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A thread of his own! (At least I couldn't find one general-purpose.)

I remain baffled as to how Dave Longstreth and his jaw-droppingly brilliant "The Getty Address" went missing from so many year-end lists. Is it slipping radars because it defies categorization? Even in this hyphen-heavy age of exponentially splintering subgenres? I mean, WHAT, in fact, is this shit? Or rather, where on the spectrum of "psychedelic music" does it slot?

Cuz I gots no idea. Operatic but seemingly improvised, glitchy but organic, at times disorientingly slick but first primitive, a smarty-pants kayak paddling Downs-syndrome.... Naming another record so relentlessly experimental in the SERVICE of its hooks is a real battle. If pressed: Medulla...Vision Creation Newsun...Trout Mask Replica?

Where is the christforsaken LOVE, etc., etc.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Saturday, 14 January 2006 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

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Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

So...yeah.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i really love this guy's music...i agree it's really hard to categorize and that's probably why it slipped under most people's radar, and i think maybe the fact that it's a bit too of the composer-ly (dave longstreth studied composition at yale i think?) for pop-experimental (say animal collective?) fans, but too many organic-pop elements for the classical fans?

looks like he has some shows coming up in jan/feb that i will have to try to find the time for.

bell labs (bell_labs), Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Surprising how little I've read about this albums considering how many people I know who love it.

I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

ILX is eerily quiet about DP. The new album of Black Flag covers was fun live but I suspect it'll get old quite quickly. The Getty Address is really great though, and I'd probably buy anything with Longstreth singing on it.

ogmor, Friday, 20 July 2007 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I was just about to post on this again, just for the hell of it. I don't know why I do this to myself.

I know, right?, Friday, 20 July 2007 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

??

jaxon, Monday, 17 September 2007 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

this is weird

jaxon, Monday, 17 September 2007 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

hstencil, Monday, 17 September 2007 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link

really? i've only heard one song

jaxon, Monday, 17 September 2007 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link

really twisted afro pop

jaxon, Monday, 17 September 2007 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link

please don't bring black people into this whiter-than-white music.

hstencil, Monday, 17 September 2007 06:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i heard this. http://thankscity.com/jams/fraid/07_Gimme_Gimme_Gimme.mp3 (link might be down in next day or so)

i guess the guitar could be interpreted as either south african jive filtered through animal collective and that dogg (?) or maybe like a really poppy version of Storm & Stress.

why don't you like it?

jaxon, Monday, 17 September 2007 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link

you honestly wrote that second sentence in your post and then followed it up with the question "why don't you like it?" and can't figure out the incongruity between the two?

i mean seriously, even discounting the black flag "connection," that description sounds like music i'd never want to hear.

hstencil, Monday, 17 September 2007 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link

that song is great. i don't know anything about afropop or any of that but i dig this song. nice clean gtr tone and the playing has a nice buttery feel. i jumped a little bit when the drum splatters came in for the first time
xp

6335, Monday, 17 September 2007 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link

the black flag "connection" is the last reason i'd listen to this. the that dogg thing is probably the worst part of the description and i've only ever heard like 2 animal collective songs (and the latest panda bear album which is kinda neat). i used to really like storm and stress. i think we might have different tastes.

jaxon, Monday, 17 September 2007 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link

also, i have to ask: joel, did you even listen to that song or are you basing your descriptions on some other factors?

jaxon, Monday, 17 September 2007 07:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i've heard this whole album already, jaxon, as well as previous albums by them. i don't like what i've heard.

i liked s&s's two records but a "poppy version" of them sounds weak.

and animal collective = they might be giants. fuck that.

hstencil, Monday, 17 September 2007 07:08 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.daytrotter.com/download/311/id=383

woe, he's playing his guitar upside down

ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ERUPTING IN BACHATA AND REGGAETON !

in four thousand years rise above #1 will just be a footnote in the backstories for rise above #2 and Johnny Mnemonic

tramp steamer, Thursday, 27 September 2007 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't actually think i like this :-/

jaxon, Thursday, 27 September 2007 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link

given the album one listen so far. entirely baffled, i must say. what the hell is it?

CharlieNo4, Friday, 28 September 2007 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't heard this but the Getty Address was fantastic. Especially Jolly Jolly Jolly Ego. It sounds like him and a choir of dodgy tape players.

I know, right?, Friday, 28 September 2007 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Not sure about Dirty Projectors. I enjoyed watching the aztec-intensive dvd of the Getty Address but all their stuff seems to wear thin once you get the hang of it.

ogmor, Friday, 28 September 2007 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I just got Getty Address. I like it so far, although it feels a bit too conscious of what it's doing at times. Better than Animal Collective, for sure.

Hurting 2, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i really like this band, but lately the lyrics really bug me. not even his weird singing voice, just the lyrics themselves. the rest of it is so meticulous and then that part is just kind of phoned in...

bell_labs, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

It has a bit of that same Dr. Spock baby "look what an eclectic, self-expressive genius I am" thing that annoys me about Animal Collective

Hurting 2, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

you could call it just *being* an eclectic, self-expressive genius.

vadx, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry i am not an easy-to-categorize average artist

mizzell, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

wait, are you Dave Longstreth?

Hurting 2, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

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Hurting 2, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

no, i have never even heard this band, i just get tired of the criticism of people being too aware or consious of how they sound. are some people making a record by accident?

mizzell, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah

how is being conscious of your sound a bad thing?

talk about cockism

vadx, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i'd take overly composed music over another sloppy jam band anyday.

bell_labs, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't necessarily mean it's over-composed

Hurting 2, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I know.

Really though, I think the "look at me!" with acts like this is more in the listener who's threatened by like the flamboyant content or something.

I mean wouldn't saying a rapper gave off the vibe "lok at me, I'm an eclectic self-expressive genius" usually be a compliment?

vadx, Friday, 5 October 2007 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i listened to some of this. i didn't even get the black flag thing at all. sometimes stuff like this seems like it was written with a press release first, just to bait rock writers, then do the album after it.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 5 October 2007 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

there's also the possibility that people WANT to make music that sounds different

not that this is the differentest band ever... but compared to a good deal of indie rock they are

vadx, Friday, 5 October 2007 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i really like this band, but lately the lyrics really bug me. not even his weird singing voice, just the lyrics themselves. the rest of it is so meticulous and then that part is just kind of phoned in...

wait the black flag part of the lyrics ?

tramp steamer, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

uhh what? not all of their songs are black flag covers...i haven't even listened to the one that is

bell_labs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

err the one album that is. i was mostly talking about getty address and the glad fact.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

When I saw them live I kept thinking "Jesus, shut that guy up and let the girls sing." Then I got a promo of the album (whatever one was before the Black Flag thing) and kept thinking, "Oh, you precious fuck, shut the hell up and let the girls sing."

I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, and to answer the years-old question: No, the reason that no one wrote about this is not because it was too complicated. It was because if you like complicated music, this is disappointing and if you like poppy music, this is annoying. It hits the same dilettante weirdness level as Animal Collective.

I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm kind of afraid to listen to the black flag covers.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

<i>i'm kind of afraid to listen to the black flag covers.</i>

You should be...it's awful stuff.

kwhitehead, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean wouldn't saying a rapper gave off the vibe "lok at me, I'm an eclectic self-expressive genius" usually be a compliment?

-- vadx, Friday, October 5, 2007 4:06 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

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NO

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

C'mon, ILM! No love for Rise Above? This is a kick-ass record.

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, I played Six Pack on my radio show about a month ago.
Really cool.

Trip Maker, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

i'm revisiting this now (it's getting a whole lot of love around montreal, randomly) and i've decided it's great. more the beginning than the end, though, i think.

sean gramophone, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

"Rise Above" is the best thing on it.

Simon H., Friday, 18 January 2008 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

i'm pleasantly surprised by how good this is, he's playing to his strengths again and most importantly not coming across as a total asshole the entire time

ufo, Monday, 16 July 2018 15:10 (two years ago) link

Xpost I mean some of us do write shitty songs about our ex lovers and it is genuinely therapeutic but we don't have to release them.

This is deer

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Monday, 16 July 2018 18:50 (two years ago) link

I think I meant some general term of positivity but I'm a few beers in shrug

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Monday, 16 July 2018 18:51 (two years ago) link

it's 3 in the afternoon

flappy bird, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:53 (two years ago) link

not everywhere

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 July 2018 18:58 (two years ago) link

i know i know...

flappy bird, Monday, 16 July 2018 19:39 (two years ago) link

Shouldn’t be surprised at lack of press/enthusiasm/hype for a new DP album but I am. Boy that s/t really did a number on their brand for lack of a better word

flappy bird, Monday, 16 July 2018 19:40 (two years ago) link

And I know he got a lot of bad press for it but damn Longstreth should be thanking his lucky stars every day that it didn’t come out after October 2017

flappy bird, Monday, 16 July 2018 19:41 (two years ago) link

this is really great. enjoying the absence of uncomfortable lyrics.

Impossible Burgermeat. Unlikely Seitan. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 16 July 2018 22:34 (two years ago) link

I think this might be his best album, it feels so summery and pop, and I love the brass arrangements. I really was not expecting this at all, it's such a turnaround from the last one

even ignoring the ugly lyrics, the last album was a fairly tuneless mess - I'd only really keep Little Bubble and Cool Your Heart from it

ufo, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 05:30 (two years ago) link

Up in Hudson was great, too. Keep Your Name also gets stuck in my head a lot still.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 05:52 (two years ago) link

Keep forgetting to bump this thread and say that I think Lamp Lit Prose is fucking great and easily the best thing they've ever done besides Bitte Orca. The perfect move to make after the 2017 s/t.

flappy bird, Monday, 30 July 2018 00:33 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBpL1t8IK0E

I Feel Energy is the standout for me but I really love the whole thing, kinda surprised by the negative reception it's been getting elsewhere

ufo, Monday, 30 July 2018 02:54 (two years ago) link


kinda surprised by the negative reception it's been getting elsewhere

While I have read one or two extremely negative reviews for it, it seems like it's generally getting 4/5 off most people: http://www.metacritic.com/music/lamp-lit-prose/dirty-projectors

Maybe some negativity (or rather, indifference) toward it has to do with either a latent reaction to the s/t record or the general peak-2009-ness of DPs

Been listening to it a lot myself and finding it surprising how home-made it sounds, by which I mean that it's largely acoustic guitar/drums right at the centre of the songs and it feels like a lineage (in a recording/production sense) back to the really early DPs records is evident. Was surprised to see in the track credits that Dave is basically playing absolutely everything on the tracks.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 30 July 2018 06:18 (two years ago) link

Love this album to death; too many standout tracks to list. My only complaint is that "Zombie Conqueror" --> "Blue Bird" can feel like a bit of a slog if I'm not in the right mood... I don't know whether those two actually repeat their hooks any more often than e.g. "I Feel Energy" or "I Found It In U" or "Right Now", but they *feel* more repetitive.

Oh yeah, and some of the lyrics on "Break-Thru" are a bit cringey (but I like Dave even when he's cringey, he seems to come by it honestly).

bernard snowy, Monday, 30 July 2018 13:14 (two years ago) link

While there are moments here that remind me of Prince (esp. the squeaky-clean funk guitar, falsetto wailing, & vocal harmonies of "I Feel Energy"), I played the album for my father & he made the much more apt comparison to Squeeze

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 11:53 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

I got super into Ava Luna thanks to a tiny mention on this thread. They're playing the UK next week but seem to have almost zero profile here (Manchester date just been cancelled and changed to Cardiff - £6.50 a ticket!). Wish there was a thread for them but I don't really have the ILM juice or a ton of insights to offer. Except to say that, if I had created Ice Level (the music + the video), I'd expect the world to be fundamentally altered within 24hrs of uploading it to YouTube, not just 83k views in six years.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Monday, 10 June 2019 11:43 (one year ago) link

ava luna rules

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 10 June 2019 12:03 (one year ago) link

Ava Luna are one of the best bands imo

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 03:47 (one year ago) link

They've never got any play or promotion in Europe whatsoever.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 05:44 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

been really into "lamp lit prose" recently, such a tight, breezy return to form

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 September 2019 15:29 (one year ago) link

break-thru is cool

flappy bird, Monday, 30 September 2019 04:34 (one year ago) link

whole album is cool, i agree with k3vin k

just sayin, Monday, 30 September 2019 04:55 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzHGYtIqLig

New video from new album with new band (i.e. Lamp Lit Prose touring group). Maia Friedman as lead vocalist and co-lyricist.

P chill and it is growing on me.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 27 February 2020 13:27 (nine months ago) link

That's a nice song. I really loved Bitte Orca and Swing Lo Magellan, but didn't like it when he started changing it up and acting like a creep. Should I revisit?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:24 (nine months ago) link

Lamp Lit Prose was a lot less creepy and very good

Frederik B, Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:32 (nine months ago) link

yeah the s/t was not very good but lamp lit prose is maybe my favourite dp album

ufo, Friday, 28 February 2020 00:16 (nine months ago) link

i would characterise the s/t as more jerk than creep

lamp lit prose was recorded all by dave with guest vocalists added. the new record i think is recorded with the band put together to tour lamp lit prose

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 29 February 2020 08:05 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

hadnt realised that overlord was from an EP that came out in March. it's good! there's also a related playlist on Spotify full of jams that they put up w Arthur Russell, 70s Dylan, judee sill etc

just sayin, Thursday, 7 May 2020 07:49 (six months ago) link

there's another EP on its way, this is the single from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtAcgEtY_CM

with three other EPs also set for release this year. the gimmick is a different band member sings lead on each, except the last which will have everyone

ufo, Thursday, 7 May 2020 07:52 (six months ago) link

The Windows Open playlist is a real treat.

I had a big hunch they were gonna do EPs with each of the singers taking the lead a month ago, especially after Windows Open was all Maya and it came from a such as it was derived from that Portland indie-folk root of the DPs catalogue

I hope they do a bananas orchestral EP amongst the later releases too

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 7 May 2020 19:24 (six months ago) link

three months pass...

3rd EP out today. really into these

just sayin, Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:50 (two months ago) link

I love this song so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyU5dHmmFmE

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:41 (two months ago) link

With the latest releases it feels like the new band has come into its own and stopped trying to sound like the band with Amber and Angel. I did love a few tracks on Lamp Lit Prose but it still felt a little like Dave was trying to keep something going that wasn't there anymore.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:28 (two months ago) link

Holy Mackerel is such a jam. I like stripped-down bossa nova DPs, but also the full-on electronic production too. He's gotten so good at it and Lamp Lit Prose is a high point.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:06 (two months ago) link

agree his dancey/R&B-style production is ace

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:08 (two months ago) link

I was recently with my aging millennial friends who stopped listening to much new music by 2012, and trying to convince them that Dirty Projectors, Vampire Weekend, and Grizzly Bear had all released their best albums within the last three years.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:11 (two months ago) link

With the latest releases it feels like the new band has come into its own and stopped trying to sound like the band with Amber and Angel. I did love a few tracks on Lamp Lit Prose but it still felt a little like Dave was trying to keep something going that wasn't there anymore.

The new band was put together after Lamp Lit Prose, which was almost all Dave and guest vocalists doing a song each with him.

I think the new stuff feels quite related to The Glad Fact era, except each of the elements is way more developed just by being a more experienced writer. Super excited to see what the next two EPs hold.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 17 September 2020 05:51 (two months ago) link

I am very into the new EPs, mostly because Felicia is amazing. "Super Joao" is somewhat disappointing to me because, well, 'the bossanova mood is not created'

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 17 September 2020 15:41 (two months ago) link

I'm very curious about the songwriting process, since it feels very obvious what is a Dave melody and what isn't, no matter who's singing it (like, even when Rihanna is the one singing it).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 17 September 2020 16:45 (two months ago) link

the press release said that dave wrote everything for these EPs, except for the lyrics which were a collaboration between him and whichever band member is singing lead for each EP

felicia's other band gemma i really good, i've been really into their album feeling's not a tempo lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZtETeYGVYM

ufo, Friday, 18 September 2020 10:06 (two months ago) link

I read that DL collaborated with Kyle from Little Wings on the lyrics for Super João

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 20 September 2020 07:11 (two months ago) link

I hope they do a bananas orchestral EP amongst the later releases too

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:24 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

just sayin, Friday, 2 October 2020 01:54 (one month ago) link

Ha I was just thinking of that prediction. Will the last one be a big groovy Bitte Orca vibe?

in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 5 October 2020 19:59 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzhCV1nla7g

last EP out soon

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:15 (one month ago) link

love this one

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:32 (one month ago) link

the tiny desk concert was lovely.

lukas, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:38 (one month ago) link

great track

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:44 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

the full 5EPs works quite nicely as a whole, it's all pleasantly relaxed while covering quite a few different sounds yet remains cohesive

ufo, Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:02 (six days ago) link

I got my box set during the week. It's a beautiful package, worth the investment made in March!

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 27 November 2020 07:06 (yesterday) link


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