In the other corner, we have Metacritic which comes up with ratings for reviews from an A-List of notable media outlets to decide an album's relative worth.
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link
― Abu Hamster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Rate Your Music
1 Sufjan Stevens Illinois2 Thelonious Monk Thelonious Monk Quartet With John Coltrane At Carnegie Hall3 Opeth Ghost Reveries4 Wilco Kicking Television: Live in Chicago5 Kraftwerk Minimum - Maximum6 Riverside Second Life Syndrome7 Nevermore This Godless Endeavor8 Kamelot The Black Halo9 Sigur Rós Takk...10 Porcupine Tree Deadwing11 Andrew Bird Andrew Bird & The Mysterious Production of Eggs12 Kate Bush Aerial13 Strapping Young Lad Alien14 Trivium Ascendancy15 Jesu Jesu16 Pat Metheny The Way Up17 Coil The Ape of Naples18 The Mars Volta Frances the Mute19 The Decemberists Picaresque20 Animal Collective Feels21 System of a Down Mezmerize22 Wolf Parade Apologies to the Queen Mary23 Iron Maiden Death on the Road24 Antony and the Johnsons I Am a Bird Now25 Dark Tranquillity Character26 Dane Cook Retaliation27 Nile Annihilation of the Wicked28 My Morning Jacket Z29 The New Pornographers Twin Cinema30 Bright Eyes I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
1 Illinois by Sufjan Stevens2 Z by My Morning Jacket3 Wearemonster by Isolée4 Hypermagic Mountain by Lightning Bolt5 The Woods by Sleater-Kinney6 I Am A Bird Now by Antony And The Johnsons7 Arular by M.I.A.8 Minimum-Maximum [Live] by Kraftwerk9 Thunder, Lightning, Strike by The Go! Team10 LCD Soundsystem by LCD Soundsystem11 Black Sheep Boy by Okkervil River12 Chavez Ravine by Ry Cooder13 The Mysterious Production Of Eggs by Andrew Bird14 I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning by Bright Eyes15 Blinking Lights And Other Revelations by Eels16 Separation Sunday by The Hold Steady17 Mezmerize by System Of A Down18 Beauty And The Beat by Edan19 Twin Cinema by The New Pornographers20 Oh You're So Silent Jens by Jens Lekman21 Oceans Apart by The Go-Betweens22 Kicking Television: Live In Chicago by Wilco23 Late Registration by Kanye West24 This Right Here Is Buck 65 by Buck 6525 Lookaftering by Vashti Bunyan26 These Were The Earlies by The Earlies27 Takk... by Sigur Rós28 Lost And Safe by The Books29 Feels by Animal Collective30 Gimme Fiction by Spoon
Pazz & Jop
1 West, Kanye Late Registration2 M.I.A. Arular3 Stevens, Sufjan Illinois4 Sleater-Kinney The Woods5 Apple, Fiona Extraordinary Machine6 White Stripes, The Get Behind Me Satan7 Antony and the Johnsons I Am a Bird Now8 Hold Steady, The Separation Sunday9 New Pornographers, The Twin Cinema10 My Morning Jacket Z11 LCD Soundsystem LCD Soundsystem12 Monk Quartet, Thelonious with Coltrane, John Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane at Carnegie Hall13 Amadou & Mariam Dimanche a Bamako14 Spoon Gimme Fiction15 Common Be16 Bright Eyes I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning17 Beck Guero18 Bloc Party Silent Alarm19 Go! Team, The Thunder, Lightning, Strike20 LaVette, Bettye I've Got My Own Hell to Raise21 Gorillaz Demon Days22 Animal Collective Feels23 Art Brut Bang Bang Rock & Roll24 Konono No. 1 Congotronics25 Bush, Kate Aerial26 Franz Ferdinand You Could Have It So Much Better27 Legend, John Get Lifted28 Wolf Parade Apologies to the Queen Mary29 Mountain Goats, The The Sunset Tree30 System of a Down Mezmerize
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link
1. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois 2. M.I.A. - Arular 3. Antony and The Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now 4. Kanye West - Late Registration 5. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm 6. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem 7. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake It's Morning 8. Franz Ferdinand - You Could Have It So Much Better 9. My Morning Jacket - Listen10. The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema11. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods12. Gorillaz - Demon Days13. The White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan14. Animal Collective - Feels15. Spoon - Gimme Fiction16. Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary17. Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll18. Common - Be19. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Clap Your Hands Say Yeah20. Maximo Park - A Certain Trigger21. Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine22. Sigur Ros - Takk23. The Magic Numbers - The Magic Numbers24. The Decemberists - Picaresque25. The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday26. Andrew Bird - Andrew Bird & the Mysterious Production of Eggs27. Broken Social Scene - Broken Social Scene28. Kaiser Chiefs - Employment29. Isolee - We Are Monster30. System of a Down - Mezmerize
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link
How has your own music taste affected the result of the compiled lists?
Not at all. So please don't blame me for the omission of Judas Priest's "Sad Wings of Destiny".
Anyone who likes that disc is okay by me!
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
― bobby.lasers (bobby.lasers), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't want to ask, really I don't, it's just that I feel this strange uncontrollable urge that I'm powerless to resist....
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I think he's flabbergasted that an album by a comedian (i.e. no music) made a list. Which makes him a musicist, apparently...
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K. (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Aaaaah, now that would explain things.
Like why I'd never 'eard of 'im before.
"Which makes him a musicist, apparently..."
Are you sure he's not a comedist?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
― M. Biondi, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
It's true. Metacritic also has blind spots with respect to hard rock, classic rock and metal in general. And they often assign numerical scores which have no correlation with the actual review. I used to laugh when my stuff would get sampled and was clearly a serious putdown or shredding would get a mediocre number in the yellow. I'm betting that happens systematically with many others which were sampled. It's better suited to aggregation of movies since the job is a lot less intensive.
As for the rest, no experience, not interested to make cost effective.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Rewind: Music from 10, 20, and 30 Years Ago This MonthAs we did in October, September, August, June and July, we look back at key albums released 10, 20, and 30 years ago this month. This month, we remember November 2000, November 1990, and November 1980.Albums from November 2000Key Release:The Sophtware Slump 81by Grandaddy
As we did in October, September, August, June and July, we look back at key albums released 10, 20, and 30 years ago this month. This month, we remember November 2000, November 1990, and November 1980.
Albums from November 2000
Key Release:The Sophtware Slump 81by Grandaddy
THE SOPHTWARE SLUMP
― ilxor, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 03:13 (eight years ago) link
K, so, Metacritic. I've been wondering at the way the critics' ratings of music are nearly all green ("universal acclaim") with a very few yellow ("mixed") ratings and virtually no red. Whereas the movies seem to have more of a bell curve. Is it that movies are easier to criticize without chalking it up to personal taste, or is all this new music just AWSSUM?
― Has talent, needs to figure out how to improve (staggerlee), Thursday, 14 November 2013 02:12 (six years ago) link
music is harder to fuck up than movies
― imago, Thursday, 14 November 2013 02:17 (six years ago) link
Sick Mouthy wrote a pretty great blog post taking off from the very same observation.
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 November 2013 05:13 (six years ago) link
great post. he mentions that the "criticism-topography" of video game criticism also differs from that of music and film, although he doesn't go into more detail. the reality of that situation is that the vast majority of reviews of video games is what metacritic would call "generally positive," with a smaller number of games receiving a mild reception and an astonishingly small number of them being received outright poorly. about a month ago tevis thompson wrote an excellent piece about this, if anyone happens to be interested in how this phenonemon plays into newer forms of media criticism.
― dyl, Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:57 (six years ago) link
How many media outlets does Metacritic go to for music?
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:48 (six years ago) link
Have we done pizza vs curry?
― how's life, Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:21 (six years ago) link
Mod response to an image upload I just did: "Your square image is not the correct shape for a digipak which is more rectangular by design."
This fuckin site, man
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 00:45 (nine months ago) link
"I tried to join the diarrhea drinkers club but they told me the amount of corn in my cup actually made it closer to poop"
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 January 2019 01:02 (nine months ago) link
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 01:03 (nine months ago) link
at least i'm not uploading to genius huh
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 January 2019 01:10 (nine months ago) link
"This will have to wait until a proper scan of the digipak artwork can be uploaded."
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 01:21 (nine months ago) link
"Hi, I do understand your frustration, but we really do want to be as accurate as possible. Imagine you went to the zoo and the lion enclosure was full of leopards. You mention it to the zoo keeper and he says "well, they're both cats, near enough". It's not really satisfactory when the goal is to present accurate information."
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 07:05 (nine months ago) link
This is, to be clear, about an image being 'too square' to be a CD cover
the petty shits have revoked my upload privileges, lol
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 07:45 (nine months ago) link
have swallowed my pride and sent a feedback form explaining and apologising for what i did wrong, and asking ever so nicely if i can be allowed to upload again. let's see what they have in store. probably a site ban
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 07:50 (nine months ago) link
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 18 January 2019 08:20 (nine months ago) link
post the image here so we can rightfully shame it
― ufo, Friday, 18 January 2019 08:30 (nine months ago) link
if you look closely, you will notice that this is a leopard, rather than a lion
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 08:39 (nine months ago) link
What you have to understand, imago, is that RYM always had an inferiority complex relative to discogs. In the early days, serious music fans would pick on RYM for laughable mistakes, inconsistencies, missing information and the likes. It got to them, RYM was like: "our survival is at stake".I limit my contributions to adding singles from itunes and suggesting merges, and some of the time I don't even bother about adding a random digital single cover for an entry that will be rated by 5 people in the next 8 years.
― Nabozo, Friday, 18 January 2019 09:45 (nine months ago) link
Have you ever seen Wiki edits talk pages ? Contributing there is probably making the Devil go pale and embarrassed. And yet what a beautiful internet creation... you need the devil you see (sorry, I've just read Doctor Faustus)
― Nabozo, Friday, 18 January 2019 09:48 (nine months ago) link
See this is why I only add primarily digital releases if any
― don't let's be beastly to the gammons (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 18 January 2019 10:51 (nine months ago) link
I don't use RYM for classical music at all because their catalogue is glaringly incomplete and manually adding each work, which requires that you post the details to a specific subforum where it will take at least 24h for your submission to be approved by Cerberus-like mods – not to mention the fact that the performers' entries are routinely lacking as well – is a full-time unpaid internship. For non-classical music, however, I've never had much trouble adding new bands/releases/album covers, perhaps because they were all on Bandcamp.
― pomenitul, Friday, 18 January 2019 11:19 (nine months ago) link
yeah that's what I did here, but the image from Bandcamp - the only image online, pretty much - was the 'wrong shape', I despair tbh
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 11:34 (nine months ago) link
I suppose you can save it to your computer and resize it before uploading it right back. I've had to do that before, now that I think of it.
― pomenitul, Friday, 18 January 2019 11:43 (nine months ago) link
all sorted now thankfully - key to my restored privileges being my politeness and calm, apologetic response. 2007 LJ is looking on at me in envy
and yeah I do understand the need for a precise database. there is an element of preserving history to all this which I get
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 15:00 (nine months ago) link
even so that sounds awfully pedantic. like I've added tracklistings and times to albums and had them held up because I put I "owned" the release which meant I had a CD with a catalogue # and label and they wouldn't approve until I had that, when the reality is I lost the CD long ago
that said as a general resource I think RYM is pretty nice - I've discovered a lot of great stuff through there
― frogbs, Friday, 18 January 2019 15:11 (nine months ago) link
well yeah it's absolutely key to my listening habits
― imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 15:12 (nine months ago) link
on consideration i am impressed at how much rym has improved over the past decade, especially considering the constant influx of 4chan users. to deal with that while consistently improving the quality of the reviews and the ratings is an accomplishment imo. i think the comparison to wikipedia is a good one, but unlike wikipedia rym doesn't have the "npov" fig leaf. adapting the wikipedia model to a site that is pretty much nothing _but_ subjective opinions... again, an accomplishment imo.
― The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:13 (nine months ago) link
IMDB is pretty much the model here I guess.
― Siegbran, Friday, 18 January 2019 17:00 (nine months ago) link
Just discovered this 'Best of Rate Your Music' twitter & am loving it:
pic.twitter.com/0MtnqR1UCA— Best of RateYourMusic (@Rateyrmusic) April 27, 2019
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:02 (six months ago) link
*nervously scans twitter feed*
might have a few good review submissions for there, notably
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:11 (six months ago) link
also this which I suspect might be too *good* for that feed
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:12 (six months ago) link
lol those are all incredible
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 23:02 (six months ago) link
Yeah one of my first thoughts was “please don’t let me be on this feed”, but I don’t think I posted any true fuckwittery during my brief affair with RYM long ago
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 23:09 (six months ago) link
off the current topic but i enjoy being an asshole in the album comment boxes rym added a few years ago
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 23:11 (six months ago) link
yeah i have tons of shitty rym meme reviews from when i was old enough that i should have known better. i'm very grateful because some mods are going through and "unpublishing" all of them so unless you're my friend there you won't know what a bozo i was
nowadays of course i'm much better and write essays analyzing old genesis bootlegs from a trans perspective
rym comment boxes are one step above youtube comments and should go away but i occasionally post the shit that would've gone in my meme reviews there
my real vice is the message boards, which is 90% teenage canon-builders talking about which radiohead record is best and 10% people recommending serbian punk records nobody outside of serbia has ever heard of, i love this board but it alone can't feed my jones
― Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 May 2019 00:18 (six months ago) link
hah yeah I've had a number of my reviews 'unpublished', including a lot of my best ones
I understand why the comment boxes are there, it's kind of nice that every album gets its own discussion thread now, and it keeps a lot of the shit out of the reviews. wish they were a bit more interactive though
yeah see this is why I love RYM actually
― frogbs, Thursday, 2 May 2019 13:10 (six months ago) link
i've had some of my most _popular_ reviews unpublished. initially i was a little put out by it, but in the long run it does make the site better, because back when they would host any old shit the stuff that got "liked" most were the dumb joke reviews rather than anything that had any kind of actual thought or effort put into it. not only is "publishing any old shit" a really bad idea for an internet site in 2019, but establishing some sort of editorial control goes a long way towards making the site better
nowadays the stuff that gets "liked" the most are long lists of random records three people have heard, and i'm ok with that, except insofar as we tend to "like" the lists without actually listening to any of the records
the other thing i find really interesting, because it's as far as i can tell deliberately obscure, is that they do have some fairly advanced anti-brigading features in their ranking algorithms. it's complicated, but in practical terms it seems like basically only ratings between 2.5 and 4 are counted towards the overall score of a record
― Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:35 (six months ago) link
that twitter feed accepted my Hulk Hogan suggestion and found...so much more
― frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 19:31 (six months ago) link
The guitar riffs here are some of the coolest I've heard. I spent a whole summer smoking pot in my parents garage learning to play this album on the guitar and I would be a shitty person if I had not done that. You'd probably agree that you are lame compared to me, while reading this. I'd agree, and then add that Possessed should thank me for writing this review. You're welcome!
this five star review of possessed's seven churches is easily the best thing i've ever read on rym and one of the greatest pieces of music writing of all time
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 20:05 (five months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/0GMbUMqkkW— Best of RateYourMusic (@Rateyrmusic) May 19, 2019
that LOL in the end kills me
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 20:20 (five months ago) link
Fine melodic rock album. Well done, Alias guys. I am an AOR lover and a grunge hater. Unfortunately, no one can change a history, I mean a lot of great bands were blown away in 90s by the ugly form of music as grunge is. Well, it happened with the band of question. Alias debut offering the almost perfect AOR material with the strong Curci's vocals as the distinctive feature. To be quite honest, tracks of second half of the release are not so great as the first part, so I can give them about 3,75 stars.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 13:41 (five months ago) link
letmetrythisname 09 Aug 2017 02:37 GMTMambo No. 0.5
Mambo No. 0.5
― frogbs, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 21:41 (five months ago) link
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I’m sure people have listened to the stuff they rate on Rate Your Music
― brimstead, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:01 (four months ago) link
a horrible website
― dyl, Sunday, 7 July 2019 22:00 (four months ago) link
RYM's ratings and forums are dominated by metal fans and pompous The Wire readers. Bit I still like the lists thing, the ones made by single users not generated from ratings.
And filtering down to single genres, even the ratings lists are useful. For instance they have helped me disover some nice 2000s synthpop gems. Johan Bäckström, for instance.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:05 (four months ago) link
And not just metal fans, the worst kind: progressive metal fans.
But yes the genre charts are absolutely fantastic for discovering new (old) stuff, infinitely better than any Spotify AI suggestion algorithm.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:39 (four months ago) link