New Order's worst song wins award

The rap isn't even that bad and I've always liked it, I've never understood why people dislike/mock it so much.

Never got round to hearing the last album because I was so disappointed by 'Krafty'. Been listening to 'Vicious Streak' from 'Get Ready' a lot lately though.

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"YOU WANT BLOODY SHOOTIN'"

But Rod did have the '78 squad singing back-up, even if the Willie Johnstone reference had to be subsequently cut out...

didn't that happen to peter osgood this week?

Ian McCulloch will be gutted to have been erased from that we bit of music history.

And I still think WIM is their worst song. Krafty is great compareed to this (and as the only two NO songs on the video jukebox at our local bowlarama I choose Krafty everytime). And the rap is awful - there may well be worse (hence the question mark) but this is still one of the worst. Despite this, , it is still one of the best football songs ever.

I would say my second least favourite NO is 'State of the Nation'.

MADMAN. (That part on the chorus where the extra synth line kicks in forgives so many of mankind's sins.)

60MPH to thread. and i'm sorry, ned, but SOTN sucks a pretty big dick too.

i'd certainly take "world in motion" over half of the last album and almost all of "get ready".

I don't like Keith Allen, he reminds me of Bill Drummond.

never in a million milennia - every other track on substance is superior, not to mention the early singles

*it can't match the hilarity of "and we'll really shake 'em up/When we win the Wor-ald Cup."

we're OTM there though

It was the coolest World Cup song at the time - from someone who is not exactly NEw Order's biggest fan - and this vote proves it's lost none of that appeal.

It was the soundtrack to the beginning of the end for football and lads as a sub-cultures respectively. After Gazza's tears the mainstream acceptance of football, the looming Sky Sports/Premiership marriage and lots of money for football was going to change it all forever and bring this dirty violent sport to middle classes as a nice neat, sat down package. Plus lad mags would start off spritely as marketing people realised that men bought stuff only to have that quickly reduced to lads like to look at breasts.

I could go on, but essentially in English popular culture World in Motion quite probably represents alot more than a song to many mid to late thirties men who also like football.

This is true and Bernards happy smiling face on the video...ahhhhh....I'm starting to change my mind about the whole thing. I'm so easily led.

SOTN - still crap though.

I like Get Ready though - Crystal, Primitive Notion, Slow Jam, even 60 Miles An Hour - and Here To Stay, which I always associate with that album is one of my favourite song - perhaps i am a madman.

what about rock the shack, though? eh? EH?

a song so bad i'd forgotten it even existed.

However I probably disliked any song in 1990 that wasn't by "The Turtles" so I guess I'd be proved wrong if I heard it today :)

For what it's worth, I love that song to bits. It's got all the ingredients of great New Order songs: silly lyrics, great keyboard sounds, huge crescendo (albeit this time with footballers singing the chorus with Bernard).

yes, it was nearly their worst song in '95, but it wasn't as bad as, say "MTO" or "All Day Long" or half of Movement. '95 just seemed like a good neutral year of New Order downtime, after which nearly every song they released was worse than "World in Motion"

You are daft! After "Regret," it's the best song on the album! Looove the guitar solo.

mmmmMMMMMPH! must ... not ... get ... angry ...

The worst NO song is obviously State of the Nation and NO post-95 is better on average than pre-95, although Rock the Shack (in its album form at least, the 'in session' version being pretty great) definitely ranks amongst their 5 worst tunes.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I'd say that the two last albums are better than Republic and Lowlife, on a par with Brotherhood, PC&L and Movement, and below Technique. Hence, the average

Wow, are half the posters on crack or what?

Steve Mack from That Petrol Emotion has been seen a punk gigs lately in my town. That makes me happy for some reason.

Those new 12" with remixes on are on 3 for £10 offer. Not a huge saving, but worth it if you want the lot, I suppose.

This is my helpful shopping tip for the day.

These crazy words of mine!

"State of the Nation" and the "Sub-Culture" remix are not even close to being the worst New Order songs but this journo is clearly well-versed in popular journalistic opinion of the band that always rates them as such!

Take those two out and throw in any of the tracks from the 'Lost Sirens' collection.

Yeah, 'World in Motion' is pretty dreadful. It definitely deserves a spot on that list.

'World in Motion' has always and will always continue to rule. Sorry, snobs.

World in Motion is a complete joy, especially the rap.

Yes

TS: A-side rap vs B-side rap

https://youtu.be/7N4mIa4NNHk?t=3m13s

"World in Motion" is marvelous.

I'm an American who hates sports so... "World in Motion" is definitely in the top ten worst for me. It's hard to describe how let down I felt the first time I put that 12" on.

I'm an American who hates sports.

Tom Ewing otm: http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/12/englandneworder-world-in-motion/

I mean I've read a lot of impassioned articles about how important this song was and how it was some turning point for the perception of the band. For myself, New Order's combination of inventiveness and portentousness up to that point clouded some of the goofiness that was happening in the lyrics department (which in retrospect should have been obvious to me with songs like "Every Little Counts") and hearing this made them suddenly sound like any other terrible top ten UK pop thing. It was the first chink in the armor before we get to other super lazy pop stuff like "World" all the way through "Superheated". For some I get that this was a celebration of the pop tendencies that were always there but for me this was the beginning of the band getting knocked down from heaven and become just mere mortals. :)

goddamn pop music

uh, the inventiveness and portentousness (I'm not sure what this means but anwyway) required the goofy lyrics!

uh, the inventiveness and portentousness (I'm not sure what this means but anwyway) required the goofy lyrics!

A large part of New Order's greatness is their insouciance. What better way to demarcate what they once were as Joy Division than to write songs with life/knife rhymes?

obv your New Order isn't mine. But I say you're misreading the history of a band who wrote "You caught me at a bad time/So why don't you piss off?" and recorded disco, not a genre known for its portent.

I don't think was by design. That's by the limitations of the artist. :)

There's been several interviews with Saville where he summarizes things quite nicely. He references the NYT article about NO titled 'How Cool is Coldness?', waxes on about the delta between how they were presented and who they actually are, and how 'World in Motion' finally changed that perspective for some.

Anyhow, off topic. Back to worst NO songs!

World in Motion originated from an instrumental Steve and Gillian wrote. The band were not working together at the time. They did it for the money and it required little effort. I just don't even consider this an actual single.

World in Motion originated from an instrumental Steve and Gillian wrote. The band were not working together at the time. They did it for the money and it required little effort. I just don't even consider this an actual single.

That was a remix.

The Making Out mix? I know there were a few around 89-90 that were done for TV by S&G and I'm pretty sure WiM was based on one of those songs.

This is where I say I was wrong that one time eleven years ago.

"State of the Nation" and especially "Sub-Culture (remix)" are two of their BEST songs. I love "World in Motion" as well, but I agree it could be an Other Two single - not a bad thing.