The Cure: Classic or Dud?

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Omar raised this question in the "Why are you here?" thread. I put it forth to you all. Were Robert Smith and his ever-changing band musical giants or giant whiners?

Dan Perry, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link


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Tom, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan, thanks for taking the load of my back. ;) So yeah Dud of course. Classic case of crap voice. The music is nothing special. Occasional decent single like 'A Forrest' but for the rest, it's Fat Bob innit? But I'm interested in how Ned is going to explain to us the appeal of The Cure (no, really!).

Omar, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry Tom? I didn't quite hear that. Classic, anyway. I don't claim to be their biggest fan, but listening to things like the Boys Don't Cry and Disintegration albums, the good stuff outweighs the duller moments quite comfortably.

Ally C, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Absolutely classic in almost every conceivable way. The effortless switches from pop-punk squalling to moody atmospherics to venomous pathos to synth-pop typified by their output from '79 through '83 are impressive enough, but the fact that they went on to create pop masterpieces like _The Head On The Door_, _Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me_ and _Wish_ while retaining enough of their darkness to produce _Disintegration_ and _Bloodflowers_ makes them an essential band of the 80's and 90's. Even their lesser efforts have worthy moments (ie, "Want", "Treasure", "Jupiter Crash", "Trap", and "Gone!" from _Wild Mood Swings_, "Shake Dog Shake", "Piggy In The Mirror", "The Top" from _The Top_). And their remix album is pure money.

Anything to add, Ned?

Dan Perry, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, I 'spose. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but _Disintegration_ is very close indeed (overblown rock histrionics done flawlessly; luckily Smith doesn't whine on it much). Funny how so many of the criticisms of the band you hear refer to the concept of "Fat Bob"; in fact I'd say a lot of the attitudes towards British bands and artists on ILM seem to be heavily influenced by the media's portrayal of them.

Tim, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Cure represented the finest of what the Euro art rock had to offer during the 80s. They were more majestic than Depeche Mode and less metallic than the cult. Classic in my book

Luptune Pitman, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Forgive I'm relatively new to this forum, I have a hard time with these polar extremes: ('classic'versus'dud'). In the case of the Cure, I couldn't say either term applies (although one could certainly tag them to individual Cure albums). Like many bands cited around here, the Cure have changed styles in as many albums, playing everything from funereal dirges through spritely, radio-friendly pop ditties and much inbetween. I'm not saying they're a "something for eveyone" band, but musically, they've been hard to pin-down. The one strike against them, however (beyond their tonsorial problems) would be Robert's inimitably distinctive (is that a repetitious statement? like "luminous glow" or "alien outworlder") voice, which is so firmly rooted in their 80's heyday. Even if the band were to put out a radically avant-garde album of the most cutting-edge styles and sounds conceivable, the second Robert opened his mouth and let out his signature wobbly warble, it'd be the old "oh, it's the Cure again." And if you can't get beyond his voice, then there's no point in ever purchasing a Cure album, regardless of era and/or particular incarnation. That said, I think they're a marvellously diverse singles band, but I could certainly see why some would avoid them like the plauge (ho ho, pardon the pun, Camus fans). Sorry, I'll shut up now. - Alex in NYC

Alex in NYC, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

classic. 'charlotte sometimes' is one of my favourite songs ever. each record up to and including disintegration is worth owning and even the one after disintegration is not horrible. i have no interest in them now but robert smith's guitar sound is far more influential than he gets credit for. without robert smith there would likely not be a roy montgomery, at least not in his current guise and that would be a devastating tragedy at least for myself.

keith, Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What seems to predomine here is "I'm not actively into them NOW, but I spent the first half of my teens with the Cure on my walkman". At least I did. I believe this means classic.

Simon, Tuesday, 27 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Re: classic or dud polarisation.

The idea is to encourage people to be forthright in their opinion but it's not a vote or anything. It's a catchier way of saying "what do you think of this band?"


(PS: Dud. A couple of the singles are nice musically, even very good, but they have Smith's horrible smeared moan over the top of them. He sounds like a fourteen-year-old with a splinter in his toe: there's something wheedling about his voice which makes me want to smack him and tell him to get a grip rather than empathise with him.)

Tom, Tuesday, 27 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. Part of my yoof, you see. I've whiled away many an unhappy evening in the company of 'Faith' and 'Seventeen Seconds'!

Seriously.. though it seems the norm to slag 'em off these days, it's amazing just how much good stuff they have done. 'Boy's Don't Cry'/'3 Imaginary Boys' is a great debut, whichever version you have. Scratchy wired glum-pop. In fact it's all classic up to 'The Top', their first major clunker.

'Head on the Door' is great pop. 'Kiss Me X3' is also great pop ('Just Like Heaven'), except where they try too hard to make great pop and fail ('Hot, Hot, Hot'). 'Disintegration' is their last great album. But not pop. No problem.

My last encounter with The Cure was 'Wild Mood Swings'. I swung my copy back from whence it came - Record and Tape Exchange. Still, 'Galore' sums up the later years nicely.

Anyway I like old Bob, a pop man at heart even in his gloomiest moments.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 27 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I've been asked for at least twice in this thread already. ;-)

Classic. And if you disagree with me I'll shove all twenty or so CDRs of rare and odd stuff I have of theirs down your throat and kill you. *proceeds to light candles to huge _Disintegration_ poster in room*

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classique. They have enough great tunes and came up with some pretty original sounds. I like how they continually evolve, even if some of their evolution has produced some crap music. I could still listen to "Jumping Someone Else's Train" repeatedly after all these years. I heard some of their last record and it was really bad though. And kill that "Friday I'm in Love" dung, boys! But for the most part, great stuff.

Tim Baier, Tuesday, 27 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, though their most recent stuff sucks.

The Cure are a band who, like Depeche Mode and a number of others of that ilk, should have just hung it up on December 31, 1989. Their glory days were in the 1980s, Disintegration should have been their last album. It would have been a perfect ending. Instead, they chose to put out three subpar releases in the 1990s. While Bloodflowers was a definite improvement over Wild Mood Swings (did *anyone* like that album?) and Wish (which came out at the peak of my Cure fandom and still disappointed me), it still wasn't close to the material they released during the 1980s.

Yeah, some of their stuff is whiny and pretentious. But I think they manage to pull it off reasonably well, and I think the whininess and the pretentiousness will make them staples of every sad-sack high school kid for the next thirty years, whether they continue to release new albums or not. (And hopefully they won't, judging from the poor quality of their most recent albums--I think that the more bad stuff they release, the less "legendary" they'll become.)

By the way, I *was* a teenage goth girl. I was also an early-20s goth girl. I own a velvet and lace cape and little pointy boots and black lipstick. Heh.

Nanette, Wednesday, 28 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Nanette, I'd argue that _Wish_ is a very underrated album. Its mood is radically different from _Disintegration_, which is one thing that I think threw people off when it came out. I, for one, really dig the snarlier tone of "Open", "Cut", "FTEOTDGS", and "End" and their juxtaposition with more contemplative "Apart", "Trust", and "To Wish Impossible Things". _Wish_ also has "High", which I consider to be the last truly great pop song that the Cure did.

_Wild Mood Swings_ is more problematic. It's a very erratic album and contains a couple of songs that never should have seen the light of day ("Mint Car", "Return"). However, it also contains the absolutely marvelous "The 13th", "Want", "Gone!" and "Jupiter Crash". Some judicious editing (and swapping some album tracks for b-sides) would make this a much better album.

For me, _Bloodflowers_ compares very well to their 80's output. It seems that the group got back into a good songwriting groove for this album, which is particularly evident on "Out Of This World", "The Loudest Sound", "The Last Day Of Summer", "Bloodflowers", and "Watching Me Fall" (Cure cliches and all). The album has a strong sense of flow and there are no embarrassing attempts to rewrite "Friday I'm In Love". It was a good ending for them, assuming that Robert's latest pronouncements about the band's demise are actually true this time.

There are individual songs I don't like, and _Wild Mood Swings_ is easily my least- favorite of their albums, but I'd be hard-pressed to say that I actively dislike any of the Cure's albums.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 28 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm in sympathy with the way that the 'classic' brigade have articulated that they love the band even though they can see their sillinesses, repetitions and limitations. Possibly a lot of pop love is of this kind.

the pinefox, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
The Cure are damned by having so many annoying fans.

They have many good tunes. However, they have many bad ones, viz "Friday I'm In Love".

Still, at their best they show an impressive ability to make both poppy goth jumpathons and total doomfests.

DV, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Dud. Possibly something worthwhile beyond Smith's vocals, but I can't get past them.

DeRayMi, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I've had a love/hate relationship with The Cure that had long since given way to indifference. but recently I've listened again to Robert Smith's 1983 collaboration album with Steve Severin - The Glove is great! (probably like how I'd rather listen to the Andy Partridge solo album Take Away/Lure Of Salvage than most XTC.)

as with many Cure detractors, Bob's voice and self-pity usually get to me. still have fond memories of Seventeen Seconds and Faith but I also enjoy some later stuff where twisted humour, all of Pornography, or tenderness, "The Upstairs Room" and "Birdmadgirl", balance out the self-loathing and sappiness.

the Laurence Tolhurst abuse didn't help Robert Smith's case (and John McGeoch was a better Banshee).

Paul, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link


Paul, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

The Cure are fucking appalling. As someone else already keenly observed - a classic case of having a fucking awful voice. I mean I don't mind some of the musicianship but fatboy Smith is such a twat. Really.

I had a girlfriend once who was into these boys hard and she used to play is it 'Pictures of You' (?) over and over and over (a sort of pining for a lost love I think; not me, incidentally). Anyway, it used to bore the hell out of me, not to mention what felt like a large hole in my brain.

The thing is, with the Cure, it's like the Manic Street FUCKING Preachers syndrome - people who like 'em don't just like 'em, they fucking LOVE 'em, and think they're prophets or something. No, they are miserable, half-goths with absolutely nothing to say and even less charisma.

That said, I am admit that I am hardly familiar know their canon, since I can't bear exposure to it for protracated periods.


Roger Fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, I think it's that the boring protestations of those who don't 'get' the music always have to be matched by those who emphatically do. One defines the other ..

Dare, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Not at all, Paul. There's something about The Cure and The Preachers that triggers fervour of a disturbing religiosity in people's heads, well, in my experience anyway. And if you wanna put that to the test, gently question a more avid fan and watch them twist like they was shackled to the cross.

Hmm, having said that, I do get riled when someone fails to 'get' my favourite bands and indulges in the kind of mindless attack I have already posted against The Cure. Yet, I feel that certain bands are wont to attract a more dependent following, who hang the band's music like metaphorical rosaries. And I'm not sure that even among my most beloved artists, there are those which I could hold in such equally mindless esteem.

What say you?

Roger fascist, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...
If i brooded around and had a aweful voice, would i be as good as the cure, which coincidently, isnt even good to begin with


Hayward, Thursday, 3 October 2002 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Oddly enough, I've never really sought out their albums; I'm sure I'll get around to it, but I'm pretty sure they'll always be available... Pretty much all of their singles, though, are flat-out amazing - how could they not be classic?

Clarke B., Thursday, 3 October 2002 04:37 (sixteen years ago) link

The albums are SO WORTH IT, Clarke.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 October 2002 11:13 (sixteen years ago) link


Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 October 2002 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

hmmmmmmm .............

donna (donna), Friday, 4 October 2002 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm exactly like Clarke. Always loved what I heard, but only own 'Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me'... Last year I told a friend of mine that the reason for this is because I pretty much know that I'll like them and am just 'saving it'. Is this like some weird Cure phenomena?

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I LOVE THE CURE. They fill a niche that no other band does. From the acutely depresso Pornography stuff to the silly dance stuff to the haunting gothy Faith stuff to the blatant sunshine pop... they've done all this convincingly and well. Did they invent the drugged up goofy romantic miserable goth ecstatic giddy thing?

Yet I do wonder how much my own nosatlgia plays a role. I still think Wish is great, despite every. review. ever. written. Maybe if I hadn't listened to it for the 1st time as a teenager travelling thru Europe with schoomates I'd think differently.

Aaron A., Friday, 4 October 2002 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Where to start, Ned and Dan? I'm thinking _Pornography_, but some of their _Disintegration_-era stuff kills me (esp. "Lovesong").

Also, I really really like the Wolfgang Press song on _Lonely is an Eyesore_, but I've heard their recordings are pretty patchy. Any recommendations there?

Clarke B., Friday, 4 October 2002 05:30 (sixteen years ago) link

In your place I'd start with 17 Seconds, Clarke. It has their greatest song on it, "A Forest" and I find it the darkest and most powerful of their records. A lot of their stuff didn't age too well (even Disintegration), but this record definitely stood the test of time.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 4 October 2002 07:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I wouldn't go for _Pornography_ first; I think I'd get _Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me_ and the cassette version of _Standing On A Beach_ in order to get the b-sides.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 October 2002 11:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic until "Stranding on a Beach" came out, after which they descended into the depths of self-parody.

TMFTML (TMFTML), Friday, 4 October 2002 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I kinda saved them also, Kim - owned the two singles compilations for years before actually buying my first proper album (Disintegration) just this year. Though I do like it, it hasn't swayed me into snatching up the others yet. Maybe in another four years I'll get another one.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 4 October 2002 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

They fill(ed?) a niche no one else did (which I usually characterize as "Harlequin romance rock") and they did a perfectly accomplished and unique job of it most of the time but it's not one I care to listen to much at all. I can play Pornography maybe a couple times per year and it's sometimes nice to hear the singles on the radio but overall there's not a big connection. And I couldn't imagine sitting through a whole album of stuff like "In Between Days" or "Let's Go to Bed". The singles comp (Staring At the Sea?) is probably as much as I'd need of that. I'd buy Disintegration if I thought I'd ever listen to it. Wish and Wild Mood Swings were awful.

sundar subramanian, Friday, 4 October 2002 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I honestly cannot comprehend how _Wish_ is AWFUL.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 October 2002 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

the cure were/are one of the best bands for dancing to whilst only wearing underwear...hopefully not by yourself...

g (graysonlane), Friday, 4 October 2002 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok, I'm a liar. I totally forgot that I also had 'Standing on a Beach' on cassette - played it to death. I don't have it anymore though. I think my brother "borrowed" it and never gave it back! Ooooh...that little...

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I like just like heaven, I'm going to get Kiss me times 3.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

classic classic classic and why should you not dance to the cure in underwear by yourself! unless you are wearing the underwear out to the goth dance club, of course.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you ever been to a goth dance club? Underwear as outerwear is pretty much de rigeur.

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Clarke, start with Disintegration first, and then try Seventeen Seconds and then Pornography. I've argued elsethread about this already so I won't go into the details here...just click the link, cause there's a lot of other good talk there anyhow.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Pretend that there's a smiley at the end of my last post. I sound like a meanie otherwise.

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
"And yet Robert Smith - the Chatterton of Crawley - had created if not a wall of sound then a very high hedge of sound, over which he seemed to peer at the world like a boy who couldn't be bothered to ask for his ball back."

the "cure=suburbia" part of Michael Bracewell's England Is Mine is one of the best things ever!

etc, Wednesday, 20 August 2003 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"Join the Dots" (B Sides and rarities) is out on October 21st. I presume it'll have the much talked about Cassette b sides from Standing on a Beach on it, but does anyone know that actual tracklisting is?

flowersdie (flowersdie), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 09:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Hopefully it'll have the stuff off "curiosity", too. And that soundtrack they did.

Classic, BTW. Again, my mid-teens coincided with Disintegration and I was full-on obsessed for a couple of years. I bought a shedload of albums at Oxfam last year, and a friend and I drove our GF/wives insane by listening, back to back, to 17 Seconds, Faith, Pornography and the Top. Divorce was on the horizon by the end of that evening.

Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Hopefully it'll have the stuff off "curiosity", too. And that soundtrack they did.

Thing is, there are SO many B-sides and rarities which have officially surfaced that they'd have to put out a box set. As it is, if the remasters that are surfacing next year are going to include bonus discs for each with room for other oddities, then that will partially settle the problem.

Thy Lethal Zen Ned (Ned), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I hadn't seen that in the comments

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Thursday, 30 May 2019 21:25 (one month ago) link


Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Thursday, 30 May 2019 21:33 (one month ago) link

Also can we talk for a second about how Robert is 60 and still sounds like he did on this album?

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:08 (one month ago) link

The "Disintegration" in this Disintegration >>> the "Disintegration" in the Trilogy Disintegration.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:21 (one month ago) link

Haven’t listened to the album yet but what a treat to hear these b sides played. I don’t think it worked so well live but still, never thought I’d ever hear them play Fear of Ghosts. Babble otoh kicked ass live. They should add it to their regular live set rotation.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 31 May 2019 07:24 (one month ago) link

(after a short youtube link following trail) btw, I didn't know about the alternative lyrics to A Forest in 1979 + the energy!

StanM, Friday, 31 May 2019 07:43 (one month ago) link

the energy!

Whenever I see clips like that I just think "the drugs!"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 May 2019 12:03 (one month ago) link

I spent a lovely evening chatting with Reeves Gabrels' wife via Twitter DM last night and got confirmation that Robert uses a bunch of vocal technique to keep his voice intact

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Friday, 31 May 2019 13:16 (one month ago) link

he sounded wonderful on that livestream

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:10 (one month ago) link

also, i may be misremembering this, but that performance of disintegration seemed v deeply felt and even slightly... energetic? compared to my old trilogy dvd

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:11 (one month ago) link

I didn't know about the alternative lyrics to A Forest in 1979

In the early years their lyrics could be in flux even from night to night as they wrote songs onstage (and even occasionally after recording: Seventeen Seconds' song Three spent years in the set after turning into Forever with improvised lyrics)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 31 May 2019 21:18 (one month ago) link

Last thing I expected was a new interview with Boris Williams but it's great. I'm not sure I've ever heard him talk at length before, he sounds lovely and very chilled:

Some very interesting (YMMV) insights into his time in the band, including (too briefly) why he left and how he feels about seeing the band play without him.

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 11:39 (one month ago) link

What fine judgment throughout, especially that one guy. Modesty forbids.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 15:35 (one month ago) link

We will be holding an exclusive advance screening of "The Cure - Anniversary 1978-2018 Live in Hyde Park London" at a secret location in London on Wednesday July 3.
This screening will also feature a special introduction from director Tim Pope.

— The Cure (@thecure) June 17, 2019

tim pope thingy update.

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 17 June 2019 15:54 (one month ago) link

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 17 June 2019 15:55 (one month ago) link

Looks like it's just a concert film though?

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 17 June 2019 15:57 (one month ago) link

Oh like The Cure in Orange? Twist my arm.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 June 2019 16:06 (one month ago) link

No, I just thought there had been some discussion a few years ago about a documentary, with Tim sorting through all sorts of archival stuff. But nothing in the trailer seems to indicate that.

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:17 (one month ago) link

Wonder if they have a recording of the Mexico City show from 2013 where they played like 50 songs?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 17 June 2019 16:21 (one month ago) link

Dunno, not really excited about that concert film either. Setlist was pretty bland and the setting too. I don’t really see the point of this (Reflections or the Disintegration show would maybe have been more interesting)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 17 June 2019 17:33 (one month ago) link

bring the Wish deluxe edition!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 17 June 2019 18:20 (one month ago) link

maybe they did a set in the rain at Red Rocks at some point they could release

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 17 June 2019 18:29 (one month ago) link

Man, this looks dull :(

MaresNest, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:45 (one month ago) link

I was just listening to Wish, streaming it, and noticed it was branded "explicit." I assume that means profanity, but I'm trying to remember where on the album there's any profanity.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 June 2019 19:43 (four weeks ago) link

the end of Wendy Time has a "fuck" in it

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 21 June 2019 19:44 (four weeks ago) link

Huh, so it does! Is there much or really for that matter any profanity in the rest of the Cure catalog?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 June 2019 19:53 (four weeks ago) link

Get your fucking voice out of my head

Colonel Poo, Friday, 21 June 2019 19:59 (four weeks ago) link

The Kiss has a "fuck" in it, but I can't think of any others offhand. In Wendy Time he's kinda self-censoring by swallowing most of the word!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:00 (four weeks ago) link

hahaha xpost

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:00 (four weeks ago) link

Give Me It - "My heart is black and stops every fucking night"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:12 (four weeks ago) link

Us or Them - "Get your fucking world out of my head"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:14 (four weeks ago) link

It's Over - "It's always fucking over"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:15 (four weeks ago) link

Sleep When I'm Dead - "The whole other fucking world"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:15 (four weeks ago) link

"The spiderman does poops and pees in the lavatory at night"

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 21 June 2019 20:24 (four weeks ago) link

Shiver & Shake - "You're three sick holes that run like sores - you're a fucking waste."

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:23 (three weeks ago) link

Interviewed Tim Pope the other day about the forthcoming concert film -- great chat, and the film's excellent. Story should run next week.

In the meantime, enjoy yesterday's Glastonbury set:

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 July 2019 16:13 (two weeks ago) link

Saw it last night on the telly. They're truly on form again. A delight to see Robert Smith enjoying himself as much as he did, quirky dance moves and all.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 July 2019 17:30 (two weeks ago) link

TV version:

Might not be available in all countries?

djh, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:40 (two weeks ago) link

Our man in San Francisco Ned Raggett chats with Pope about his forthcoming Cure concert film Anniversary as well as more unusual anecdotes about his many music videos for them than you can shake a stick at. Or is that a sock?

ArchCarrier, Monday, 8 July 2019 09:15 (one week ago) link

And indeed, that is me. Fantastic chat, could have gone on for so much longer but I had to squeeze it in between several things on my schedule.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 July 2019 15:37 (one week ago) link

Great piece, Ned!

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 8 July 2019 16:03 (one week ago) link


Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 July 2019 16:07 (one week ago) link

The most detailed answer on the biggest question was definitely his "Why Can't I Be You" thoughts

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 July 2019 16:12 (one week ago) link


brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 8 July 2019 16:17 (one week ago) link

I totally read that as

Our man in San Francisco Ned Raggett chats with the Pope about his forthcoming

StanM, Monday, 8 July 2019 16:24 (one week ago) link

"So Francis, you a Pornography man?"

"Who am I to judge?"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 July 2019 16:45 (one week ago) link

I also misread it that way and thought "the pope" was a terrible new nickname for Robert Smith.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 12 July 2019 18:18 (one week ago) link


Seeing the film last night in a full theater experience was pretty great.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 July 2019 18:25 (one week ago) link

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