GROUPER "Way Their Crept" --- CONTACT

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Please, i'm looking for a link or an e-mail address in order to contact Liz Harris (aka Grouper) for an interview. Indeed, i'd like to write a portait of this artist and her wonderful album published by the label Free Porcupine Society... First, i contacted this label but no reply...

Thanks.
Bests

Matt B (aerial1), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I really love this album. Liz' personal e-mail is right there in the liner notes, though (you downloader)

ysi for 'black out' I posted last week to noise ysi is still up

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Uh, a friend of mine is sending me a mixtape song by song and "Disengaged" by Grouper just came on, obliterating all songs of this year before it. What is known of this "GROUPER"?

http://www.typerecords.com/artists/full.php?id=48

Z S, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Friends description: "Liz Harris is from Poland, and she's got a few musical projects that run the gamut from spacey Hope Sandoval type music to this, a combination of drone soundscapes and lo-fi broken east-european folk. That description is a misnomer - think folk and you imagine exactly what Grouper is not. This music has more in common with the Microphones than Devendra Banhart, and her real draw isn't her mastery of narrative po-dunk lyrics - it's her soul-melting, beautiful ethereal voice and her ear for incredibly moody - albeit lo-fi - recording aesthetics. Imagine one of the Deheza twins becoming obsessed with fuzz pedals and dark psychedelia. As Grouper, she's begun to manipulate her voice in the same manner that she does every other recorded instrument on her projects. On this first song from her newest album, her voice follows hand in hand the melody of the rhodes-come-blown-out-leslie. I can't tell what she's saying, and it truely does not make a difference to me. The atmosphere is beautiful, her voice is beautiful, and the emotions she is conveying - terrible though they must be - are beautiful as well."

Z S, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

she's from Portland, not Poland

resolved, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Here you go:

http://www.myspace.com/grouperrepuorg

Looks like she logged in today.

We are so lucky to have her here. I've seen some really great (and always unassuming) sets from her in coffee shops, in the park...

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Love Grouper. New album is ace. Can't wait to get the vinyl.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:38 (fourteen years ago) link

New album is brilliant. Up there with Inca Ore's release, my best release of the year so far (I think).

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

YES! I'm really digging the new one. I loved it so much that I bought a couple of her previous releases. Can't wait to get them in the mail.

Bill in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

high praise from this review:

foxy digitalis : reviews: Grouper "Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill"
http://www.foxydigitalis.com/foxyd/reviews.php?which=3440

"This is an amazing album that will most likely remain a highlight release for the year. " 10/10

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

'grouper' CDR EP - (heavier noiser mixes of her first recordings, most of these were remixed for the first album)
'way their crept' LP - still my favorite, her harmonies & the absurd levels of tape delay bury the songs but the songs are still there
'he knows he knows he knows' EP - like the 1st LP, just as great
'wide' LP - follows on from the first LP, heavier & spacier and more intense, maybe a less instantly memorable group of songs but I need to go back and check
'flashlights: eckords' - collaboration with violinist jorge boehringer, very very very spaced
xiu xiu vs. grouper - 'creepshow' - haven't heard
'cover the windows and walls' EP - only have mp3s of this so haven't spent as much time with it -- never even saw this in stores, but it's songs
'dragging a dead deer up a hill' LP - this is going to do very well for her, she's pulled back on the delays but everything still sounds covered in silt and her songwriting has taken a jump forward

she's one to watch

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Ok, I finally listened to the rest of the songs for the first time, and yes, they're all great. Not enough have just straight up said "What a graceful voice", and they should. This is peaceful death music, I love it.

I predict I will post about this again on August 3rd of this year, because that's the day I finally get back home. And when I arrive, there's going to be a small pile of her records because I'm going to have to drunkenly order a good half of those LPs and EPs Milton just mentioned. Not the Xiu Xiu one, though.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm going to save the S-word too - Slowdive. This wouldn't be out of place on Pygmalion.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I will also say it.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:39 (fourteen years ago) link

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, at least I still get to care about something, which is a nice consolation prize.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Yeah, still fucking awesome.
This is off the newest one:

Heavy Water/I'd Rather be Sleeping

and I have two other (better) songs from Dragging a Dead Deer up a Hill here:
http://headofstate.muxtape.com/

And this is a little older.
HERE

Z S, Saturday, 19 July 2008 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link

got new lp in the other day

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 19 July 2008 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I missed buying that Dragging A Dead Deer album, can't find it anywhere. Any leads?

sleeve, Saturday, 19 July 2008 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.boomkat.com/search.cfm?q=grouper

Z S, Monday, 21 July 2008 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a dude here in Portland who's just as good as Grouper. His project is called Dragging An Ox Through Water.

Nate Carson, Monday, 21 July 2008 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Finally got the new one today...So amazing. Like, one of the best things I've heard all year. Its been a long time since I've been able to just sit down and let an album wash over me, but this has done it. "Stuck" in particular just makes me swoon. The melodies on this are amazing! I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Is very good, that new one.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

what is it called?

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill"

Best album title ever too!!!

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

Have you got it yet? Is it good? Did you order it from her website? How much was it?

Yeah, I'm still really, really into the new one. It only sounds better as it gets colder and more leaves fall off the trees.

Z S, Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

nice

czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

vaguely recall a mention on ILX and an Inca Ore connection (blown away Ms. Saelens live recently, her LP one of few sweet spots of '08 for me)...

must investigate further!

also, this Grouper LP punching well above it's weight in obscurity here http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2008

fandango, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link

The inca ore and grouper split is from 2007. It's ok, sort of a bridge between her first records and the minimalistic approach of guitar/voice style that she used on 'dragging a dead dear'.

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/inca_ore___grouper/split/

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Has anybody deciphered the lyrics to 'heavy water/I'd rather be sleeping'? - so far I can only make up: 'love is enormous / it's lifting me up / i'd rather be sleeping / i'd rather fall in your tidal waves / right where the deepest currents pull'

Moka, Monday, 22 December 2008 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

this album ! :-O

really really good.

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, June 23, 2008 2:43 AM

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

If she was a dude she would still be 1000x more interesting than Fleet Fuxxes

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

^^real talk. 'Dead Deer' is on my top ten list of the year, but I don't know what she looks like (if looks are what's implied). And well, imagining the vocals as coming from a he, well that's just silly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, I wasn't quoting that as in "I agree with this", I was quoting that as in http://i44.tinypic.com/2mhvo8j.jpg

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I want to say something about how this album unfolds it's pleasures like a flower, at about the same speed, without it sounding dirty.

Possibly the most gorgously intimate and non "produced" sounding thing I've heard all year too. She might as well be in the room.

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

This goes down well with a copy of Chris Ware's graphic novel The Smartest Kid on Earth and my Mom's fried boneless fish.

dreamsonvhs, Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:34 (thirteen years ago) link

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

Plenty of us care about Sonic Boom!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 April 2009 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I picked this up on a whim today from amazon's mp3 store, where it's on sale for $1.99. It's remarkably gorgeous!

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

by "this" I mean the Dragging a Dead Deer album

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Deeply amused by "fart alert"

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

That's a damn good price (I paid $14.99 retail) and almost makes me want to switch over to buying in digital format... but not really. xpost

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

That's exactly my sentiment, ilxor. But if a crazy low price like that leads to more people getting into her music, it's all for the better. She deserves it.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Baffling, pointless review on Tinymixtapes of the live show:

The show is sold out, but most fans are waiting to pile in after the opening act, Grouper — a one-woman showcase of bullshit. Imagine Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters. I try to salvage something from the fuzzy reverb and her long, lonely wails, but I can’t stop picturing her masturbating in front of a full-length mirror. Self-indulgence, indeed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh.

original bgm, Friday, 12 June 2009 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

Really? That's news to me!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

if you're going to choose such an ambiguous username...

suggestzybandias (jim), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason. I saw my comment this morning and wondered what the hell I was talking about, because I don't really have any beef with tinymixtapes.com.

That AOL sonned thread has me thinking about who I do and do not have beefs with today.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

just gonna order the CD, v. excited to hear it!

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:51 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

new album is gorgeous as expected, her best album in a while

ufo, Friday, 27 August 2021 02:05 (eleven months ago) link

jeeze, 2 months to wait

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 27 August 2021 03:14 (eleven months ago) link

it's mostly acoustic guitar-based but in a folkier way than before, probably most similar to ruins except with acoustic guitar instead of piano. there's some other dronier tracks too, of course

unusually there's even drums on one track, but in the most grouper way possible

ufo, Saturday, 28 August 2021 09:16 (eleven months ago) link

awesome, thanks ufo!

probably most similar to ruins except with acoustic guitar instead of piano. there's some other dronier tracks too, of course

so, to me that sounds in the direction of Dragging a Dead Deer -- is it like that?

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Saturday, 28 August 2021 09:42 (eleven months ago) link

"unclean mind" is the closest to ddad, the other acoustic guitar tracks are a different style, folkier with slow picking. it works really well

ufo, Saturday, 28 August 2021 09:48 (eleven months ago) link

maybe a touch of Tiny Vipers / Mirrorring

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 28 August 2021 12:46 (eleven months ago) link

yeah it's pretty reminiscent of some of the stuff on foreign body

ufo, Saturday, 28 August 2021 15:16 (eleven months ago) link

Liz graces the cover of the Wire. https://www.thewire.co.uk/issues/451

Plus an article about her favorite sea-related art: https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/essays/return-to-the-source-grouper-s-favourite-art-about-the-sea

irerisered, Sunday, 29 August 2021 08:53 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1HoarnBVbk

ufo, Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:37 (ten months ago) link

Does sound like Ruins with guitar. Will be a devastating winter listen, I'm sure.

Indexed, Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:54 (ten months ago) link

“Ode to the Blue” has utterly captivated me these past few days … such quiet intensity. I hope the rest of the album mostly sounds like this

missingNO, Saturday, 18 September 2021 15:24 (ten months ago) link

you're in luck

ufo, Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:40 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

First listen to the new album. I wonder what people will make of this in 50 or 100 years? Will they think we finally found the correct equipment for recording hauntings? This is beautiful and captivating but, to mix metaphors, it is like watching someone slowly fade out of existence.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 22 October 2021 07:35 (nine months ago) link

My god at Kelso (Blue Sky).

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 22 October 2021 07:35 (nine months ago) link

i've spent enough time with this now to be confident it's up with her best

ufo, Friday, 22 October 2021 09:37 (nine months ago) link

The last track on this LP is like finally looking at the sky on a beautiful day after spending all day in a shadowy house - it’s like running full tilt into an emotional wall

Best Grouper/Harris in nine years (with apologies to “The Original Faces”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 October 2021 09:53 (nine months ago) link

When that first proper verse in “Kelso” comes …

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 October 2021 10:26 (nine months ago) link

I’m gonna play this on loop at my house in halloween to spook children.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 22 October 2021 14:40 (nine months ago) link

wow. love the vocals on Kelso. lovely

gman59, Friday, 22 October 2021 14:58 (nine months ago) link

this is great

Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Friday, 22 October 2021 15:42 (nine months ago) link

loving this

Indexed, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:20 (nine months ago) link

Kelso is so good. Aside from the otherworldly Paradise Valley tunes, as pretty as anything I've heard from her.

Indexed, Sunday, 24 October 2021 02:20 (nine months ago) link

it's her best since AIA, not counting Paradise Valley - wish there was a whole album's worth of that

ufo, Sunday, 24 October 2021 08:25 (nine months ago) link

Only four tracks in, but oh my god that opener

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:45 (nine months ago) link

and oh my god kelso!!!!

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 25 October 2021 04:09 (nine months ago) link

once again, thank you based liz

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 25 October 2021 04:09 (nine months ago) link

I like how “the way her hair falls” is not just a (natural) loop but a loop that breaks

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:16 (nine months ago) link

yeah Paradise Valley is really special. would love more in that style, oh man

gman59, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:22 (nine months ago) link

headache is a worldie

'promise' from the new one is very special. imagine being that quiet with someone.

maelin, Monday, 25 October 2021 20:23 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

🚨🚨🚨🚨

whoa... new RAUM (Liz Harris + Jefre Cantu-Ledesma) 2xLP ???https://t.co/cJCoQsdrRN

i loved their first album together. this one is already sounding gorgeous & deeply zoned, pure drift mode

— Good Willsmith (@GoodWillsmith) February 4, 2022

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 18:09 (six months ago) link

it RULES so far

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 18:26 (six months ago) link

this is the good stuff

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 18:27 (six months ago) link

Oh nice!

Apparently there is more than one Raum - Spotify shows a pic and bio for some electronic musician. Looks like their discographies are mixed up too. (Not the usual imposter shit that happens - I think this is legitimately two artists using the same name.)

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 4 February 2022 18:28 (six months ago) link

i'm still in the middle of my first listen. very, very pleasing mix of guitar, piano, field recordings, and synths (very The Alps, which makes sense)

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 18:43 (six months ago) link

the last track is 20 minutes long, i'm so pumped

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 18:43 (six months ago) link

here is the earlier album: https://grouper.bandcamp.com/album/event-of-your-leaving

going to listen to that one later, but today's release is plenty for repeat listening for now

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 18:44 (six months ago) link

Jefre Cantu-Ledesma is severely underrated. Very prolific too.

Evan, Friday, 4 February 2022 19:21 (six months ago) link

It's a miracle I nabbed that Paradise Valley 7" back when that came out because recently the special editions of her releases are scooped up as soon as they drop! I was lucky though, because when that 7" was gone it was gone. At least I could still get "normal" versions of these more recent offerings.

Evan, Friday, 4 February 2022 19:35 (six months ago) link

yo this is terrific

i like jefre cantu-ledesma a lot but sometimes it feels like he sands the rough edges down a little too far, liz adds a little texture back

adam, Friday, 4 February 2022 20:04 (six months ago) link

^^^ same

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 20:33 (six months ago) link

they are a very good duo, sounds and methods that work well and reveal new things in each other's music

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 February 2022 20:38 (six months ago) link

To be fair to Jefre his albums generally all sound a bit different, some rougher than others.

Evan, Friday, 4 February 2022 20:43 (six months ago) link

this is pleasant

i figure i should dig more into cantu-ledesma at some point, i liked on the echoing green a few years back, especially "a song of summer" which was an incredible shoegaze epic. no idea where to go from there though

ufo, Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:25 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

saw her play last night -- my first time ever seeing her -- at a sold out theater in portland last night, maybe 150 people total, most everyone seated. while it mostly blended together song to song, i definitely picked out "alien observer", "headache", "living room", and i believe parts of "i'm clean now" and "vanishing point"? she played electric guitar and a mixing board from what I could tell. the visuals were often gorgeous and hypnotic, some unforgettable.

by happenstance i ended up sitting next to some of her friends and she stopped to chat with them just before going onstage, and she introduced herself to me and told me I looked sharp. so i'm good for awhile!

Clay, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 23:11 (four months ago) link

she introduced herself to me and told me I looked sharp. so i'm good for awhile!

whoa, that's awesome! definitely one for the back of the book quote!

i saw grouper once, a few years back in chicago, the athletic association. that was such a lovely night, maybe a slightly larger crowd (200? guessing) but also very intimate, and everyone was so quiet. lovely memories.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 23:38 (four months ago) link

yeah it was pin-drop quiet, someone dropped their phone on the floor near the end of the performance and it was like a bomb went off

Clay, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 23:45 (four months ago) link

but even then, i'm sure one of her mics picked up the sound faintly and it softly entered the woozy reverb sound to pleasing effect

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 23:51 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

I saw her the other night in BK and it was the best I'd ever seen her. I've been trying to find the reworked version she did of "False Horizon" the other night because it blew me away. The only thing i could find is this upload from that same show shot on mini dv but it does the job. truly beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu2NGV1UKxE

starts at 21:08 in case my link loses the timecode

gman59, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:29 (two months ago) link

I also saw her there but on Thursday, great show.

Evan, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:31 (two months ago) link


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