The Liars - Drum's Not Dead (2006)

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totally excited for this. on the first track. definitely plan on picking it up when it hits the stores for the videos.

Liars forthcoming album DRUM'S NOT DEAD was partly inspired by the band's relocation from NYC to Berlin. It finds Liars taking another seismic step forward, switching continents and seizing new musical territory. It's also their finest and fullest album to date, shredding all past reference points. No more Post Rock, Punk-Funk and No Wave clichés. The Atlantic Ocean certainly puts clear blue water between Liars and narrow, outdated NYC scene labels. DRUM'S NOT DEAD marks a major shift for Liars to rank alongside Brian Wilson's wilder sonic journeys, or Radiohead's embrace of experimental abstraction. Tracks like "Drum And The Uncomfortable Can" build to a symphonic crescendo of brooding, brutal intensity. And yet the album ends with "The Other Side of Mt.Heart Attack", the most perversely conventional and unashamedly beautiful Liars track ever written. The calm after the storm, quietly moving and totally unexpected. DRUM'S NOT DEAD comes loaded with its own cinematic sister project: 36 short films, three for each track,all included on the standard album CD.From backstage travelogues to surreal animation and mini sci-fi epics, Liars document the process of recording, touring, then visually reinventing each track. It's an ambitious and groundbreaking expansion of the CD format, throwing down the gauntlet for other creatively ambitious bands to follow suit - the sound of a band redrawing their own creative horizons.

― jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 17 December 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link

malarkey or effective-way?

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Saturday, 17 December 2005 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Tracks like "Drum And The Uncomfortable Can" build to a symphonic crescendo of brooding, brutal intensity. And yet the album ends with "The Other Side of Mt.Heart Attack", the most perversely conventional and unashamedly beautiful Liars track ever written

This sounds like... Xiu Xiu?

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Saturday, 17 December 2005 06:10 (eighteen years ago) link

funnier cover

― frickin' username (fandango), Saturday, 17 December 2005 06:12 (eighteen years ago) link

shit, this kinda sucks so far. and i loved the last one.

― pinder (pinder), Saturday, 17 December 2005 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, the last one sucked, this is brilliant

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 December 2005 09:06 (eighteen years ago) link

It's pretty good!

― Simon H. (Simon H.), Saturday, 17 December 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

the last one was brilliant. haven't heard this one yet, but i can't wait. but is that the press release? it blows.

― the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 December 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

spacemen 3

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 December 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

ok i've changed my mind, the last half picks up nicely. "Drum and the Uncomfortable Can" is a great doom and gloom track.

― pinder (pinder), Saturday, 17 December 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

its pretty good.

― Stephen C (ihope), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not sure if i want to download this.
the last album was my favorite album of 2004, and the new single is fuckin' awesome. plus i want the video's. when's the release date?

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG want to hear this.

― [jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it's supposed to come out in february

― jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

but is that the press release? it blows.

yeah, totally. radiohead? brian wilson? wtf?

― jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Is this album more "ordinary" than the last? I like the direction they took with that after a pretty boring debut.

― Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, it's even more dronier than the last one. last one at least had remnants of "threw us in a trench" with tracks like "room on the broom" or "they don't want your corn". this album is more like the broken witch or flow my spider tracks

― pinder (pinder), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

this one is more melodic than anything they've ever done

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Great. I love melodies.

― [jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe ill actually like the liars

― howell huser (chaki), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I love a lot of the Liars work, but to claim that they will "rank alongside Brian Wilson's wilder sonic journeys" is just absurd. Look forward to listening to it regardless.

― Dan Floss (Dan Floss), Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link

tell me more abt the spacemen 3 connection, cutty.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:42 (eighteen years ago) link

The name of this band is Liars. No 'the'. Not a tough concept.

― Reggie, Sunday, 18 December 2005 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

are you reggie q of hanson/ameritapes list fame?

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 18 December 2005 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link

There are two kinds of people in the world: People who hate Wolf Eyes and liars

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 December 2005 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link

There are two kinds of people in the world: People who think there are two kinds of people and everyone else.

― nancyboy (nancyboy), Sunday, 18 December 2005 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Ouch, I think Liars are great. But for some time I've been ranting that the Beach Boys and Radiohead are among the most overrated bands ever.

Hope there aren't any harmonies

― bendy (bendy), Sunday, 18 December 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Stupid person in "saying stupid things about the Beach Boys and Radiohead" shockah.

― The Wanderers' Wandering Daughter (noodle vague), Sunday, 18 December 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Stupid people, sorry.

Anyway, Liars seem to have been saddled with a press office that keeps banging on about how they're not part of a scene ever since they started. It doesn't stop their music being consistently wonderful. I'm hyped for this one.

― The Wanderers' Wandering Daughter (noodle vague), Sunday, 18 December 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link

this is very Animal Collectivy

― Rizz (Rizz), Sunday, 18 December 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

really, it's not

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 December 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

oh it is

― Rizz (Rizz), Sunday, 18 December 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i hear it a little more after your comment. but there isn't hardly any guitar on this album, and so much of animal collective's sound is that heavily effects laden guitar shit.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 December 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah that's true but its more the tribal percussion vibe that reminds me of them

― Rizz (Rizz), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

implying your previous work was "cliched" doesn't do a lot for your credibility, really.

― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

well, when you "shred" all past "reference points" nothing else matters, really.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm so sick of animal collective and i haven't even listened to them that extensively.

― the people are such untight s wads (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Does that mean you also don't believe in Peter Pan?!?! Merry Holidays indeed!

― nancyboy (nancyboy), Monday, 19 December 2005 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link

inspired by the band's relocation from NYC to Berlin.

maybe this is the first installment in a TRILOGY OF CLASSIC COCAINE PARANOIA ALBUMS!!

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 19 December 2005 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Peter Pan loves The Coke--Fairy Dust?!?!

― nancyboy (nancyboy), Monday, 19 December 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~csakuda/tinkerbell.jpg

― nancyboy (nancyboy), Monday, 19 December 2005 11:53 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish that was the cover.

― bob abernethy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 19 December 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link

http://prodtn.cafepress.com/nocache/2/20260022_F_tn.jpg

― [jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

on first listen, this is pretty cool. it strikes me as being a little like the raincoats' odyshape, if the last record was like a slates/flowers of romance combo. i mean, whatever. i guess i dont NEED to find it an antecedent. i sort of wish it were a little more *bracing*, like the last one. but im totally into mumbly.

― petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 19 December 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm so excited for this! i dearly hope it's good. they were wrong...is one of my favs of recent years.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 December 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

"perversely conventional"!

― [jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Monday, 19 December 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

If you did not like No Flashlight, it might sound better after you listen to this.
worst 2006 leak so far.

― mox twelve (Mox twleve), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

though No Flashlight sounds bad no matter what.

― mox twelve (Mox twleve), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

"The Other Side of Mt.Heart Attack" really does sound like Radiohead.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

no, spacemen 3

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

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T. Weiss, maybe you have the vinyl version like I do?

― mikko (mikko), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you in Europe? I heard that Mute's Can reissues were copy-protected, at least in Europe (my US copies work fine). Hopefully this isn't the case; it would suck and suck hard for an indie to start putting copy-protection on their releases.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 3 April 2006 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm in the U.S. It's really weird because I played it like three times then a couple of days later I insterted it and its not even recognized (its a version with the dvd). Its pretty maddenning since this is how I listen to most of my music. Any advice?

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

do all other cd's play fine?

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Monday, 3 April 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

suck hard for an indie

owned by EMI

― jeff rosenberg (pukeandburn), Monday, 3 April 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

owned by EMI

Really? Did not know that. That's worrying, then.

Is there a Philips Compact Disc logo anywhere on the packaging? And does anyone else have this issue? I was going to buy Drum's Not Dead over the weekend, but if it's at all copy-protected then I'm going straight to p2p.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

mine wasn't copy protected at all. there's probably something wrong with the weiss guy's pc.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link

there's probably something wrong with the weiss guy's pc.
if this is the case, does any one have any suggestions, as its my primary use for playing music. all of my other cds play fine.

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Only after the first time I took it out of my computer did I have any problem, I didn't however notice any Philips logo.

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link

isn't this some "enhanced" cd with a billion videos on it? (not a DVD?)

not to get tech support on you but some exact details of how it's going unrecognised, error messages & such could be useful. also, do they have a forum or anything? I'd expect more than one person to have had this problem, you might want to look there.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 07:43 (eighteen years ago) link

when i put it in my computer, i can see that there is, apart form the audio files, also a jpg of the cover on the cd. i guess that's a way to make it copy-protected.

― thomas, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 07:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Depends what ripping program you use, I have no problem ripping the audio (but not the data files) with Exact Audio Copy. How iTunes etc handles it all I have no idea...

I'm surprised you can't see the video files (got "show hidden files" unticked in tools>folder options?) but I've had problems myself on some discs being able to access multimedia stuff with obscure ways of presenting itself.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link

i ripped mine with creative media source or something like that. i listened to it in itunes a few times, too.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i've had no problems playing/ripping my copy in my pc. there's no compact disc logo anywhere to be found, but i think "brilliant box" packaging generally doesn't have the logo in its usual place (the disc tray). oh, and no videos on the cd -- why would there be when the album comes with a dvd?

― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

The CD won't even be recognized in my drive. When I get info on my D Drive, it says 0 mbs free and 0 mbs used. Very frustrating.

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe your cd is damaged?

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

just buy it on vinyl geniuses

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The only way to tell is to try it on another drive or another CD player. It's the scientific method. Observation: disc is unrecognized. Hypothesis: the disc is fucked. Prediction: the disc will fail on any CD player. Experiment: Try disc on another CD player. If disc works, disc is not fucked. New observation: computer disc player is inconsistent at best.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

"My room has been plunged into darkness. Is my light bulb dead?? What should I do????"

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Well I tried it other cd players, and it works fine. Just won't play on my computer anymore (haven't had a chance to try it on other computers)

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Are we really through with this album already? Really? I'd say Radiohead have some competition when they return.

― honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Sunday, 23 April 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

aren't they touring now or very soon?

― nervous.gif (eman), Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, they're playing Seattle June 10.

― honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i love this album.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think they're going to trouble Radiohead much in the songwriting department...

But sonically, I hear what you're saying.

I'm v.much hoping Radiohead have some surprises left in them, but also fearing they won't :(

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Of all the comments on this thread, Dog Latins original take is spot on.

― mei (mei), Sunday, 30 April 2006 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

swinging through australia this week. they're playing new stuff in their set which is of a more sraightahead rock direction, according to street press interview I read.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Sunday, 30 April 2006 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I would just like to say that I still don't think this album can compete with Tago Mago or Can in general, and for that reason I appreciated Melissa's post above (along with an awful lot of February posts above - I really missed out!). But it's still pretty damn cool. Whoever first said it was related to Flowers of Romance, I can see that too, without Lydon's stamp of individuality, that is.

― honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Sunday, 30 April 2006 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

from radiohead's blog thingy...

happy easter

liars >drums not dead
berlin must be a good place to work

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Monday, 1 May 2006 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Are we really through with this album already?

not at all. my album of the year by some way, so far. mind, i don't feel i'm doing a good job keeping up with new stuff at all right now.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

parts of this album seem to have a coil-scatology influence.

― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Thom often has suspect taste in music. Kinda want to shake him for seeing anything in this album. But ah well.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

why? this album's great!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

One of my favorites this year. Still listening to it almost weekly. That Thom's got a good ear, Mel! Even the EPs are decent. (Great artwork, too:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000E5L8BQ.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_V57053822_.jpg

RAHHHHH!!!)

― Ryan Pitchfork (Ryan Pitchfork), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's a really great album, with Booka shade it's one of only two new albums I've listened to extensively this year.

That EP cover seriously rocks.

― jimnaseum wastes the taxpayer's money, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link

yes awesome cover

― sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

it seems someone has been listenig to Byzantum per mayhaps?

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I had this playing quietly while driving at about one in the morning and the others in the car thought it sounded like music to sleep to. It's kind of true, though.

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...

still love this album.
i found a pretty sweet video of them doing a nirvana cover, but can't seem to find it now.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

argh, thanks for reminding me that I still haven't gotten my copy back from the friend I lent it to

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i still can't get into this album but they were absolutely great live a month or so ago

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I like this a lot, and hated all their previous stuff.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Still really glad I heard this but that whole weak concept-instead-of-songs thing got underwhelming real fast. Pretty easy to delete.

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"It Fit When I Was A Kid" excepted...

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I really did not enjoy their live show at all. it was basically identical to the record, except with a really smelly dude somewhere in close proximity to me

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

live show I saw was just so-so until the encore, then "Broken Witch" blew my head open ... made the whole thing worth it

― dmr (Renard), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

def. one of the best records of the year. all NY hipster post-punk bands need to move to Berlin and record in old communist radio studios and become infatuated w/ the idea of "the drum".

― La Monte (La Monte), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

The DVD with it, which I initially assumed to contain videos for three different songs, actually contains three different videos for the entire album!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:26 PM

i thought the same and had totally forgotten that disc was there until the other day when i skimmed through it. very ambitious, so used to getting lame bonus shit with cds (lol interactive cd-roms?) and this really pisses on all that

― am0n, Thursday, 3 September 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

(face with heart-eyes emoji)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAz_9GX-hsI

― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link

think emojis work here, don't they? let's give it a go.

😍

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

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