Jethro Tull: Classic or Dud?

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Prog's only singles band?

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

...well I LOVE 'Living In The Past' - that flute sound really sums up an era for me. Have you heard Cud's version - it's sung against Mission Impossible - works perfectly.

Jez, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link


Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Living In The Past is great, although I have to admit I am still ashamed that I like it. I fear all else.

emil.y, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Living in the Past is a great, great collection of songs, better than their actual albums I think. Honest oddities like "Inside," bitter little Ian Andersonisms a la "Christmas Song," and intriguing things like "Witch's Promise" and nonsense like "Singing All Day" .. Don't be ashamed with your good taste, e.mily.

Songs from the Wood and Aqualung aren't bad albums, either. But you can skip "A Passion Play," their 60-minute-opus w/fairy-tale- intermission, as well as all of their 80's material. 'Living in the Past' =/= synthesizers.

Dare, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ouch. emil.y that is.

Dare, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Insert Heavy Metal/ Metallica Joke here. OK - it's done - forget it.

Tull - one of those bands that everyone secretly likes.... for about 25 minutes at a time, every few years.

Teacher, Locomotive Breath - classics.

Dave225, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Any time I hear Jethro Tull, I think of Stellan Skarsgård getting [SPOILER!!!] beaned in the head.

Andy K, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

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a-33, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

At the same time or on different occasions?

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

'Summerday Sands' Is a super song, and so is "Thick as a Brick": I put that on when I'm painting houses.

A Nairn, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link


Sweet Dream video from "Slipstream": CLASSIC!

Joe, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Have to admit that Tull is a guilty pleasure every once in awhile.

Pump Wellington, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There's quite a dilemma; yes, Jethro Tull have some brilliant tunes; yes, I have... uh... fond childhood memories connected with them (you may all now feel thoroughly disgusted); but really, that BEARD is a CRIME against HUMANITY and it must be STOPPED.

Elisa, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Has ILM consensus finally been achieved?

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There's lots by Jethro Tull that I find boring at best, and Ian Anderson can get pretty affected, but their best stuff is really good. "Wond'ring Aloud" and "Mother Goose" are beautiful songs.

Phil, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The sound of Ian Anderson taking a deep breath in the middle of a flute solo a la Locomotive Breath = CLASSIC,even if only for its hilarity.

Damian, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i kind of assume i hate em but to be honest i only know quite a small amount: the JT fan i was at achool with was far and away the weirdest fellow i knew

mark s, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm listening to "Skating Away on the Thin Ice of a New Day" right now, and I must say, it sounds pretty damn good. I say classic.

o. nate, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus, it's like punk NEVER HAPPENED!

Andrew L, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it anything like emo?

Prude, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
"Tull - one of those bands that everyone secretly likes.... for about 25 minutes at a time, every few years."

I'd say more like every TEN years...just like the Doors!

Matt Riedl (veal), Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I quite like that Aqualung, even though it is uttery absurd. There's some good stuff on there though, you know, the one that goes: dum dum de de de de dum dum; blah du, de blah du, de blah du, de blah du; dum dum de de dum day dum, wah wah waaaa wa wa wa wah wah waaah... etc

Roger Fascist, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
He added: “The moment when the new Palmer identity was revealed to me was when the then, still David, phoned me to say ‘Ian, there’s something I need to get off my increasingly ample chest’.”

Between that and Jackie Enx of Rhino Bucket, it shows that Jayne County was merely the start of something good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link

you mean it wasn't ian that became a she?

you know, my dad and my philly relatives pronounce "ann" and "ian" almost identically.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 24 January 2004 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I pretty much gave my all for "Stand Up", "Benefit", "Aqualung" and - somewhat - for "Thick As A Brick", but ended up gving away their later releases. You have to keep in mind, though, the context in which this stuff was first heard {in amongst the likes of ...America, Neil Diamond and The Carpenters} wuz just a little bit awesome. Just another old guy talking here... [ me ]
I still revisit.

jim wentworth (wench), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Stand Up and Benefit are both great! Aqualung is pretty solid too. That's about as far as I go.

I love "A New Day Yesterday" and "To Cry You a Song".

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Songs from the Woods is an incredible album.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

About as dud as you can get without being The Grateful Dead.

(though "Living In The Past" is a nice tune)

LondonLee (LondonLee), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:35 (sixteen years ago) link

These are my initial and rambling thoughts:

I love pretty much everything up to "War Child", plus "Songs from the Wood" and "Heavy Horses"*. I don't think "Stormwatch" is bad. The lyrics on most of "Minstrel in the Gallery" (except for the title song) start to make me cringe. "Broadsword and the Beast" has an unpleasant, bloated-puffy synthesizer sound as well as pretty uninteresting songs. "Crest of a Knave" is hard to imagine as the same band - I can't stand Martin Barre's guitar sound at that time, and the lyrics are brutal. "Rock Island" and "Catfish Rising", as probably everyone will tell you, are just embarassing. I haven't heard anything since, though a friend has told me that "" (sp?) is not too bad.

*I do think that "Thick as a Brick" is a bit structurally clunky, but when I consider that it was kind of a big piss-take of a concept album, it makes sense that it's that way - it's a pretty funny idea for an album. "A Passion Play" is my favourite: the saxophone and synthesizer parts sound great and the melodies are really deft. I don't know why people got mad about "The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles". "War Child" continues with similar arrangements and impressive playing (Barriemore Barlow is a superb drummer), though I'd have preferred "Bungle in the Jungle" as a non-LP single.

Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 06:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I listened to them back in the day. Like everyone. "Living in the Past" is good but his vocal kind of makes me laugh--he's trying so hard to "swing" and "go Latin" somehow (the flute playing too) and he's just so fucking English and doesn't make it, no way. But the early stuff like on "Benefit" is sort of all right, some nice riffs. "Aqualung" was huge when it came out and a required pretentioso purchase for everyone too dumb to spend their money on JBs albums or something. Because we'd been sold this Jethro Tull shit. There's some movie with Owen? Luke? Wilson and Steve Buscemi about these schlubs who get recruited for a mission to blow up an asteroid and during the interviews Luke? Owen? is asked what really bothers him. "That people think Jethro Tull is just a dude in the band..."

But it's not offensive like ELP (whose best moments were Greg Lake's Paul McCartney/Neil Young knockoff songs w/ cheap synth solos just to remind you who's IN CHARGE HERE). And the later dumb pop hits he had, around the mid-'70s, are quite enjoyable. Normally I don't bring up Lester Bangs but his piece "Jethro Tull in Vietnam" does sum it all up nicely.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Lester Bangs wasn't infallible; Tull is pretty classic. There should be some kind of rule (the Jethro Tull rule?) where if you make at least three great albums you shouldn't have shit albums count against you. Notwithstanding all their crap, the three great Tull albums are

1) Stand Up. One of the great, great psychedelic albums, stuffed with killer riffs and enough otherworldly moods to simulate or enhance being baked. If this album were a one-off by an obscure British folk band (a la Mellow Candle) it would fetch hundreds of $$$$ in collector's circles.
2) Aqualung. There isn't a bad song on it. The flute solo in "My God" is some scary shit. In my experience people who badmouth this are trying to prove another point, like they're cool, or even good music can get overplayed, or something.
3) Thick as a Brick. Some parts drag, but there's no other album like it (I guess besides Passion Play), and most of it's engaging, not an easy thing to pull off over the course of 40+ minutes.

Songs from the Wood, War Child, Benefit, and Minstrel in the Gallery aren't bad, either, and there are timeless singles like "Living in the Past" to get off on.

There's also a ton of shitty albums--Too Old to Rock & Roll. . ., A, Stormwatch, etc. but who cares, really.

martin hilliard, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, but that Aqualung guy--he smoked too much or what? It's that level of non-specific '70s social commentary crap that gets me about the great band of seed-drillers, you know. If it had been just about another band and the dude plays a flute, then fine. But that other shit, forget it.

and no, Bangs is not infallible. But his central insight into Tull--no rebop--is a good 'un. And I want rebop myself.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno — the church stuff on Aqualung is pretty specific. And good.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know--I always thought that Aqualung was homeless because he grew up poor (Cross-Eyed Mary being the "Robin Hood of High Gate" who could help a brother out sexually if not financially), and homelessness is a stain on Christian culture, the hypocracies of which are elaborated on side 2 of the album. You're right though the rebop isn't there, but it's not like all good music's got it, either. Aqualung's got the rock, opening up with The Riff, and it never lets up over however many songs. I mean whatever, it all comes down to taste. No harm in not liking Tull; but making them out to be bad guys like Bangs does just doesn't register anymore. At least I don't think so.


martin hilliard, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Even today, they're hard to pin down. I think at the bare minimum, even if you can't stand what my friend once described as "Ian Anderson's village idiot routine," you have to credit him with writing several very melodic, even atmopheric, acoustic songs. Chris Dahlen and I were brainstorming what all of them were and came up with:

"Wond'ring Aloud"
"Slipstream" (I think)
"Thick as A Brick" (the intro, but many other parts, too)
"Skating Away On the Thin Ice of a New Day"
"One White Duck/Nothing At All"
"Baker St. Muse"
"Salamander" (again, I think -- it's been awhile)
"Dun Ringill"

My personal tastes tell me they also have a few very good hard rock moments, including "Minstrel In the Gallery", "Pibroch" and much of Aqualung. That and Songs From the Wood has a very cool electro-folk production

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Along the same lines, nobody who hears "Cheap Day Return" with an open mind could not get the shivers. There's some spooky acoustic tip these guys were on early on that's pretty evil and pagan.

martin hilliard, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Thick as a Brick really is ridiculously good. Sweet tunes, fierce playing, beautifully arranged. The strings near the end are next level.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 4 August 2007 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link

"Locomotive Breath" still rocks greatly.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 4 August 2007 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link

1) ...If this album were a one-off by an obscure British folk band (a la Mellow Candle) it would fetch hundreds of $$$$ in collector's circles.

Yes yes yes. In the run up to becoming full-on prog, they created some moody and unfussy stuff. Stand Up layers all sorts of acoustic instruments with blues riffing in a way that is intuitive and natural, rather than the hyper-organized feel they soon took on. Really solid songs that would hold up outside of the textures and arrangements.

bendy, Saturday, 4 August 2007 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Their true masterpiece was "A Passion Play". Jethro Tull at their most progressive was also Jethro Tull at their best.

But they did some interesting folk influenced stuff later too.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 4 August 2007 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

To me, Minstrel In The Gallery through Stormwatch = classic. The expansive prog notions recompressed into concise songs without losing the progginess.

The stuff from the first heyday's great, but I don't get the urge to put it on very often.

The string of high-concept records (Thick, Passion, Too Old) I have no time for.

Jon Lewis, Saturday, 4 August 2007 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i own 'aqualung'. i like it and think it's pretty creative and inspired, but i don't listen to it often

Charlie Howard, Sunday, 5 August 2007 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

I went to see them live a few days ago. I only really went along to the gig after a mate said he wanted to go.

I hadn't much listened to them for 30 years, and though I wasn't a big fan I had mates who were very keen indeed and back in the day I did have a soft spot for the quirkier, pop-eyed silliness.

Before the gig I was kinda worried about all that zany 70s catweazle'n'codpiece stuff, since I figured it wouldn't have aged well...

I needn't have worried as there wasn't much of it, indeed there wasn't nearly enough of it. Stripped of the theatrics, left pretty much the music unadorned, though that did reveal some elements which I hadn't noticed before (or didn't know anything about to notice) such as the Mingus influences (though I guess the Roland Kirk stuff was always obvious).

Mainly though they sounded polite 80s rock. Barre's guitar sounded especially cleaned up, Dire Straits and (80s) Supertramp.

So not great then, mostly not even good, but now and then there were flashes about what made them interesting and did confirm there were interesting bits in the War child and earlier albums.

Sandy Blair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Their guitarist kicks ass and besides that they are fucking Jethro Tull. So many songs to love by them.

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Oh god, I had an urge to hear "Skating Away" so I downloaded the Anniversary collection and I'm kind of enjoying it.

Kill me.

Full Metal Slanket (Oilyrags), Friday, 1 May 2009 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

They are classic beyond classic.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 1 May 2009 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

people who HATE this band hate fun

kamerad, Friday, 1 May 2009 20:32 (twelve years ago) link


gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:44 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Hey all, another recent D1me appearance that I thought worth sharing, this time it's from the very talented and well-known taper Mike Millard and it's really good.

Jethro Tull
Civic Auditorium
Pasadena, CA
January 14, 1977

01 Skating Away (On The Thin Ice Of A New Day)
02 Jack-In-The-Green
03 Crazed Institution
04 Fire At Midnight
05 Instrumental
06 Thick As A Brick
07 Songs From The Wood
08 To Cry You A Song
09 A New Day Yesterday > Flute Solo incl. Bouree & Quartet > Living In The Past
10 Velvet Green
11 Too Old To Rock'n' Roll
12 Bungle In The Jungle
13 Beethoven's Ninth Symphony
14 Minstrel In The Gallery
15 Hunting Girl
16 Cross-Eyed Mary
17 Aqualung
18 Guitar Solo
19 Wind-Up
20 Back-Door Angels
21 Wind-Up (reprise)
22 Locomotive Breath
23 Land Of Hope And Glory

Maresn3st, Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:37 (one year ago) link

I don’t think I know “crazed institution”!

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 4 October 2020 21:29 (one year ago) link

It's on Too Old to R&R...

Maresn3st, Sunday, 4 October 2020 21:40 (one year ago) link

Lol that explains it

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 4 October 2020 22:25 (one year ago) link

Thanks! A nice adjunct to the live set on the Songs from the Wood deluxe edition, which was from November/December of 1977.

In other news, the impending release of deluxe book editions of Benefit, "A", and the Broadsword and the Beast over the next year or two have been "confirmed" if you are willing to dig through some of the Tull threads on the Hoffman forums. I think only Benefit is on the cards for a 2020 release though (but nothing is really official yet).

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Sunday, 4 October 2020 23:16 (one year ago) link

Wilson remix or the other guy?

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 4 October 2020 23:56 (one year ago) link

Wilson, supposedly (the Benefit is definitely him since it's been released in non-book format before)

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Sunday, 4 October 2020 23:59 (one year ago) link

Super amped for the shows that will presumably come with A and Broadsword. That band was spectacular.

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Monday, 5 October 2020 00:38 (one year ago) link

(I realize there were changes between those two tours)

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Monday, 5 October 2020 00:38 (one year ago) link

It seems the Broadsword era has a wealth of bonus tracks, but I've been spending a lot of time with 'A' this year so I'm kinda jazzed to see what that one will turn up (and as you note, the early 80s lineup was a fantastic one!)

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 5 October 2020 01:47 (one year ago) link

One more, not as sweet as the '77 one but pretty solid nonetheless -

Jethro Tull 1980 10 6 Civic Center Hartford CT USA
101 Min. Aud. A-

Lineage: Sony D-6 Nak 300 / master tape > Sony TC-KE600S > Audigy2 > soundforge 8 > CD Architect 5.2 > Traders Little Helper

Black Sunday,
Songs From The Wood,
Hunting Girl,
Jams O'Donnell's Jigs,
Working John Working Joe,
Fylingdale Flyer,
The Pine Marten's Jig,
Heavy Horses,
Skating Away... /solos .
Batteries Not Included,
Protect And Survive,
Locomotive Breath/ Black Sunday (reprise)

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 23:04 (one year ago) link

Interesting to compare this set to Watchers on the Storm from March 1980... only seven months later they've erased every song from Stormwatch from their set!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:12 (one year ago) link

After six months of no haircut nor shaving, I think this might be the year to be 1970s Ian Anderson for Halloween.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 15:36 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

great! keep 'em coming!

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 19:09 (eight months ago) link

I was hoping they'd loop back around for Benefit, Broadsword excepted, I think I'm off the bus after this one.

The Goodies font (Maresn3st), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 19:16 (eight months ago) link

I think the Benefit reissue in book format is going to happen later this year

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 19:22 (eight months ago) link

A is great and that show they are including slays

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 23:24 (eight months ago) link

Gone up today on D1me, I know we have some nice ones from '77 but it's ace, so I thought I'd share.

PRRP 054
Jethro Tull
Apollo Theatre
Manchester, England
February 5th 1977

Sound Board Recording

Lineage: SB/TDK Cro/NAD6050C/SB Audigy 2/Audacity>WAV/CDRCue/MediaCoder>FLAC Level 8

Disc 1
01 Wondr'ing Aloud 2:29
02 Skating Away 4:53
03 Jack-In-The-Green 3:43
04 Thick As A Brick 14:28
05 Songs From The Wood 5:07
06 Instrumental-Drum Solo 2:59
07 To Cry You A Song 2:33
08 A New Day Yesterday 2:49
09 Flute Solo 7:18
10 Living In The Past 1:37
11 A New Day Yesterday (reprise) 2:49
12 Velvet Green 6:57
Total Time 57:42

Disc 2
01 Hunting Girl 6:33
02 Too Old To Rock'N'Roll 4:01
03 Beethoven's Ninth Symphony 3:13
04 Minstrel In The Gallery 5:22
05 Aqualung 9:16
06 Guitar Solo 3:05
07 Wind-Up 4:41
08 Back Door Angels 4:56
09 Wind-Up (repise) 2:28
10 Locomotive Breath 5:46
11 Land Of Hope and Glory 2:24
12 Back Door Angels (reprise) 1:34
Total Time: 53:19

Ian Anderson - vocals, flute, guitar
Martin Barre - guitar
John Glascock - bass guitar
Barriemore Barlow - drums
John Evan - keyboards
David Palmer - keyboards, saxophone

Acquired this from one of the Tull road crew several years ago & then promptly forgot I had it. Does not seem to have
surfaced anywhere, so this should help fill in the missing gaps at The Ministry of Information. The very first
track on the tape is the instrumental Quartet, played over the PA in the theatre, and which can be found on the
Nightcap album (highly recommended). The first instrumental is also incomplete - otherwise the this is the concert
in its entirety.

The Goodies font (Maresn3st), Friday, 19 February 2021 22:36 (eight months ago) link

nice, thanks

mookieproof, Friday, 19 February 2021 22:43 (eight months ago) link

here's an oldie that we've utterly loathed for 16 long years, but now it's resurrected, in a slightly more trickier form that's a little more fun to play -- this one is CALLED . . . living . . . in the PAST

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 February 2021 02:36 (eight months ago) link

Thanks for the link, I really appreciate these shows you’ve been hooking us up with

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 27 February 2021 00:21 (seven months ago) link

Was talking upthread about Tull-related band Carmen, the debut album Fandangos In Space is seriously fucking amazing. Don't let it slip past you. The way they incorporated dancing into the music is so cool.

I'm placing them alongside Comus and Jacula as a great 70s band that never got very big at all. They were very well liked by some of the biggest bands of the time and toured with or were slotted to tour with them and everything could have went great if not for a series of shit events that destroyed them.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:11 (seven months ago) link

Still, there's 4 albums and I think Visconti produced them all?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:12 (seven months ago) link

Just got the second Carmen double pack, you can get all 4 albums in 2 double packs, first one is slightly scarcer. Trying to think why prog fans haven't embraced them more because there is enough of that in them.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 13 March 2021 23:59 (seven months ago) link

I'm interested

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 March 2021 00:00 (seven months ago) link

Q&A with Ian Anderson from a couple days ago, not a lot there but some good (and funny) answers to various questions

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Sunday, 14 March 2021 02:36 (seven months ago) link

50th Anniversary special about Aqualung... Ian breaks down each song and then it plays in full, very nice.

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Saturday, 20 March 2021 04:21 (seven months ago) link

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 March 2021 04:50 (seven months ago) link

Forgot about that

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 March 2021 11:39 (seven months ago) link

I don't know Carmen at all, but the wiki features some nutty stuff:

David Clark Allen continued to pursue a music career after Carmen disbanded. He played guitar on Michelle Phillip's solo album produced by Jack Nitzsche and was managed by Herb Cohen during the late 70s. He wrote two songs (Shame and Stay) for Agnetha's solo album, Wrap Your Arms Around Me - produced by Mike Chapman and a single release by Swedish band Katz - Heart Beats Stronger. David was diagnosed with thyroid/throat cancer in the early 80s. After a successful operation and radioactive therapy, he changed his name to Housk Randall - and became a sexual anthropologist/photographer. As Housk he had 5 books published in 4 languages: Revelations, Rituals of Love, The Customised Body, Piercing, Radical Desire and Bizarre Rubber - a photographic fantasy catalogue for fetish designers DeMask. In 1996 he married, changed his name to David Randall-Goddard and established a successful family photographic studio Family Portraits.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 March 2021 13:28 (seven months ago) link

As probably mentioned upthread, I've never spent much time with Tull beyond whatever's come on the radio, but yesterday I heard "Hymn 43" for the first time in decades and it kicked ass.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 March 2021 13:30 (seven months ago) link

David Clark Allen was a really stylish looking guy. He often posts about new flamenco fusion bands on his blog.

I feel averse to posting whole albums but their so obscure at this point I don't think it could hurt too much.

Quite pleased to find this

"It's amazing," Opeth frontman Mikael Akerfeldt told Metal Hammer in 2012. "It's a crazy flamenco prog-rock folk record! They had tap dancing on the record and castanets too! Everyone I've played it to has been blown away by it."

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 March 2021 18:54 (seven months ago) link

For some reason the most popular version of the album on youtube cuts off half of the first song, so I chosen another one for the link above.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 March 2021 18:55 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

Benefit getting the book treatment now -

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 12:03 (three weeks ago) link

I will buy this mainly for shelf consistency, since the previous deluxe edition isn't book-sized.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:04 (three weeks ago) link

Me too, although good quality live recordings for that era are always interesting.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:32 (three weeks ago) link

actually wow, they are including two live sets from 1970, including one on video! that's going above and beyond. especially since these cost around $40-50 and not $100+.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:34 (three weeks ago) link

This and Stand Up are my two favourite Tull records, or at least the ones I return to all the time, then having Singing All Day, 17 and Teacher at the back end, so great!

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 21:41 (three weeks ago) link

I’ll be getting this tho would love to find a good indie retailer in the States instead of paying £17 shipping 😳.

Still hoping they may do a run of earlier ones at some point. War Child, Minstrel, and Passion in particular.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 8 October 2021 20:48 (one week ago) link

I found (to my shock) that I have a spare copy of the A Passion Play box, so I had a look at the Discogs price jfc!

Maresn3st, Friday, 8 October 2021 22:14 (one week ago) link

Lmk if you turn up a spare copy of SftW

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 8 October 2021 22:33 (one week ago) link

Bull Moose out of Maine is pretty good with these, if you pre-order you're reasonably sure to get one.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 8 October 2021 22:37 (one week ago) link

I found (to my shock) that I have a spare copy of the A Passion Play box, so I had a look at the Discogs price jfc!

if you’re interested in selling it without making much of a profit I would be interested.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:12 (one week ago) link

I think I have two copies because my wife was tangentially involved in the reissue process so every time one came out, I would ask her to bring home a copy for me and one for my mate and I think I must not have given him this one for some reason? So, I'm going to message him first.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 9 October 2021 08:26 (one week ago) link

That seems eminently fair and sensible!

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 9 October 2021 17:24 (one week ago) link

As would you selling it for the price of a kidney on Discogs, should you so choose.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 9 October 2021 17:25 (one week ago) link

My mate can have it for £350 :)

Maresn3st, Saturday, 9 October 2021 18:47 (one week ago) link

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