What have the noughties done for us?

Not to be all Johnny Pedantic, but Emo pre-dates the noughties.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008OWZG.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

condolences,
your future selves, 2003 and later.

Yeh, sure but that's like saying Techno was invented in 1982. It's only in the last two or three years that Emo's become a household term, and only in 2005 when I can't walk down the street without seeing dozens of jet-black haired teens with stripey socks on.

Oh, and you'll be able to buy live DVD's from almost every tour (more than one of them for each U2 tour, even) from every band you can think of and more. Are you sitting down? OK. Kraftwerk are going to release a live album/DVD.

Top 1000 Rated Albums 2000 - 2005
http://rateyourmusic.com/top_albums/b1_is_2000_and_b2_is_2005_and_stop_is_1000

Music of the 00s Portal
http://www.geocities.com/altmartinuk/m00s.html

So far we're 0 for 4.

JLC.
The 80's influence that's penetrated dance, rock, and rap.

That's all I got right now.

I'd say this is the only stylistic big shift so far, and it's a big one at that. And everyone thought electroclash was "just a fad".

NOWT

Reggaeton feels more significant to me. Because it imports a new language and sub-culture into popular perception. Bit like reggae brought carribean music into pop mainstream in the 70s. Or bhangra / desi / bollywood infected the mainstream in the 90s.

Seems to me like Spanish singing and rapping could become a fixture in mainstream anglo-american pop. It's not going to be a novelty thing or something for obscurists who listen to salsa.

And once the initial infection has occurred there's a wealth of latin music available to be experimented with : merengue, tango, cumbia.

BTW : Anyone heard Rumbaton?

http://ethereascope.com/?p=33

This is grebt :

http://www.ethereascope.com/mp3/Boheme%20vs%20los%20chunguitos%20-%20Karmen%20Reggaeton.mp3

Whoever said "Trapped in the Closet" had better be joking.

When I saw Chaos Butterfly

Anyway, when I saw them (and their laptops) I said to my friend "This is what we thought the music of the future would sound like in the 80's". And it was good.

- Contemporary hip-hop influenced mainstream R&B (Started in the 90s - crossed over to white audiences in the 00s)

- Rock revival (Reviving genres- and even music (lots of 14 year-olds are now heavily into Iron Maiden and GnR) from the 70s-80s.

- Electroclash/ electro revival (Roots in 80s synthpop, 80s electro and late 70s disco)

- Hip Hop (has been around since the 80s - still popular although possibly not quite as dominant as in the 90s)

- Grownup Indie (Coldplay, Travis etc - roots in 90s Britpop and New Serious)

- Postrock revival (Roots in late 70s/early 80s postrock)

The only genres that seem to have more or less disappeared since the 90s are trip hop and various forms of electronica. At least they are clearly less dominant now than they used to be. Other than that, it seems that most of the trends from the 90s are still here, plus new ones are added that do all have their roots in the past.

So I guess it's all about repeating the past, basically.. :)

Anyone remember "House of Love"? 80s grown-up indie was the original grown-up indie .... ugh.

"Just a welcome twist on a new theme"

Should have read "Just a welcome twist on an OLD theme"

Grier, I did mention bhangra in my previous post, as a 90s thing.

Well, you could start off listening to some of Timbaland's productions for Missy Elliott...

Yeah, but hasn't that died down a bit? Though after I made that post, I realized Jay-Z's song with Punjabi MC was from the noughties not the 90s.

I think the people talking about distribution, the internet, etc. probably have it right.

x-post

And, yes, ringtones.

Man, whenever I think Geir can't top himself, he does so.

Top himself as "come up with an even more retarded proclaimation", obviously, rather than "kill himself".

did bhangra start out as jungle ?

Thank you, drive through.

no but there was some eventual crossover e.g. Talvin Singh and the actually-rather-good-even-today 'Anokha' compilation

the weird part being that the general public is basically ignorant of the fact that electrocash even existed...here in the US anyway.

It was only recently that I stumbled upon it myself (by the time I figure something out, the hipsters are already jumping ship en masse - you can set your watch by it) , and even now most folks I know *might* be able to pick out a fischerspooner song. Whenever I throw on Miss Kitten (or is that electro-house?) at a party people all want burned copies... So while the mainstream may have missed the boat for now, people seem to be hungry for something new. Maybe it just hasn't taken off yet?

BTW, I live in Seattle.

Sure. No doubt about that. I expect most singles hitlists by 2009 will include downloads (and probably airplay as well, given that actual singles sales get less and less important) But, yet, even if the most important trends of the 80s may have been the music video and the Compact Disc doesn't mean that there is no music that is remembered as typical 80s music as well.

Living in Sydney in 1993 I must have imagined all the bhangra! (seriously: I haven't heard as much in ten years since as I did in 93-94)

- Electroclash / 80s revival / slick digital pop in general, so that's everything from Miss Kittin to Interpol

- The Dancehall boom of 2003 and the Reggaeton craze of 2005

- Freakfolk/Noize/Kid A/Postrock

- Emo and pop-punk

- all that NME nonsense

- the eventual acceptance of hiphop

seriously though, the 00's will mainly be remembered as the time when music ceased to have any political significance whatsoever.

what the fuck?

huh ?

re hip-hop 'acceptance', presumably doglatin means 'critically', assuming 'The College Dropout', 'Stankonia' and 'The Blueprint' cropped up in more rock mag end of year lists than 'The Chronic' or 'The Score' did?

-- Sororah T Massacre (stevem7...), January 4th, 2006.

doubt it. anyways hip-hop was 'accepted' by white rock press (and the face) by the late 80s.

i don't like that meme so much, it leaves a lot out, and it leaves a lot of what i like out, and it doesn't make any sense (punk was a fairly insignificant phenom in the US, compared to rock'n'roll, in 1977; dance never made anything like the impact of psychedelia; but in the UK rock'n'roll, in 1956, wasn't that big a deal).

tbh i can't think of any big equiv 'movements' for the 90s *or* the 00s (no junglist i). but the continued forward motion of dahnce up to the late 90s makes up for it, perhaps.

People were bootlegging on irc fserves YEARS before Napster. Napster was just a logical extension of that. Maybe all you feeble minded liberal arts people needed a spoon fed approach but it was already going on massively (although the breadth of material was severely limited) in 97/98.

I was too flip upthread, obv a lot of people HERE led the charge. Talking abt trends in the most general sense I was just trying to say digital music caught on with the "great unwashed" (aka spoonfed liberal arts majors) and attacted MSM attention right around the turn of the century 1999-2000. Didn't mean to dis early adopters.

But frankly, I hope we can come up with just one other new thing before the end of the decade.

One more genuinely new genre, please, someone? Anyone?

Couldn't you say that the noughties was when genre limits stopped mattering, and that in itself is the novelty of this decade? Or did that already happen in the late nineties?

What.

I think it doesn't get the props it otherwise would because everyone has dismissed the mash-up bits as a gimmick, or heard them too much and got tired of it.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/10/060110164416.p4z0rnx6.html

Yes, it's very easy to dismiss it, but I think this album played a massive part in influencing current rock and dance trends. A lot of tracks that featured on it have become huge classics in their own right since being featured on there (Danger, High Voltage etc). But yes, it's significant because as Tuomas said, it represents a true culmination of rock, pop, hiphop and dance whereas I think attempts at this kind of thing in the 90s all ended up sounding like Pitchshifter.