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are an underrated rock band ..... discuss

Sonicred, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I kinda wish they did more of the "25...Tab" stuff, and made their songs more like their intros.. but hey, they don't suck.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

i like them.

ethan, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

like 'em a lot. wish the last record were better--four stars in Blender issue one may have been my personal overcall of the year (it's three stars), but still love Powertrip and esp. "Negasonic Teenage Warhead," one of my fave '90s singles. not so hot live, though

M Matos, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Noisy bastards. A compliment. I remember seeing them open for Swervedriver and Soundgarden in the way the hell back when -- 1992, I think -- and Dave Wyndorf was ranting about being the center of the universe while the whole band did some of that 25...Tab stuff in overdrive. RAWK.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I can imagine 12-year old wannabe guitar gods spontaneously ejaculating on hearing "Space Lord" or "Megasonic Teenage Warhead" but I still think they're damn good.

EdwardO, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Their song and album titles alone make them immortal. "Pill Shovel", "Who Needs Life? I'm High on Drugs!"

Curt, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I like them a bit. How else would I answer, seeing as they named themselves after an FZ song?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

they fucking rock. just bought "spine of god," after 10 years of people telling me i should listen to it. it's great. now to find 25 tab...

your null fame, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

"Spine of God" is simply magnificent. I was told by an ageing New York punk that they didn't actually touch drugs, it was all an image. I think my contact was bitter though...

Braces Tower, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

They're the guys that remade the Mase - Feel So Good video shot for shot, right? If so, they are cool. Mase is also an underrated rapper;

Ramosi, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Fake stoners. Electric Wizard is the real shit.

Bayonet Bulb, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
eh...
I'm still kind of on the fence about these guys.

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

God Says No is the most under-rated album in this under-rated band's clutches. Dig yourself, baby.

the fire god, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm listening to Powertrip right now. It seems to get better towards the middle, hmm.

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

You don't like "Crop Circle," Aaaron? I always thought it was a strong opener.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah that one's good, Stooges sounding even, but there are some bits in between that and "19 Witches" that are kinda draggy and I usually turn the record off before then.

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Monster Magnet = Pentagram with more money and rope to hang themselves. Faux drug references vs. faux Poe/Bierce references. Take yer pick.

Wot's the big deel with Pentagram?

George Smith, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I once worshipped these guys. I love everything up through Dopes To Infinity. "Tab..25" and the last 6 or so minutes of "Black Mastermind" are their most mind-blowing moments. And "Pill Shovel" too.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

George, what's "faux" about them? Because the singer got clean several years ago?

Great band, and the best live rock show I've ever seen.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Their latest album was really good too, but totally ignored. Funny how once A&M lost interest, so did the rock press.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Are they actually similar to Bardo Pond like AMG sez they are?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Stupid Question: Was there ever a version of "Space Lord" that goes "Space lord motherfucker" or was the actual lyric originally supposed to be "Space lord mother, mother"? It always sounded stupid to me, and even dubbed in like they were all "ooh this might get radio play if we censor it..." - some rap albums do that for the intended singles. Just curious.

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think they sound like Bardo Pond. I think that just shows that they are more original than people want to give them credit for. There's definitely more to them than Sabbath meets Hawkwind and I think that Bardo Pond reference just shows how unique Monster Magnet is.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

what's "faux" about them? Because the singer got clean several years ago?

Monster Magnet are a shtick. Pentagram are a shtick. Shtick = a comic scene or vaudeville act. Many people like shtick. I often enjoy shtick. Pick your flavor. In this manner of shtick, mine is Pentagram.

George Smith, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link


the liner notes to an early album (tab, maybe) actually thanked the guy who sold them dope. if that was all image, it was well executed.

dopes to infinity is awesome, top to bottom. "negasonic" should've made 'em famous. it's a shame. but at least you can count on MM for a coupla lines per album that make great metal sludge message board sigs. i prefer "cashing satan's checks with my dick in my hand."

cobra commander (cobra commander), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

actually thanked the guy who sold them dope

Entire cattle cars of stoner bands have hoisted themselves upon this shtick.

George Smith, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Monster Magnet were a *great* band in their heyday. Thats the shtick the other cattle cars never hoisted themsleves upon.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 3 March 2005 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

george smith, you are a schtick.

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with Cobra Commander's comment about how MM lyrics make good sigs. They also make good e-mail message subject lines. I'm partial to "When I don't get my bath, I take it out on the slaves."

John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, of course they're s schtick. What performer isn't?

We could do a whole thread of Wyndorfisms....sigs:

"I need a fistful of medication just to keep it in my pants"

"It's a Satanic drug thing, you wouldn't understand"

"I think I wet my pants doing whippits"

"I'll never trust myself again, but I don't care"

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"i sold a hundred hits
to a hundred heads..."

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'll never make no more complaints, cuz I don't care, uh huh."

the fire god, Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

'bummer' is a fantastic song. i very much prefer the stuff they do that is of the mid-paced variety. slow, groovable hooks all over the shop on 'powertrip'

Charlie Howard, Friday, 5 October 2007 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

saw them on sunday night. dave wyndorf is a huge physical mass now - i was a little bit shocked. he had a guitar strapped on the whole time and barely played it. great show though and a true breath of fresh air. some awesome riffs and the occasional scorching guitar solo for good measure. plus the songs that i knew (mostly from "dopes to infinity' and 'powertrip' really held up).

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link

a huge physical mass now

As in fat or musclebound?

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link

well as the picture shows, he's gotten very fat. he was actually wearing the same kind of hoodie as the one above and while it did a reasonable job of masking the size of his gut, there was little doubt that he's now a very large man.

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link

hes been like that since he came off heroin

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link

apparently a lot of people are fascinated...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/wyndorf_google.gif

c'mon google, dude is in his 50s, cut him a break

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

His Wikipedia entry has an odd table of contents:

* 1 Biography
o 1.1 Early life
o 1.2 First years as a member of Monster Magnet
o 1.3 Short-lived commercial success
o 1.4 Monolithic Baby!
o 1.5 Drug overdose and recovery
o 1.6 4-Way Diablo
* 2 Opinion about drugs
* 3 References

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

holy crap

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, dude was well into his 30s when he founded monster magnet. that's quite a revelation for me. where there's a will...

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

If nothing else this revival is inspiring me to replay Dopes to Infinity.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

had no idea dude was nearing AARP eligibility

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

nearing AARP eligibility, but still having an absolute ball on stage. :)

yeah, i dug out dopes to infinity and gave it a good spin in advance of their show. seems i'd forgotten how much i enjoy it. 'negasonic teenage warhead' proved to be my personal highlight of the show.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

weirdly, im really into this band

butthurt (deej), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link

weirdly, im really into this band

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

"I went to see a heavy metal band in New York ... called Monster Magnet. Man, they were heavy, boy. The lead singer got on the monitor, and he said, "How many of you people feel like human beings tonight?" Then he said, "How many of you feel like animals?" And everyone cheered after the animals part. But the thing is, I cheered after the human being part because I did not know that there was a second part to the question. "Yes, I do feel like a human. I do not feel like a tree."

amarillo fat (jim), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

you can't cover it with your hair
you can't hide it in your army coat
you got the miltown demon stare
you forgot all the letters that you wrote

i love u, monster magnet

Gorgeous Ladies Of Curling (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

watching this right now and it's kinda blowing my mind! :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CpmTYVqe1Ig

Stormy Davis, Monday, 28 May 2012 07:06 (ten years ago) link

I mean, wow, right? that vid is crazy stupid rock dumbshit in a bottle, absolutely amazing!

Stormy Davis, Monday, 28 May 2012 07:13 (ten years ago) link

wow, that starts out like a good cover/version of "spine of god", but by the end, holy shit

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 28 May 2012 07:44 (ten years ago) link

19 years before hanging with marilyn manson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ipU93aDQiw

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 28 May 2012 16:07 (ten years ago) link

awesome, thanks EIII

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 28 May 2012 16:38 (ten years ago) link

lead singer in that clip is Daniel Rey, who produced and co-wrote much of the best late-period Ramones stuff.

how's life, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 11:03 (ten years ago) link

You mean guitarist?

strictly shitty piano rock underground (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 11:16 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, yeah. That's exactly what I meant.

how's life, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 11:19 (ten years ago) link

that scharpling interview is awesome. even if you couldn't give two shits about monster magnet, there's great stuff on the 60s/70s music scene, early NYC punk, the similarities between hawkwind and the ramones, etc. I'm 30 minutes in and they haven't even started talking about monster magnet yet.

kinda weird listening to this thing cuz I grew up around the corner from dave, and I spent a lot of evenings in that exact kitchen having the same convos with him. and y'know I still haven't heard most of these chestnuts, he's a bottomless pit of wry observation and batshit rocklife stories.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:24 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

john mcbain has been throwing up some MM rarities on his soundcloud

http://soundcloud.com/john-mcbain/mm-murder-court-tavern-1991

including the greatness that is CHIGGER

http://soundcloud.com/john-mcbain/chigger-chigger-alive-live-at

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:15 (ten years ago) link

speaking of throw up

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:15 (ten years ago) link

Nice!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:28 (ten years ago) link

high school me can be heard on them donuts are talkin' to me... I'll never tell where tho

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:07 (ten years ago) link

wow, thanks for the heads up, EIII!

contenderizer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:49 (ten years ago) link

np

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:24 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

so, is everything my mm as fucking brilliant as 'monolithic' ?

i cant get enough of this track ..

mark e, Saturday, 9 February 2013 21:07 (nine years ago) link

Pretty much, yeah.

Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Sunday, 10 February 2013 01:51 (nine years ago) link

dave wyndorf was on the best show last week. him talking about going to see suicide is pretty special.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:48 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

new video directed by... tom scharpling?

http://vimeo.com/76112773

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Thursday, 10 October 2013 04:20 (nine years ago) link

He's a big fan!

goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 October 2013 23:44 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that interview he did with Wyndorf was fucking great, too.

What, me infallible? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 11 October 2013 08:26 (nine years ago) link

yeah I know scharpling loves MM, I just missed his whole second career as a video director

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Friday, 11 October 2013 14:00 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

last patrol might be the best one since god says no -- even the bonus tracks are killer

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 November 2013 18:17 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

great bunch of record picks here:
http://thequietus.com/articles/14851-dave-wyndorf-monster-magnet-favourite-albums?page=1

narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:17 (eight years ago) link

great article ..

i have had that blue cheer album on my watch out list for ages ..

(not to mention MM themselves as i clearly need more MM in my life)

mark e, Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:58 (eight years ago) link

Dave really likes that hysterical too-fast vibrato a lot of late 60s lead guitarists use, and I like how it makes him think of insanity.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 27 March 2014 20:46 (eight years ago) link

Oh my god I love Wyndorf. Dude's so enthusiastic about that shit, it's great.

brains hangin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 27 March 2014 22:04 (eight years ago) link

that is an awesome list . . . but where's hawkwind?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 27 March 2014 22:23 (eight years ago) link

Hmm. Maybe he just figured we all know of his deep, undying love for them. Personally I would've replaced Granicus with Hawkwind.

brains hangin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 27 March 2014 22:31 (eight years ago) link

i've listened to that granicus album a bunch and never really got the fuss. love what he has to say about captain beyond though. \m/

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 27 March 2014 22:45 (eight years ago) link

I'm glad someone else wasn't bowled over by it. I'm actually way more partial to the Pandora "Space Amazon" album that had some vague connection to Granicus.

brains hangin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 27 March 2014 23:21 (eight years ago) link

"A lot of the records in this list, I just gave it a try because I liked the cover," the man says about Nuggets. i know what he means; that granicus cover is amazing. four rock bros with flares jamming in the sun! still it just hasn't clicked for me yet, after years of chances. never heard of pandora. what's 'space amazon'? i'd give it a try because i like the name!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 28 March 2014 12:15 (eight years ago) link

It was a glam/hard rock band from NYC 1974 produced by Granicus' drummer, but it really leans towards the HARD side of the spectrum, outside of the vaguely Bowie-esque title track. Which is still pretty hard. They originally did a flexi disc sampler but the full album wasn't released until the 90s on Arf! Arf!

brains hangin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 28 March 2014 12:29 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Stupid Question: Was there ever a version of "Space Lord" that goes "Space lord motherfucker" or was the actual lyric originally supposed to be "Space lord mother, mother"?

got this album a few weeks ago, its fucking immense.

however, tonight while listening on headphones this exact question hit me.

anyone know the answer ?

also, i now have monolithic baby and power trip .. what next ?

mark e, Thursday, 10 July 2014 20:40 (eight years ago) link

Dopes to infinity and spine of god, not necessarily in that order.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 10 July 2014 20:43 (eight years ago) link

:-)

cheers.

just needed a pointer.

fucking brilliant rock and roll band.

mark e, Thursday, 10 July 2014 20:48 (eight years ago) link

god says no is fucking awesome. do yourself a favor

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 11 July 2014 14:27 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Dopes to infinity and spine of god, not necessarily in that order.

not the only person to suggest these additions to the archive.

so in the last 7 days this has become a reality.

summary : f*ck yes !

thank you to those that pushed me to get myself sorted.

(i guess 'god says no' is next on the list .. )

mark e, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:55 (eight years ago) link

\m/

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:11 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Anyone heard Milking the Stars? I actually haven't heard Last Patrol yet but I'm intrigued by the idea of the songs being redone with a "weird 60s vibe."

from the straining pagan waistbands (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 20 November 2014 23:36 (eight years ago) link

me too.

mark e, Thursday, 20 November 2014 23:46 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

So, for the record, I think I dig Milking the Stars a little bit more than Last Patrol. Last Patrol is mixed like what you expect a Monster Magnet album to sound like; MtS definitely has a more expansive, psychedelic quality to it while still having some pretty heavy stuff. Doesn't sound 60s, exactly, but if you dig the early albums idea of psych it's worth checking out.

gamelan ankylosing spondylitis (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 08:29 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

Not quite Monster Magnet but the Acid Reich tapes from 1989 are resurfaced:

https://guerssenrecords.bandcamp.com/album/mistress-of-the-perpetual-harvest

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:30 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Not sure how I missed Ned's last revive, but I definitely need to check that out!

I actually really like both of their full album reworks, both the Milking the Stars redo of Last Patrol and Cobras and Fire: The Mastermind Redux, they both injected the weirdness and unexpected turns that had been missing from their more recent albums. Of course this approach led to the natural conclusion of last year's A Better Dystopia, on which they just straight up tackled a batch of proto-metal and psych-era covers.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:12 (three months ago) link

I think my post 6 yrs ago sounded a little lukewarm but Milking the Stars really stands out as a late peak to me, easily beats out Last Patrol, great stuff and he even rewrote some of the lyrics for the better.

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 August 2022 09:48 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

hard to beat the original, but any unearthing of "Tab" is always a good thing.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 06:39 (three weeks ago) link

you know about this cassette from 1989 (unless it isn't, things aren't very clear) too? https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=41958

StanM, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:57 (three weeks ago) link

I need to check out that new demo version, wish this wasn't a vinyl only thing tbh.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:09 (three weeks ago) link

It isn't. It's on Bandcamp digitally too.

https://godunknownrecords.bandcamp.com/album/test-patterns-vol-1

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:27 (three weeks ago) link

Oh, thanks! Was misinformed by the announcement I read that said it was vinyl only. Thought it might have been released on Napalm, where their recent stuff has been released and only checked their bandcamp page.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:31 (three weeks ago) link


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