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This hasn't been done already, has it? So let's talk about some of those Touch & Go bands that don't ever get mentioned anywhere else. And sure, the big ones too, if you like.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I wanted to start a Storm & Stress thread, but thought that it might be better to open things up a bit.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:13 (eleven years ago) Permalink

this has never been done? for real?

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I couldn't find it. A shocking injustice I feel.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Of course, I could just be being blind.

Here's the current catalogue. There's a bunch of things there I've never even heard of before. Who are The Standard? Flesh Columns? Blight?

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

it's an easy list. search these:


necros (everything)

jesus lizard (everything)

no trend (everything)

negative approach (everything)

die kreuzen (everything)

rapeman (budd)

slint (spiderland)

silver fish (cockeye)

dirty three (dirty three)

meatmen (we're the meatmen and you suck)

girls against boys (house of gvsb)

mekons (i heart mekons)

scratch acid (beserker)

shellac (at action park & 1000 hurts)

big black (everything)

the ex (everything)

and a couple of other things here and there. but those are the essentials.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

No Laughing Hyenas?

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

and to get it down to the very root of essential, if you buy all necros, negative approach, big black, and die kreuzen, you are good to go.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Like i said, once you have the essentials, there are lots of other records worth hearing. I will let other people list those. Heck, I was listening to Tar yesterday! When was the last time anyone listened to Tar? It was their Jackson album. And it is not essential.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I dug out the first Tar album about six months ago! I don't know why. It was solid, I thought, but sort of dull. I do remember them being quite amazing live though, the one time I caught them.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'd include the Laughing Hyenas, esp the first three. I'd also include the Didjits - not all of them, maybe just Fizzjob and Hey Judester.

TRG (TRG), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

No Killdozer?

Blonde Redhead (everything)

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Skull Kontrol mothafuckaz!

ZR (teenagequiet), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

http://www.tgrec.com/images/catalog/fullsize/340-1.jpg
tracks:
"Eindhoven Chicken Masque" by Butthole Surfers
"Sweet Home Alabama" by Killdozer
"The Final Kiss" by Scratch Acid
"Down By the River" by Hose
"Colors in the Rain" by Happy Flowers
"Every Man for Himself" by Big Black
"Crack Up" by Big Black
"All I Got Were Clothes for Christmas" by Happy Flowers
"How Many More Times" by Hose
"Holes" by Scratch Acid
"Sonnet" by Killdozer
"The Legless Eye" by Butthole Surfers

O RLY? (eman), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

!!!
Polvo
Dirty Three
Blonde Redhead
Tara Jane O'Neil
Pinback
TV on the Radio
Brainiac
Enon

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, Skull Kontrol. They were great. Also, the Monorchid.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Nina Nastasia!

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

destroy: ¡¡¡ ,TV On The Radio, CocoRosie, Delta 72, Quasi, Arsenal, Rollins talking

O RLY? (eman), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Who are The Standard? Flesh Columns? Blight?

In order: Fairly average gothy indie rock types who are now on Yep Roc I think; no idea; 'arty' pisstake sideproject of Tesco Vee who did one virtually impossible to find 7"

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I have the first Die Kreuzen album, which is great, and 'Gone Away' from several years later which I thought was awful. What am I missing of their evolution from hardcore in the middle of these two records?

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Nina Nastasia seconded. Excellent. Also most of what scott seward said, Blonde Redhead (especially Melody of Certain Damaged Lemons)

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

That Blight single is pretty great. Glad they're reissuing it.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

They're reissuing Blight? That single is great, indeed.

Die Kreuzen - October File is good, that's inbetween the s/t and Gone Away. The Gone Away CD is worth getting though cos it has Cows & Beer on it.

I just bought New Year - Newness Ends, that's quite good, although obv not much like most of the other bands on this thread since they're a post-Bedhead band.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

No takers for Storm & Stress then? I like their approach, everything sounds so stumbling and erratic at first, but it really flows in quite a beautiful way. They're a bit like a freer version of Gastr Del Sol, I guess.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I have S&S's second record and think it's great; I only wish there was no (or less) singing.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like the second S&S album, but can't bear to listen to it more than very, very occasionally. I have Gone Away on 12" - bummer, I want to hear Cows & Beer so shall look out for that on the cheap...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

DON CAB FULES

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's not something I listen to much either; often I forget I have it.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

and yeah everything scott said. tho i've never heard silver fish.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

dischord monorchid record much better

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I don't mind the semi-tuneful abstract mumbling that much, but I could see how it could grate. Definitely not big on the actual proper singing though, I'll give you that. Still haven't heard Battles - how do they compare?

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

You can almost dance to Battles

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Arcwelder is cool too.

all these bands are good.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Also, NINA NATASIA IS THE MOST UNDERRATED T&G ARTIST EVAH!

Enon is okay.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

>> I want to hear Cows & Beer so shall look out for that on the cheap...

Ebay - cost me about £2.50 inc shipping!

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anyone ever enjoy that Daddy Longhead record? I can never get past the cover.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I always liked Mule, they were a fun band to see live. I liked them better than the Laughing Hyenas, but the version of the Hyenas I saw was after the rhythm section took off to join Mule.

That Killdozer cover's lp is a godlike party album. They do the best version of Take the Money and Run ever put to wax.

earlnash, Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

shit, i forgot killdozer. my bad. the Burl ep is essential. heck, most of their stuff is wonderful.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Touch & Go is the greatest!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

killdozer - snakeboy
die kreuzen - first two albums for sure, anything else is just gravy
laughing hyenas - first ep (if you can't find the first demo tape)
scratch acid - better when they were still on rabid cat
big black - yeah, everything, and then to hell with steve albini*
necros, negative approach, no trend: sure why not

which mekons and ex records were on touch & go again?

* - except for his work with living things, cordelia's dad, red swan, gogol bordello, neurosis, etc

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

also, touch & go didn't put out the hose EP with "you sexy thing" and "super freak" (i think) on it, did they? pre-beasties rick rubin; damn i wish i still had my copy of that thing. i'd forgotten they were also on *god's favorite dog*; is rubin actually on those two tracks on that comp, including the zep cover? did hose record anything else? (and actually, were they really any good, or just a cool historical footnote whose EP i was totally correct to sell?)

and right, i'd forgotten about *cows and beer* when i mentioned die kreuzen. but honestly, october file might be the most beautiful pigfuck album in human history.

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

also, what about virgin prunes? they had at least one good album on touch & go, if i remember right.

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

nick put a link above to their catalogue, chuck. i heart mekons was the first thing that came to mind for me. i certainly wouldn't tell someone who wasn't that familiar with mekons to buy pussy, king of the pirates. i guess they reissued the old stuff too.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

those first two shellac singles are cool too. i still want to hear bedhead. they are the patron saints for people who don't like to get out of bed. and they put out the scratch acid collection on one cd too. i still say beserker is better than just keep eating or the first album and i LOVE just keep eating. berserker is just one genius ball of psychedelic fury. perfect from beginning to end.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ok, well, in that case:

Mekons:
The Edge of the World
Devils, Rats & Piggies -- A Special Message from Godzilla
I Have Been to Heaven and Back: Hen's Teeth and Other Lost Fragments of Un-Popular Culture Vol. 1
Where Were You?: Hen's Teeth and Other Lost Fragments of Un-Popular Culture Vol.2
Fear and Whiskey
Punk Rock

Angry Red Planet
Gawker's Paradise

Urge Overkill
The Urge Overkill Story...Stay Tuned 1988-1991 (touch & go promo EP, not in catalogue, ignores their pre-t&g debut EP which I kinda miss)

Virgin Prunes
The Moon Looked Down and Laughed

Various
Process of Elimination EP

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I thought the Mekons were on Quarterstick? (same difference, but..)

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Brainiac overdue for recontextualization as ahead-of-their-time spazzy electro dance rock, Hissing Prigs and Electro-Shock are both good

if you like Silkworm but stopped paying attention after Firewater I'd definitely check out Lifestyles and esp. Italian Platinum

Urge Overkill's Supersonic Storybook, Polvo's Cor-Crane Secret

I liked Rodan's Rusty back in the day but now probably appropriate for only the most dedicated post-rockin' Slint fans

Renard, Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

VIRGIN PRUNES OTM. That record has now been reissued by someone else as part of the much-needed VP reissue series.

You Can't Pray A Lie is by far my favorite Laughing Hyenas record.

Necros, Die Kreuzen, Mekons, Big Black, hell yeah. And I like those !!! records.

Not familiar with 90% of the new catalog. I heard Don Cab the other day and it was great tho.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Even though they reissued all their T&G recs on their own label, the classic Butthole Surfers period is inextricably connected w/ Touch & Go in my mind.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

jay, my main point re: "omg bad analogy" was: What and why Corey (and to be fair, Tesco Vee) thinks he was put on this planet for probably couldn't be more opposite than how most business enterpreneurs approach that philosophy.

I could be wrong but Vee didn't start T&G thinking it would last beyond E. Lansing, much less become a relative haven for underground music distribution for the next 20 years run by that one guy in the Necros. see my point? I'm not saying your argument is full of shit, jay -- not at all. I'm just thinking we aren't going back far enough to the roots of T&G to see some really overlooked history there that's so un-enterpreneurial that maybe we should be looking at that a bit more, that's all. Just a strategy suggestion more than anything. I could have been more clear, so apologies.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

(To be fair, a lot of Huge Comglomos today probably had very humble ad hoc beginnings too.)

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jay your whole deal in re: T&G specifically is a huge mess of assumptions & projections that afaik don't actually apply here, it's not like T&G is an unraveling pyramid scheme. There are other places to do P&D, and there's DYI, and the labels will have to work hard if they want to keep doing what they do but those that want to go on will be able to do so.

J0hn D., Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

John D- It's not a pyramid scheme. It's a supply chain. This is a big disruption and will likely be the final straw for some folks in terms of doing real-world product. There will most definitely be people who want to go on who won't be able to do so now because credit is so tight.

jaybabcock, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

you're making a fuckton's worth of assumptions and i think you need to hire a fail truck to carry them away

Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

both makro and j0hn: i think yr. projecting weird things onto what jay's saying (ecluding the more metaphorical last paragraph). far as i can tell, what jay did was to describe the role of distributors/middlemen as credit holders. something fundamental to way almost all businesses operate, large and small, indie and outie. i expect, based on reputation, that corey will at least try to handle the closure of the distro responsiblity, but the loss of that credit pool will be a significant blow to a LOT of people, no matter how you slice it. as a thing in itself, but also in terms of the secondary effects jay mentioned: shift of the burden of accounting work, the way breaks in the chain tend to delay payment & confuse issues of responsibility, etc.

of course there are assumptions built in, but i think they're mostly fair assumptions. not guaranteed, but very reasonable.

contenderizer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

System - I don't understand your point...? Are you saying that perhaps Cory's management style and strategic decisions have been financially foolish, and he just got lucky for a while and his luck ran out? That just doesn't make sense to me to say. I know too many smart people in the business who work with him, or speak highly of him; they don't work with dummies, and they don't say that kind of stuff lightly. So I dunno...

jaybabcock, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

mr. que - Um. Look. Point out which assumption doesn't make sense to you, and I'll give you the basis for my making that assumption. Okay?

jaybabcock, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Contenderizer - Thanks for putting it better and more gracefully than I've been able to.

jaybabcock, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

One assumes that one thing in play here is that there are too many CDs that have been manufactured, shipped to stores and shipped back to distributor, unsold. One can reasonably assume that there are also vendors who have sold CDs (say) to customers but are behind in paying T & G. Distributors like T & G often operate as a bank here -- they extend credit (that is, they allow for late payment) to stores if they think it will help the store to stay alive and give T & G a better chance at eventually being paid; I would also assume that, given their reputation as good faith players and wise businessfolks, T & G also extended credit (that is, allowed for late payments) to labels for manufacturing costs. If you take these two reasonable assumptions, then it's reasonable to assume that T & G is holding a serious amount of debt that Cory doesn't think will ever be paid. So, he stops. Okay. This means a large, sturdy, dependable source of credit is now disappearing from the whole process. What happens to the money one presumes is owed to T & G for CD sales that retailers can't pay? What if stores say "we need another 60 days" or decide not to ever pay T & G since their relationship with them is now over since T & G is no longer in business? Remember that everything is done on terms/credit at this level, not with cash! The accounting work is significant. For the affected labels, this means that they have to do a whole lot of work right that they were hoping they wouldn't have to do, at what's probably the worst possible time...they're already dealing with problems on every front, and now THIS HAPPENS. Yikes, total triple red emergency alert.

i mean when i worked at a record store it was all about cash not credit. but i could be wrong. but you have like 800 assumptions in this paragraph i'm not gonna enumerate em all for ya, but do indie record stores really ship back CD's to T&G????

Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

HITLER
LADY GAGA
TRUCKER HATS

I'm trying to kill this argument dead via Godwin now.

Jay, why you thought I was inferring Corey was a bad bussinessman is beyond me. I'm sorry I said anything.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

What if stores say "we need another 60 days" or decide not to ever pay T & G since their relationship with them is now over since T & G is no longer in business?

isn't this like totally illegal?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm just going to say this again:

There are other places to do P&D, and there's DYI, and the labels will have to work hard if they want to keep doing what they do but those that want to go on will be able to do so.

not minimizing how sad it is that one of the best p&d's working won't be doing it any more but there is no reason, on earth, for any of the affected labels to not soldier on. most of them were self-running indies before they allied with t&g, and many of them can probably going through ADA now. I don't imagine ADA can pick up all of them, but it's not like these labels can't do the job themselves. Slow down the release schedule, work on cash instead of terms, it's really not that rough. It does mean, yeah, you can't keep a credit revolving door going for a while, but that's going to be true across many sectors in a slumping economy and would be imo healthy for a lot of reasons.

J0hn D., Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

John D: I agree with you, to a degree. But I think it's going to be much rougher going forward than you think. We'll see!

jaybabcock, Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mr. Que - Yes stores return CDs to distributors. My understanding from one other major indie distributor was that there was a huge uptick of returns in the second half of 2008. I don't have firsthand info on T & G in this regard, but um...yeah. I don't know many (any?) vendors of significance that are set up to buy cds in cash upfront from distributors as s.o.p.

re: legality of non-payment of debt. That's missing the point. You can have a contractually binding agreement with someone but if the cost of enforcing it is greater than the benefits derived from enforcing it, then...

jaybabcock, Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was a big Pinback fan at one time, but my favorite thin on Touch & Go is QUASI. That band still doesn't get enough credit.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 19 February 2009 18:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yes indie stores return unsold indie CDs to distributors. It sucks because you're like, I thought we sold a million, why are they coming back!

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 19:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

LATimes' Todd Martens blogs:

... Touch and Go has handled distribution for such labels as Merge Records (Arcade Fire, M. Ward), Suicide Squeeze (Minus the Bear) and Kill Rock Stars (the Decemberists' Colin Melloy). Yet Touch and Go has also been affiliated with Warner Music Group's distribution arm Alternative Distribution Alliance, which has handled the heavy lifting on major releases, including all of Merge's in the past few years.

Merge was distributed exclusively through Touch and Go for 15 years before going direct with the Warners' ADA. In a statement passed along to Pop & Hiss, Merge notes that had it not been for Touch and Go agreeing to manufacture and distribute the label, the Chapel Hill, N.C.-based indie could not have existed "as something other than a singles label."

In an e-mail, Merge founder Mac McCaughan calls Touch and Go "the most straight-up and ass-busting-for-music-they-love people we know."

"Corey Rusk is the most meticulous, cautious, thoughtful business person I know," he said, "which is what makes this whole thing so unbelievable and such a bad portent for the rest of the independent music business -- if a company that did everything the right way can't survive in this environment (and the environment existed before the current worldwide financial disaster -- the Bush economic legacy only piled on), then who can?"

It's unclear at the moment if Touch and Go will continue to sign new acts, or operate only as a catalog imprint. Billboard quotes a source that implies the latter, but a Touch and Go spokeswoman declined to clarify, and Rusk has not yet returned calls. Indications are that Touch & Go will continue to be distributed via ADA, but affiliated labels will soon have to seek new arrangements.

jaybabcock, Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

all of this jay babcock & dan seltzers

contenderizer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

selzer

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

white girls

contenderizer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

I prefer cherry selzer

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

what about white girls?

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

what jay said about retail + credit is otm, but I think the major assumption in his scenario is that corey waited too long to make this step and he's now irreversibly in the red. if the decision to close down distribution was proactive and will result in a balancing of all accounts then it's not unthinkable that nobody's going to get screwed out of monies owed (even if corey has to lay people off to support it).

although conservative outlooks during mid-2008 now seem wildly optimistic given the current conditions, one has to assume corey's character is going to have a lot to do with how this thing plays out.

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Edward III - True! Could be it's proactive. Still, the disruption/etc.

jaybabcock, Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

yo, i think they'll be alright, but you know, at the moment, it really is touch and go

brains, hand-rolled (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

RIMSHOT

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 20 February 2009 05:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

People who were doubting what me and Contenderizer (and others...) were saying would be likely fallout -- check this new article by Greg Kot in Chi Tribune -- Touch and Go's cutbacks leave independent music labels reeling: Owners say they will have to scale back operations to survive; others unsure if they will be able to make it

jaybabcock, Saturday, 21 February 2009 18:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yes, jay,as was clearly said upthread, there would be NO FALLOUT from this. Way to fucking twist words,dude. You're the human form of Godwin's law.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Saturday, 21 February 2009 19:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

System - Not referring to you, obv.

jaybabcock, Saturday, 21 February 2009 20:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

(System: I was talking about what the likely fallout would be and why... not whether or not there would be any fallout at all. Sorry for any confusion.)

jaybabcock, Saturday, 21 February 2009 20:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jay did you read the article you linked? It's rather less doom 'n' gloom than your tone on this thread.

J0hn D., Saturday, 21 February 2009 20:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah it really is

Mr. Que, Saturday, 21 February 2009 21:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Here's a new report from Billboard/Reuters

jaybabcock, Saturday, 21 February 2009 22:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

what's a "catalog-only imprint"?

candy corn for lunch and dinner (sarahel), Saturday, 21 February 2009 23:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

a label that only keeps their back catalog in print, and doesn't release any new albums

鬼の手 (Edward III), Saturday, 21 February 2009 23:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

According to T&G's own website, everything they've released (excepting licensed stuff and the, ahem, Butthole Surfers catalogue) is still in print, which is pretty remarkable. So while it's certainly sad that they're downscaling, at least they're not going the way of SST and disappearing into a crack in the ground.

MacDara, Saturday, 21 February 2009 23:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

bought the reissue of the 1st die kreuzen lp today (with dl, thanks). we do our part

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 February 2009 03:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ C: S

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 February 2009 03:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

According to T&G's own website, everything they've released (excepting licensed stuff and the, ahem, Butthole Surfers catalogue) is still in print, which is pretty remarkable.
Would be if it were true! I expect most of it is, but not everything. The most obvious being the Necros, but there's at least a couple of old EPs not in print - Flesh Columns, Angry Red Planet etc.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh well, most of it is. Can't find where I read that about the whole catalogue now, d'oh is me.

In any case, it's still a damn sight better than SST, or even Sub Pop.

MacDara, Sunday, 22 February 2009 15:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

it is AWESOME

sir you cannot be serious (stevie), Sunday, 3 October 2010 23:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

I've been on a big Laughing Hyena's kick for a few months for the first time since the 90s, mostly getting ready to see Easy Action open for Dino Jr. earlier this year. John Brannon is definitely one of the more intense vocalists in that group of bands.

A joke a buddy of mine made the next day after seeing the Laughing Hyena's back in the 90s in Bloomington always comes to me when I listen to them trying to imaging John Brannon trying to order breakfast at Dennys.

I WANT BACON!!!
TWO EGGS!
OVER EASY!
WITH A SIDE OF TOAST
AND A CUP OF COFFEE!!!!

Brannon's vocal style is pretty much 110% all the time. Don't know what he is like off stage, but he's pretty intense dude with a microphone in his hand (even today). When I saw Dino Jr. earlier this year Brannon did the vocals on their old tune "Don't".

earlnash, Saturday, 9 September 2017 04:08 (two months ago) Permalink

So his vocal style has been like that for decades then I guess! Remember him from way back when.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 September 2017 03:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, Brannon still has the hard man stage persona. Easy Action was pretty cool at that show I saw earlier this year. Saw Laughing Hyenas a couple of times back in the early 90s and they were great live.

earlnash, Sunday, 10 September 2017 04:10 (two months ago) Permalink

I probably saw that same Bloomington show, I know they played at 39 Steps (short lived all ages club) and maybe at Second Story once?

so fucking good

sleeve, Sunday, 10 September 2017 05:23 (two months ago) Permalink

oh wait, no, those were 80s shows

I saw them here in Oregon in like '91 once more before they broke up, Larissa was so smacked out

sleeve, Sunday, 10 September 2017 05:24 (two months ago) Permalink

He's on twitter now and he starts every single tweet with the phrase "check it out"

JRN, Sunday, 10 September 2017 06:13 (two months ago) Permalink

he starts every single tweet with the phrase "check it out"

this is so wonderful

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 10 September 2017 06:22 (two months ago) Permalink


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