Basic Channel Records ... Educate Me, Please.

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Yeah obv a little.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i have many rhythm and sound records and like them all. they are all at something like 130-140 bpm.

i think that you and i are listening to different r & s records.

also, vahid is pretty much always 'omg noobs.' which is at times refreshing and at times pure arrogance. (and in this case, after an investigation, Tussle are none too good. in fact, i'd venture to say Tussle kinda sucks.)

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good

bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"

really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation

really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks

merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

-- vahid (vfoz...) (webmail), March 26th, 2006 3:27 AM. (vahid)

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i really like that Scion record. otherwise, he's sort of right on.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The Scion mix CD is a better introduction to BC than the BC comp. It's become one of my all-time fave mixes.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i would agree there.

it's funny that vahid doesn't mention any maurizio, tho i guess that isn't strictly 'bc', just bc-associated.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Trak II underrated there

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

DUB is number one

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

huh, that's funny, i thought all rhythm and sound records were fast, i.e. chain reaction i.e. basic channel, etc. oh well!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

some of the remixes are. the originals are very much dubby reggae.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it was seriously zzzzzzzzzzzzz. for like $20, too.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i am less interested in which ones people think i underrated (i get the sense many people would give all nine records 10/10 scores) and more interested in which ones you think i overrated.

the tussle+dj spun/BC connection is that there are more interesting things going on w/ dub vs electronic music these days than basic channel. i just wanted to get that out there, but if i were to start a thread on west coast house = I GET NO HITS, so i troll these threads.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

if you want me to justify my list i will post capsule reviews later

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

give us a rundown of the BPMs too, dog

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

justify my love

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll second Tussle as quite nice, if not very Basic Channel-y, dub.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

the underground techno label that that separates the men from the boys

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― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess i didn't find the Tussle stuff very dubby at all? maybe i'm listening to the wrong stuff.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Go here and download "Elephant." Kinda drum-circle dub or something but it qualifies for me. I love this particular track.

http://sixeyes.blogspot.com/2006/11/sixeyes-friday-mix-whats-hot-at-hype.html

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i would like a capsule review vahid! i might even attempt my own.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like to read a lenghty critical appraisal of the basic channel series. are there any?

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ps vahid write a book

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

pps-but can you tone the 'omg noobs' type commentary down a bit, especially where it isn't needed?

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

though i would like capsule reviews too.

i think you overrated phylyps trak, but i need to listen to it a few more times before i get into specifics as to why.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'Elephants' is pretty awesome. thx for the tip.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'Elephants' is ~~pretty~~FUCKING awesome. thx for the tip.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

No problem. I agree, it's awesome. And I can't listen here at work but their myspace has a Dennis Young (of Liquid Liquid) remix of "Elephants" up. That should be quite nice. It's here: http://www.myspace.com/tusslers

Also, you can download two choice cuts they've released on Rong at their website here: http://www.tussle.org/music.html

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, so now i understand the Tussle love. weird that the tracks i slsk'ed don't impress me in the same way.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always considered them a bit undeservedly ignored.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

someone please please please help me find the german dub-techno 12" that i once listened to at a store in san diego ... i don't remember ANYTHING about it except it was either from berlin or detroit, it was full of scary pinging sonar sounds and hard acid, it sounded a LOT like phylyps "trak" except rougher and nastier and more aggro, and it had a picture of the bow of a submarine plowing straight at you on the cover.

95% sure it was NOT drexciya or UR

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link

was that at Elevator records? Mark was always trying to get me to buy that record but it was way to hard for me. I can clearly picture it in my mind...

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

not clear enough to remember the name, alas.

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:49 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wait...was it one of these records: http://www.discogs.com/label/Surface

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 07:30 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHA YES ... WE HAVE TOUCHED THE SAME VINYL (no brokeback)

MYSTERY SOLVED ... now we know why i always thought it was a chain reaction related project!!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

so anyway, yeah that shit was astoundingly rugged but i think not an entirely illogical progression from something like "enforcement" or "trak"

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

listen to the label here and be sure to check the paul mac eps!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 08:22 (seventeen years ago) link

does anyone here like PUB?

the one on orange vinyl is very very good

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 2 February 2007 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/release/25759

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 2 February 2007 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: Wow, I wish I had that Paul Mac ep! It's really good!

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

it's all about e2-e4 basic reshape. a shame it's only 6 minutes long.

― rio natsume (rio natsume), Saturday, 3 February 2007 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i've yet to explore chain reaction.
-- friday on the porch (l...), January 30th, 2007. (lfam) (link)

i have wrapped my life in chain reaction. the records keep destroying me. hallucinator "morpheus" and fluxion "prospect I/II."

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Sunday, 4 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

On the speed thing, this thread inspired me to give Octagon another listen, and I cued it up as an mp3 since I don't have a turntable at the moment - and I was shocked by how fast it is at +/-0! (Octaedre is even faster, IIRC) I don't think I've EVER heard it that fast before, because I've never listened to it unmixed before, and it tends to get mixed with stuff that's more normal-ish kinds of tempos, at least in my experience. The standard tempo of a track is a great insight into what the context its creators imagine for it, and it's kind of blowing my mind they imagine it sitting next to the kind of brutal (and usually minimal, if punishing) techno that sits at that speed.

― Elsa Svitborg (tracerhand), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Moritz's mix of Tony Allen is pretty much the only thing that's keeping me alive today

― a (rslvd), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, the speed is what makes octaedre for me. it's so fast but so skeletal... just a few elements in a huge space. i think the slight delay on the snare's reverb is what keeps the rhythm tight enough to work at the speed. it's like the track is just keeping time until that comes in.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

it's also noteworthy that the speed is there, but the BOOM BOOM is not. the beat is buried in this really nice way. once in a while i can hardly remember it is there.

also, i know i keep on saying this, but CHAIN FUCKING REACTION.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

omg n00bz

i FINALLY bought "pole 3" this past weekend, after all these years ...

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Weird, I was thinking about these records today. I always used to play them at -16% at 33rpm. I have the first three of them in a record box in my parents basement back home. #4 was kinda sketchy, he wore the formula a little thin by then. They are keeping my Gas double packs company. I haven't heard any of this stuff in years.

I had the day off and decided to play though some of the old M records and BC stuff. I need to pick up more stuff like this. I think it is getting to be time to revisit shuffled 909 hi hats and chord stabs.

― Display Name, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link

pole fucking sux vahid looooo-l

― am0n, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

;-)

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry that was very snrub of me

― am0n, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

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