OPO: Raspberries

(re: mean a lot in 1987, the idea that abortion is okay even if the elders don't think so )

Yeah sorry forgot about that mambo. I think some people wanted even more of that.

Formulaic and corny are the point of a musical!

Sorry. Jennifer Grey and Patrick Swayze have genuine chemistry, and it was and remains fascinating that the liberal Jewish gamine seduces the Irish blockhead while an abortion happens around her.

And, to put a period on this discussion, for millions of us '80s kids we learned about "Be My Baby," "Stay," Otis Redding's great obscurity "Love Man," "Do You Love Me?" and Solomon Burke's "Cry to Me" thanks to how forward this film was about sex.

I mean, I'm younger and gayer than you guys, so this film codes differently.

And ask the millions of young women who made it a staple of their coming-of-age.

the liberal Jewish gamine seduces the Irish blockhead while an abortion happens around her

To be fair, this does indeed sound interesting. Was Swayze's character Catholic?

It doesn't come up. All he wants to do is dance. And make romance. That's part of this film's queerness too: dancing is his life like it isn't for the women, in part b/c he can love'em and leave'em.

Was Swayze's character Catholic?

Is the Pope an Irish blockhead?

Does a bear eat Raspberries in the woods?

Is that what’s bothering you, Bunkie?

who’s coming in here saying anything against my beloved Dirty Dancing…
ESPECIALLY not having seen the whole thing? cmon.

Dirty Dancing
a)rules
ii)is awesome
thirdly) is unimpeachable
and 4) perfect in every way

Besmirch the excellence of Ms Grey, Mr Swayze and Cynthia Rhodes aka the former Mrs Richard Marx AT YOUR PERIL

honestly it’s very good

DD rules in every possible respect

I mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtZFfEy_Eyk

pass the kleenex i’m bawling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxL84qrV_LU

ORBACH THE GOAT

“When I’m wrong, I say I’m wrong”

only Gene Hackman could've said the line besides Orbach.

On my Mt Rushmore of best movie dads
along with Gregory Peck, Steve Martin & Tom Hanks

This thread has become the equivalent of all the "Dirty Dancing Singer Dies" obit leads.

However, on that tip TIL Carmen co-wrote "Almost Paradise" from Footloose.

see!

he wrote everything! so many good songs

I had forgotten about his solo song “Never Gonna Fall in Love Again,” which I kind of used to have a little bit of a sweet spot for.

yeah i like that one too!

Also forgot how much I like “Don’t Want To Say Goodbye.”

“I Don’t Know What I Want” does indeed sound a lot like “Won’t Get Fooled Again” but it also sounds a bit like “No More Mr. Nice Guy.”

... which was inspired by "Substitute", and then later covered by Roger Daltrey on an Alice Cooper tribute album!

😳

was listening to the raspberries s/t this morning love this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZJlYh8i7ZY

he could really channel mccartney like few others outside of emitt rhodes

That's a Wally Bryson song though.

ahh I didn't know that, good on Wally

And ask the millions of young women who made it a staple of their coming-of-age.

― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 12, 2024 7:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

If you weren't a tween girl or gay when Dirty Dancing came out you don't get to shit all over it. It was life changing.

But on Eric C - I loved him so much when I was a kid. My mom bought me his greatest hits when I wouldn't stop talking about how "Make me Lose Control" was my favorite song lol. My mind was also blown when I figured out he was the singer from the Raspberries which didn't happen until I was in college listening to a power pop comp. Hell of a song writer.

I am starting to recall that back in the day when I was coming up you wouldn’t really hear them on the radio that much because they didn’t quite fit the formats for reasons discussed upthread.

I was pretty happy though when I called into my college radio station and they played “I Wanna Be With You” albeit after explaining “there was this group called The Raspberries.”

I know where I first heard or became aware of "Go All the Way". It's the song playing in Fast Times when J Jason Leigh and Damone do it in the dugout.

To me this stuff is the male equivalent of The Shirelles’s “Tonight’s the Night.”

Much closer to that than to Spinal Tap’s “Tonight I’m Gonna Rock You Tonight.”

It's the song playing in Fast Times when J Jason Leigh and Damone do it in the dugout.

isn't that "somebody's baby" by Jackson Browne?

Is this one of this somebody didn’t buy the rights for the home video version things?

How bizarre.

I remember being particularly scandalized by that whilst watching John Sayles’s “Baby, It’s You.”

One of those…

It's the song playing in Fast Times when J Jason Leigh and Damone do it in the dugout.
isn't that "somebody's baby" by Jackson Browne?

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, March 13, 2024 2:24 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

that's my memory but i remember from the you must remember this podcast that there are like 4 distinct edits of Fast Times that are floating around, and that scenes I remember well weren't in the original movie

so the imdb page covers all of this in typically frustrating crowd-sources fashion. there were lots of tussles over music rights for home video, cable, etc., and eventually all the original music was restored, but:

1999 DVD version is completely restored and contains all of the music and scenes from the theatrical version. The entire soundtrack has been restored, including Timothy B. Schmidt's "So Much In Love", Tom Petty's "All Amercan Girl," and "Goodbye, Goodbye" which had been omitted in several other versions.

there is no such song as Tom Petty's "All American Girl," although the imdb entry refers to this repeatedly.

One time I saw Wim Wenders at MoMA MY

there is no such song as Tom Petty's "All American Girl,"

That was his obscure series of YA novels.

Lol

(xp)
…at MoMA introducing a then-newly restored The Goalie’s Anxiety at the Penalty Kick talking about saving some money by swapping out some songs on the soundtrack.

High point was then-still-tolerable Peter Handke getting more and more annoyed at moderator Ian Buruma, at one point responding to some question he didn’t like with “and Ozu drank too much sake!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJVE-VjC_ME

More importantly, that wasn’t Damone with her in the dugout.

I come to this thread for the Raspberry strudel, it’s great.

Didn’t remember that copy of Taking Liberties in the background.