Psychic Ills - Dins

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complete fucking radio silence on Psychic Ills..

thought I'd hold off on starting a thread last year, figured someone else would cheerlead on ILM by now, seeing as their full length Dins has been released. Still nothing, and nary a review on Pfork.

Has anyone caught their live act recently? Any thoughts on Dins?

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Saw em live a while ago, but not recently.. would like to hear the record, though. LP/CD? Label?

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Thee Social Reg
I forgot to pick it up yesterday

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

just figured the 'Fork and Stylus would be all over these guys, as both camps seem to be real into the Social Registry stable.

EmPeeFree's here

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmm, gotta get myself one of those. i've seen them a few times. most of those instances have been excellent. they do things with the noisey, freaky rock music that i want to hear/see.

bb (bbrz), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

it's a nice record, little bit of a shoegazy krautvibe to it

rizzx (Rizz), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I might be seeing them in a few days. Dins is pretty excellent, especially the sixth and eighth songs. Forget the names, but they kinda sound like Can with Loveless's production, or something.

ample parking (Garrett Martin), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

When this record is good, it's really pretty good; when it's not, it really bores me. I saw them a couple weeks ago and liked the live show pretty well; the swampy sorcerer nonsense is sorta easier to handle when you're watching people onstage. I still feel like this band has room to get a lot better, y'know?

mike powell (mike powell), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah definately, it all sounds promising without actually delivering. except for a few moments when they get into that zone

rizzx (Rizz), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Mike Powell is OTM.

I think some of the disc is pretty cool but not mind-bending. But when it's not so hot, it's a bit listless and rather derivative (but derivative of stuff I LOVE: Floyd, Spacemen 3, Loveless, Confusion is Sex, etc.) And hopefully, they will develop more of their own sound in the future but coming from New York means they might just become really good and retro-styled mixing-n-matching. Who knows? I would like to smoke a joint and see them live.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah definately, it all sounds promising without actually delivering. except for a few moments when they get into that zone

Which is actually, like, five other bands' zones cut into patches and quilted together. Which is, you know, fine. I actually really like how they blend their influences; Spacemen 3 weren't as rhythmic as they are, Can wasn't as caveman clunky about it, and there's something sort of "darker" or more shadowed about Dins that sounds appealing. Still, can be a smokescreen sometimes.

mike powell (mike powell), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd have to listen to the whole thing again to absorb it like that. Which I won't cos that new Magik Markers record is sitting right on my face every minute I can spare

your description does make a lot of sense though

rizzx (Rizz), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

sitting right on my face

awesome image.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i think namedropping Spaceman 3 or MBV in regards to psych/drone bands is rather cliched by now. not that those aren't the first affinities that pop into my mind. i guess it's a mixed blessing for them PR wise.

i'm curious why all the critics are falling over themselves for the entirely derivative Serena Maneesh but not giving Psychic Ills any copy, good or bad. Is it because of that "i've heard this before, but not sure where" quality mentioned upthread?

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 16 February 2006 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I think namedropping Spaceman 3 or MBV in regards to psych/drone bands is rather cliched by now.

I agree if you are talking about psych/drone stuff that is an obvious progression past those influences and whoever is using those references is just being lazy. However, in this case, I think anyyone here (myself included) who name drops 80s shoegazer stuff is pretty on the mark. Dins, in my opinion is decent, but it is not a radical break from or evolution past its quite apparent influences. For example, when Flying Saucer Attack appeared on the scene, it seemed like they were influenced by shoegazer stuff, but they were also so totally amazing and unique that they were their own thing. Dins, on the other hand, is NOT this.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 16 February 2006 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

great accidental dance band

Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure that it's accidental!

mike powell (mike powell), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

the album seems a bit samey when finished...i couldn't really remember anything that had happened or any reason to really give it another shot...

seems like it could potentially be good live....i guess maybe cuz the recording sounded live-ish....i'll give it another shot....

bobby.lasers (bobby.lasers), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link

of course it is

dance w/o "dance" signifiers, though obv i'd like to keep this convo more ethereal less definitive before i get ronan'd or finney'd or selzer'd et al.'d

Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

like the band live [one of my highlights at sxsw 2005], havent heard the record yet.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

it's really not 80s shoegaze though, it's much more percussion driven

rizzx (Rizz), Thursday, 16 February 2006 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link

huh? you can dance to whatever you like man.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 16 February 2006 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i used to agree about the boring moments in Dins, but after listening to the record a few more times, i only find the last track ("Another Day Another Night") overwhelmingly boring. the rest of it is kind of sweet, especially the drone numbers.

also, i feel that i need to be in the mood to hear the guy's voice for 30 or so minutes-- it detracts and repels at the same time.

trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 16 February 2006 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I listened to this record today for the first time and it really just hit me. I love the gauzy fuzz and the bass lines, love the way the vox are mixed, love repetitive Can rhythms. It's very listenable. A lot of the comments on this thread are otm. Although 'boring' didn't come to mind for me, the songs just kind of segued along before I knew it I was up to song #8. Moments are quite catchy (those bass lines). I will enjoy this again.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, the reason this record passed me by is the complete lack of attention by ilm ref'd in the first post. ilm do better!

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I Like this band a lot! I saw them open for Ariel Pink, and then went to another show a few weeks later just b/c I knew they were opening again for a different band.

Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Thursday, 11 May 2006 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link

We saw them in Austin in 2005 and we really liked them - the album is good too, but maybe I would have preferred a different approach to it, a little bit darker and garagey.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 11 May 2006 06:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't want to kill the conversation, but i'm gonna pull a dj martian right now with my mastery of google:

wrapping up their spring tour
myspace page
pitchfork did finally review Dins
prefix magazine Dins review
stylus Dins review (interesting, stylus now has band/album URLs much like pfork)
nick sylvester on the band
teh blogs

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry, bad HTML. the NS still exists at:

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

cee bee otm, i did the same exact thing. they put on a great live show, but i admit i've never listened to the album.

killy (baby lenin pin), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait....Killy, were you wearing a Baby Lenin pin at the show??

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Track 3 of Dins reminds me of Lard Free's awe-inspiring "Spirale Malax." Believe me, that rarely happens.
The last track sounds like Spiritualized if they'd been around in 1969, and therefore is transcendent.

brettino's bounce, Friday, 12 May 2006 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I like what i've heard of them.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

xxpost - yes, chris. were you the guy that looked like a little elf?

killy (baby lenin pin), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Nobody liked Mirror Eye? I'm mixed on it myself. Quite different from Dins, not all in a good way to my mind--no blowout epics, for one. The arrangements seem too skeletal to be as atmospheric as they'd like to come across. Some of the tunes sound as if they just needed some more development. In a way it sounds like they just released some of their demos.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 12 March 2009 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

I hadn't realized they had a new one coming out, but boy that Pfork review doesn't make it sound worth tracking down in the least. Anyone able to offer up a differing opinion? That doesn't sound a direction I'd wanted these dudes to take at all.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 28 October 2011 13:24 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

They played an excellent set last night. Not sold on the new record, but they're in fine form as a live entity.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:44 (seven years ago) link

I haven't really been sold on anything they've done in a while but still feel compelled to listen to each new one as it comes out. Really wanted to like Hazed Dream but to me it just sounds like they're doing versions of "Come Down Easy" and "Call the Doctor" over and over. The new one has a little more variety but I dunno. They're just not that great I guess.

dmr, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:50 (seven years ago) link

I'd see them live again anytime, but I have no compulsion to listen to anything they've recorded of late. It's a shame how tepid the last few records are when the live show is so good.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:03 (seven years ago) link

ok, EZ, i want to like this band (liked some of their previous stuff) but also find the new one a little tepid.

but, i also would love to be convinced to make a short drive to go see them (and Follakzoid and Kinski) in a couple weeks. i am on the fence about this.

so ... how/why is the live show so much better than the tepid new album? would be very interested to hear if/when you have a second.

alpine static, Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:26 (seven years ago) link

excited to see them sunday

the late great, Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:32 (seven years ago) link

i'm not super familiar with em, so i've been digging that new record. the previous ones are better?

tylerw, Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:36 (seven years ago) link

new record not as good as the previous (which i really dig) but still a million times better than that one with the tambourine on the front

flaccid archives (electricsound), Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:49 (seven years ago) link

yeah that one was my least favorite too.

I would rank them Dins > Hazed Dream > One Track Mind > Mirror Eye

dmr, Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:58 (seven years ago) link

alpine static -

I think that live there is a tension within the music that is entirely missing from the last few records. They are right on the edge of falling apart, but it's like the they're all tethered together so as each leans in a different direction the rope stays taut. I really thought they were going to lose it a couple of times, that they would get too slow to hold the beat, that the keys would stop comping the chords and the two guitarists would spiral off too far from the tune, but as a unit they are able to step it up and keep the slack from happening. Watching a band succeed at walking that line of being telepathically loose but never, ever sloppy I found exhilarating.

And the sound is much fuller; the woozy lurch is richer, more engaging. Also, talking with Tres after the show he said each night they're getting better and better. If that continues they could be something quite special by the time they come through town. Though honestly, I'd go to see Kinski in a heartbeat so them on the bill would just be icing on the cake.

However, please note that I'm a sucker for their kind of Velvety quaalude sound at high volume. I'm sure I'd like the last couple of records more through a big stonkin' PA.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 February 2013 22:50 (seven years ago) link

Awesome. Thanks, EZ. That definitely helps. (And yes, Kinski's presence on the bill helps tremendously. Other circumstances - young kids, the drive, no $ - are the biggest things keeping me away.)

alpine static, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:55 (seven years ago) link

I actually really like the new record, but its the first one I've heard since the Dins/Early Violence era and I'm kinda surprised its the same band tbh. But this is right up my alley.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 February 2013 23:02 (seven years ago) link

I haven't heard anything since the post-Mirror Eye EPs. No idea that they had a new recThey still have alot of potential as a band, , so I'm glad to hear a few positive reports.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 23 February 2013 06:38 (seven years ago) link

the lazy sleaze of hazed dream really works for me

rave revue (electricsound), Saturday, 23 February 2013 06:40 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

This seems to be the kind of band I'd normally like, but I'm really struggling to get through One Track Mind at the moment... there's something about this album that just feels kinda flat :/

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:49 (six years ago) link

i feel the same way. still love dins though.

dynamicinterface, Friday, 10 May 2013 21:59 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

RIP Tres

mizzell, Monday, 23 March 2020 22:28 (two weeks ago) link

i put on Dins after seeing the news, it's so good. i really like Inner Journey Out, too.

mizzell, Monday, 23 March 2020 22:57 (two weeks ago) link

Very sad, they were about to start recording again too.

AJD, Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:14 (four days ago) link

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