man, I had no idea that "Hard Out Here" actually did well in UK/Australia/etc, or that she'd released another single.
― da croupier, Sunday, 23 February 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo9Fja5x04o
recommended if you like ersatz mia, air balloons
― da croupier, Sunday, 23 February 2014 16:05 (ten years ago) link
Well I like it..
Btw, "Nan yr a window shopper" she has form
― Mark G, Sunday, 23 February 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
"Hard Out Here" was actually a bit of a flop sales-wise. 9-31-50 is not a typical Lily Allen sort of chart run in the UK (by comparison, "The Fear" spent four weeks at #1 and several more in the top 10). There was nothing special about its success in Australia - she's moderately popular and I would say a hyped new single with lots of controversy should have gone higher than #14.
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Monday, 24 February 2014 03:36 (ten years ago) link
I think they were expecting it to be a big hit for her but not to worry, I'm sure it'll be referred to as buzz single from now on.
Air Balloon is okay but the fact this will probably be a huge hit and the last Cher Lloyd single got to so little interest in the UK it was cancelled, just doesn't seem right.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 24 February 2014 05:24 (ten years ago) link
Edwardo, in the US the song didn't even chart so I'm standing by my statesider's surprise at it reaching the Top 10 in European countries (however briefly) and going platinum in Australia.
― da croupier, Monday, 24 February 2014 06:40 (ten years ago) link
There was that other single, that did quite well..
― Mark G, Monday, 24 February 2014 07:45 (ten years ago) link
she's such an embarrassment and it's tremendous to see how easy she's making it for people to point & laugh. pretty obvious by now her heart's not in this comeback - it's not like there were (m)any ideas there to start with but the laziness is pitiful and transparent right now. i assume her many media mates will valiantly try to sustain this campaign but it's just making them all look shit as well.
― lex pretend, Monday, 24 February 2014 08:18 (ten years ago) link
it's funny, ed o wrote this about "hard out here" on the singles jukebox:
The video is just a visual version of Allen’s general MO, refashioning something “bad” or crass with an ironic wink, getting the benefit of its ideas without having to come up with her own, all the while acting as if she’s above her sources’ dubiousness or uncoolness and she’s just having a laugh because she’s better than that.
and she seems totally intent on proving him more and more correct
― lex pretend, Monday, 24 February 2014 08:19 (ten years ago) link
more likely she thought it was lolz and would garner publicity
I'd be surprised if it was any deeper than that tbh
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 24 February 2014 09:53 (ten years ago) link
Actually her PR has seemed a lot more interested in the other clients on the company roster recently (not as much sharing-about on social media as other acts, eg Kylie Minogue).
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Monday, 24 February 2014 10:08 (ten years ago) link
da croupier: spending one week in the top 10 in the UK is not even remotely like being a top 10 hit in the US. One week at #9, then out, that is a big disappointment for an artist of her standing, it's the sort of chart run you might expect from single 3 or 4. Also going platinum in Australia is nothing, you still have to sell 70k like you did 20 years ago, except digital sales are huge (singles used to be about AUD 7-8 except some priced at 4.99, now a digital song sale is one-third of that) and the population is 40% higher, so it's not that impressive (The really really big hits, believe it or not, go like 6-8 times platinum. "Party Rock Anthem" and "Somebody I Used To Know" both have sold over 750,000 copies, for instance, "The Fear" and "Not Fair" shifted about 120k five years ago which makes them about twice as big adjusting for sales inflation.
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Monday, 24 February 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link
haha ok i apologize for saying i didn't realize the song did "well" overseas when obv that was far too reductive a statement, slander retracted
― da croupier, Monday, 24 February 2014 15:17 (ten years ago) link
it was just weird seeing that performance called "doing well" when the most notable thing was how gigantic a flop it was
― lex pretend, Monday, 24 February 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link
i'm honestly surprised the song didn't crack the Hot 100 just on viral trollgaze whatnot
― da croupier, Monday, 24 February 2014 15:23 (ten years ago) link
I accept your apology on behalf of the millions of non-Americans who didn't buy the single either.
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Monday, 24 February 2014 15:24 (ten years ago) link
Thing is, "Air Baloon" sounds like it will be number one for a couple of weeks, thanks probably due to avoiding all that parody stuff.
― Mark G, Monday, 24 February 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link
"Hard Out Here" didn't do well in the charts, but as Mark G hinted at it's a bit unrepresentative to compare it to "The Fear" since "The Fear" wasn't released just after another much more successful Lily Allen single. I'm sadly sure that "Hard Out Here" would have done better in the absence of "Somewhere Only We Know" (which had 2 weeks at #1 and I imagine will now have to be a bonus track on the album).
― Iain Mew (if), Monday, 24 February 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiDP8zwIQAAzUZJ.jpg
LOL @ this idiot
― lex pretend, Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Can you imagine talking to her at a party
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link
unfortunately that's all too easy
― lex pretend, Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link
http://smartladieslovestuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SNL-Cecily-2.gif
― da croupier, Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link
haha croup otm
― balls, Thursday, 6 March 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
have to admit allen does make me think maybe ppl aren't being too hard on lorde
― balls, Thursday, 6 March 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link
nobody tell her about redpillers, it will probably turn into a song
― katherine, Thursday, 6 March 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
looks like "air balloon" might sell worse than "hard out here" lol
― dyl, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link
"lead balloon"
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:37 (ten years ago) link
― balls, Friday, March 7, 2014 3:38 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
from everything i've seen and read about these two women, lorde appears to me to be much more likely to listen to criticism of her work and actively learn from or reject that criticism - the way she has spoken in interviews about "royals" and the conflict she feels about some of the sentiments it supposedly conveys, is evidence of this. whereas allen scans to me as more of an amanda palmer or macklemore type figure, someone in the game for primarily self-aggrandisement, someone who chooses to engage with social issues but whose perspective is too littered with potholes and misfires to be workable.
i am also willing to give lorde a free pass b/c she is still a kid. if she's still writing songs about alienation that inadvertently scan to american audiences as racist at 28 (allen's age), then we should go harder on her.
― pearly-dewdrops' bops (monotony), Friday, 7 March 2014 01:40 (ten years ago) link
new track contains actual couplet "we're all watching gaga / L-O-L and haha"
such a sparkling wit she possesses
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link
but seriously she is the actual worst and why, still, do i see people riding for her, surely it is time for even her fans to be turning away in sheer fucking embarrassment
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:18 (ten years ago) link
I will stan for some older Lily Allen, but this go-round confirms she should've stayed retired.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
Still like some of that last album (Especially The Fear and Chinese) but this comeback really has not been great at all.
This interview is full of annoying moments
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lily-allen-talks-motherhood-online-haters-and-her-new-lp-sheezus-20140410
Her pretending Hard Out Here wasn't a single is the strangest part.
You made it clear that you weren't happy with the label over their choice of singles from your album.It wasn't their fault. I would love "Hard Out Here" to have been a single, but you can't have a song that has the word "bitch" in it 72 times on the radio. It's just not gonna happen.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link
I'm sure if it had been a hit she'd be referring to it as a single. With this way of thinking that means the Keane cover has been the only actual single from this album so far (even though she's already had four singles from it)
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 01:06 (ten years ago) link
A lot of the stuff I've heard from this new album has had a real "write a poem in Grade 4 English" class vibe to it, where end rhymes always trump a melodious meter or the use of natural expressions.
The newest single with the video of her in the cab with body doubles is probably the best thing I've heard from the project but when that's a bloodless, flimsy imitation of "We Can't Stop" you have to wonder what the point of the comeback is supposed to be.
― all is fair in love and womp (monotony), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 04:40 (ten years ago) link
xpost I don't think it's actually on the album..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 08:02 (ten years ago) link
But people that are probably less fortunate look at me and think, "Well, she's got everything. She's had everything. It's been handed to her on a silver plate." It's just not true. I've been through some really, really awful things that other people haven't been through.
:o
When I heard that I tried to think of another pop sing in history that talks about periods. I couldn't think of one.[Laughs] It's groundbreaking! I'm proud of that. It's fucking awesome. I think that "period" is going to be my "surfboard" with Beyoncé. People will wear sweatshirts to my concerts that are just going to say "period."
the ignorance :o
Tell me about the song "URL Badman." What inspired that?I wrote that after I put out the video for "Hard Out Here" and everyone said I was racist. I was really alarmed by that reaction. I stand by that video and I know what my intention was and I'm sorry that people interpreted it in a different way. A lot of that negative stuff came from females and the feminist blogger scene. What really pissed me off was the misogynistic, hipster, male bloggers that went after me in a completely different way. And I just thought, "Fuck you, I'm going to write a song about you."
lmao the white tears
I do feel like Twitter is melting my brain.What worries me more is Instagram. We're in the age of the Selfie. It's just encouraging vanity. It's not even representative of anything except how you want people to perceive you. Think of when people are partying and having fun. They're like, "Hey, look at us!" You're obviously not having that much fun because otherwise you wouldn't be stopping to document it. It's stupid.
omg the utterly clichéd technophobia that i've seen a million times before and should definitely not be indulged in by someone who happily is on instagram taking selfies
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 08:14 (ten years ago) link
LOL, she's sorry we feel that way. I'm sorry her ex-boyfriends in the media won't countenance other women criticising her, but there you go...
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 09:11 (ten years ago) link
Glad we have lily allen to take a stand against the vanity. Now who will do something about the intemperance
― PhetamineGrrrn (wins), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 09:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kPQiAJv4fo
― piscesx, Thursday, 24 April 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link
that was already posted: GTFO rolling worst music of 2014
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 April 2014 11:57 (ten years ago) link
I'm sorry her ex-boyfriends in the media won't countenance other women criticising her
Who they?
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 24 April 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
that video looks cool and i don't hate the beat or her voice. lyrics are so dumb tho, like really really lazy
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 24 April 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
like a linoleum floor
― kinder, Thursday, 24 April 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nme.com/news/lily-allen/78740
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
surely it is mere coincidence that URL Badman has not made the R1 playlist
/url badman
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
lol
― dyl, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
"Maybe the songs aren’t good enough this time, who knows?"
I know. They aren't.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 July 2014 00:16 (nine years ago) link
Hang on, R1 gave her a whole hour last night to play whatever she wanted. So is she including herself in this critique?
― Jeff W, Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
lol i just noticed what the first song she played in that hour was
"started from the bottom"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link