. NOT UCLA postgrad programs. NOT even Arizona girls. And especially not Matthew fucking PERPETUA.

moley, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Who's mixerman?


Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

With just a few changes to the word lists, Lefsetz could pass for a SubGenius spewbot.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

ctrl-f HITS not found

hstencil, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 08:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bob always quotes 2 types of e-mail responses he gets (as many folks receive his stuff via e-mail rather than looking at his site)--from retired or current folks in the biz, or from ordinary folks who tell him how much they love 'real' music and then proceed to enthuse about the most bland middlebrow rock. The tone in both types of responses are often pretty amusing.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

But I'll take T.I. over Rory Gallagher

Any sane person would. (Which says it all.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:51 (ten years ago) Permalink


P'zone, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 22:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

I never heard of this guy until yesterday, but his old timer shtick is kind of entertaining, I read it hearing the voice of Bob "The Kid Stays In The Picture" Evans, and then think of the Martin Landau character from Entourage.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Subscribed a couple of weeks ago after someone mentioned him on the Radiohead thread, I tried, but I just don't get it, unsubscribed again.

Random thoughts that go nowhere, boasting about scoring a tour jacket from a 70's Clapton tour, comments from people who apparently do get what he means, irrelevant grumpy old man stuff, nothing I want to read about several times a day.

Am I missing something or is that it?

StanM, Thursday, 25 October 2007 08:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

His rants against the music biz, while largely predictable at this point, are often entertaining reading. Same goes for his stories of his life and his nostalgia.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 October 2007 13:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Article on Lefsetz in the Washington Post

moley, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

The fact that he is "one of the music industry's most influential analysts" speaks volumes. If you pretend you're reading an Onion editorial his pieces are entertaining though.

Mark Rich@rdson, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

When I worked at Rhino, I'd hear stories about Bob's refusals to edit his histrionic rants. Consequently, most 'casts were 90 percent wall-bouncing froth over Spirit's Dr. Sardonicus and tear-soaked Aspen weekends in '75 when MUSIC and LOVE were REAL and YOUNG, 10 percent contributions from actual Rhino employees.

Terrible Cold, Monday, 31 March 2008 16:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

He's like Lsetz, the Dean of Music Analysis.

StanM, Monday, 31 March 2008 16:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh not that guy again. There was also this interesting take on Feist.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 31 March 2008 17:51 (nine years ago) Permalink


James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

he reminds me of ben gazzara as jackie treehorn: "we used to have a little thing called production values... FEELINGS..."

gff, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

That and the Onion editorial comment both made me roffle.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 31 March 2008 21:03 (nine years ago) Permalink


Elvis Telecom, Monday, 31 March 2008 22:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

I kinda like reading his rants as SubGenius devival art but the guy can't be bothered to put the full text of his posts in his RSS feed so screw it.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 31 March 2008 22:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

LOL at his anti-Ticketmaster rant. Welcome to 1994 Bob!

MC, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 12:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

oh man is he ever happy about the new Tom Petty

J0hn D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

Mudcrutch vs. Tin Machine

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm officially starting the trend of calling them The Crutch.

dudes don't harsh The Crutch

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

dude, The Crutch killed it last nite at the cow palace

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Pure seventies. Pure magic.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

dude the crutch don't know any other way to rock.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

Pure seventies. Pure magic.

this was totally my favorite line

J0hn D., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Kind of sums it all up, doesn't it?

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

White Room

by Bob Lefsetz

The sixties were different. They were light, and dark, and nothing in between. Today we live in the gray. In the onslaught of media, nothing sticks out, nothing is in relief, we're all hiding in our bunkers, trying to figure it all out. But, in the sixties, we ventured out, we wanted to experience IT ALL!

In the sixties there was context. It wasn't like today, where without a major hype campaign nobody knows the story. We only had three TV networks. "Rolling Stone" didn't come on the scene until the end of the decade. There were limited media outlets, and we paid attention. The big breakthrough was FM underground radio, and you were lucky if you had an outlet in your community, where you could hear Cream.

Cream was something you heard about from your friends. You went over to somebody's house and they played you "Sunshine Of Your Love". Pete Townshend eventually sang about one note, pure and easy, playing so free, but really it was one RIFF that people lined up behind. And that riff, the one that got it all started, was the one from "Sunshine Of Your Love".

Listen to "Sunshine Of Your Love" today, you'll be STUNNED how little is on the record. God, it sounds like there were NO overdubs, just a power trio laying it down. Still, it wasn't just the notes Clapton was playing, it was the SOUND of those notes. There was a RICHNESS in this hard rock, a SWEETNESS! This wasn't music for boys only, this was music for EVERYBODY with genitals. It had such a weird effect on you, hearing this sound, you felt it in different parts of your body, your brain, your lower abdomen and your groin. Right after the set-up, after the richness, there's this bit of distortion in the guitar, you feel like you're in it for the long haul, to climax, four minutes hence.

Hearing "Sunshine Of Your Love" you had to buy "Disraeli Gears". And that's when you discovered it, the essence, opening side two.

Today the label picks the track, and what's left of radio takes instruction, it's all a CAMPAIGN, which you're AWARE OF! But listening to FM back then was like listening to XM today. Your relationship is with the DEEJAY! Not his voice, not his inane rap like on Sirius, but his CHOICES! That's why we love people, because of who they ARE! And when you heard "Tales Of Brave Ulysses" on the radio your life was made, the same way when Mike Marrone plays some obscure cut that only I thought I knew it makes my day.

One can argue quite strongly the first Cream album is the best. The sound isn't as good as "Disraeli Gears", but overall the songs are BETTER!

But after "Disraeli Gears", the songs got worse. Except for the unexpected "Badge", NOTHING was the caliber of what came before. Still, there was a huge hit on "Wheels Of Fire", a simple song, but one with a monster riff so exquisite that we were touched once again. It was just the SOUND of Clapton's guitar, it sounded like he was WEEPING! But then Ginger hit the drum, and Jack sang richly. Yes, as great as Clapton was, Jack's vocals were a key element of the band.

The dude who made available the MP3s of the Royal Albert Hall show left three out, the last three numbers of the concert. He hopped to, posted them on the site, and I just downloaded them, and heard "White Room".

I don't understand flying around the world to see a band. That's not what rock and roll is about. Rock and roll is about scraping up every dollar you've got, eating the equivalent of dog food just so you can AFFORD to go to the gig. The gig isn't an afterthought, ONE thing you can acquire, experience, but the ONLY thing!

While we were experiencing flower power in the U.S., the Brits were experiencing rain. The music from across the pond was different from ours. It wasn't sunny, it was dark. Made in the U.K., it was America's dark underbelly. It coexisted with Monkees hits. It was necessary, for balance.

Flying across the pond forty years later has NO darkness. Unless you saved up every last dollar you had and slept on the street in order to go.

And, going was SO much different then. You went ALL THE TIME! Because the tickets were CHEAP! Under five bucks. The concert experience wasn't about preferred parking and alcohol, it was about the MUSIC!

And that music can be heard in Cream's rendition of "White Room" on May 5th.

Eric gets that unique guitar sound. But really, it's Ginger's drums. You can hear the FEROCITY!

And then, on top of it all, in comes Jack.

Oh, he's singing along, all those words you remember. And then you hear it...

"I'll wait in this place where the sun never shines Wait in this place where the shadows run from themselves"

I'm waiting for this place to return. Where business trumps art. Where creativity is revered over music. Where the messiah returns.

Religious zealots think the messiah is going to come from heaven. Down to save us.

But I don't believe that. I don't believe in a higher power. I believe in people. Their ability to triumph, do the right thing, against incredible odds.

Here, just before the show is over, almost two hours into it, having deliv ered upon expectations, Cream FINALLY throws off the limitations and just RIPS! THIS is music-making. When you're no longer going by the rehearsal, when you're just WINGING IT! When you stop concentrating on being together, do your own thing and it all FALLS INTO PLACE!

And a little over halfway through the number, Eric finally takes center stage, he finally WAILS! Not in the way he has for the past thirty years, but the way he did with John Mayall, as a SIDEMAN! In the tradition of great bluesmen, he's taking his LICKS! He's just part of the club.

And all these years later, it's still a championship team.

Mr. Big STFU (ojo), Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

How many of his letters start out with something about the sixties or the classic era being "different"?

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Lefzetz meets Pitchfork, world implodes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Ask Pete Townshend if he still hopes he dies before he gets old. He IS old, and he LIKES IT!

Eazy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 03:05 (six months ago) Permalink

Although I always found stretchy material to be somewhat see-through, undies visible, but I didn't think too much about it.

Eazy, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 00:59 (five months ago) Permalink

I’m a jeans and polo shirt kind of guy. That was a big breakthrough in high school, the ability to wear jeans to class. But back then we called them “dungarees.”


shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 07:16 (five months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...


in which bob shaves ("i'm bad at it"), is driven to the cnn studio in hollywood, is ushered past cnn security ("if you're on the list, you're golden. that's what life's all about, being on the list"), gets his makeup done, goes on some cnn show to talk about eminem (because i guess keith olbermann wasn't available?), meets one of harvey weinstein's victims ("a very attractive woman"), watches her get even more attractive when the makeup artist applies lipliner and lipstick, realizes that life's an illusion, and concludes that donald j. trump is "no match" for marshall mathers.

also, there's video of his cnn appearance.


fact checking cuz, Sunday, 15 October 2017 06:28 (five months ago) Permalink

279 emails just waiting for Bob to reply to

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 15 October 2017 06:55 (five months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I'm eating fruitcake.

I know, I know, it's supposed to be inedible, you're supposed to pass it on to some out of the loop friend as a gift, there are fruitcakes from the 1800s still circulating, but this one is pretty damn good, it came from Whole Foods with a gingerbread base and nothing involved speaks to my holiday memories since I'm Jewish, but I'm all up for new traditions, as long as you don't put a Christmas tree up in the house, who knows what's next, a cross?

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

A Very Lefsetz Christmas

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 16:55 (two months ago) Permalink

the day has arrived when I finally agree with lefsetz

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Thursday, 28 December 2017 15:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Curiosity got the better of me after reading this thread, so I signed up and it's quite the ride. This line from the latest one about Petty is just too much to not post:

And it was all in our heads. This was long before MTV. Production at shows was limited. You bought the vinyl and spun it alone in your room and transcended, you had to go to the show not to shoot selfies, not to say you were there, BUT TO PRAY AT THE CHURCH OF YOUR SOUL!

whitehallunity, Saturday, 30 December 2017 14:57 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

physically cringed at the new one about the Quincy Jones interview

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 10 February 2018 11:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Joanie....gotta ask yourself the tuff questions as an artist

Can you lay it on the line? Can you tell us how you feel? Can you reach down deep and puke it all up without giving a fuck?

That’s what we’re looking for.

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 February 2018 17:31 (one month ago) Permalink

THIS is what we're looking for


maura, Sunday, 11 February 2018 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

that is a lot to process.

I cannot imagine what other would have G. Gordon Liddy and the Residents in their video

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 February 2018 03:03 (one month ago) Permalink

upper miss's lefsetz imitation makes me irl lol every damn time

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 11 February 2018 03:21 (one month ago) Permalink

I wonder does he know what "eviscerate" actually means?

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Sunday, 11 February 2018 10:08 (one month ago) Permalink

xpost u are too kind all honor and praise to the most high true & living L.e.f.

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 February 2018 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah. articulates the feeling i had when i read it in the first place like um, lef buddy, have you tried reading your own letter?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 15 February 2018 02:24 (one month ago) Permalink


curmudgeon, Friday, 16 February 2018 06:01 (one month ago) Permalink

unsurprisingly the top comment is something about how taylor swift can't sing live, as if that exonerates lefsetz for sexism

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Wait, are we back to "hating Taylor Swift is anti-feminist" because I thought we moved onto "liking talentless white becky Taylor Swift is neo-nazism"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 16 February 2018 19:07 (one month ago) Permalink

nah we're all the way back to

Lefsetz is the same writer who saw Beyoncé perform at the 2013 Super Bowl and remarked that he wasn’t sure what to do afterwards, “join a gym or masturbate.” He’s the same critic who assured readers that if they wanted to “get laid” they should go to a One Direction show. “An endless sea of barely pubescent girls, screaming their heads off,” he wrote. He dedicated an entire letter to Emily Ratajkowski’s cameo in the “Blurred Lines” video because “it was the only thing that had me watching, who was the girl with the perfect breasts?”

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 16 February 2018 19:43 (one month ago) Permalink

I get so weirded out when I see Lefsetz getting taken seriously in the wider world

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 February 2018 19:54 (one month ago) Permalink

Lefsetz is the same writer who saw Beyoncé perform at the 2013 Super Bowl and remarked that he wasn’t sure what to do afterwards, “join a gym or masturbate.

lol what a silly old man where does he get these ideas


sleepingbag, Friday, 16 February 2018 20:00 (one month ago) Permalink

i enjoy having a laugh at this guy on this thread, but yeah, it is crazy that he is actually considered an authority on ... anything.

tylerw, Friday, 16 February 2018 20:00 (one month ago) Permalink

I try to keep Lefsetz in mind when other experts are given suddenly platforms for comment in the wider world.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 16 February 2018 20:03 (one month ago) Permalink

e.g. generic tech executives with supposed insights into where AI will be in 15 years.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 16 February 2018 20:05 (one month ago) Permalink

white masculinity is a hell of a drug

maura, Saturday, 17 February 2018 06:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Twitter has so many "social selling/SEO/futurist" guru bullshit artists, probably one a day follows me because I work in marketing

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:42 (one month ago) Permalink

Shooting the shit, that's my favorite thing to do in life, after skiing, ahead of reading, maybe behind. That's what bonds people to you, makes you friends, SHOOTING THE SHIT!

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

has ween ever made an album called "SHOOTING THE SHIT!," and if not, why not?

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

holy shit Lefsetz reminds me SO MUCH of gene ween

flappy bird, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Man I hate myself for not seeing that, but yes, totally :D

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink


she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:11 (five days ago) Permalink

I am kinda like I can't even bring myself to report this to you maybe it's not news idk I hadn't heard

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:11 (five days ago) Permalink

but find in page reveals no mention of it

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:11 (five days ago) Permalink

I can't

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:11 (five days ago) Permalink

ok here I go

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:11 (five days ago) Permalink


she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:12 (five days ago) Permalink


she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:17 (five days ago) Permalink

he sounds like wallace shawn

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:19 (five days ago) Permalink

Diane Warren (EXPLICIT)

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:19 (five days ago) Permalink

I know I lol'd at that. also in the Nancy Wilson one the second she mentions a reel-to-reel he goes OH, YEAH like you can hear him working up a TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED. THE MUSIC MEANT SO MUCH routine behind his eyes

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 21:10 (five days ago) Permalink

he sounds like wallace shawn

kind of looks like him too

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 21:11 (five days ago) Permalink

I just listened to most of the Diane Warren ep. For the most part I didn't think he came off as much worse than Maron? He was very pushy in trying to direct the conversation and there was a lot of over-talking, but I didn't get the impression that Diane was flustered by any of it.

There was that one line where he says something about there being jealous, bitter people all over America who could move to L.A. and fuck someone who looks like a cast member on Friends but they don't. And I was like "there he is."

how's life, Friday, 16 March 2018 09:50 (two days ago) Permalink

Segueing in from a discussion about how trying to help people out sometimes backfires. Bob got mobbed by some guy's followers on Myspace 10 years ago when he refused to promote this dude's act or something.

Diane: You know, for all the people who have contempt for people who have done well with their lives, go do well with your own life. Why would you have contempt for someone that's worked really hard?
Bob: Because it's too hard to be successful. The analogy I always use...
Diane: So do the work!
Bob: But it's too hard for them. I remember, you know, they had the TV show friends. There's three guys, three girls.
Diane: That's the second time today someone's brought up that TV show.
Bob: What was the context of the first time?
Diane: Someone with an [unintelligible] I was in earlier, and I've never even seen the show. Is that weird?
Bob: Show started off good, you know? In England the shows end. Here, they run until no one's watching any more. BUT, anybody sitting at home gay, straight or otherwise: 6 people on the show, you could find someone you're interested in. And if you're not living in Los Angeles, where the show was filmed, you can sit there and say "hey, you know, if I moved to Los Angeles I could fuck one of those people." But the difference is: they don't move.

how's life, Friday, 16 March 2018 11:02 (two days ago) Permalink

woah lefsetz podcast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 March 2018 16:09 (two days ago) Permalink

i am removing bookmark from this thread

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 March 2018 04:55 (yesterday) Permalink

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