Jethro Tull: Classic or Dud?

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Prog's only singles band?

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

...well I LOVE 'Living In The Past' - that flute sound really sums up an era for me. Have you heard Cud's version - it's sung against Mission Impossible - works perfectly.

Jez, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

CARMODY TO THREAD!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Living In The Past is great, although I have to admit I am still ashamed that I like it. I fear all else.

emil.y, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Living in the Past is a great, great collection of songs, better than their actual albums I think. Honest oddities like "Inside," bitter little Ian Andersonisms a la "Christmas Song," and intriguing things like "Witch's Promise" and nonsense like "Singing All Day" .. Don't be ashamed with your good taste, e.mily.

Songs from the Wood and Aqualung aren't bad albums, either. But you can skip "A Passion Play," their 60-minute-opus w/fairy-tale- intermission, as well as all of their 80's material. 'Living in the Past' =/= synthesizers.

Dare, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

ouch. emil.y that is.

Dare, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Insert Heavy Metal/ Metallica Joke here. OK - it's done - forget it.

Tull - one of those bands that everyone secretly likes.... for about 25 minutes at a time, every few years.

Teacher, Locomotive Breath - classics.

Dave225, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Any time I hear Jethro Tull, I think of Stellan Skarsgård getting [SPOILER!!!] beaned in the head.

Andy K, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

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a-33, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

At the same time or on different occasions?

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

'Summerday Sands' Is a super song, and so is "Thick as a Brick": I put that on when I'm painting houses.

A Nairn, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yayyyyaqualung...

Sweet Dream video from "Slipstream": CLASSIC!

Joe, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Have to admit that Tull is a guilty pleasure every once in awhile.

Pump Wellington, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

There's quite a dilemma; yes, Jethro Tull have some brilliant tunes; yes, I have... uh... fond childhood memories connected with them (you may all now feel thoroughly disgusted); but really, that BEARD is a CRIME against HUMANITY and it must be STOPPED.

Elisa, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Has ILM consensus finally been achieved?

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

There's lots by Jethro Tull that I find boring at best, and Ian Anderson can get pretty affected, but their best stuff is really good. "Wond'ring Aloud" and "Mother Goose" are beautiful songs.

Phil, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The sound of Ian Anderson taking a deep breath in the middle of a flute solo a la Locomotive Breath = CLASSIC,even if only for its hilarity.

Damian, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i kind of assume i hate em but to be honest i only know quite a small amount: the JT fan i was at achool with was far and away the weirdest fellow i knew

mark s, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm listening to "Skating Away on the Thin Ice of a New Day" right now, and I must say, it sounds pretty damn good. I say classic.

o. nate, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus, it's like punk NEVER HAPPENED!

Andrew L, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it anything like emo?

Prude, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
"Tull - one of those bands that everyone secretly likes.... for about 25 minutes at a time, every few years."

I'd say more like every TEN years...just like the Doors!

Matt Riedl (veal), Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
I quite like that Aqualung, even though it is uttery absurd. There's some good stuff on there though, you know, the one that goes: dum dum de de de de dum dum; blah du, de blah du, de blah du, de blah du; dum dum de de dum day dum, wah wah waaaa wa wa wa wah wah waaah... etc

Roger Fascist, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
He added: “The moment when the new Palmer identity was revealed to me was when the then, still David, phoned me to say ‘Ian, there’s something I need to get off my increasingly ample chest’.”

Between that and Jackie Enx of Rhino Bucket, it shows that Jayne County was merely the start of something good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 05:06 (sixteen years ago) link

you mean it wasn't ian that became a she?

you know, my dad and my philly relatives pronounce "ann" and "ian" almost identically.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 24 January 2004 05:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I pretty much gave my all for "Stand Up", "Benefit", "Aqualung" and - somewhat - for "Thick As A Brick", but ended up gving away their later releases. You have to keep in mind, though, the context in which this stuff was first heard {in amongst the likes of ...America, Neil Diamond and The Carpenters} wuz just a little bit awesome. Just another old guy talking here... [ me ]
I still revisit.

jim wentworth (wench), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Stand Up and Benefit are both great! Aqualung is pretty solid too. That's about as far as I go.

I love "A New Day Yesterday" and "To Cry You a Song".

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Songs from the Woods is an incredible album.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

About as dud as you can get without being The Grateful Dead.

(though "Living In The Past" is a nice tune)

LondonLee (LondonLee), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Revive!

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:35 (fifteen years ago) link

These are my initial and rambling thoughts:

I love pretty much everything up to "War Child", plus "Songs from the Wood" and "Heavy Horses"*. I don't think "Stormwatch" is bad. The lyrics on most of "Minstrel in the Gallery" (except for the title song) start to make me cringe. "Broadsword and the Beast" has an unpleasant, bloated-puffy synthesizer sound as well as pretty uninteresting songs. "Crest of a Knave" is hard to imagine as the same band - I can't stand Martin Barre's guitar sound at that time, and the lyrics are brutal. "Rock Island" and "Catfish Rising", as probably everyone will tell you, are just embarassing. I haven't heard anything since, though a friend has told me that "J-Tull.com" (sp?) is not too bad.

*I do think that "Thick as a Brick" is a bit structurally clunky, but when I consider that it was kind of a big piss-take of a concept album, it makes sense that it's that way - it's a pretty funny idea for an album. "A Passion Play" is my favourite: the saxophone and synthesizer parts sound great and the melodies are really deft. I don't know why people got mad about "The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles". "War Child" continues with similar arrangements and impressive playing (Barriemore Barlow is a superb drummer), though I'd have preferred "Bungle in the Jungle" as a non-LP single.

Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 06:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to them back in the day. Like everyone. "Living in the Past" is good but his vocal kind of makes me laugh--he's trying so hard to "swing" and "go Latin" somehow (the flute playing too) and he's just so fucking English and doesn't make it, no way. But the early stuff like on "Benefit" is sort of all right, some nice riffs. "Aqualung" was huge when it came out and a required pretentioso purchase for everyone too dumb to spend their money on JBs albums or something. Because we'd been sold this Jethro Tull shit. There's some movie with Owen? Luke? Wilson and Steve Buscemi about these schlubs who get recruited for a mission to blow up an asteroid and during the interviews Luke? Owen? is asked what really bothers him. "That people think Jethro Tull is just a dude in the band..."


But it's not offensive like ELP (whose best moments were Greg Lake's Paul McCartney/Neil Young knockoff songs w/ cheap synth solos just to remind you who's IN CHARGE HERE). And the later dumb pop hits he had, around the mid-'70s, are quite enjoyable. Normally I don't bring up Lester Bangs but his piece "Jethro Tull in Vietnam" does sum it all up nicely.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Lester Bangs wasn't infallible; Tull is pretty classic. There should be some kind of rule (the Jethro Tull rule?) where if you make at least three great albums you shouldn't have shit albums count against you. Notwithstanding all their crap, the three great Tull albums are

1) Stand Up. One of the great, great psychedelic albums, stuffed with killer riffs and enough otherworldly moods to simulate or enhance being baked. If this album were a one-off by an obscure British folk band (a la Mellow Candle) it would fetch hundreds of $$$$ in collector's circles.
2) Aqualung. There isn't a bad song on it. The flute solo in "My God" is some scary shit. In my experience people who badmouth this are trying to prove another point, like they're cool, or even good music can get overplayed, or something.
3) Thick as a Brick. Some parts drag, but there's no other album like it (I guess besides Passion Play), and most of it's engaging, not an easy thing to pull off over the course of 40+ minutes.

Songs from the Wood, War Child, Benefit, and Minstrel in the Gallery aren't bad, either, and there are timeless singles like "Living in the Past" to get off on.

There's also a ton of shitty albums--Too Old to Rock & Roll. . ., A, Stormwatch, etc. but who cares, really.

martin hilliard, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, but that Aqualung guy--he smoked too much or what? It's that level of non-specific '70s social commentary crap that gets me about the great band of seed-drillers, you know. If it had been just about another band and the dude plays a flute, then fine. But that other shit, forget it.

and no, Bangs is not infallible. But his central insight into Tull--no rebop--is a good 'un. And I want rebop myself.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno — the church stuff on Aqualung is pretty specific. And good.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know--I always thought that Aqualung was homeless because he grew up poor (Cross-Eyed Mary being the "Robin Hood of High Gate" who could help a brother out sexually if not financially), and homelessness is a stain on Christian culture, the hypocracies of which are elaborated on side 2 of the album. You're right though the rebop isn't there, but it's not like all good music's got it, either. Aqualung's got the rock, opening up with The Riff, and it never lets up over however many songs. I mean whatever, it all comes down to taste. No harm in not liking Tull; but making them out to be bad guys like Bangs does just doesn't register anymore. At least I don't think so.

xpost

martin hilliard, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Even today, they're hard to pin down. I think at the bare minimum, even if you can't stand what my friend once described as "Ian Anderson's village idiot routine," you have to credit him with writing several very melodic, even atmopheric, acoustic songs. Chris Dahlen and I were brainstorming what all of them were and came up with:

"Wond'ring Aloud"
"Slipstream" (I think)
"Thick as A Brick" (the intro, but many other parts, too)
"Skating Away On the Thin Ice of a New Day"
"One White Duck/Nothing At All"
"Baker St. Muse"
"Salamander" (again, I think -- it's been awhile)
"Dun Ringill"

My personal tastes tell me they also have a few very good hard rock moments, including "Minstrel In the Gallery", "Pibroch" and much of Aqualung. That and Songs From the Wood has a very cool electro-folk production

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Along the same lines, nobody who hears "Cheap Day Return" with an open mind could not get the shivers. There's some spooky acoustic tip these guys were on early on that's pretty evil and pagan.

martin hilliard, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Thick as a Brick really is ridiculously good. Sweet tunes, fierce playing, beautifully arranged. The strings near the end are next level.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 4 August 2007 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

"Locomotive Breath" still rocks greatly.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 4 August 2007 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

1) ...If this album were a one-off by an obscure British folk band (a la Mellow Candle) it would fetch hundreds of $$$$ in collector's circles.

Yes yes yes. In the run up to becoming full-on prog, they created some moody and unfussy stuff. Stand Up layers all sorts of acoustic instruments with blues riffing in a way that is intuitive and natural, rather than the hyper-organized feel they soon took on. Really solid songs that would hold up outside of the textures and arrangements.

bendy, Saturday, 4 August 2007 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

Their true masterpiece was "A Passion Play". Jethro Tull at their most progressive was also Jethro Tull at their best.

But they did some interesting folk influenced stuff later too.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 4 August 2007 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

To me, Minstrel In The Gallery through Stormwatch = classic. The expansive prog notions recompressed into concise songs without losing the progginess.

The stuff from the first heyday's great, but I don't get the urge to put it on very often.

The string of high-concept records (Thick, Passion, Too Old) I have no time for.

Jon Lewis, Saturday, 4 August 2007 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

i own 'aqualung'. i like it and think it's pretty creative and inspired, but i don't listen to it often

Charlie Howard, Sunday, 5 August 2007 06:25 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

I went to see them live a few days ago. I only really went along to the gig after a mate said he wanted to go.

I hadn't much listened to them for 30 years, and though I wasn't a big fan I had mates who were very keen indeed and back in the day I did have a soft spot for the quirkier, pop-eyed silliness.

Before the gig I was kinda worried about all that zany 70s catweazle'n'codpiece stuff, since I figured it wouldn't have aged well...

I needn't have worried as there wasn't much of it, indeed there wasn't nearly enough of it. Stripped of the theatrics, left pretty much the music unadorned, though that did reveal some elements which I hadn't noticed before (or didn't know anything about to notice) such as the Mingus influences (though I guess the Roland Kirk stuff was always obvious).

Mainly though they sounded polite 80s rock. Barre's guitar sounded especially cleaned up, Dire Straits and (80s) Supertramp.

So not great then, mostly not even good, but now and then there were flashes about what made them interesting and did confirm there were interesting bits in the War child and earlier albums.

Sandy Blair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Their guitarist kicks ass and besides that they are fucking Jethro Tull. So many songs to love by them.

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 06:39 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Oh god, I had an urge to hear "Skating Away" so I downloaded the Anniversary collection and I'm kind of enjoying it.

Kill me.

Full Metal Slanket (Oilyrags), Friday, 1 May 2009 17:01 (ten years ago) link

They are classic beyond classic.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 1 May 2009 20:29 (ten years ago) link

people who HATE this band hate fun

kamerad, Friday, 1 May 2009 20:32 (ten years ago) link

honestly though no, sub out something for "Requiem" off Minstrel in the Gallery

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 11 November 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

Though a Tull fan since age 9, the thing of this year for me has been: the album A is a great album. It’s closer to oingo boingo than 70s tull and unlike anything else in the discography but turns out it rules

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 11 November 2018 18:52 (one year ago) link

Not a POX, but I did try a singles poll a few years ago:

Jethro Tull...They Were a Singles Band!

clemenza, Sunday, 11 November 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

I like to put on Stand Up every once in a while.

o. nate, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 02:15 (one year ago) link

One of my early mixes was just all their slow or super light-hearted tracks. Summerday Sands, Requiem, Wond’ring Aloud, One White Duck, For Michael Collins, Jeffrey And Me...

I feel like that would be a good way back in if I were to revisit the band anytime soon.

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 03:04 (one year ago) link

I remember clipping the tiny instrumental segments right before and after ‘The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles’ and putting at least one of them in my mix. Such a beautiful little passage.

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 03:18 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

My highlight of last year: A Passion Play. Any moment in life could be improved by shifting into one of the main transitions from that album.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 January 2019 20:24 (one year ago) link

I need to spend more time with it, and Aqualung, they are my most neglected, I tend to just go straight to Benefit, Stand Up and Songs From The Wood these days.

MaresNest, Friday, 4 January 2019 20:52 (one year ago) link

I've tried so many times to get into A Passion Play and every time I do I always come away from it thinking "wow, that was a bit of a slog" ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:53 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjZ2LxmRJ8E

MaresNest, Friday, 11 January 2019 18:21 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I used to listen to this group a bit when I was a baby teen but have largely blanked on it since. I'd probably still remember every bit of Aqualung and TAAB though.

Anyway, HMV have two of the Steven Wilson remix CDs for a tenner - which should I get first, the aforementioned two or A Passion Play and Stand Up, neither of which I'm familiar with AFAIR?

*there's (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:22 (ten months ago) link

Stand up is a better album but passion play probably benefits more from wilsonization

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:34 (ten months ago) link

I'll be quite thrilled if Stand Up is better, because if I haven't made it clear here, Passion Play is probably my favorite album I've heard in the last 3 or 4 years.

Started Too Old To Rock'n Roll. It's the least impressive Tull album I've heard so far (of the 7 I've heard) but "From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser" is an obvious standout, lovely.

I've enjoyed the deluxe book a lot. I had no idea Dave Gibbons drew the sleeve comic before he had done anything big, he's interviewed. An interview with two members of John Glascock's earlier band Carmen (one of them was Glascock's girlfriend), a Visconti produced flamenco band who were on the rise before disastrous mismanagement killed them. A story about Anderson and Rockette Morton going motorbiking together. And more photos that are making me believe that Tull has more fun photos than any other band.
Anderson's notes on the songs continue to be interesting. He talks about Britain's sleazy and exploitative tv gameshows. He had felt that spending money like crazy is disrespecting the fans who gave him that money. He feels very uncomfortable about the lyrics of "Pied Piper" now and seems to regret it. Discussing another song about dirty old men, he says that singing in character is a risk but sometimes it's the best way to do a song, just hoping people wont assume you're like that character.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 22 March 2019 18:58 (ten months ago) link

Carmen in 1973, more rocky than expected
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ1-hyRJSHY

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 22 March 2019 20:30 (ten months ago) link

In "Bad Eyed And Loveless" he describes a woman as being like a warm fart at Christmas.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:36 (nine months ago) link

Really impressed with Carmen's debut, Fandangos In Space, wasn't expecting anything that great when I was curious about this band.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 30 March 2019 18:18 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Too Old is not a great album. So many songs have their great moments but ultimately don't hit the mark, apart from "From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser" which is amazing. Barrie Barlow hated the title track and I sort of understand why.

Bonus track "Small Cigar" is such a brilliant little character sketch ("if you ask me they're all on their way to upper middle class oblivion"), love it for similar reasons to why I love Ween's "Your Party".

If you are wondering what the deal is with the Too Old deluxe version, you're not alone, I wasn't sure until I read the sleeve notes because the product description doesn't explain it well.
Master tapes for half the album were missing but there was an alternate version of the album recorded for a tv special (somewhere between Top Of The Pops performances and an album length music video) which was considered better than the original album (I agree) so they remastered that and included bonus remasters of half the original album that they could locate and included a flat transfer of the original album.
A dvd includes the tv special, which is okay at best (I think the band don't like it), only one track really makes a halfway decent music video.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 April 2019 18:11 (nine months ago) link

Agree that it's overall a failure and the worst of their prime stretch

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 April 2019 20:35 (nine months ago) link

I think Anderson doesn't care that much for it either, he said the whole thing was just a bit too forced.

I think maybe they recorded maybe a tad too many albums in the 70s.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 April 2019 21:13 (nine months ago) link

I thought War Child was your least favorite?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 April 2019 21:15 (nine months ago) link

Oh no. War Child is the problem piece, with stunning highlights and outtakes that are better than half of what’s on the album, where I’ve neurotically fashioned my own tracklist etc etc. War Child is unsuccessful as an album but TOTRnR is just kinda bad.

I actually think the title track is great until they get to that abominable boogie section

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 April 2019 22:34 (nine months ago) link

I actually like "Prelude" better because it has most of my favorite elements of the title track. It's understandable why it became an anthem for fans, with lyrics like "unfashionable til the end".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 April 2019 22:40 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

"Jack A Lynn" (early version)

I've been on a massive Tull kick lately, listening to the 5.1 mixes I've pulled down online and this version of the song (which ended up as a Broadsword outtake) is just hypnotically beautiful. "Quatrain" is another great Heavy Horses bonus -- this incredible jig. I think I like this stuff more than the record proper.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 16 June 2019 18:25 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.goldminemag.com/news/rhino-to-release-a-special-anniversary-edition-of-jethro-tulls-stormwatch

...40th Anniversary edition of Stormwatch released October 18th 2019

Steven Wilson remix, 6 previously unreleased tracks, a 2-disc live show from 1980. I am v. excited, it's my favorite Tull album and despite that could probably benefit from a remix, the CD has always sounded kind of flat to me.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 19 July 2019 18:29 (six months ago) link

I went to one of the shows on that tour. Crossing my fingers it's included! (I remember yelling super loud during the "Locomotive Breath" intro.)

henry s, Friday, 19 July 2019 18:45 (six months ago) link

Looking forward to it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 July 2019 19:59 (six months ago) link

I may pop for this as I’m regretting that I let so many of these go OOP – the Martin Webb liners are fantastic on the three I have.

They really need to reissue these.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:37 (six months ago) link

'A' in about 6 months from now I guess, that's where I will be stepping off the bus with these reissues I reckon.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 07:59 (six months ago) link

Has A been announced?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 11:03 (six months ago) link

Not sure, I could find out, I can't imagine they're gonna stop now, would be weird if they skipped to Broadsword...

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 11:09 (six months ago) link

Supposedly Wilson likes broadsword but is not interested in A. (I like both but A is the more unique and imo better album even though it is almost like Oingo Tull. Also the live shows for A were insanely good so I sure hope it does get the luxe treatment.

Appreciate if you could get the scoop Mares.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:09 (six months ago) link

Someone else could do a 5.1 of 'A', perhaps Jakko Jakszyk, I have asked about it and await a response.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:19 (six months ago) link

So, it's not definite, but the word is that the most likely outcome will be a Benefit 50th Anniversary release next year, which hasn't yet gotten the box treatment and it's much more likely to sell than A and there's already a 5.1 mix, neatly sidestepping the issue for now.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:07 (six months ago) link

Awesome, I would love a book version of Benefit, the earlier deluxe edition got really scarce in the last year.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:18 (six months ago) link

Here's to 2025 when we'll be fervently dissecting the J-Tull Dot Com box set.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:21 (six months ago) link

if they even have box sets in 2025, instead of just hugs

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:42 (six months ago) link

At this point I’ll take hugs.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 27 July 2019 02:05 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

So I got the Stormwatch book edition, and the weather is right, so it's time to dim the lights, have a Guinness, and listen to this Steven Wilson remix of my favorite Jethro Tull album (Living in the Past is a comp so it doesn't count)...

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 19 October 2019 05:25 (three months ago) link

Ooh do report back
What’s the bonus material? Live show?

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:47 (three months ago) link

November 15th release, will be getting this.

A live show and quite a lot of bonus tracks.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 October 2019 14:48 (three months ago) link

Live show is Den Haag 1980 AKA Watchers on the Storm... almost a two-hour set.

My favorite of the new-to-me bonus tracks is a 9-minute version of Orion, a song called Man of God, and an instrumental called Lyricon Blues. Tullheads seem to know about all this stuff already though? They clearly picked the strongest stuff for the first reissue's bonus tracks (Kelpie, Broadford Bazaar, King Henry's Madrigal) which are all here too. Broadford Bazaar remains a top ten Tull song for me.

Wilson remix of the album sounds great, some of the instrumental cues being a different levels in the new mix throw me just from hearing the original so many times over the years, but it definitely sparkles.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:41 (three months ago) link

Still waiting on mine but I've always loved Orion and am jazzed about the long version.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:18 (three months ago) link

Here's all the info -

https://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/jethro-tull-stormwatch-40th-anniversary-force-10-deluxe-edition/

Maresn3st, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:22 (three months ago) link

The limited runs of these stress me out. I’m not a massive Stormwatch fan but few like I blew the boxes up to Songs from the Wood. I really wished they’d reissue a few of these.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 20 October 2019 12:31 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

A list of Ian's favorite folk albums and how much he actually contributed to producing Steeleye Span. Second link has the bare list if you cant be bothered clicking through pages.

https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ian-andersons-10-essential-folk-rock-albums-622920
https://www.loudersound.com/news/ian-anderson-reveals-folk-rock-heroes

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 23 November 2019 15:55 (two months ago) link

I need to get around to Stormwatch, haven't yet listened as I'm still unpacking and the house is in flux but I listened to 'Isle Of Wight '70' while unpacking yesterday and it rules so hard, then I did Space Ritual, live records are good for menial labour.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:44 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Still digesting Stormwatch and half of it is very good. But I hadn't seen this album collection before
https://www.discogs.com/Jethro-Tull-Original-Album-Series-Volume-Two/release/8691477
Might be a good option when I've caught up with all the preceding albums and see how far the reissues go.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 January 2020 22:58 (two weeks ago) link

it would be, I can't see the reissues program extending that far for a number of years, I only have a couple of those records and I never listen to them, maybe I should revisit.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:53 (two weeks ago) link

I'd be interested to see how Tull themselves think of the albums, because in the reissues so far they aren't always enthusiastic about the albums.

Still cant get over how negatively Passion Play was received, critic Chris Welch hated it and others thought of it as a massive fuckup, I think I said upthread that Martin Barre wasn't that into it. I have been a bit wary of Welch because he seemed entirely negative about punk music (while making an angry face) but I've only seen him talking/writing on several things.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:06 (two weeks ago) link

Roots to Branches is great, there are a few good moments on Crest of a Knave, Under Wraps I’ve still never heard and I don’t like Catfish Rising and Rock Island at all

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 12 January 2020 03:48 (two weeks ago) link


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