pitchfork

*waves at richard beck*

hey guys let's really clusterfuck this thread up and maybe get Beck in here and then this could form the intro for a future article about ilx conversations about n+1 articles about ilx conversations about provocative p4k comments about village voice polls!!!

They've published loads of great criticism. I'm glad they exist. Beck does really good and ambitious work with the piece! It's just that a lot of the ideas he's coming at, in such authoritative depth, are pretty much the same as the obvious, lazy, weird, or knee-jerk ideas you get from the superior dude in the comments box. They're operating at a higher intellect level, perhaps, but they make the same blind assumptions.

I literally can't fathom the obscene lack of self-awareness it would take for someone to turn in a piece of print writing with the word "ILX" in it.

whiney did you go the symposium they had about h1psters last year??

i guess this isn't gonna be like the time EW wrote about ILX

xpost,

i didn't know about it (omg so unhip), but i read the book and, inside, one of my friends was there (no suzy) and asked a question based on one of my familiar talking points. so I was there in spirit.

I was gonna question you on that, Whiney, but Kelefa's rockism piece had the URL wrong, so it never actually said "ILX"

One important thing I should mention about the full piece: it actually winds up making the case that Pitchfork is not so much a problem as just a reflection of a bigger problem with indie-rock. And this isn't something all that many people would take issue with, but it drifts into question-begging, vagueness, and stock skepticism at exactly the wrong moment...

someone put this shit on a pdf because there's no way on earth i would sleep at night if i gave n+1 a single nickel to read an review of pitchfork

hahahaha

I just got a pdf. I'm blindly skimming through the fascinating-looking Juggalo article

"She lit a menthol and took a swig from her son's Faygo"

"Sometimes I got pushed into the hydrangea bushes and called white boy."

"Our senior class song was “Tipsy” by J-Kwon."

"I ate a few chocolate Luna bars, soft and fecal-looking in the heat; immediately regretted it."

gonna just blindly past shit from this Pfork article in quotes

And on John Coltrane, recorded live at the Village
Vanguard: “’Trane takes it to heaven and back with some style, man. Some richness, daddy. It’s a sad thing his life was cut short by them jaws o’ death.”

Faced with an album this new and this great, DiCrescenzo paid it the highest compliment he could think of: he made a list of Radiohead's influences.

where promoters like Todd Patrick—bet- ter known as Todd P—had begun to orga- nize DIY concerts

whiney cmon

i can't imagine anyone who would care at all about this not knowing every single fact Beck presents

pretty good example of this kind of indie rock fan is me. In the two years since I graduated from college, I’ve had a pretty good time being “broke” in New York and drinking “cheap” beer with my friends. But sometimes I remind myself that the beer I’m drinking is not actually cheap, and that furthermore I am not actually broke: if I married someone who made the same sal- ary I make, our household income would be slightly above the national median, which is also true of almost every person I spend my free time with.

But the story of The Beatles doesn’t begin with John, Paul, George, and Ringo deplaning at JFK. It begins with Jean-Philippe Rameau’s 1722 Treatise on Harmony, which began to theo- rize the tonal system that still furnishes the building blocks for almost all pop music.

wait the dude that wrote this is only two years out of college?

guys call an ambulance, i smh'd so hard i think i broke something

lol

has anyone written a thorough history feature of pfork yet? it seems like that'd be a better way of 'taking down' both the corny indie fuxxor 'stylised' pfork of dicrescenzo/bowers heyday and the dull consumer guide choking on our legacy pfork of today. it would also allow a writer to acknowledge that the pfork of ten years ago only barely resembles the pfork of five years ago barely resembles the pfork of today. why/how/when it surpassed cmj, spin, whether a conscious decision was made to turn away from unrepentant rockism and how, gossip, whether it still really does have the impact it had a few years ago, etc.

no because its a thing that 2 million ppl read but only like 2,000 people really care about

no genre’s fans are more vulnerable to music criticism than the educated, culturally anxious young people who pay close attention to indie rock.

how does this article not have the part about hipinion sneaking into the pitchfork servers?

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I used to read pitchfork in the mornings like 3 years ago and haven't really read it w/ any regularity since

like maybe once in a couple months when I'm bored and want to laugh at something for a minute

One year later, in a review of The Roots’ Things Fall Apart, Samir Khan congratulated the group on featuring
“an intelligent rapper.”

the pre-internet-era film High Fidelity.

Matt LeMay, who still works for the site as a senior contributor, put up a picture of a cactus instead of his face

“[Our writers] genuinely care about music,” the pitch read, “unlike some of the big time playaz that’re just in the business for the bling bling.”

Nirvana, a three-man band out of Aberdeen, Washington

*sigh*

spill it, lamp

Groups like Sebadoh and The Mountain Goats began recording on cheap, low-fidelity equipment (think: a boombox)

think: abt it

i think more than 2000 ppl definitely used to care about it at one point at least, the first person i ever heard about pfork from was kevin barnes lol and he DEFINITELY cares about pfork and i can remember when i still worked at wuxtry this record store in town that the only thing that was guaranteed to move volume like a pfork rave was an npr feature, i can remember customers telling me they had pfork as their homepage (and me probably telling them 'you should read the wire' lol) and i can remember if i went to the computers in the uga library guaranteed if you looked at user history someone in the past hour had looked at either pitchfork or the jamband database and i definitely remember this pfork review or that pfork review being the subject of conversation. i'm sure this is more a reflection of me being older, etc (god knows) but that john maus interview was the first thing on pfork i can remember ppl irl talking about (beyond liking yr usual nabisco or tom ewing column on facebook) since the black kids review (which for pfork's demo is a generation ago), even here nobody pretends anyone actually reads the reviews (smart move by pfork keeping the score after the jump).

you're talking about reading it, i'm taking about "actually gives a dribbling shit about its inner workings and politics" which is reserved for mischpusha, hipinion, ilx and a few people in bands

if the movie to be made out of new republic gossip and a huge bestselling book (and apparently potential movie) to be made out of espn gossip i guarantee you there's a magazine feature to be made out of pfork gossip, esp since there's apparently mutliple thinkpieces and a potential mumblecore movie to be made out of 'what does pfork signify???'.

guh typos galore, going to bed

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let's not forget that scott's charming little freakout on here was reported in the daily swarm and a whole bunch of places, so i'm guessing richard beck just saw that and doesn't, like, regularly lurk here (although he might be reading right now, hi boo!)

So all you have to do is say "I want a PDF of the article" and one will magically appear in your inbox?

welcome to web 3.0

I want a magical pony and candy for the rest of my life. Via PDF.

FWD: MyLittlePony_Candy_Catalog.pdf