The Chic organisation - geniuses or what ?

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Am I alone in thinking this ?

Darren, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

You are not.

Tom, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh my yes. There really REALLY ought to be a Chic Org. boxed set, or at least 2CD somethingorother. Best guitar playing of ANY disco records, and just about the best lyrics, too.

Douglas, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Geniuses!

Curt, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

No argument here.

Andy K, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Yowza. Mr. Rogers' neighborhood included some great projects. He was behind more than Chic. -jeff

mxyzptlk, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I remember hearing 'At Last I Am Free' by Robert Wyatt on the radio and loving it. When I finally got the CD, I was very surprised to find out that it was a Chic song. Actually, I had that Chic record, but never really paid attention to it.

Ron Hudson, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

second the vote for the Chic Org box; in the meantime The Disco Years Vol. 4: Lost in Music (Rhino) is a good overview of the other stuff they did. Sister Sledge's "We Are Family"/"He's the Greatest Dancer" 12-inch may be the greatest double-sided single by anybody, ever

M Matos, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Bernard Edwards was a fussy, baroque version of Rick Finch, but still good though. I mean, NOBODY was as good as Rick Finch.

Bayonet Bulb, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Genius - yes! Best guitar, bass, drums - yes! Box set - yes! It's an agree-fest.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

raise your standards ilm!

mark s, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Meaning?

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

meaning = "Agree-fest alert yes yes they are genius as any fule kno => ILM CHALLENGE: say something derogatory about Chic"

mark s, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I was introduced to Nile Rodgers as a Duran Duran producer, but i won't hold that against him.

A nice man made a mix tape full of weird avant garde stuff and stuck 'at last i am free' on the end as some light relief which was nice.

Leigh, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

say something derogatory about Chic

Ok, they were formulaic? Their formula was pretty good, tho.

Sean, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

The only negative thing I can find to say is that Tony Thompson, one of my three favourite drummers ever, made one of the two worst artistic band-switches ever: he went from Chic to Power Station. I know there were extenuating circumstances, but that's a colossal step down. (My other such nomination is when Mick Ralphs went from Mott the Hoople to Bad Company. I did think Bobby Gillespie might be a third once, but I was proved hugely wrong - and at least he had the reason of wanting his own band.)

Martin Skidmore, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
I got something negative to say, their lyrics were uniformly poor. The "clams on the half shell and roller skates"? Funny, but just bad once you've laughed a couple times. Double-ditto for "Respectfully I say to thee", not even funny, just reaching for rhymes and not really cutting it. Lots of other examples, all less famous. GREAT music, performance and production, though.

Matt Riedl (veal), Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Nile Rodgers is currently producing the new Duran Duran album, in the original line-up. His dream is to produce a new Van Halen album with David Lee Roth. Says so on billboard.com today. So what did he do besides Chic, Sister Sledge, Duran Duran. Off the top of my head I can think of Diana Ross, Madonna, David Bowie...

JoB, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...
is there such a thing as an official dub of 'dance dance dance'? or was I dancing to some bootleg re-edit?

H2-H4 (H2-H4), Sunday, 12 November 2006 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Of course they were geniuses. Are you kidding?

Pump up the pumpkin, pump up the pumpkin dance dance (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 November 2006 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Chic-era Sister Sledge is like crack, man. Don't even get me started. I've got plenty of other music to get to tonight without pulling that into the picture again.

Pump up the pumpkin, pump up the pumpkin dance dance (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 November 2006 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

The dub of 'Dance Dance Dance' could be Greg Wilson's Edit from this
http://www.discogs.com/release/508211

Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 12 November 2006 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The Bernard Edwards remix of "Lost in Music" released in 1984 is the single greatest piece of music ever recorded.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

is that the one on rhino's larry levan compilation?

a.b. (alanbanana), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Yup!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

if that is the same edit, H just missed a 6-hr set (with live sampling on reel-to-reel) by the bloke responsible the other week!

occasional mongrel (kit brash), Monday, 13 November 2006 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

stirmonster's version of "lost in music" is pretty ill, too

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 13 November 2006 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I know kit, I was out of town that weekend! ;(

H2-H4 (H2-H4), Monday, 13 November 2006 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Not bad for the generally very bad disco genre.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Ugh, Geir...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Infuriating statements (TM)
Listen Geir, I'm willing to bet that practically all the composers you appreciate would disagree with you. On hip hop as well btw.

blunt (blunt), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Can someone please help me? I want to get back to what Nile Rodgers said in an interview (on BBC?) about that term "Yowsah Yowsah Yowsah". Didn't he say he'd been inspired by the film from 1969 called "They Shoot Horses Don't They?" If anyone can manage to find the quote of what he said about that, I'd be so grateful. Thanks.

Bimble, Sunday, 17 June 2007 08:09 (fifteen years ago) link

The line is uttered by the emcee, played by Gig Young.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Also spoken by Richie Cunningham in the Happy Days "They Shoot Fonzies, Don't They" episode.

dlp9001, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Le Freak, c'est Chic

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 08:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Did a Chic Org box set ever come out?

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

OMG OMG OMG: http://www.empsfm.org/education/index.asp?categoryID=26

Matos W.K., Friday, 20 February 2009 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

In 2007, I discovered a set of masters to the album while combing through the Warner Bros. vaults for material related to an upcoming Chic boxed set. As the producer of that project, I will be discussing both the history behind the album’s original recording and subsequent suppression as well as the current attempt to bring it back into light. I’ll also be touching on some of the challenges facing recovery projects of this sort, especially in a time where record companies are making it more difficult to search through archived material for just these kinds of forgotten recordings.

This is from the abstract for a paper at EMP '09 about Johnny Mathis's never-released I Love My Lady, produced by the Org. So fucking excited.

Matos W.K., Friday, 20 February 2009 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

woah

Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 20 February 2009 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

oh holy God yes.

J0hn D., Friday, 20 February 2009 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

My feet keep dancing.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 February 2009 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

My stomach hurts now.

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 20 February 2009 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait...where's the link to that Chic box quote????

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 20 February 2009 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

one post above the quote

Matos W.K., Friday, 20 February 2009 07:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh goodness, that's just to the front page for Pop Conference. The quote is from Andy Zax's abstract: http://www.empsfm.org/education/index.asp?categoryID=26&ccID=127&xPopConfBioID=1228&year=2009

Matos W.K., Friday, 20 February 2009 07:35 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG! Sooooo go and report back pretty please!!!

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 20 February 2009 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, I'm really glad we cleared that up. I was wondering exactly which of the zillion people contributing to this thing was actually responsible for that quote! I figured everyone on the entire board reading this must know the answer but me, and I gave up.

Coffee Table LP's Never Breathe! (Bimble), Saturday, 21 February 2009 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Browsing iTunes this morning, I found Adventures in the Land of the Good Groove! Is it worth buying?

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2009 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Chic are incredible. Someone should remaster their original studio albums on CD as they're dainty quiet. Honestly, I would do it if I knew how.

Maybe there isn't a reasonable demand and people are simply happy with their most well-known songs on compilations..

David Katz (davek_00), Friday, 22 January 2010 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Chic are incredible. Someone should remaster their original studio albums on CD as they're dainty quiet. Honestly, I would do it if I knew how.

Maybe there isn't a reasonable demand and people are simply happy with their most well-known songs on compilations..

― David Katz (davek_00), Friday, 22 January 2010 23:04 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

I agree.

The lack of a Chic Box-set is a tragedy too.

All the Chic stuff sounds best on vinyl, and especially 12". The Cd's sound subdued at times.

Good God! Is there a band anywhere that deserves to be heard more?

The Broken Brothers, Friday, 22 January 2010 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

Noting this am that the Sheila and B Devotion LP really is Nile and 'Nard's Abba record.

What a year 1980 was for those guys.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:19 (nine years ago) link

Would totally get the Chic Org box set but there are a couple of Amazon reviewers saying it's poorly mastered, not as full sounding as it should be. Anyone care to disagree?

Love this exchange from Nile Rodgers' twitter earlier today:
Fan - When do you sleep?!
NR - On airplanes.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:27 (nine years ago) link

Doesn't sound poorly remastered to me at all, au contraire!

willem, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:37 (nine years ago) link

Why, given how protective Nile has been over his own mixes, are some of the singles in the boxed set represented only as Dmitri From Paris remixes?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:41 (nine years ago) link

love the Chic s/t so much, but have always been vaguely creeped out by the cover photo for reasons I can't explain

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 25 April 2013 19:02 (nine years ago) link

Never seen this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBKYUr9robI#!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 April 2013 15:55 (nine years ago) link

http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145249

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 April 2013 15:57 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Anyone else off to the show at the Forum tonight with Seth Troxxler/Derrick Carter/Nicky Siano/DJ Pierre?

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 14 June 2013 16:33 (nine years ago) link

ME. (any idea what the set times are? i've got to finish some stuff first but i'd rather not turn up having missed chic.)

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 14 June 2013 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Wondering the same thing myself - sorry I can't be of any use.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 14 June 2013 16:44 (nine years ago) link

My girlfriend is going to this. I am very jealous.

Random .mdb Memories (NotEnough), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:02 (nine years ago) link

Didn't know this was happening :(

high inerja (seandalai), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:09 (nine years ago) link

fyi dwight, it's nicky siano 10 to 11:30, then chic.

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:45 (nine years ago) link

(and seandalai, i'm sure the masses of touts would be happy to accommodate...)

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:47 (nine years ago) link

yeah I say ":(" but going to a post-last-train gig in London would require a bunch of organising and planning

high inerja (seandalai), Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:23 (nine years ago) link

that were fun, unfortunately the sound was muddy as fuck (from where I was at least) but not so much as to viciously diminish it. couldn't get my head in the right place for derrick carter so here i am home before 3am, boring bastard.

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:54 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, the sound wasn't particularly good but fuck me they know how to put on a show...Dance Dance Dance as the second song was audacious, think I nearly blatted when they did Spacer, I was very drunk but I swear they played Le Freak/Good Times for about 15 minutes each and it was incredible, 'Thinking of You' was jawdropping...god, the whole thing was brilliant. I've never had so much fun at a gig before.

Nicky Siano's set wasn't helped by the sound being particularly shocking when he was doing his thing...Young Hearts Run Free playing at that volume was wicked though.

Hung about watching Derrick Carter till just before three; had never seen him before and quite enjoyed how chunky/thick everything he played was.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 15 June 2013 08:13 (nine years ago) link

yeah, Good Times stretched into glorious eternity as I remember it. Thinking of You and Lost in Music were my two peaks I think, and I loved how fucking packed and hot the main floor was too, so much sweaty flesh on sweaty flesh felt just right (though that prolonged sensuous intensity was probably why I didn't have it in me to stick around afterwards).

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 15 June 2013 15:50 (nine years ago) link

We Are Family is aces.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 June 2013 15:56 (nine years ago) link

I took my sister to last night's Forum show, as a birthday treat. She ended up dancing on the stage, while Nile and the band played "Good Times". Result!

mike t-diva, Saturday, 15 June 2013 19:41 (nine years ago) link

Pics or it didn't happen.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 16 June 2013 01:32 (nine years ago) link

Dead centre, directly behind/to the right of the singer at the start of the clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JuBUT9FG4U

mike t-diva, Sunday, 16 June 2013 09:16 (nine years ago) link

Awesome

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 16 June 2013 12:35 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

enjoying nile rodgers interview bbc world hardtalk right now- talking about being bowled over by roxy music's "total immersive artistic experience."

irl sweatpants (Hunt3r), Friday, 8 May 2015 21:21 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

god damn this is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLjyr2Sc3is

cr.ht (crüt), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:14 (four years ago) link

hell yeah

you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:19 (four years ago) link

hot DAMN

http://exclaim.ca/images/chic_3.jpg

piscesx, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:55 (four years ago) link

Nile keeps busy. Out touring the US now

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 June 2018 12:31 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Nile's touring Chic playing Original Sin in Australia in 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgmdbc6rudM

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 10 August 2018 18:57 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Dmitri From Paris remix album finally on Spotify. Holy shit are these good.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:30 (three years ago) link

His "Thinking Of You" remix works consistently very well with my Friday night crowd up the road, but his "Le Freak" has notably lesser impact than the original (and I've tried it several times, bah).

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 16:29 (three years ago) link

fuk yeah!

Lost in music/Saturday 1-2 punch from the chic boxset is all time.

closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 18:06 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

How DO those productions rank?.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2019 01:19 (two years ago) link

The Sister Sledge record is an oddity - three all-time classic singles and then... some other songs

Josefa, Monday, 23 September 2019 01:35 (two years ago) link

I was going to say, don't you mean four classic singles, but then I remembered Thinking Of You wasn't a single until a remix came out in the mid 90s. Overall, I get way more out of Love Somebody Today as a whole album. Also, it has Pretty Baby which is one my favourite Chic related songs ever.

kitchen person, Monday, 23 September 2019 01:50 (two years ago) link

And I totally agree about your assessment Josefa. I've heard that album many times, but I can't remember anything about half of those songs.

kitchen person, Monday, 23 September 2019 01:56 (two years ago) link

I’d ask you to explain how Rod’s Out of Order is in the “Sound, Solid” category but ... I’m not sure I really care enough.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 23 September 2019 03:50 (two years ago) link

Don't forget Rodgers & Edwards' production on King of the World by Sheila & B Devotion, especially 'Spacer'.

In 1980 alone, they produced that album, Love Somebody Today, Real People and Diana.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 23 September 2019 03:51 (two years ago) link

Norma Jean Wright's album from 78 is great too. What an incredible run of albums they had in those first three/four years.

I still think it's one of the world's biggest mysteries why the Debbie Harry sucked so much. On paper it sounds like a dream collaboration. I guess everyone involved was just burned out by then or something?

kitchen person, Monday, 23 September 2019 04:48 (two years ago) link

I read in a Nile interview a while ago that they did nearly no preproduction work and kind of went in expecting they could just wing it.

Siegbran, Monday, 23 September 2019 15:46 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

More like juuuuust prior to the Organisation but:

https://wewantsounds.bandcamp.com/album/missing-you

Wewantsounds is delighted to announce the reissue of Robert Cotter's ultra rare 1976 album, 'Missing You' in partnership with Robert Cotter himself. Originally released on the notorious Tiger Lily imprint, the album was never properly released at the time and most of the copies were supposedly destroyed before they could hit record store shelves. The few copies that survived now command unreasonable prices. The album, recorded in New York between 1975 and 76, is also the only known recording by The Big Apple Band, which Robert Cotter was fronting at the time alongside fellow musicians Nile Rodgers, Bernard Edwards, Tony Thompson and Robert Sabino.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 17:05 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Loved this story - this was in both Stereogum's 80th birthday tribute to McCartney and Uncut's new issue (“McCartney at 80,” May 2022):

"I’ve crossed paths with him many times, but I have to say the most touching one is a silly one. We played President Obama’s final party. I looked out on the dance floor. It was my very first time meeting Paul McCartney, and he was singing every one of my songs. I was thinking, ‘How weird is this.’ The very first song I ever learned how to play on guitar was ‘A Day In The Life,’ and now I’m looking out at the dancefloor and Paul’s got a dance circle with his wife and he’s singing my songs.”

birdistheword, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:24 (one week ago) link

(This was Nile Rodgers being interviewed, of course.)

birdistheword, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:24 (one week ago) link

Music is the key to a summertime experience for pros and amateurs called the DiscOasis in Central Park. Its curator: the funk-disco guru and lifelong skater Nile Rodgers.

Rodgers created the playlists for the performances, which happen throughout the night, interspersed with live D.J.s (the daytime is for more relaxed skating). A longtime New Yorker, Rodgers coined his skate style as a 12- or 13-year-old on a brief sojourn in Los Angeles, when he tore up the town with other kids, performing little routines. “I had this wobbly leg way of skating,” he said. He still does, “even though I’m going to be 70. And it looks cool.”

His crew stood out even then: “We used to skate to jazz,” he said, recalling their grooves to the guitarist Wes Montgomery’s 1965 classic “Bumpin’ on Sunset.”

Fast forward 30 years, and Rodgers had largely hung up his skates. But he has been so energized by his association with the DiscOasis, which approached him for the Los Angeles event, that it reignited his devotion. Now on tour in Europe, he has been conjuring minirinks wherever he goes, one hotel ballroom at a time.

“They lift up the rugs for me and create a big dance floor,” he said. “I can skate in a little square. There’s nobody in there, because I skate at such weird hours — 4 or 5 in the morning.” (He doesn’t sleep much. As befits a disco-era fashion legend, he also has personalized skates — orange, green, iridescent — which got stuck in customs on their way to Europe. His favorite are a classic pair of black Riedells.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/arts/music/discoasis-roller-skating-nile-rodgers.html

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:02 (one week ago) link

Totally get the association of skates w Chic, now that you show me that, thanks.
I got this from the bargain bin long ago, so maybe the minimal price makes me lenient, but always enjoyed Chic's Soup For One soundtrack: they get Carly singing reggae, well kind of, and it's one of the best things I ever heard her do. Also got Teddy Pendergrass, Sister Sledge, not at their best, but effective here, Fonzi Thornton earns the spotlight, the Debbie Harry track works as a change of pace, well kind of, and several fine Chic tracks, incl the long version of "I Need Your Love," same as the 12-inch single, I think though this play list substitutes the 7" edit, but still fine, ditto Nile's acoustic solo guitar "Tavern On The Green":
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC84abHuRA0&list=OLAK5uy_kBWsYtjLrTMXqTLVmCxBqMWxBBqW2okXE

dow, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:19 (one week ago) link

oops--might as well show the cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC84abHuRA0

dow, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:20 (one week ago) link

Yesss, here's the long version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGc3dtxsXFI

dow, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:23 (one week ago) link

Soup for one
When you're on the run

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:39 (one week ago) link

RT @nilerodgers "Thank you ⁦@Celtronic#derry never let’s us down. The people of #Ireland were at the beginning of the rebuilding of our #live #concert #audience, for that I’ll be eternally #grateful - #funky #dance #music #peace #love #goodtimes pic.twitter.com/uVYgLnl5Lu"

— CHIC (@CHICorg) June 26, 2022

dow, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:13 (five days ago) link

RT @nilerodgers "Catch me on @magicfm this Sunday as I do my first of four shows! I’ll be playing you some of my favorite summer songs and talking about my career highlights.

Listen online, via the Magic App or by asking your smart speaker to "Play… pic.twitter.com/CQnIy9Gfec"

— CHIC (@CHICorg) July 1, 2022

dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 22:18 (yesterday) link


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