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TS: Keith Urban playing on Dick Clarke (now Ryan Seacrest) vs Brookes and Donne playing on Anderson Cooper...

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 January 2006 07:14 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno, but I was in a bar on Queens Boulevard during the CNN Brooks and Dunn part, and the sound was down with Ludacris playing for the dancers, and Brooks and Dunn sure looked cool singing that Ludacris song, though those scare lines about Palestinians and stuff (couldn't read the specifics from where I was standing) make things somewhat odd.

Anyway, this should be used for reference, obviously, or fun. It's best to start at the bottom, perhaps, and answer those questions here. Or there. Or wherever you want:

Rolling 2005 Country Thread

I'm still wondering if any of our Canadian friends have any thoughts about Bocephus King.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, now that it's next year, can somebody finally explain to me this mysterious sentence from the outset of last year's thread?

>The rolling 2004 country thread didn't even start until 2004, so i figured it best to get an early start...

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

[carryover from last thread]

yeah that anthony
hamilton errs mightily,
so not country now

the title track is
the best song on there but it
falls when it should rise

I still love his voice
and his lyrics aren't bad
but they've gone downhill

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

What '70s soul does he think he sounds like, Matt? I can't even figure that out. I think his voice is kind of average, not that much beauty in it, but maybe that's just me; I guess the main thing is that he connects to me emotionally not at all. (Happy New Ears, by the way!)

(Dang, three posts into the year, and we've always derailed it from country. It should be pointed out here that Anthony Hamilton's previous CD was one of Matt's '04 c&w faves.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

well that last album
WAS all country! (another
musical crush wrecked)

yeah happy new year
to you and everyone
who posts here. FURTHUR!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I would also like to ask our English friends for thoughts about Mercury Prize nominee KT Tunstall, whose imminent (here) *Eyes to the Telescope* (especially "Suddenly I See" and maybe "Miniature Disasters" and "Heal Over" so far; "Universe & U" kinda stinks) I have been enjoying this weekend in a sort of vaguely jazz-folky post-Laura Nyro/Rickie Lee Jones stewardess-pop (stole that idea from an old Xgau Quarterflash review!) sort of way, which is to say approx. 15 percent country maybe, though I could see her appealing to an '06 US country audience if they heard her. Have no idea how she's heard or thought of in England. If I pay closer attention to the words will I hate her? I am sort of scared of that.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

It was a typo.

er, that should read: "The rolling 2004 country thread didn't even start until October 2004..."
-- john'n'chicago (econjoh...), February 4th, 2005.

I'm listening to two tracks from Rosanne Cash's new one (a concept album about losing her parents) on her website. Has anybody heard the whole thing? So far, it sounds ok, loose drums on a song about the Cash house on the lake, Levenoisisms more taut than pillowy, and the other song, a very sweet piano ballad, about her mom and dad, "I'll Be Watching You." Chet Flippo says she's been listening to Arvo Part. I hope there are at least a couple rockers--because she's too good a singer to just do ballads.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 1 January 2006 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha ha, actually the 2004 thread seems to have started in April! But thanks.

I was wrong toward the end of the other thread in listing Eurodisco as part of Bocephus King's mix; really his extended synth parts are closer to a sort of techno space music, though not without a dance pulse (Joe McCombs compared those parts to Erasure in his AMG review.) Only a couple cuts seem to c&w per se, and those are more western than country -- Canadian cowboy music, maybe. Sometimes the rhythm goes reggae, and one song lilts a lot like "Lola" by the Kinks. The extended instrumental track is a sort of Sergio Leone soundtrack twang thing, and riveting. Really who B.K. most reminds me of maybe Garland Jeffreys (though maybe that's because I can't remember what Hirth Martinez or Andy Fairweather Low or whoever sounded like; I'm sure there's a more accurate precedent than Garland, just can't think of who it is.) Some songs seem to be about drug casualties, and the album clearly has some kind of ambitious overriding concept, too; Joe says it's about corrupt hucksters of religion (it's called *All Children Believe in Heaven*), but following concept albums has never been one of my skills; to me, it's just a bunch of great beautiful songs/tracks/whatever. Would've had a shot at my top ten had I heard it on time. Came out in Canada a year ago; if it comes out here some year, maybe I'll still vote for it.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

wahts the URL Roy, cause that sounds awesome

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 2 January 2006 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

The KT Tunstall tracks I don't like are probably more Natalie Merchant than to Nyro/Rickie Lee. Second most energetic and therefore likeable song after "Suddenly I See" (which is a real good dance track) might be "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree," with its sort of Diddley beat.

The Carrie Underwood track I really like that I didn't mention toward the end of the '05 thread is "The Night Before (Life Goes On)." And "Jesus Take the Wheel" is indeed a stellar car-crash song about being, um, saved. Edd Hurt signals out the Dianne Warren tracks, which I agree have a certain physical power to them, but I'm not sure if they have much *more* than that.

xhuxk, Monday, 2 January 2006 04:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, now that it's next year, can somebody finally explain to me this mysterious sentence from the outset of last year's thread?

>The rolling 2004 country thread didn't even start until 2004, so i figured it best to get an early start...

simple really. i do no fact, spell, grammar or punctuation checking before posting. nor do i ever re-read what i've typed to ensure that it makes any sense.

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Monday, 2 January 2006 05:37 (sixteen years ago) link

URLs for Rosanne tracks:
I Was Watching You:
House on the Lake:

Comes out Jan 24th, so I guess I should get on the phone to get an advance.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 2 January 2006 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm. That "I Was Watching You" track reminds me a lot of last year's Lesley Gore mini-comeback album, oddly enough.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Many of you have already seen this in your inboxes, but I thought it was worth posting here. The singles chart is pretty interesting. It's cool that the Lambert album sold as well as it did, but I'm surprised "Kerosene" didn't break the Top 50 singles. Actually, the album chart is interesting too, as 2004 and 2003 releases dominate. Is that typical?

From Geoff Himes at the Nashville Scene:

This is a friendly reminder that the deadline for the Country Music
Critics Poll is Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 11 p.m. A few of you have
already voted, but I'd like to encourage everyone else to vote as soon
as possible. If you have voted, you should have received a confirmation
from me that I got your ballot.

Several people have asked about eligible recordings, so I am including
Billboard's list of the year's best-selling country albums and singles
as well as the poll's leading vote getters in the early balloting.

(* released in 2004 or 2003)

1. * Shania Twain: Greatest Hits
2. * Rascal Flatts: Feels Like Today
3. * Toby Keith: Greatest Hits 2
4. * Gretchen Wilson: Here for the Party
5. * Tim McGraw: Live Like You Were Dying
6. George Strait: Fifty #1s
7. * Keith Urban: Be Here
8. Toby Keith: Honky Tonk University
9. * Big & Rich: Horse of a Different Color
10. * Sugarland: Twice the Speed of Life
11. Kenny Chesney: Be As You Are
12. * Kenny Chesney: When the Sun Goes Down
13. Faith Hill: Fireflies
14. * Alison Krauss & Union Station: Lonely Runs Both Ways
15. Various Artists: Totally Country Vol. 4
16. George Strait: Somewhere Down in Texas
17. * Brad Paisley: Mud on the Tires
18. Larry the Cable Guy: The Right To Bare Arms
19. Gretchen Wilson: All Jacked Up
20. Brad Paisley: Time Well Wasted
21. LeAnn Rimes: This Woman
22. * Blake Shelton: Barn & Grill
23. * Brooks & Dunn: Greatest Hits Collection II
24. Kenny Chesney: The Road and the Radio
25. * Martina McBride: Martina
26. Dierks Bentley: Modern Day Drifter
27. * Montgomery Gentry: You Do Your Thing
28. Trace Adkins: Songs About Me
29. Martina McBride: Timeless
30. * Jimmy Buffett: License To Chill
31. Jo Dee Messina: Delicious Surprise
32. Lee Ann Womack: There's More Where That Came From
33. * Toby Keith: Shock'n Y'All
34. * Josh Gracin: Josh Gracin
35. * Alan Jackson: What I Do
36. Brooks & Dunn: Hillbilly Deluxe
37. Miranda Lambert: Kerosene
38. Van Zant: Get Right with the Man
39. * Reba McEntire: Room To Breathe
40. * Alan Jackson: Greatest Hits Volume II
41. Trisha Yearwood: Jasper County
42. * Various Artists: Blue Collar Comedy Hour Rides Again
43. * Sara Evans: Restless
44. Craig Morgan: My Kind of Livin'
45. Cowboy Troy: Loco Motive
46. Sara Evans: Real Fine Place
47. * Terri Clark: Greatest Hits 1994-2004
48. Jason Aldean: Jason Aldean
49. * Dierks Bentley: Dierks Bentley
50. * SheDaisy: Sweet Right Here


1. Craig Morgan: That's What I Love About Sunday
2. Toby Keith: As Good as I Once Was
3. Rascal Flatts: Bless the Broken Road
4. Sugarland: Something More
5. Rascal Flatts: Fast Cars and Freedom
6. Josh Gracin: Nothin' To Lose
7. Sugarland: Baby Girl
8. Keith Urban: Making Memories of Us
9. Faith Hill: Mississippi Girl
10. Montgomery Gentry: Gone
11. Brad Paisley: Mud on the Tires
12. Brooks & Dunn: It's Getting Better All the Time
13. Kenny Chesney: Anything But Mine
14. Jo Dee Messina: My Give a Damn's Busted
15. Keith Urban: You're My Better Half
16. Dierks Bentley: Lot of Leavin' To Do
17. Montgomery Gentry: Something To Be Proud Of
18. Andy Griggs: If Heaven
19. Sara Evans: A Real Fine Place To Start
20. George Strait: You'll Be There
21. Joe Nichols: What's a Guy Gotta Do
22. Brooks & Dunn: Play Something Country
23. Jamie O'Neal: Somebody's Hero
24. Brad Paisley: Alcohol
25. Craig Morgan: Redneck Yacht Club
26. LeAnn Rimes: Probably Wouldn't Be This Way
27. Trace Adkins: Songs About Me
28. Blake Shelton: Some Beach
29. Keith Urban: Better Life
30. Josh Gracin: Stay with Me (Brass Bed)
31. LeAnn Rimes: Nothin' 'Bout Love Makes Sense
32. Tim McGraw: Do You Want Fries with That
33. Gretchen Wilson: Homewrecker
34. Alan Jackson: Monday Morning Church
35. Lee Ann Womack: I May Hate Myself in the Morning
36. Darryl Worley: Awful, Beautiful Life
37. Billy Dean: Let Them Be Little
38. Tim McGraw: Back When
39. SheDaisy: Don't Worry 'Bout a Thing
40. Lonestar: You're like Comin' Home
41. Gretchen Wilson: When I Think About Cheatin'
42. Van Zant: Help Somebody
43. Kenny Chesney: Keg in the Close
44. Rascal Flatts: Skin (Sarabeth)
45. Gary Allan: Best I Ever Had
46. Toby Keith: Honky Tonk U
47. Blake Shelton: Goodbye Time
48. Jason Aldean: Hicktown
49. Reba McEntire: He Gets That from Me
50. Neal McCoy: Billy's Got His Beer Goggles On


Ryan Adams: Jacksonville City Nights
Gary Allan: Tough All Over
Bobby Bare: The Moon Was Blue
Dierks Bentley: Modern Day Drifter
Big & Rich: Comin' to Your City
Deana Carter: The Story of My Life
Caitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell: Begonias
Rodney Crowell: The Outsider
Robbie Fulks: Georgia Hard
Mary Gauthier: Mercy Now
Jimmie Dale Gilmore: Come on Back
The Hacienda Brothers: The Hacienda Brothers
Merle Haggard: Chicago Wind
Shooter Jennings: Put the O Back in Country
Miranda Lambert: Kerosene
Patty Loveless: Dreamin' My Dreams
Martina McBride: Timeless
Delbert McClinton: The Cost of Living
James McMurtry: Childish Things
Brad Paisley: Time Well Wasted
John Prine: Fair & Square
Tom Russell: Hotwalker
Marty Stuart: Soul's Chapel
Gretchen Wilson: All Jacked Up
Lee Ann Womack: There's More Where That Came From
The Wrights: Down This Road
Dwight Yoakam: Blame the Vain
Adrienne Young: The Art of Virtue
Neil Young: Prairie Wind


Gary Allan: The Best I Ever Had
Dierks Bentley: Lot of Leavin' To Do
Caitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell: Don't Make It Better
Rodney Crowell: The Obscenity Prayer
Robbie Fulks: Georgia Hard
Mary Gauthier: Mercy Now
Merle Haggard: Where's All the Freedom
Shooter Jennings: Fourth of July
Toby Keith: As Good As I Once Was
Miranda Lambert: Kerosene
Patty Loveless: Keep Your Distance
Shelby Lynne: When Johnny Met June
James McMurtry: We Can't Make It Here
Joe Nichols: Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off
Brad Paisley: Alcohol
Keith Urban: Makin' Memories of Us
Gretchen Wilson: I Don't Feel Like Loving You Today
Lee Ann Womack: I May Hate Myself in the Morning
Lee Ann Womack: There's More Where That Came From
The Wrights: Down This Road
Dwight Yoakam: Blame the Vain

alphabetical order):

Terry Allen: Silent Majority
The Band: A Musical History
June Carter Cash: Keep on the Sunny Side
Johnny Cash: The Legend
David Alan Coe: Penitentiary Blues
Emmylou Harris: Heartaches & Highways
Charlie Poole: You Ain't Talkin' to Me
Doug Sahm: The Complete Mercury Masters
Shel Silverstein: The Best of
Son Volt: Retrospective
Various Artists: Good for What Ails You
Various Artists: Night Train to Nashville, Volume 2

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link


From: "Frank Kogan"
To: "Geoff Himes"
Subject: Re: Country Music Critics Poll Ballot
Date: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:37 PM

Hi Geoff - I either will or will not send along comments in a couple of days. I enjoyed the agony of having to eliminate great stuff more than ever this year. Obviously I didn't listen to a lot of reissues, and my oddball choice belongs predominantly to some other country than this one, but there was room, so why not? It's an amazing record.


1. Deana Carter -- The Story of My Life
2. Miranda Lambert -- Kerosene
3. Bobby Bare -- The Moon Was Blue
4. Jamie O'Neal -- Brave
5. Shooter Jennings -- Put the O Back in Country
6. Gary Allan -- Tough All Over
7. Lee Ann Womack -- There's More Where that Came From
8. The Mighty Jeremiahs -- The Mighty Jeremiahs
9. Little Big Town -- The Road to Here
10. Dierks Bentley -- Modern Day Drifter


1. Deana Carter -- "The Girl You Left Me For"
2. Miranda Lambert -- "Kerosene"
3. Shooter Jennings -- "4th of July"
4. Miranda Lambert -- "Bring Me Down"
5. Dierks Bentley -- "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do"
6. Miranda Lambert -- "Me and Charlie Talking"
7. Kentucky Headhunters -- "Big Boss Man"
8. Jo Dee Messina -- "Delicious Surprise (I Believe It)"
9. Toby Keith -- "Big Blue Note"
10. Little Big Town -- "Boondocks"


1. Various Artists -- Guitars of the Golden Triangle: Raw, Rare & Forgotten Archival Recordings from 1970's Shan State. Folk and Pop Music of Myanmar (Burma) Vol. 2
(believe it or not, this has a folk-rock, c&w, rockabilly, garage-rock influence)
2. Charley Poole and others -- You Ain't Talkin' to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music
3. David Allan Coe -- Penitentiary Blues
4. --
5. --


1. Gary Allan
2. Gene Watson
3. Toby Keith


1. Miranda Lambert
2. Deana Carter
3. Jamie O'Neal




1. Deana Carter
2. Miranda Lambert
3. Odie Blackmon


1. Big & Rich
2. Little Big Town
3. The Mighty Jeremiahs


1. Deana Carter
2. Greg Martin
3. James Wright (since you don't have a special spot for producers, I put him here)


1. Miranda Lambert
2. Shooter Jennings
3. Shelly Fairchild


1. Deana Carter
2. Miranda Lambert
3. Bobby Bare

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 02:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Real interesting that Cowboy Troy placed in the Top 50; I wasn't watching the Mediabase charts attentively this year, but when I did check, he'd be getting play on zero or one country station. I think he may actually have gotten a little more CHR Pop airplay.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but "That's What I Love About Sundays" as #1 selling single? Even if you hear past Craig Morgan's abject facelessness, what's left to hear? I guess it captures church-going as a pleasurable social almost secular experience, and that's interesting. But it seems totally anonymous to me.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link

A couple of last minute surprises on my own list: "Delicious Surprise" over "My Give A Damn's Busted." "Busted" is a tighter song, but "Surprise" has strange nooks and crannies, blues slide leading into a really loud yell, and the chorus pierces, gorgeous but lacerating, and momentarily more weirdly psychedelic in its harmonies than anything on the Big & Rick.

"If only I was the president, I'd paint the white house pink and never have to pay the rent."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I detest that Craig Morgan song. That's what I hate about country.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I am going to buy that Mighty Jeremiahs album tomorrow. Chuck was right that ND slept on it--and lately I can't get enough gospel.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Other dark horse surprise on my list was the Dierks Bentley album. I loved "Lot of Leavin" but pretty much dismissed the rest as lightweight and too comfortable in itself besides. But complaining about Dierks being lightweight is like complaining about Big & Rich being freaky. The lightness is the method, and it works well, most effectively - to my surprise - on the sensitive ballad that closes the album. Ballads bore me, but this being so light there was not much more than the beauty of the tune to contend with.

I will say that Dierks' being on a major meant there was money to throw at the recording, which may ultimately have been why his record held up for me more than the McQueen or the Maybelles, whose ideas were at least as interesting as Dierks'. Dierks' album had a nice round easy professional motion, and this motion spoke to my body.

xpost (as usual)

The Jeremiah alb is a killer guitar album, too.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link

And I surprised myself with how much I liked the O'Neal, which I'd sort of badmouthed in last year's thread. I'd say that Gary Allan had generally stronger songs, and he's a beautiful singer, but what works for him is to figure out how to approach a song and then just do it like that, consistently. Whereas O'Neal's music tends breathe a lot more freely. In the midst of the dramatic story of the stripper, she breaks into scat singing for no particular reason, but it works, as if the dance of the singing correlates somehow to the striptease. And this is important because it's the music and not the lyrics that make the case for the stripper's dance.

In general I like music that overspills its container, though for this to work well there has to be a good container in the first place.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Now to somehow get some Pazz & Jop comments on paper.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

In the last thread someone was asking if there were any country songs that were booty songs, have you heard (or rather seen) Trace Adkins "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk"?

It's like Black Oak Arkansas meets a (white) booty video with the Skynyrd 'turn it up' at the start and a bit of a techno backing thing. I've only seen it as a video and am wondering how it stands up as a song.

hannah, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

that sounds like the most amazing thing ever

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link

no big surprises on Geoff's list. I'd like to see Gary Allan win, but have a feeling it won't be him...maybe Deana?

and yeah, I did kinda like Carrie Underwood's "The Night Before" (that's the one about the girl leaving home, rhymes "Baton Rouge," "LSU" and "in my rearview?), but for me, that song demonstrates where that whole record falls down--every chorus just seemed *too* overblown and mannered to me, always going for the big place-name drama. She kind of gets around that on "I Ain't in Checotah" but it still feels like a couple of songs tacked onto each other to me, it almost works. I think the Diane Warren songs are better than the other ones they found for her, and seem to be about what happens after she gets successful, with the overblown drama a bit more, uhm, aestheticized I guess. "Wasted" isn't bad either, but I would've liked the record even more if they'd tried to lay back just a little bit. But that wouldn't have played into the whole drama of her ascension.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Frank Kogan: Great piece on Bare, I'm gonna get it now!

TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Bocephus King: Apparently, he is/was popular in Italy. Liked most of his previous album, The Blue Sickness, especially the one about "How Like A Prison Is This Town" (I think it's called, "Mess of Love").
Couldn't be arsed to put the effort into his concept album, howev. If I haven't already disposed of it, I'll give it another listen, though I don't think my tastes align with Xhuxx's anyway.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

re: KT Tunstall anybody going to see her show?

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Tue 1/17 at the Mercury Lounge? Probably. "Black Horse + the Cherry Tree" made my P&J singles ballot.

Huk-L: I hope you give the Bocephus King album a listen. My tastes don't align well with Xhuxk's, either.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Joseph, is "Black Horse and Cherry Tree" really about a horse asking KT to marry him, and she says no? That's what she seems to be singing about. Wacky! Though it would be even wackier if she said yes! Also, tracks # 2,3, and 8 have good power-ballad buldups, I have decided.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

And oh yeah, Bocephus's concept album takes no effort if (like me) you don't listen to it as a concept album. (Though Joe says he does.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

god, I had forgotten how Lou Reed-like Miranda Lambert's "Kerosene" is, wow. and figured out the opening guitar riff of Sara Evans's "A Real Fine Place" is exactly the same as the one Big Star uses on "February's Quiet" from their new album. except that "Real Fine Place" is infinitely a better song. as far as Trace and ba-donk goes, if there's a bar like the one in the video around here, I ain't seen it yet.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I would be totally shocked if Deana won. Totally. I'll bet half the voters never even got a chance to hear it. It was on an indie and got zilch airplay outside of Southern Cal (as far as I know), but it didn't register as "alternative" either so didn't really have a constituency. I think Gary has a chance. As a matter of fact, there's nothing that strikes me as an obvious winner, but I'm so ignorant - maybe it's clear that Crowell will win again, or Mary Gauthier (I was amazed to see her up at number two on the No Depression list).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

My money is on Womack. High profile, solid selling record and she'll own the trad vote, do well with the mainstream and probably get nods from the alt/Americana writers. I really really really hope Crowell doesn't win.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

My money is on Lee Ann Womack, who will do real well among both alt & pop critics (she scored huge in the CMAs AND scored on the No Depression chart.) Who else can say that? Bobby Bare might have an outside shot. I guess. But Lee Ann seems like a shoo-in to me.

woah, xp!! I swear I wrote my entire post before seeing Roy's!!

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I hacked your browser and stole your ideas. I type fast too. Where's don? I want to steal from him now.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, that's a good guess. Bare might win, just because he's a sentimental favorite, and OK, I've come around and think it's a really fine record too. Marty Stuart ought to be way up there too. I wonder about Deana, though, since I know a bunch of country fans who could care less about polls who are really into that record, so my sense is that it got out there, somehow, even though it's on Vanguard. dunno. and I wonder about Neil Young, think that'll make top five?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

is "Black Horse and Cherry Tree" really about a horse asking KT to marry him, and she says no?
Yup: Her black horse is Joni Mitchell's Coyote, I figure.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link

here's my ballot and welcome to it. the appearance of the second marty stuart album was a surprise to me too, but xhuxk's exhortations on its behalf made me re-listen to it today, and my original take on it -- pretty good but no souls' chapel -- still stands.

> 1. Marty Stuart and His Fabulous Superlatives, Souls' Chapel
> 2. Gary Allan, Tough All Over
> 3. Deana Carter, The Story of My Life
> 4. The Del McCoury Band, The Company We Keep
> 5. Ezequiel Peña, Nuestra Tradición: La Charreria
> 6. Jon Nicholson, A Little Sump'm Sump'm
> 7. Marty Stuart, Badlands
> 8. Freddy Fender & Flaco Jimenez, Dos Amigos
> 9. Dallas Wayne, I'm Your Biggest Fan
> 10. Jessi Alexander, Honesuckle Sweet
> 1. Gary Allan, "Best I've Ever Had"
> 2. Jo Dee Messina, "My Give a Damn's Busted"
> 3. Dierks Bentley, "Lot of Leavin' to Do"
> 4. Intocable, "Aire"
> 5. Lee Ann Womack, "I May Hate Myself in the Morning"
> 6. Del McCoury Band, "She Can't Burn Me Now"
> 7. Grupo Montez de Durango, "Quiero Saber de Ti"
> 8. Robbie Fulks, "Georgia Hard"
> 9. Bon Jovi, "Have a Nice Day"
> 10. Carrie Underwood, "Some Hearts"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 05:47 (sixteen years ago) link

whoops, left off lee ann womack from the albums list. oh well, she'll do just fine without my vote. this wouldn't have happened if she hadn't done that stupid song about the way to happiness or whatever.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe I missed something on the RC2K5 thread, but what's yr rationale on the BJ, Haikunym?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

have you heard that song?
it's more country than country
j.b.j. gots twang

i think he and bruce
were more "influential" than
the eagles (or kiss)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, okay, that's what I thought, I just kinda felt that it was more a case of Country drifting towards jbj than vice versa (though in the end, what's the diff?)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link


Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

So when is TOM PETTY gonna go country? That seems so natural to me.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

he already did!
all those 'southern accents'?
mike campbell! benmont tench!

plus xhuxk if he did
you would be 'i hate his voice,
it is SO LEADEN'

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Nah, I like Tom's voice (or at least I used to.) He's not leaden; he's nasal. Though I haven't kept up with him the past ten years or so, and wouldn't be surprised if he sings clunkier now than he did then. Anyway, I *know* he's always had country in his sound; that was my point. But has he ever crossed over to CMT? If so, I never noticed.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

did rob sheffield have tom petty the second worst singer of all time? i remember he had billy bragg first i think and that petty was way up there on the list.

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

worst album of the year: emerson drive contrified

sort of gentry or big and rich lite, sentimental, the usual problems with women, playing way beyond their leauge, and arythymic singing, an inability to keep the energy up and wow are the lyrics just awful:
for some red heat real fast picken turbo grass areosmith or cootton eyed joe a little star light moonshine down home party time and let it go with my countrfied show...

these people are from grand prarie alberta, i thnik, which means all of the (innumerable) southern/small town signifers strike me as posing without committing

grand prarie has got 60k people.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

it also has one of the least compotent covers of the devil went down to georgia, and an incredibly goopy daddy dying song...

(where is the coutnry about being broke and homeless even if you are a rig pig making 100k a year, i mean grand prarie is prime oil country, and with the insane prices, the drinking, the lack of housing, the fucking and the gambling, plus working 70 hour weeks, and thousands of people from newfoundland, you would figure there would be a whole subculture of oil songs...there is one by corb lund, but there should be more)

pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Carlene was cool, whatthehail, ever'body knows my scandals, at the Tribute To Johnny And June last year. Not like she wasn't into it, but a bit stoical, basically, and J and J would've understood (and been relieved she didn't spew pills all over the stage). Great having a rave-up with Al Anderson's guitar on an ancient Austin City Limits set, and the twofer CD Musical Shapes/The Blue Nun (or vice versa) has a lot of her best Nick-era, though really really needs remastering. Edd, have you heard Robben Ford's Tiger Walk, with Bernie Worrell? Don't know what I'd think now, but used to be quite the pick-me-up for us jaded record sto hos.

don (dow), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

The Poguetry In Motion EP is a marvellous thing, also; not sure where that's been reissued, but two of the four songs "Rainy Night In Soho" / "The Body Of An American" stand with their very best. The other two aren't too bad, either.

They're all now on the Rum Sodomy And The Lash CD. I used to own the EP on vinyl, and got rid of it somewhere along the line; nice to have those tracks again. I thought I had another EP, too, with "A Pair Of Brown Eyes" and "Muirshin Durkin" (one of their best tracks ever, now on the Red Roses CD), but AMG doesn't seem to list that anywhere, so it must be long forgotten. And I associate those two EPs with two Fear And Whiskey-era Mekons EPs I had copies of way back in my Army days (whilst reviewing both Red Roses and Fear and Whiskey for the Voice in my spare time): Crime And Punishment and Slightly South of The Border (not to mention the even greater and I assume rarer English Dancing Master, from a few years before, when not even critics cared about the Mekons) Why was I so quick to purge my shelves in those days? Sigh. I will likely never see them again.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

worst album of the year: emerson drive contrified

I really really wish those faceless dolts would go away.

Now playing: my sleeper pick for country (absurdly broadly defined) album of 2006: The Memory Band, Apron Strings on DiCristina. They've zenned into the Fairport tone and soul, the fiddle player is beyond awesome and "I Wish I Wish" is a beautiful transformation of a traditional ballad that's also the best possible fuck you to re-virginizing evangelicals everywhere.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:13 (fifteen years ago) link

my friend john, from grand prarie, said they were called 12 gauge, and he was there when they played school dances in whenby...

there first album cover featured shotguns...

i dont know the memory bands

pinkmoose (jacklove), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 08:14 (fifteen years ago) link

"Muirshin Durkin" was on the b-side of the 12" single of "A Pair of Brown Eyes" over here, not sure how these things came out in the States.

One still bumps into those old Sin Records era Mekons things over here now and again, I haven't played mine in forever, though I think fondly of them. I don't think I've ever even seen a copy of "The English Dancing Master", I don't think many of those CNT things ever made it far south, the indie distribution networks in early 1980s Britain weren't what they later became. I had half an idea that there had been a reissue of CNT-era Meeks stuff, perhaps that was just "The Mekons Story".

It seems that Greil Marcus was the only person alive who cared about "The Mekons Story" when it came out.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

dolly parton is playing in a casino in niagra falls this weekend--arent casinos for people who cant fill stadia?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I have the Mekons' "Original Sin" CD on Twin/Tone. I don't know, doesn't this contain some of the stuff you're looking for, Chuck? It has them doing "$1000 Wedding" and it looks like "Mr Confess" is from the English Dancing Master EP. The CD's a real bargain, all of "Fear and Whiskey" (which I probably like just a bit less than "Rock n Roll") plus some mostly great extra stuff. I mean I am not crazy about them doing the Parsons song but their heart's in the right place.

And, will point out that the entire Mandrell tribute "She Was Country....Cool" is pretty fine, LeAnn Rimes does fine with the filthy "If Lovin' You Is Wrong" (kinda skips over the line about "married men," like she didn't want to get into that too much!), Sara Evans avows how her gardener or dance instructor or husband, even, can eat "Crackers" in her bed any time, and Blaine Larsen sounds great too. Only clinker is Randy Owen, whose Alabama shit stunk up an otherwise great show, that Cropper tribute I mentioned upthread. Never could abide that stuff.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I think casinos are for just about every country star over the age of 50--with the exception of George Strait and Willie. And probably some others I'm forgetting. Oh yeah Haggard, though he plays them too.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, anthony--even big stars of the moment play casinos. I believe I saw some casinos on a montgomery gentry tour list a while back. the casinos have been lifesavers for a lot of them and for any number of old soul singers who are in tunica every other month, or used to be when I lived in memphis.

anne mccue's record, finally gave it a good listen. about a B. sometimes she rocks out and it works, sometimes it just sounds constrained and polite. pretty good overall but nothing to write home about that I hear. more hooks, baby, you got the looks...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

na she's got some good ballads,they're just restrained compared to the usually excellent rocker tracks (another plug: my take on "Coming To You" will be on PaperThin one of these days. Yeah, sometimes ZZ Top do a tour of nothing but casinos, and the Times had a thing about encountering Dylan in an Atlantic City casino, slot machine headz and all. But he still charges and gets the better rates, according to the piece, and he and Merle have been known to co-star in such establishments (he and Willie favor minor league ballparks, when togethering) And yeah, Dyl seems to like playing a ski bar one night, a hockey stadium he next, like these other guys apparently.

don (dow), Thursday, 16 November 2006 05:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I have the Mekons' "Original Sin" CD on Twin/Tone. I don't know, doesn't this contain some of the stuff you're looking for, Chuck? It has them doing "$1000 Wedding" and it looks like "Mr Confess" is from the English Dancing Master EP. The CD's a real bargain, all of "Fear and Whiskey" (which I probably like just a bit less than "Rock n Roll") plus some mostly great extra stuff

Not familiar with Original Sin. I've got a couple hodgepodgy odds-and-sods CDs (I Have Been To Heaven And Back: Hen's Teeth And Other Lost Fragments of Unpopular Culture Vol. 1 and Where Were You: Hens Teeth Etc Etc Vol. 2 that include sundry rare early tracks among sundrier live ones and so on; somewhere in storage I also have Punk Rock, I think it's called, where they entertainingly re-record a bunch of their punk-era stuff -- my Fear and Whiskey CD leaves that great album intact; a few of those early tracks also show up on the two-disc Heaven And Hell: The Very Best of the Mekons, which also has all I'll ever need of their widely acclaimed '90s and '00s stuff, which I've honestly never really understood the appeal of), but anyway, I think with those early EPs, I also miss the actual objects, you know? Though I do think they were doing their best music back then; my favorite album by them {used to have it on vinyl, now on CD} is 1980's The Mekons, a/k/a {for no reason I've ever figured out} Devils Rats and Piggies. And I actually found The Mekons Story fun back in the day; wish I'd kept my vinyl copy of that one too. I assume Lester Bangs liked it too, since he wrote the liner notes, in which he claimed it to be the best album in the world this side of Metal Machine Music and/or something by Black Oak Arkansas, I forget which. So blah blah blah. After Edge of The World, for me, they had more trouble holding my attention.

xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 16 November 2006 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, Original Sin has just about all their promo Sin sutt, incl some EP tracks that didn't make their way over here back in that era, although they may have adhered to some later collections. (Xgau describes it on his site, I think.) Also like Mekons' New York, though it
's on vintage ROIR cassette. Hopefully they've eventually cleaned up the sound (initial CDs, when they finally started doing those, sounded just like teh tapes). Liner notes by one xhuxk.

don (dow), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

On the pressing question of where Miley is from, according to Wikipedia she was born in Franklin and lives on her parents' farm (doesn't say where the farm is), went to Heritage Middle School in Thompson's Station, now has a private tutor. Around age 9 she lived in Toronto while her dad was on the series Doc.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

have we talked about kacey jones' "sings mickey newbury"?

pretty good, a bit genteel in the vocal department. really gets going about track 10 with "san franciscop mabel joy" and "you've always got the blues." who can tell me what the best newbury record from the '70s is? xgua gives neither one he grades in his '70s guide above B-. He says, "Never trust meteorological symbolism," and sure enough kacey jones' record has these rain sounds in it...

speaking of nashville humanist songwriters, bobby braddock has a new autobiography coming out, "down in oberndale," (pretty sure that's spelled correctly) which is pidgin southern for auburndale, fla., where he grew up. what are the great *songwriter* autobiographies?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty much the only songwriter autobiog I've read is Tom T. Hall, and I liked it quite a lot, though it's not up there with Ulysses S. Grant's Memoirs or Leon Trotsky's My Life.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats" has risen to number 16 on Billboard's Hot 100. I haven't been paying close attention, but I think the only country songs to go higher this year have been Rascal Flatts' "What Hurts The Most" and "Life Is A Highway."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I keep forgetting the lyrics to "Muirshin Durkin," so when I sing it to myself I go "Goodbye Russian cooking, I'm sick and tired of drinking." Which are excellent lyrics, though incorrect.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:00 (fifteen years ago) link

To my nonsurprise, Th' Legendeary Shack Shakers Pandelirium did not make the Plug Awards (for indie something-or-other) official ballot, despite my nominating it in the "Americana" category. I would have nominated the Electric Boogie Dawgz, but their alb was released last year. (I might nonetheless vote for it in the Country Critics poll, if there is one.) If there were any indies this year of the caliber of last year's Deana Carter, Jason Aldean, and Little Big Town, I don't know of 'em, but that may just be because I've paid so little attention.

And Pitbull's El Mariel didn't make the ballot in the "Hip-Hop" category. And Ms. Peachez "Fry That Chicken" didn't make the ballot under videos.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

some (maybe not all) indie country albums i ennjoyed more than legendary shack shakers' one this year by artists from A to L in the alphabet:

The Kentucky Headhunters – Flying Under The Radar (CBUJ reissue)*
Becky Hobbs – Best Of The Beckaroo Part 1 (Beckaroo reissue)
Shawn Camp – Fireball (Skeeterbit)
Hacienda Brothers – What’s Wrong With Right (Proper)
Terry Lee Bolton – American Man (MRC)
Alan Bros. Band – Brick By Brick (Alan Bros. Music)

New Bill Kirchen album sounds pretty dang good so far, too. Kentucky Headhunters just made the top 10 (not just country, everything) album list I submitted to the poll for my current employer. As did Leanne Kingwell's album, but we decided she's not country despite being indie right? As did Victory Brothers, who are definitely both, but they are not from A to L in the alphabet. As did Montgomery Gentry and Toby Keith, who are country but not indie (and Huck Johns, who may or might be country and/or indie, but probably not). And so on.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 17 November 2006 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link

And Dale Watson's album, which just missed making the top ten I just submitted (literally -- it got bumped at the last minute by an album by a reality show/sextape star with no musical talent; if I had done a top 11 instead, it would've been on there) is indie country too.

Bill Kirchen's album is more rock and soul and blues than anything I've heard by him before. Great title (and rocking title track): Hammer Of The Honky Tonk Gods. He does "Devil With A Blue Dress On" as a slow shuffle, closes with an Arthur Alexander song.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 17 November 2006 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link

have we talked about kacey jones' "sings mickey newbury"?

Oy vey. Me upthread:

I finally listened to this here Kasey Jones album of Mickey Newbury songs. Uggh. Useful if only to have all the worst versions of Newbury's songs in one place.

I think genteel is the best thing you can say about it. To my ears it's basically Mancini Americana, with a vocalist who may as well be parsing a phone book from Kazakistan, for all she seems to understand what she's singing.

The best Newbury album from the '70s remains Frisco Mabel Joy (and the tribute to that album that came out a few years ago >>>> than this Kacey Jones record). Most of his '60s and '70s stuff gets swamped in confused, faux-Sherrill arrangements (and I love real Sherrill), so buyer beware. But Mabel Joy is classic. Also, the double album, Live at Montezuma Hall anticipates his most intense and purely beautiful album, from the late '90s, the solo/live Nights When I Am Sane. This is not background music; he sings the living fuck out of every line.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

This is like Freaky Friday or something. Totally agree with xhuxk on the new Kirchen. Good song selection too.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't heard any on Chuck's indie list, and I can well believe they're better than th' Legendary Shack Shakers. Here are the Plug "Americana" nominees (in alphabetical order); the only one I've heard in full is the undeserving A Blessing And A Curse:

Alejandro Escovedo - The Boxing Mirror (Back Porch)
Band Of Horses - Everything All The Time (Sub Pop)
Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - The Letting Go (Drag City)
Calexico - Garden Ruin (Quarterstick)
Califone - Roots & Crowns (Thrill Jockey)
Drive-By Truckers - A Blessing And A Curse (New West)
Eef Barzelay - Bitter Honey (SpinART)
Horse Feathers - Words Are Dead (Lucky Madison)
Jenny Lewis w/ The Watson Twins - Jenny Lewis w/ The Watson Twins (Team Love)
Jolie Holland - Springtime Can Kill You (Anti-)
M. Ward - Post-War (Merge)
Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings The Flood (Anti-)

(the Plug Independent Music Awards link, if you're interested in voting.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Tom T. Hall's The Storyteller's Nashville may or may not be the autobio Frank's referring to, but it's really funny, and has good serious stuff too. And gives some backstory on various songs. Although, for instance, "Harper Valley PTA" seems to have come loose from a lost weekend's drunken onslaught, and some of the better later anecdotes end with "And that's how I wrote 'Sneaky Snake,'" or some shit, so the gradual creative burn-out, or boredom, or crank out so much stuff you lose touch with qualty control, becomes evident (although it wouldn't if I didn't know the music, cos the book itself is good all the way through). I like his 80s novel Springhill, Tennessee (about the coming of a Saturn plant, and thus the Japanese, and the Yankee auto-workers tryin' to steal our jobs)Real good piece by Dave Hickey in the November Harper's, "It's Morning In Nevada." He travels the state with a Greek-American from Georgia, a female poly sci prof and state senator who's running for Gov. in the Democratic primary. Goes way into Las Vegas culture and its relation to desert culture and how they relate to rest of West and USA.(And the then-future Midterms, in effect.) Distinctive place, distinctive Dave! (He shows a way past the received view that seeps even or especially into outlying bloglands, and yet his way pertains, more so than ever, in fact)

don (dow), Friday, 17 November 2006 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Correction: Nights When I Am Sane is not solo; Jack Williams joins in on acoustic lead guitar. Recorded at the Hermitage Ballroom in Nashville around '93 or so. It'll wreck you from first note to last.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

This is like Freaky Friday or something. Totally agree with xhuxk on the new Kirchen

Well, actually...Freaky Friday must be over now because the Kirchen album's sounding a lot duller to me today than it was a couple days ago. Just kinda stodgy and slow and colorless, and the title track doesn't really kick all that hard after all, and why the hell would anybody want to slow down "Devil With a Blue Dress On," come to think of it? So right now, I'm on the fence, but maybe it'll kick back in, or maybe it won't. What basically keeps happening is, well, it's in the five-disc changer now with the Game (clunky rap voice, ocassionally tasty and tasteful retro-soul backup, sounds very Dr. Dre a lot of it no matter what Dre's involvement was or wasn't, but I never gave much a shit about Dre give or take a couple songs so I doubt I'll have much more patience with this thing), Yabby You (who sounds warm and dubby and greater than I would have guessed), Borat (just saw the movie, which was slightly disappointing though still frequently hilarious but maybe the disappointment was just that it had been built up so much by so many people, but at any rate i also just realized today that the soundtrack is a compilation, and track #7 is beautiful, and i think it's by o.m.f.o. but it's hard to tell because there are not the same number of titles on the cover as tracks on the cd, since some of the tracks are just snippets of dialouge and stuff, so you can't just count down to the seventh title, which is "grooming pubis", and also "o kazakhastan" which ends the movie sounds more like laibach than most of the national anthems on laibach's own new album) and joe gruschecky (ex of the iron city houserockers, and his new album features bruce springteen on a few tracks and while i have no doubt that this album must blow out of the water that springsteen seeger covers album which must be the most boring idea for an album of the year even though i didn't listen to the thing since life is too fucking short, but gruschecky is still not writing them like he was in 1980 or 1981 and his band barely rocks at all, dude really needs to befriend kenny aranoff or somebody, though sometimes there's some passable drama in joe's oily sobersided sincerity and the guitar buildups in a way that a couple of the tracks like "safe at home" for instance might sound decent in a "rescue me" episode or perhaps a scene from "the wire" with mcnulty fucking up again), and oftimes when a kirchen song comes on i think it's gruschecky by mistake, which is frankly not a good sign.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yay here is another amazing Spanish-language country-tinged record for you all to ignore: Osé, two young guys who I think are brothers but haven't read the stuff very closely, with their album Seras; very Bruce Cougar Bongiovi en español but with a lovely light-pop feel, pretty voices to go with their pretty-boy faces, very nice

and the more I hear of the new Intocable album Cruce de Caminos a.k.a. Crossroads the more I fall in love with it. Johnny Lee Rosas might have the best voice in America, because it's not quite perfect but DAMN he delivers the goods. hilariously, when they do a "pop" version of huge hit single "Por Ella," it lays on the country signifiers so thick that I think maybe they actually consider modern country to be the real sound of "pop" in the U.S. but sadly for y'all, it's all in Spanish, so you won't really care about it. (P.S. I am an asshole tonight.)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link


The Game and Gruschecky now replaced in the changer with Fairyland (French-I-think metal band on Napalm) and new Ying Yang Twins.

"One More Day" on the Kirchen album does have a nice Dock Boggs era white country blues feel to it, I guess. And I do like the Arthur Alexander cover. So I haven't written the thing off quite yet.

I've been considering springing for the Intocable CD, actually. I probably won't mind the Spanish of it if the tunes are catchy enough.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"Working Man" and "Soul Cruisin'" very nice on the Kirchen album too. I should just shut my mouth and stop second-guessing everything.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

if you heard anything off Diez, Chuck, you'll know exactly what Crossroads sounds like: these songs are unimpeachable. they're not exactly fiery like norteño can be or hyperactive like banda, but they are smooth and well-crafted...and that accordion...

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a vague memory of being underwhelmed by the last Intocable album I heard, actually. Possibly too subtle for my fiery tastes. But what I've read about the new album intrigues me regardless.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

well you might not like it, because we sometimes don't agree; but I love this one the way I loved "Diez," so I'll vouch for it. it's kinda long though, 15 tracks/57 minutes! plus a DVD with videos and making-of mini-doc! a great value for $12.95 at Circuit City!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

plus i am an idiot, singer is Ricky Muñoz

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

also, holy crap, that "pop" version of "Por Ella" is produced by Lloyd Maines! on the DVD, he says "I'd never heard of Intocable before this project, but I've told a lot of my friends and they were all like OH SNAP THEY ARE AWESOME"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

kinda long though, 15 tracks/57 minutes! plus a DVD with videos and making-of mini-doc!

Sounds like a hell of a lot of work to get through...(What do they think they are, a hip-hop group or something?) (I hate great values!)

Kirchen's "Hammer of The Honky Tonk Gods" title cut kicks (or at least "signifies kicking") in a Junior Brown kind of way, I guess. There's something sorta deluded about it -- half of Nashville rocks harder; hell, Kellie Pickler might rock harder -- but it's not bad.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

It's only hard to get through if you have a heart of stone, Chuck! Whatever happened to taking a break halfway through, having a sandwich, and then coming back to it?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link

is anyone watching the big reba special, cause i think im going to blog it!

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link

saw reba talking to megan mullaly (sp?) yesterday. couldn't really watch more than 10 secs of it, tho. reba makes me nervous, like there's a prize rabbit or some kind of exotic rodent people keep as a pet squirming around in the bathroom with me. i know this is irrational. she sings good and at times i have enjoyed her and i think i've watched almost all of one episode of her sitcom.

kirchen's record has the same faults as his show i saw this fall. he's real good for about two songs. his supposedly awesome guided tour of pop where he interpolates all the licks he knows is actually pretty great, but seemed empty even with a couple beers in me. you kind of wish he'd go johnny guitar watson and write more songs about more interesting and perhaps raffish reality. the songs blur in my mind. the curse of reverence and "americana" and all that, but he's been at it for a while just like nick lowe, who used to write about more interesting and raffish reality but now is a very good genre artist. we all love arthur alexander, man. (i love nick lowe, but the last record of his i found remotely interesting was "party of one," which is what, 1990?)

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

So I figured out with 95 percent certainty the track #7, my favorite (and probably the most pop, thanks to the sweet-voiced lady singer) track on the Borat soundtrack, is "Eu Vin Acasa Cu Drag" by Stefan De La Barbuletsi, which originally supposedly appeared on AMMRA Records S.R.I. The other legit/non-Borat-sung tracks (apparently middle eastern and or eastern European, though maybe or I assume not usually Kazakh per se) are consistently really good, too, and first came out on labels like Piranha, Essay, Crammed Discs, World Connection, etc. O.M.F.O., who made an album I liked a couple years ago, have two tracks, which I'm pretty sure are tracks # 10 and 12. The only really confusing thing if you sit down with a pen and paper is that there seem to be three "real songs" between Borat's "You Be My Life" at # 13 and his "O Kazazhstan" at # 18, but only two titles between them. Which makes tracks #14 throuh #16 somewhat mysterious (since #17 is Borat high-fiving a gay-bashing redneck of some sort).

(Hey Frank brought the album up! I guess I should put all this on the world music thread too. I'm not sure what it has to do with country, though yeah, there's a twang in the music now and then, and didn't one of you guys vote for Gogol Bordello in a Nashville Scene poll once? This CD belongs on a shelf near them, Kultur Shock, Balkan Beatbox, etc, unless like me you file in alphabetical order.)

And my new maybe-favorite on Kirchen's CD is "Skid Row in My Mind."

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

(i love nick lowe, but the last record of his i found remotely interesting was "party of one," which is what, 1990?)

ha ha, for me it was labour of lust in 1979! (though i guess i gave nick the knife or whatever a fairly mixed review for my college paper in missouri when it came out, a few years later.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

So yeah, in the end, I'd say the Kirchen album squeaks by more on its real good song selection than its better-than-competent performances (and singing). But it still bats at least .500 in my book. I even wound up liking the track called "Heart of Gold," which is not a "Heart of Gold" I've known before. (It's credited to one T. Johnson). Best original is "One More Day," which turns out to be more Bob Wills than Dock Boggs, more Western swing than white blues. Anybody know who Blackie Farrell, who wrote "Skid Row In My Mind," or J. New, who wrote "Soul Cruisin'," are? They're both really great. "Devil With A Blue Dress" is totally dreary in this version, though maybe I'd forgive it here if I didn't grow up on Mitch Ryder.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

speaking of things eastern european, darko rundek & cargo orkestar's "mhm a-ha oh yeah da-da" from this year is really nice. sort of croatian (?) hedonism. hints of pere ubu and beefheart but it also evokes august darnell if he were from croatia and living in paris. very unusual tone. "wanadoo" is one of the best things i've heard this year.

ghostfinger, a nashville (actually murfreesboro, tn.) band, does really cool country-rock pastiches. the singer sounds like jagger or arthur lee or some white guy trying to be soulful, and it's mostly funny. they get doleful and sometimes the rockers don't quite work, but "moon" alternates sections of fake-rock and country-rock quite effectively. can't make out what it is they're exactly trying to express, but get the feeling they're a bit more than the usual history lesson. it's been a good year for nashville pop bands--lone official, the features, ghostfinger and i guess lambchop, too, have all released good records. certainly, lone official's "tuckassee take" made my no depression top 20 new releases.

and i have to say that i've listened to neko case's record (which also made my ND list) as much as i have anything this year; the songs are better than i initially thought, and she sustains a *mood* throughout that sorta skirts desolation--the line about driving past the beautiful flooded fields resonates as they say with my experience. and it's one of the great records in 6/8, a time signature she manipulates savvily and which suggests, i guess, the timelessness (or the immersion in memory) she's going after.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Darryl Worley album on this week's AOL listening party, though I'm not going to get the chance to hear more than a couple of tracks before I fly to Connecticut tomorrow. Track one he equates drinking and being free of his old record label (he presents both as positives). Track two uses acoustic blues for good sharp riffs.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, Neko made my ballot too. It under-achieves but what it achieves is still her own.

So this Dixie Chick flick, Shut Up and Sing, is playing in town. Should I go? That whole brouhaha seems like decades ago.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 23 November 2006 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link

its done by the woman who did harlan county usa, so its got a good pedigree

did the ND Ballots go out already?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks Anthony. I'll go this weekend (I'm supposed to see Casino Royale tonight, but maybe I'll talk my date into the Chicks Flick). ND Best Of voting is just for regular contributors, mostly Contributing Eds and Senior Eds, but they expanded the comment section this year beyond just the latter--which is cool.

Do we know yet if the Scene poll is dead? Is Himes gonna do it elsewhere? I mean, he's got the rolls...

And I know this has been chattered about elsewhere, but I never got a clear answer: what's to become of Pazz n Jop?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

New George Strait album Twang. The First single "Living For The Night" is so classic. Any thoughts?

Jacob Sanders, Friday, 14 August 2009 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

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