"My Chemical Romance is this generation's Nirvana"

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She's being willfully controversial, but reading Ultragrrl's recent post on My Chemical Romance and the out-of-touchness of the music press, I can't help but wonder - is there a chance that she's right? That would be embarrassing. I am a 24-year-old writer who I don't think has ever heard a single note of My Chemical Romance. Is this really music that's changing the outlook of a generation?

Much more likely she's totally wrong and a buffoon. But the "if" is bothering me a little. I certainly don't troll MySpace like the kids do, and the favourite bands of my little cousin are Green Day and A Simple Plan. (Of course Green Day was the favourite band of lots of my peers, back in junior high.) So Chemical Romance's impact is not out of the question...

Most music journalists have no clue whatsoever what kids like. They're 35 year old men writing for other 35 year old men who think they're actually writing to 21 year old college kids.

The idea that My Chemical Romance is this generation's Nirvana is ridiculous to them. It's probably ridiculous to most of the people who read this blog, but to the average 16 year old kid, Nirvana is irrelevant in comparison to My Chem.

Don't believe me? Go to myspace. The 3rd most search topic is My Chemical Romance. Myspace is the place where teenagers are hanging out and spending all their time, trying to meet other people like themselves. It's where many people live their life.

I find it incredibly hard to imagine that the average 35 year old rock journo can relate to MCR. But you know, it's not for them to understand or relate to. It's for them to accept, and until they do, they will be absolutely irrelevant to anyone who matters.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

see also:

"I really, really dislike Ultragrrl [edited title - mod]"

sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish I were 8 years younger. MCR would be a fine soundtrack to difficult high school years, I'd have enjoyed it much more than Nirvana in that context. Also, "I'm Not OK" and "Helena" are, to me, better songs than anything Nirvana have done, but that's a minority opinion.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

ha ! this is the funniest article I have read this year / decade !

is this the most moronic statement EVER:

"I find it incredibly hard to imagine that the average 35 year old rock journo can relate to MCR. But you know, it's not for them to understand or relate to. It's for them to accept, and until they do, they will be absolutely irrelevant to anyone who matters."

LMAO

MCR = streaming pile of cliched crap

by the way I am 35 !

When I was teenager I was listening to Big Black, The Pixies, Husker Du and Masters of Puppets

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, we're really impressed, Martian. I suppose we should now get rid of this music that this group of people really like and force them to listen to stuff that they won't. Musical crusades, let's wipe out moshercore and mall-core and spread the gospel.

MCR are GRATE.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't give a toss about myspace mallcore / emo sheep consensus.

I have spotted some smart youngsters on rateyourmusic.com but they are few and far between.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:03 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i'm w/edward on this one. need to go & see if they've got any cheap MCR cdsingles at thee warehouse, ha.

etc, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:03 (thirteen years ago) link

(btw martian, are you a fan of crude/the aesthetics/&c?)

etc, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah they probably are. but big fucking deal, nirvana are bullshit.

When I was teenager I was listening to Big Black, The Pixies, Husker Du and Masters of Puppets

don't see why this is superior to listening to MCR, really.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

never heard of em

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Most music journalists have no clue whatsoever what kids like. They're 35 year old men writing for other 35 year old men who think they're actually writing to 21 year old college kids.

This strikes home because I am a 37 year old person who works in an indie record store on a college campus and writes for two outlets that cater primarily to college-aged human beings so I do feel that I have a clue about what kids that age dig. Mainly because I ask them and observe. This isn't rocket science; I can't believe I am the only one.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

my angst > your angst

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link

(martian - yr sort've thing - here's an article - y'know, post-dead c nz noize)

etc, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link

the only person i know who likes MCR is a 35-year-old mother of two teenage girls. i don't even think her daughters like them that much.

just because "the kids" on "the internet" quite like them, they don't necessarily have any artistic validity. mind you, i always thought nirvana were vastly and enormously over-rated too.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link

hmmmn. the whole cultural shift towards mall-emo or whatever seems interesting & & & um I haven't really stumbled across much writing addressing it. so many teenagers around here wearing eg:

etc, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link

um

etc, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link

let's come back when the music industry have spent the last 10 years chasing the MCR sound after the singer shoots himself in the head and has been deified by youth culture and the media, and we'll see if they're this generation's nirvana.

xp grimy OTM

xxp etc also OTM actually because this is obviously a popular movement, but y'know my parents knew who nirvana were! I doubt MCR have that sort of recognition.

electrogrouse (haitch), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

grimly OTM re: just because "the kids" on "the internet" quite like them, they don't necessarily have any artistic validity is what I meant to put, though I'd say it's more like "just because myspace kids like them doesn't mean they're huge", myspace is just as much as subset of youth culture as anything else, so I don't think you can use what mysapce kids like as the arbiter of what ALL kids like.

electrogrouse (haitch), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't give a toss about myspace mallcore / emo sheep consensus.

Well, why are you offering your own musical youth as a beacon unto the sheep?

They're big on myspace, but they've shifted a lot of units too, so they're popular. I'm a poptimist, and I believe that they are popular with reason.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

haha walking around melbourne & SO MANY EMO SHOPS - toxic, alternative glow, victorian gothic, um . . .

the whole illicit (t-shirt i tried to post upthread), emily strange . . . everyone has a black hoodie these days, don't they? remember that video for that p-m0ney & scr1be goth-hop track where they had the drummer from 8 ft s4tiva (popular metal band) & the guitarist from elem3nop (chart-topping punkpop band) playing!

etc, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:50 (thirteen years ago) link

hmmmn. the whole cultural shift towards mall-emo or whatever seems interesting & & & um I haven't really stumbled across much writing addressing it.

OTM.

FWIW the little of it I've heard repulses me not cos its boring or played out or whatever but because it is so authentically, unfilteredly, painfully, selfishly adolescent.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Tom, are you sure you don't like "I'm Not OK (I Promise)"? It's totally your thing. I mean, you like "Teenage Dirtbag"!

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I'M NOT TRYING TO CAUSE A BIG SEN-SEN-SEN-SSSSSSSSATION...

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno Edward, I think I've only heard "Helena" maybe.

"Teenage Dirtbag" is funny! I guess some of this stuff is funny too. But musically it's structured more round a punchline so the funny-ness is to the fore.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

There's nothing wrong with having no concept of what the youth of today are listening to (I think this is why Word magazine works, to be honest), but when you start playing that "I know what ver kidz are listening to" card, and in your mind Britain's youth all spend six hours a day listening to Bruza, then it becomes an issue.

I would like to see more writing about MCR and FOB and PATD and whoeverthefuck, and less writing about whateverthefuck.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Tom, "I'm Not OK" is fast and hilarious, with a comedy piano bit and some ace screaming. You will adore it. Seriously, it's one of the funniest rock records ever made.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

OK I will d/l.

I looked at the original post and comments - the Nirvana thing is a red herring and actually weakens what she's saying at the same time as the reactions to the N-reference kind of demonstrate it.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

How *important* were Nirvana seen at the time though? Because you look back over old music magazines from 1991, and there's more space given to Jesus Jones than there is to Nirvana.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Nirvana was seen as pretty important at the time, says this person who was 22 in 1991.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever consciously listened to anything by My Chemical Romance.

From a British perspective, Nirvana were only seen as important (onj a wider scale as opposed to a 10-out-of-10 from ET in Melody Maker scale) after they'd been on The Word.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I've only seen the "Helena" video out of the corner of my eye - was it some sort've FatBob does Busby Berkeley affair?

. . . maybe I shld go & have a listen before saying anything else.

etc, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

dom when will you learn that bruza's fans are realer than mcr's: that counts for more than numbers.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

You spelt "Man like Dom" wrong.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Nirvana were seen as important when they played Reading in 1991 and everyone went 'what the fuck was that?'. The mass media never did catch up, except for Francis Wheen.

MCR are huge, just like many of their fans. Who doesn't know this?

snotty moore, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think there's any one big band (or set of) who occupy the lanscape quite like Nirvana and the acts broken in their wake did with Grunge.

The whole emo thing seems like millions of micro acts, and a few commercial pastiches picking up the signifiers on top (MCR).

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I was at Reading '91 and can testify that the act considered far and away the most "important" there by the audience was Carter USM, who were second top of the bill on the Saturday and James might as well not have bothered turning up.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

(x-post)

But that's the thing. Were Tad really any more dominating to the landscape than Something Corporate are now?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

The mass media jumped onto Nirvana a lot quicker, and with more complicit approval than they did with (for example) Rave & House exploding. Where they covered it hugely, but as a *scandalous* thing.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

The landscape re: the media and on the ground (what actually happened) really shouldn't be thought of as representative of each other (Dom and Marcello's point I think).

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, at the time Tad were the media tip for the big act to come out of Sub Pop.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I sense a double meaning there.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I was at Reading '91 and can testify that the act considered far and away the most "important" there by the audience was Carter USM, who were second top of the bill on the Saturday and James might as well not have bothered turning up.

OTM, but that was pre-Nevermind. Compare: Reading '92.

s1.c@rter, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Most importantly, why should music journos necessarily care what 16-year-olds think? And do they really think they're writing for them? My guess is that most are just writing about music that they like and see value in.

Another question is what does "this generation's Nirvana" mean? As someone who felt pretty in touch with the zeitgeist in 1991, left the US a few months before Nirvana broke, and returned a couple of years later and felt completely lost, I find the claim pretty hard to swallow. Beyond whatever quality judgment you may make about Nirvana, they were the poster boys for a huge change in radio and popular tastes.

Following that (Sean is actually younger than ultragrrl, if I read everything correctly) the fact that he (and I for that matter) has never heard a note of MCR suggests that their "historical" role isn't really comparable to Nirvana.

I think it's just using the sacred Nirvana cow -- I guess she doesn't like them -- that makes this controversial. If we picked a slightly different generation for comparison I think we "MCR is this generation's Bon Jovi" and it would be equally true and feel a lot less argumentative.

mitya is really tired of making up names, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Most importantly, why should music journos necessarily care what 16-year-olds think? And do they really think they're writing for them? My guess is that most are just writing about music that they like and see value in.

well, they're paid by either money earned from advertisers who want 16-year-old kids to buy their warez OR by 16-year-old kids buying their magazines. they probably have some commercial considerations in mind beyond "about music that they like and see value in".

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually the funniest part is the 'MySpace searches sez they're popular' claim. That thing she refers to had (or maybe had) been unchanged for months in *all* categories, which likely bears as much comparison to reality as our own statscock. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, MCR rank only 74th at last.fm

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Well, yes, obviously, but the market is larger than just 16-year-olds. Also, presumably, those commercial considerations would actually drive more media coverage (which is not necessarly the same thing as music journalism) of MCR if they were really as popular as Britney et al.

(And maybe I'm just proving that I'm 35 here, but the "commercial considerations" that drive Pitchfork and Stylus, Sean Gramophone and Matthew Fluxblog, Chuck and Xgau, Robert Hilburn and Ann Powers, etc. are very different.)

mitya is really tired of making up names, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i suppose the more subjective answer is that many music hacks still see pop and rock music as essentially 'youth' forms, not without reason, really, and that youth phenomena are important, a sign of the times. probably this is because more music obsessives are teenagers than 35-year-olds.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

"MCR is this generation's Bon Jovi"

Bon Jovi were the Nirvana of hair metal.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I read the linked article, I didn't like it much b/c I don't like the "voice" she writes in, but as far as it went, I didn't think she was totally wrong.

What did occur to me was that, uh, there is this assumption that MCR "mean" s.th. to "this" generation, but when Nirvana were active & Cobain alive, I don't recall them "meaning" anything like that to the equivalent generation back then, though obviously layers of "meaning" have been applied to Nirvana & Cobain in the intervening years. Perhaps.

I've heard MCR on the radio a bit, but I didn't think they were particularly, well, particularly anything, really. Then again, I'm 40 and I like Hawkwind.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

nirvana meant a lot to the sensitive people with curtains in the years above me.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't know who comes off worse here http://www.twitter.com/lukelewis

Lewis should have said "more like My Chemical TOILET" amirite?

Neil S, Friday, 12 November 2010 13:20 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

My Chemical Romance sack drummer for 'stealing'

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Monday, 5 September 2011 15:21 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

that's not new for the dylan tribute alb, it was originally on the watchmen sdtk a couple years ago

some dude, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 00:40 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

thread title otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:40 (one month ago) link

especially in regard to t-shirts

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:41 (one month ago) link

5 years since Hesitant Alien.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:44 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

hmmmmmmmmm

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:23 (two weeks ago) link

Is something happening

Simon H., Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:25 (two weeks ago) link

hard to confirm whether people have actual information or are just leading me on, as if halloween were april fool's day part 2. it's not!!!!

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:27 (two weeks ago) link

(but there are more reunion whispers than usual online)

(i still don't believe it)

(but *x files voice* i want to)

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:28 (two weeks ago) link

"We're coming back together...to back Gerard's cousin Joe Rogan on tour."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:39 (two weeks ago) link

all right, i'm p sure it's happening

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:04 (two weeks ago) link

So joe jonas wasn’t lying huh?

Roz, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:24 (two weeks ago) link

joe jonas never lies

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:25 (two weeks ago) link

Gerard is never gonna release any of last year's solo singles on vinyl is he?

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

At least one official reunion show.

https://pitchfork.com/news/my-chemical-romance-announce-reunion-show/

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:21 (two weeks ago) link

happy halloween to me

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:52 (two weeks ago) link

i'm not ok (i promise)

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:58 (two weeks ago) link

My Chemical Romance is this generations Bullet For My Valentine.

Publicradio (3×5), Thursday, 31 October 2019 20:04 (two weeks ago) link

Doesn't sound like a proper reunion tbh

Simon H., Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:03 (two weeks ago) link

in what way, beyond only one show being announced

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:09 (two weeks ago) link

starting your statement with "My Chemical Romance is done" makes it seem to me there will be no new material forthcoming

Simon H., Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:40 (two weeks ago) link

which tbh is all I care about cause I can't do big/pricey gigs anyway

Simon H., Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:41 (two weeks ago) link

that’s a quote from when they disbanded

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:52 (two weeks ago) link

it’s a confusingly ordered pfork news post tbf

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:52 (two weeks ago) link

Ahhhhh I see. Durrr.

Simon H., Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:54 (two weeks ago) link

the best mcr song is still "summertime"

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 1 November 2019 01:58 (two weeks ago) link

I've been drafting a list of my favourite songs of the 10s and "Summertime" is in the top five.

Tim F, Friday, 1 November 2019 02:01 (two weeks ago) link

i stopped short of calling it the best song ever but......................it is

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 1 November 2019 02:01 (two weeks ago) link

the other best mcr song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQndQV9E8C8

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 1 November 2019 12:18 (two weeks ago) link

i didn't end up voting for three cheers or black parade in the '00s poll because, like, no mcr album is perfect, but the cumulative effect of their work is more powerful than any album

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 1 November 2019 12:34 (two weeks ago) link

I fell asleep right before the announcement yesterday, but it looks like I picked a good year to become an MCR stan. (Always liked them but didn't get heavily into the records until earlier this year and am pretty obsessed now).

My current jam is Destroya! (destroya, destroya, destroya, destroya, ah ah ah ah, ah, ah)

Roz, Friday, 1 November 2019 12:35 (two weeks ago) link

the second half of danger days >>>>>>>>>

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 1 November 2019 12:35 (two weeks ago) link

ya, basically that entire stretch from "S/C/A/R/E/C/R/O/W" to "The Kids of Yesterday" rules

Roz, Friday, 1 November 2019 12:38 (two weeks ago) link

we can leave this world leave it all behind
we can steal this car if your folks don't mind
we can live forever if you've got the time
YOU MOTHERFUCKER
(whoaaaaa)

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

help i've fallen down an MCR youtube hole and can't get out

need to stop myself before I get to the Frerard corner so here's "Summertime" acoustic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGh6xxr7UJI

Roz, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:32 (two weeks ago) link

dreaming of a new album produced by justin meldal-johnson

ufo, Saturday, 2 November 2019 03:00 (two weeks ago) link

judging by the reunion related tiktok activity this post’s inciting statement was otm

maura, Monday, 4 November 2019 04:16 (two weeks ago) link

tried to take a stab at a POX for fun but realized it literally had to be at least a POXV just to scratch the surface. insane density of great songs.

Headfirst for halos
I never told you what I do for a living
You know what they do to guys like us in prison
Hang 'em high
Helena
Teenagers
This is how I disappear
Disenchanted
Kill all your friends
Bulletproof heart
Save yourself, I'll hold them back
s/c/a/r/e/c/r/o/w
Summertime
We don't need another song about california
Make room

Simon H., Monday, 4 November 2019 05:25 (two weeks ago) link

i love how every song on Danger Days sounds completely different from the one preceding it but as an album, is laserlike in concept and execution. really wish i had given them a chance sooner.

Roz, Monday, 4 November 2019 06:09 (two weeks ago) link

The idea that My Chemical Romance is this generation's Nirvana is ridiculous to them. It's probably ridiculous to most of the people who read this blog, but to the average 16 year old kid, Nirvana is irrelevant in comparison to My Chem.

I don’t think it’s that ridiculous to compare My Chemical Romance to Nirvana, but I do think that the notion that Nirvana should be somehow more relevant to a 16 year old in 2006 than My Chemical Romance is. Is the writer expecting music to get stuck in 1993 for the rest of its existence?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 November 2019 06:55 (two weeks ago) link

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The idea that Billie Eilish is this generation's Madonna is ridiculous to them. It's probably ridiculous to most of the people who read this forum, but to the average 16 year old kid, Madonna is irrelevant in comparison to Eilish

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 November 2019 06:59 (two weeks ago) link

In light of last week's announcement, I have been listening to Danger Days and I'm finally coming around on MCR being something more than just the prequel to Gerard Way's solo career. Otoh, I tried getting into I Brought You Bullets and it still reminds me of budget Thrice.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:56 (two weeks ago) link

i brought you my bullets is the worst mcr album easily. it sounds like those were the first eleven songs they wrote together, which iirc was the case

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:56 (two weeks ago) link

three cheers, black parade, and danger days are all differently amazing

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:57 (two weeks ago) link

the only record i can think of that matches three cheers's manic energy is i get wet

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:58 (two weeks ago) link

Also, hey they are headlining the Download Festival next year, which seems like more evidence in favor of "oh wow, I keep forgetting that these guys are fucking huge."

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:59 (two weeks ago) link

I will move on from Bullets and try out Three Cheers again, then. Thanks Brad.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:59 (two weeks ago) link

The lineup for that festival is nuts.

Simon H., Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:23 (two weeks ago) link


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