What are some songs that bands regret writing/recording?

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Supposedly Warner Brothers forced R.E.M. into "Shiny Happy People." Lore goes that Warner also forced Throwing Muses into writing/recording "Dizzy". That wacky Al Jourgensen claims the label forced him into "Everyday Is Halloween." These artists particularly hate these songs.

What are other songs that artists regret, but fans seem to love (not solely for cheese factor either, if that's any help)?

k kuperman (kuperman), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 14:14 (twenty years ago)

"Helter Skelter"?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Reprise sent Summerteeth back to Wilco, telling them to write a single. They wrote 'Can't Stand It' ....which was never properly released or promoted as a single.

gooblar (gooblar), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Beastie Boys did a total 180 w/r/t the fratboy image of their Def Jam days...

Rob Zombie has successfully suppressed the re-release of the first two White Zombie records, when they were a Lower East Side scumrock band...

And there's the entirely common phenomenon of artists recording a song so popular that even they come to hate it. "I'm never playing THAT song again..."

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I remember seeing Damon Albarn playing with his hero Ray Davies on Jools Holland's show. Near the end Davies launches into the chorus of Parklife and Albarn's former look of pride just collapses... he's reluctant to join in. 'It's your song man,' urges Davies, but the duet is less than half-hearted

dr x o'skeleton, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I remembered an interview with Damon afterwards and apparently he'd been "well, thanks but I wish you hadn't bothered.."

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:01 (twenty years ago)

John Lennon famously dismissed Run For Your Life and It's Only Love as rubbish.

Bruce Springsteen has said in interviews there are parts of The River he shouldn't have released, though he didn't go into specifics.

Larry Mullen Jr. was not a fan of U2's The Passenger project.

Jarvis Cocker dismisses a lot of the early Pulp records.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

I saw in an interview where Billy Joel referred to "My Life" (which became the Bosom Buddies theme song) as a child that didn't make him too proud. Too bad the editorial function of his mind didn't kick in sooner.

p.j. (Henry), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Damon Albarn currently regrets more or less all the best stuff he has written. Pity.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Guided By Voices "Hold On Hope"

The song came to my nigga Pollard in a dream. Dude was like, "I don't care too much for it but R.Ocasek and his supermodel wife think it's da bomb." They record it for Do The Collapse. TVT Records play Pollard remixes for radio that make Pollard wanna done puke. GBV fans mercilessly make fun of the song calling it the "prom theme." Pollard eventually bans it from the live show and even trys to verbally disown it.

sgseg, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Cheap Trick famously recorded "The Flame" under protest...

hank s (hank s), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

even trys to verbally disown it.

and fails?

"The song, Hold On Hope? I disomgh it. I diswole it. I diswlogh it. Ah damna."

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:06 (twenty years ago)

are radiohead over their hatred of Creep yet ? i seem to recall this being mentioned in an article a few years back .

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

They were all "This is one of the greatest rock anthems of all time" after the first non-hit release of it.

I think they like it again, now.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

It seems that any Blur recording is despised by either Coxon or James these days, depending on whether it was one of their "Oi oi saveloy" moments, or "Hey, have you heard this Pavement lot?" latter ones.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:38 (twenty years ago)

cant believe no mention of Bowies classic Laughing Gnome ..

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Grace Slick and "We Built This City"

Miriam Makeba and "Pata Pata," I've heard

Cliff Holmes and "Playground in My Mind"

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

i think the Stones (except Richards) don't like Exile on msin so much, though it is considered as their best work.

There were times when Sonic Youth hated Goo, and didnt play it live, but those days are over.They sad it was badly produced,compared to Dirty, but of course, now everyone knows that Dirty is more polished but less good.

awful truth, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Prince apparently regretted a large part of his catalog for a while there.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:08 (twenty years ago)

~Vic Godard had a period of hating his punk era stuff

dr x o'skeleton, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Al Green divested himself of basically his whole back catalog, when he bacame a minister...I think he plays some of the older stuff again, now...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)

don't get Kevin Shields started on MBV's goth period pre-"Isn't Anything"...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (sorta)

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:02 (twenty years ago)

suede and stay together

powpowpow, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Adam Ant 'Dirk wears white sox'. It must be killing him to put out that box set of his old demos... I can't wait.

Niall, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

"Adam Ant 'Dirk wears white sox'" - though it's he's best work - those artist don't understand shit about their music...

cocksock, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:15 (twenty years ago)

simple minds and "don't you forget about me" to thread.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

After having the Turtles label asked them to be less experimental and to put out "another 'Happy Together'", the band wrote "Eleanor" as a jokey, satirical pop song. The label loved it, and it was a hit. I'm not sure if the band regretted it, seeing as it is one of the few original compositions they hit with.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Stephen Malkmus has said that many of the unreleased songs from the Brighten The Corners sessions are better than what ended up on the record.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Bob Dylan has always said he regrets recording "Ballad In Plain D" which goes into excruciating detail concerning his breakup with a girlfriend. I kind of regret he recorded it too. It's awful!

Tyler W (tylerw), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Beastie Boys did a total 180 w/r/t the fratboy image of their Def Jam days...

Yeah, this is the first thing I thought of. "Paul Revere" especially.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Beatles : Lennon also dismissed "and your bird can sing" (but Lennon/beatles might be special because at some point I think he dismissed almost all they did !).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Lore goes that Warner also forced Throwing Muses into writing/recording "Dizzy".

NO! really? i didn't know that.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Merle and me both cringe when we hear "sam hill" ------ (his 2nd single after the ineffably beautiful "sing a sad song")

reacher, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

xpost on Beasties: this was true circa "Ill Communication," when "Rhymin and Stealin" was often the only "Licensed to Ill" track peppered in their sets. But recent sets have returned to the frat fold. "Paul Revere" is back in there! Check the upcoming Beasties documentary for reference.

ng-unit, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Rod Stewart once said that his "Do You Think I'm Sexy?" was one of the worst songs of the 1980s.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

more importantly, paul revere is like 67686128396517234896419X better than anything on ill communication.

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

At SXSW, the Beastie Boys played "Paul Revere," "Brass Monkey" and "No Sleep Til Brooklyn."

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

"Anyone's Daughter"-Deep Purple, though I like it.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I remember reading the Chemical Brother's said they regret "Hey Boy Hey Girl"...as they rightfully should.

Tynan DeLong (TynanTynan!), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

as I recall, XTC - "Sgt Rock"

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)

if you can believe him, Lee Mavers has always said that The La's album sucked...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Damn fool. NEVER TRUST THE ARTISTS.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:59 (twenty years ago)

paul simon said he regrets writing 59th Street Bridge Song. interview with bob costas years ago. weed will do that to ya.

biz, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Phil Spector supposedly forced the Ramones to cover "Baby I Love You". At gunpoint. The Ramones were said to be none too happy about that.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Jeff Beck isn't very proud of "Hi Ho Silver Lining" indeed.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Steve Albini hated the Big Black tune "Strange Things" so much that he left it off of the CD reissue of Atomizer.

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

IIRC Steve Marriott recorded "Lazy Sunday" as a joke to be unreleased.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

"Rob Zombie has successfully suppressed the re-release of the first two White Zombie records, when they were a Lower East Side scumrock band..."

I was always curious about this period of White Zombie. Never heard it! Mainly I was just hoping that it was better than their other stuff, cuz I don't really like em, but my brother does, so I wanted to find out how they REALLY sounded.....the song "Rat Mouth" always seems to pop up in people's converstations.

I think Steve Albini disliked the whole "Lungs" EP.
J. Mascis wasn't too fond of "Bug".
Plus I'd say that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" definitely counts.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Pixies - "Here Comes Your Man"

They used to refuse to play it. Don't know if they still do.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

I think they played it when I saw them last year, but I don't know, I was drunk....I just remember it sticking in my head, so I think they did.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Rod Stewart once said that his "Do You Think I'm Sexy?" was one of the worst songs of the 1980s

I believe that he has disowned it to such an extent that not only does he refuse to sing it any more, but has donated it's royalties to charity.

Ben Dot (1977), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

er, Jorge Ben has donated the royalties to charity...(he sued Rod Stewart for plagiarism, and won)...also, the riff of "Do You Think I'm Sexy" owes more than a little bit to a Bobby Womack song (name slips me at the moment)...annnd, it's actually a 1970's song...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if neil young still likes "trans", though i remember reading about how he wrote it for his son with cerebral palsy as a way to try to communicate with him or something.

i remember hearing how courtney from the dandies used to be in a hair metal band.

Emily B (Emily B), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Weird for Rod to say that since "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" was released in late 1978.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Reprise sent Summerteeth back to Wilco, telling them to write a single. They wrote 'Can't Stand It' ....which was never properly released or promoted as a single.

that's a great song though, do they really hate it? anyway I still think ?Summerteeth is a more interesting and experimental record than YHF.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Gentle Giant's "The Power and the Glory" (the song, not the album)
Quoth Ray Shulman:
"WWA said, 'Now boys, you've got to be commercial, you've gotta make singles. Now you run away and write us a single.' So we did three atrocious numbers. This song's the worst--'You've got it lads!'--and we went into the studio and handed over the tapes when we came out. They put it out, we yelled at them, and they gave it back--took it off the market."

Øystein (Øystein), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

new order dismiss 'procession' as too personal, too caught up in the wake of curtis' death; maybe they feel that way about movement too, i don't know ,,,

ncj,, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

radiohead played creep when I saw them in 2004 so I don't think they're sick of that song anymore

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

paul simon said he regrets writing 59th Street Bridge Song. interview with bob costas years ago.

I remember Simon telling either Costas or Tom Snyder that the lyrics to "I am a Rock" embarrass him.

O-Keigh (O-Keigh), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Squeeze don't like most of their 1985 album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti".

musicjohn73 (musicjohn73), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

Squeeze don't like most of their 1985 album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti".

I can understand that, as it sounds like a Paul Young album. Dreadful title too.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 23:00 (twenty years ago)

Pixies - "Here Comes Your Man"
They used to refuse to play it. Don't know if they still do

They were on "Austin City Limits" in the very recent past and played it.

phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Jonathan Richman doesn't like the first Modern Lovers album. I guess he thinks it's too derivative and uptight, which he documents by mocking "She's Cracked" on the live version of "Down In Bermuda". I like it but that albums not in the top 5 for me cos I'm more of a Jonathan fan than a Velvets fan.

everything, Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

Ministry "With Sympathy" ...Al Jourgenson also blamed Arista for that faux-Brit accent.

Pantera was a spandex-'n-big hair glam band before getting tough and metal. Mention their early days to a bandmember for a free knuckle sandwich.

Mark Eitzel was rumored to hate the first American Music Club album so much that when fans presented it to him for autograph signing, he'd smash it right it front of 'm as they'd look on, horrified.

And yes, uncle Bob Pollard is very vocal about hating "Hold on Hope" and the skating-rink anthem it later became.

Duke Dubuque (Duke Dubuque), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't Blue Monday get on Barney's tits, as mentioned in the Retro set?

Viz (Viz), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:12 (twenty years ago)

"er, Jorge Ben has donated the royalties to charity...(he sued Rod Stewart for plagiarism, and won)...also, the riff of "Do You Think I'm Sexy" owes more than a little bit to a Bobby Womack song (name slips me at the moment)...annnd, it's actually a 1970's song..."

and i care because? rod stewart blows.

trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:41 (twenty years ago)

snopes says false.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)

how is one forced into writing a song? did they kidnap their family and tell them to write a crappy song like 'shiny happy people' or they all die?

keyth (keyth), Thursday, 23 March 2006 03:57 (twenty years ago)

Y Kant Tori Read

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 23 March 2006 06:45 (twenty years ago)

xpost exactly.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 March 2006 08:48 (twenty years ago)

Birthday Party "Release the Bats"

Nick and his merry men were highly indignant about being filed under Goth from the very moment the label was devised. Unfortunate then, that this early indie hit perfectly encapsulates so many key Goth themes. I've heard a BP live recording where Cave introduces it with something like "Here's the song you all love so much which we all hate so much".

One of their greatest moments, though.

Soukesian, Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:56 (twenty years ago)

Minor Threat, "Guilty of Being White".

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 23 March 2006 12:21 (twenty years ago)

I suppose 'force' might have been the wrong word to use ... three times, at that. 'Coerced' or 'pushed into the direction of' may be better. But from what I understand, the label rep says "Wow, that's great. But in order for us to put this album out, we need you to write a song that will get popular airplay. So start writing that next single!"

k kuperman (kuperman), Thursday, 23 March 2006 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Saint Etienne aren't very fond of "Join Our Club" (actually they hate it) or "You're In A Bad Way" (intended as a joke B-side, probably their highest-selling, if not highest-charting, single)

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 23 March 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)

"I've heard a BP live recording where Cave introduces it with something like "Here's the song you all love so much which we all hate so much".

heh...I saw Flaming Lips many years ago, and they introduced "She Don't Use Jelly" with the *exact* same line...

hank (hank s), Thursday, 23 March 2006 13:33 (twenty years ago)

sixteen years pass...

Hit singles which were later, if not immediately, disowned by the artists - at least key members if not the whole bands (but more likely the whole bands):

Small Faces - Sha-La-La-La-Lee
Squeeze - Bang Bang (though more recently they've apparently been sympathetic)
Duran Duran - My Own Way
Tears for Fears - The Way You Are
Depeche Mode - It's Called a Heart
Blur - Bang
The Lemonheads - Mrs. Robinson
Radiohead - Pop Is Dead
Radiohead - High and Dry
Pulp - Mis-shapes (supposedly)
Oasis - Sunday Morning Call
The Prodigy - Babys Got a Temper
McFly - Party Girl

The most maddening example, already mentioned, is (or was) Stay Together.

Damon also wrongly reflects on Think Tank as having "some bollocks". The only not great track is Crazy Beat, no. 1 hated song by Blur fans, so I assume he's on about that.

Also I have a suspicion the Chemical Brothers aren't that keen on It Began in Afrika.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 3 October 2022 21:38 (three years ago)

The Boo Radleys really came to resent Wake Up, Boo to the extent that they spent the rest of their career(reunion notwithstanding) trying to get away from it.

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Monday, 3 October 2022 22:31 (three years ago)

Kraftwerk have pretty much disowned their first three records. In their mythologised rewriting of their own history, Kraftwerk begins with Autobahn.

Personally I'd disown everything after Computer World. By that stage, Ralf and Florian were more into cycling than making new music.

The Ghost Club, Monday, 3 October 2022 23:58 (three years ago)

Squeeze's 'Bang Bang' is fucking terrible. Took an equally dodgy Todd Rundrgren cover to convince them to play it again

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:03 (three years ago)

there’s the whole thing with the beta band disowning their debut album as soon as it was released

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:05 (three years ago)

Stay Together is easily one of the best Suede songs. Always wondered why it is that one in particular that became so contentious

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:06 (three years ago)

I used to think the Clash regretted "Train in Vain," since it wasn't included in the album's track list, but I think that was due to its last-minute inclusion.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:07 (three years ago)

Been imagining if Graham Coxon got cancelled and everyone had to assume Think Tank was the only album worth listening to (apart from the best song)

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:08 (three years ago)

*inclusion on the album

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:09 (three years ago)

Frank Sinatra didn't write "My Way", obv, but he always hated the sentiment of the song.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:10 (three years ago)

I'm sure when Russell Rael sang "when do I get to sing My Way? when do I get to feel like Sinatra felt?" he meant "when will I sing a song I hate?"

The Beta Band s/t fiasco is a big shame because the album is really terrific. T

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:36 (three years ago)

I was watching the/a recent Suede doc, and Brett Anderson makes a point of saying he does not disown "Head Music," but then a few minutes later says he *does* disown "A New Morning."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 02:53 (three years ago)

Sinatra really hated “Strangers in the Night.” Poor guy hated two songs that he was expected to song every night.

Josefa, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 03:14 (three years ago)

*sing every night

Josefa, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 03:16 (three years ago)

Sounds like Suede felt "Stay Together" was weaker lyrically than musically. Still a bit surprised, I don't think it's lacking in any way

Vinnie, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 03:24 (three years ago)

Yeah tbh if there's a more disowned Suede single it's Positivity

Initially Brett Anderson liked the song and considered it one of his favourites on the album prior to its release. However, his views on the song would later change, saying: "When I first wrote it I thought it was a masterpiece but soon realized that many people were genuinely offended by it."[2] On the meaning of the song, Anderson said it's about "someone who's really close to me, who doesn't have much in life but manages to deal with it incredibly well."[3]

It's a cute and benevolent song, which I mean as a (ahem) positive. It sure epitomises the 'pop star gets clean, starts writing songs that make it obvious' cliche, but there isn't a more genteel and sweet example out there I don't think.

He shouldn't disown Head Music at all - except Elephant Man but that isn't his song anyway

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 05:22 (three years ago)


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