allmusic.com redesigned again and it's being a turd

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Just like the last redesign, the new site is not working properly. When I search for an artist, and then try searching again the search box is all fubar'd -- meaning that the input box is missing. Stick to what works, cokfarmers!

Just wanted to vent that out. Mod can delete this now.

van igloo (van smack), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

it looks like shit
it's currently buggy
the homepage loads and blinks a picture every 5 seconds
the stupid fake tabs are still there

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Same thing happened to me at first.

Your browser is probably still caching the old header image.
Try hitting CTRL+F5.

That should do it.

Steely Dan, Friday, 14 April 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Bless you, Steely Dan!

van igloo (van smack), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

It's like they go out of their way to make me pine for the days of the Trouser Press encyclopedias... They design like they want people to switch back to print.

js (honestengine), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

WTF?! AGAIN? If it ain't not broke, why not not fix it. Etc.

This is happening at the worst possible time, as I am in the middle of a years-delayed iTunes overhaul, hunting down release dates and album titles for thousands of stray tracks... Ugh.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

doesn't seem all that bad to me.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

That it's decided to randomly start switching what it's searching for (Album, Song, Artist) without changing the toggle menu from "Name" is annoying. I'm not looking for the album called Don Cherry...

js (honestengine), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

They have a blog about American Idol.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Now the main discography page is kinda messed up. Huge separations between the albums. They should have made a separtate beta site to work out the bugs and keep the old one until the new one works.

van igloo (van smack), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

But bugs and all, this version is still better than the last.

dan. (dan.), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Its still slow, it still takes too long to get anywhere, and hey've made the default text size way too big.

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Dig it.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

the redesign looks nice! it's not that radical, but i think it's better.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Switch it back to how it was in 2000.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Why can't AMG look more like IMDB? Now that would be great.

musically (musically), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

damn them and their free source of information!

splates (splates), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

They had a chance to redo the IA of this site, and they stuck with those fucking tabs? Clunky. They need Jakob Nielsen to go in there and kick some ass!

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 14 April 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.usability.gr.jp/alertbox/nielsen2.jpg

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 14 April 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Nobody ever tells me anything. (I say this partially because before the last redesign I got a note talking about it and asking me to test it out on my end -- where it worked just fine, I should note. This is perhaps why I wasn't asked again. ;-) )

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

The best thing about AMG's various web interfaces is that they were so bad they inspired the greasemonkey extension for Firefox.

The thing is, greasemonkey can fix the form, but not the function. I'd still love to see AMG implement a useful "advanced search" someday.

drench, Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, but you'll remember to file your taxes with those huge damn ads taking up half the screen.

patita (patita), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link

before the last redesign I got a note talking about it and asking me to test it out on my end

THE TRUTH COMES OUT

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I said that back then, ya punk!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:51 (eighteen years ago) link

hahahahah "electronica"

1997 WILL HAUNT US FOREVERMORE~!

kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 15 April 2006 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

whoa, the AllGame Guide still exists.

kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 15 April 2006 07:49 (eighteen years ago) link

The font is too big. What, am I expected to scroll down or something.

Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Sunday, 16 April 2006 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

In Firefox, all I get is a royal carribean ad haha. they sure got their money's worth.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 16 April 2006 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link

or I could wipe my cookies...STILL THEY SHOULD HAVE WARNED ME

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 16 April 2006 04:06 (eighteen years ago) link

What's up with the hostile Electronica genre intro?

"Typical for the many styles gathered under the umbrella was a focus on danceable grooves, very loose song structure (if any), and, in many producers, a relentless desire to find a new sound no matter how tepid the results."

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 16 April 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"The page cannot be displayed"

whats wrong?!

Zeno, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:03 (sixteen years ago) link

hit F5 repeatedly

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:57 (sixteen years ago) link

...forever you mean

Zeno, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe one day...

Zeno, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

What's a good alternative to Allmusic.com? Shit's not loading at all the past couple of days.

wmlynch, Sunday, 2 March 2008 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Uh nevermind, just found that other thread.

wmlynch, Sunday, 2 March 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link

love this site. but when it comes to loading issues, it's a turd. what's weird is that isn't even that crazy when it comes to graphics, pop ups etc.

oscar, Sunday, 2 March 2008 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

What's a good alternative to Allmusic.com?

en.wikipedia.org

Seriously.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 2 March 2008 03:18 (sixteen years ago) link

discogs.com for informational purposes

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 2 March 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHH I can't get in at all.

The Reverend, Sunday, 2 March 2008 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i was searching for soft machine two days ago and it was coming up with random hip-hop albums instead (lil wayne's 'da drought' and nas's 'illmatic' to be precise).

the unpredictability of this site is just immense!!

sam500, Sunday, 2 March 2008 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link

eh, I just use Wikipedia for band histories these days. Usually a lot better.

If I need album/track-listings, then Amazon.com all the way

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 2 March 2008 04:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Wikipedia Nazis keep deleting band profiles though, so it's not all that useful for most things I want to look up.

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Wiki is good for track listings too. And Rateyourmusic is becoming more and more reliable as well.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Wikipedia Nazis keep deleting band profiles though

Any particular reason?

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

If they haven't heard of them, they don't deserve a page, or something.

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Last week many album pages were missing their reviews. Today some albums pages are only listing the first seven tracks, e.g. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gifpxql5ldae WTF AMG?

abanana, Monday, 30 November 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Note from Andy K here:

Allmusic Album Reviews Gone

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 November 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Today they broke all search shortcuts, and the search box can't be selected. Wheeee.

I'm not having any problems selecting the search box.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link

search box works for me, but why does AMG now look exactly like last.fm?

barman's bar mitz (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link

the new song search really really sucks though. before today, if you did a song search for "cuckoo", you could click on a specific song title (like "the cuckoo") and see a list of all the artists who performed it, and you could sort by artist and composer. it was useful if you wanted to track down cover versions. now you just get a long, disorganized list of artist and song titles with no way to separate songs titled "the cuckoo" from "a cuckoo" from "your new cuckoo". I really hope they fix that. it's a huge blow to the functionality of the site.

barman's bar mitz (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link

Harden broke his beard.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:36 (eleven years ago) link

Or rather, Manu broke it for him.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:36 (eleven years ago) link

wrong thread! Sorry.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:39 (eleven years ago) link

"allmusic.com redesigned again and it's being a turd"

You know this has happened so many times over the years. There is plenty of good information on there, but I rarely use it any more.

I swear it was a better and easier site to use like 10 years ago.

earlnash, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link

recent redesign is atrocious. some of the most counter-intuitive, uninformative page layouts i've ever seen.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 07:40 (eleven years ago) link

Earl OTM. It seems to lose functionality or become more cumbersome with each "improvement". I still find it very useful despite these setbacks.

Eh, whaddya want for nothing, rrrrrrrrrrrubber biscuit?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

y'know, i haven't used AMG regularly in years because of unpleasant redesigns, but just now out of curiosity i went and spent the last few minutes browsing around, looking stuff up, and it's not bad actually. not perfect, but better than i remember it being.

some dude, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, this seems better than the last version which i hated so much.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

i like the new design

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

feh. red, white and black color scheme is ugly, and there doesn't seem to have been any attention given to highlighting the most important features on each page. if you jump to discography from the main artist's page, you see a list of albums. only if you were to very carefully look around the page would you notice the unobtrusive, grey-on white tabs up top for "compilations" and "singles & EPs". that's just bad design. and unregistered's complaint about the new song search otm. what, i'm supposed to scroll through all 25,000 songs with the word "tomorrow" in the title individually to find the one i want?

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

the search was the exact same way before

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

ou see a list of albums. only if you were to very carefully look around the page would you notice the unobtrusive, grey-on white tabs up top for "compilations" and "singles & EPs".

^^if you can't see the clearly labeled "compilations" tab with is literally 1 MILLIMETER FROM THE ALBUMS TAB RIGHT BESIDE IT, then i'm surprised you can even read or type words into ilx

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

as long as those insufferable fullscreen popup ads are gone rovi's alright w/ me

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

also that was exactly the same before but it's better now because you don't have to leave the bio tab to view the main albums tab.

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

(xpost)

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

oh this looks nice

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

also remarkably little of substance has changed on the main page, just a different graphical skin and fonts

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

SO LONG AS YOU CAN FIND ME oh wait.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

the search was the exact same way before

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:43 PM (4 minutes ago)

no it wasn't. like I was trying to say out upthread, it used to be that when you searched for something like "girl" + "yesterday", a list of song titles would come up, and when you clicked on "the girl from yesterday", for instance, you'd be able to see all the artists who recorded that song. now you just get an undifferentiated list of songs with "girl" and "yesterday" in the title. in the title, and you can't sort it by songwriter or title. it's completely different.

one improvement I noticed, though, is that they merged the Works and Discography listings for classical artists. before there'd be two separate entries for John Cage — one with his compositions and one with his releases — but now you can access them from the same page.

also the buttons to stream the songs are bigger, which is good.

overall they seemed to have optimized the site for clickthroughs to spotify and itunes and rdio, but it's hardly more useful as a research tool (not that it was ever perfect).

barman's bar mitz (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

"in the title. in the title" - bleh, typos

barman's bar mitz (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

like I was trying to say out upthread, it used to be that when you searched for something like "girl" + "yesterday", a list of song titles would come up, and when you clicked on "the girl from yesterday", for instance, you'd be able to see all the artists who recorded that song.

^i guess i never searched in this manner, i always just type in the song title, and that works the same as it did before.

overall they seemed to have optimized the site for clickthroughs to spotify and itunes and rdio, but it's hardly more useful as a research tool (not that it was ever perfect).

as they should, the site has to make money and i don't find it obnoxious at all

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

the search was the exact same way before

not at all. unregistered otm.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

^^if you can't see the clearly labeled "compilations" tab with is literally 1 MILLIMETER FROM THE ALBUMS TAB RIGHT BESIDE IT, then i'm surprised you can even read or type words into ilx

of course i can see it. i see those tabs because i know to look for them, being familiar with the site's basic design from years of use. i can't imagine that a not-particularly-internet-savvy first time user, however, would even think that these options might be available. there's nothing in the page design that draws attention to the fact that you're initially seeing only a portion of the discography. in fact, the elements that might draw attention instead seem to have been intentionally designed to evade immediate notice.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost but it doesn't work the same as it did before (contenderizer otm)! the sorting feature may not have been something that everyone cared about, but I don't see the need to get rid of a useful tool.

I don't think it's obnoxious that Rovi is trying to make money; just pointing it out.

barman's bar mitz (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

ok i know your trying to contenderize me with this shit but i'm not having it

how in THE HOLY HELL DO YOU HAVE TO BE "INTERNET SAVVY" TO SEE THOSE TABS?

http://i50.tinypic.com/2woepu8.jpg

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

there's nothing in the page design that draws attention to the fact that you're initially seeing only a portion of the discography.

compilations, singles & EPs, and dvds were separated from the main album in the exact same manner in the previous design

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

it used to be that when you searched for something like "girl" + "yesterday", a list of song titles would come up, and when you clicked on "the girl from yesterday", for instance, you'd be able to see all the artists who recorded that song.

to clarify, if in the past, you wanted to find a song called something like "spongy mountain" (or maybe it was "mountain of sponge" or something, i dunno), you'd type "spongy mountain" into the search, and it would cough up something like this:

Spongy Mountain - 177
My Spongy Mountain - 118
Spongy Mountains - 32
Mountaintop Sponge - 4
Spongiform M - 1
I Had a Sponge - 1
Mountain Spot - 1

you'd click on a phrase, and it would show you a list of all the performers of songs with that specific title. very handy for tracking down songs whose title you only half-remembered, also for researching variations on a phrase and/or titles involving specific words.

using the current version of the song search function, however, you'd get all 334 results, unsorted and unsortable, 20 at a time, so that you'd maybe have to go through 17 pages to find that one version of "mountaintop sponge" you were looking for.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

how in THE HOLY HELL DO YOU HAVE TO BE "INTERNET SAVVY" TO SEE THOSE TABS?

good page design should draw attention to what is useful, and minimize distractions. this design makes useful functions unobtrusive and draws attention to junk.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

incredible discussion itt

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

how in THE HOLY HELL DO YOU HAVE TO BE "INTERNET SAVVY" TO SEE THOSE TABS?

good page design should draw attention to what is useful, and minimize distractions. this design makes useful functions unobtrusive and draws attention to junk.

― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are crazy

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

probably ¯\(°_0)/¯

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

incredible discussion itt

well, it's a conversation about the design of this one particular website. not sure what you expect...

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

BOW DOWN BEFORE THE ONE YOU SERVE

http://media.blurt-online.com/cqtuEEeFKNUV_m.jpg

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

MY SPONGY MOUNTAIN

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

OK, I got the search box to work. I had javascript turned off sitewide because their old version was so terrible with it. It seems slightly better than the old version. I like that it shows which albums have reviews on the discography list.


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