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Spawned Clare Grogan and also (oddly) The Wake. Are they the original twee pop group?

electric sound of jim, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Second LP "Pinky Blue" dead set classick, delightful Martin Rushent production (better than that Pete Shelly album he did).

electric sound of jim, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It has been a lifetime since I've heard them, and I never heard their 2nd, but Happy Birthday had some good songs. Search: "Insects". I liked the band better than Clare's singing.

Curt, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Altered Images were not twee - grrr

I'll do a S/D later today (assuming we've not done this lot before).

Jeff W, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I last heard Bite too long ago for me to confidently proclaim that as a classic, but "Don't Talk To Me About Love" is one of the best records ever. And who agrees with me? Pat Nevin. IRMC.

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Dead Pop Stars and I Could Be Happy are ace! I like them, but CG's voice takes a bit of adjusting to, even now.

I saw them in 1981 at Reading Top Rank supported by Vic Godard. They just seemed *wrong* in a large hall, so I didn't enjoy it much. I never saw them in a small venue though.

Dr. C, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Happy Birthday" was just a thin re-write of the Banshees' "Hong Kong Garden," but didn't Steve Severin produce it anyway?

Alex in NYC, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I think Martin Rushent did "Happy Birthday" the song, but Severin did the rest of the LP of same name. Neither producer in fact did the band any favours, tho' I like 12" mixes of "I Could Be Happy" and "See Those Eyes". Search those, plus the Peel Sessions if you can find them, plus the "Dead Pop Stars" seven-inch (both sides are fab).

"Leave Me Alone" off the first LP has a really twisted girl-to-girl sexual jealousy thing going on, a subject which I will start a thread about some day.

Destroy: the Pinky Blue version of "Song Sung Blue".

Jeff W, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

From what I remeber of them (all the songs mentioned above), Altered Images were the very defintion of "twee".

Sean, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

they were pretty darn good, and pretty twee to i think. listening to them now i think they influenced the sundays, the sugarcubes, even life without buildings. At least, if you like the vocals in those bands, you want have any problems with clare grogan.

g, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Did Grogan make the band twee? Or did the band make the band twee?

Andy K, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Gregory's Girl was a twee movie.

Curt, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I saw them on the tour w/vic godard as well. in fact that was my first proper gig! I liked them a lot, and they did rock live. I can't remember too much about the rekkids tho' (i did have some) CG = rowr, obv. moreso than almost anyone else ever in fact

Norman Phay, Monday, 4 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

**CG = rowr, obv. moreso than almost anyone else ever in fact**

Oh God yes, Norm. yes!

I was having a rather dull pub lunch with work colleagues a couple of years ago when SHE WALKED IN!! I talked to her for a little while - VERY nice and as you say, ultra-rowr. I behaved oddly for months afterwards.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
May I just affirm the UTTER FUCKING MAJESTY of the late AI disco stuff, 'Don't Talk to Me About Love' (if Chic had been brought up in Greenock?) and 'Bring Me Closer' especially.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 11:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Don't Talk to Me About Love" is one of my all-time favorites ever ever ever and I put it on every mix CD that I ever make for everyone !

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 11:59 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

(produced by Mike Chapman!!)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 12:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You have uncommonly fine taste, Jody!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Spawned Clare Grogan and also (oddly) The Wake"

And of course Johnny McElhone went on to join Hipsway and then Texas.

"I saw them in 1981 at Reading Top Rank supported by Vic Godard. They just seemed *wrong* in a large hall, so I didn't enjoy it much. I never saw them in a small venue though."

How did I manage to miss that one Dr. C.?! I do remember seeing them at Hammersmith Palais in (I think) very early '80 'though, supporting Siouxsie & The Banshees (also on the bill that night were The Yachts and The Associates!) and actually I thought they were pretty good in a less-threatening-Banshees-lite kind of way.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

new best of Altered Images package released next week:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007FOL0

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 13:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

They new best of is shit - either of the previous two are better, especially 'Reflected Images' if you want the best 12" versions. What's needed is a 2CD retrospective including Peel sessions and B-sides. Or the original albums remastered and expanded with the extra trax. Somebody get it done!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 14:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dr C - you are SO right about Bring Me Closer - utterly fantastic song.... remember the James Bond video?
Also, Don't talk to me about love, another classic from the Bite album (which had a lovely cover, too).
I served Johnny McElhone once when I worked in a record shop in the 80s.
His card got refused!

russ t, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 17:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i've been listening to Reflected Images heaps lately, but I don't really get into the stuff from the third LP onwards.. but all the Rushent-produced stuff makes me happy happy...

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

That's funny, I hadn't even seen this thread when I mentioned "Don't Talk to Me about Love" on that sexy female accent thread. They should do a comeback tour, there's something in the air.

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 02:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Random things:

* "Bring Me Closer" reminds me of the Wonder Woman theme song - in particular, the backing singers singing "You took me nowhere!" (Am I smoking crack, or can you hear the similarity?)

* Ugh, so now there are *four* AI best-of collections (and only three studio albums)?! For crying out loud, just release a 3-CD boxed set, PLEASE, and that should cover everything. In the very least, re-release Pinky Blue.

* I actually like the "Song Sung Blue" cover. But yes, it is perhaps their most twee moment.

* "Don't Talk to Me About Love" - love it...what a great chorus! "Yesterdays shatter, tomorrows don't matter" But, the most sublime song from Bite for me is "Love to Stay."

* The single versions for "I Could Be Happy" and "See Those Eyes" are better than the album versions (which are the 12" remix versions also, if I'm not mistaken).

* Regarding Bite - what were they thinking? That is, the cover photo, "Stand So Quiet" (bleh), "Now That You're Here" (double bleh)..."Change of Heart" is cute, but it doesn't fit on the album at all. And...why a disco throwback, especially right in the middle of the new wave?

* "Sentimental" could've been a lost Factory Records gem.

* The album cover for Pinky Blue is sooo 80s, it's unbelievable.

* Apparently, they played several live shows in December 2002 for the "Here and Now Christmas party" in Britain - did anyone see them?

Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 05:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

* The single versions for "I Could Be Happy" and "See Those Eyes" are better than the album versions (which are the 12" remix versions also, if I'm not mistaken).

* "Sentimental" could've been a lost Factory Records gem.

I agree with both of those.


electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 05:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ernest - the 'Bite' album sleeve is one of the all-time sexiest album covers?! It was obviously a conscious decision to make the band appeal to a more grown up audience. It didn't seem to work, but the sleeve stands as a great piece of design.

And Bite, remember, came out in summer 1983 - new wave had been dead for ages then.... thePolice were number one at the time if I remember correctly! I remember buying Bite the same time as Yazoo's 'You and Me Both'. They've remained two of my favourite albums.

russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

No Altered Images compilation can be considered definitive without the Peel session version of "Song Sung Blue." "Hullo, good evening, we're Altered Images..." Genius genius genius.

"Bring Me Closer" is one of the ten greatest singles of the '80s. Boring fact: only got to #29 because there was a pressing plant strike at CBS and shops ran out of copies. Otherwise, probably would/should have gone all the way to the top.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

really great band, twee or not
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXL20PtSkjQ

gershy, Saturday, 17 November 2007 07:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

"love and kisses" is miles and away their best song, i think..

winston, Sunday, 18 November 2007 07:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

ten years pass...

I've never heard a single Altered Images song before today. I ordered this and I'm taking in Happy Birthday right now. It's good. Like, pretty damn good.

Fucking Caesar from the Wake plays on some of it, too! How in the hell how have I dismissed this band for so long?

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Saturday, 9 June 2018 04:24 (one week ago) Permalink

There's been a lot of Altered Images turning up on Dime recently. Not sure what's triggered it. Seems to be over the last couple of months so wonder if the February released set was a trigger for it. Actually seems to have started mid March and is about 25 or 30 dates since then.
Hadn't realised there was a reunion in 2002 but there's a set up from then.

Stevolende, Saturday, 9 June 2018 10:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Apologies for my ignorance, but what is Dime?

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Saturday, 9 June 2018 16:42 (one week ago) Permalink

S: love and kisses

brimstead, Saturday, 9 June 2018 18:12 (one week ago) Permalink

Pinky Blue is absolutely classic. I just discovered it about 3 years back, and it's been in pretty steady rotation ever since. The Martin Rushent production on the I Could Be Happy remix is definitely one of the better things he ever did.

Pinky Blue >>> Bite > Happy Birthday

enochroot, Saturday, 9 June 2018 20:45 (one week ago) Permalink

That's how I'd rank them too, though I'd probably keep Bite and Happy Birthday on equal footing instead of ranking one over the other.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 June 2018 20:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Dime = Dimeadozen, private torrent site for live recordings.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:42 (one week ago) Permalink

Ahh, that makes sense now.

Just gave Pinky Blue a run and I like it even more than the first album. Kinda late right now, but I'll definitely give Bite a run-through tomorrow.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Sunday, 10 June 2018 04:46 (one week ago) Permalink

So weird, I bought Pinky Blue today on a whim because the cover was cool. Never heard of them before. Good record.

flappy bird, Sunday, 10 June 2018 07:35 (one week ago) Permalink

The last couple of minutes of Don’t Talk To Me About Love from the guitar solo onwards are just sublime. That song is up there with the best of the 80s, their Rip It Up moment if you like. The one other really good song on Bite is Stand So Quiet, could probably live without the rest of it though.

my old man’s a wasteman (NickB), Sunday, 10 June 2018 10:55 (one week ago) Permalink


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