Why on earth did Walter Becker produce China Crisis?

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Eh?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Money?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

china crisis are woefully underrated. i know banana n. feels me on this.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Because they were an occasionally amazing band?

Ally C (Ally C), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

It wasn't a question of aesthetics; I just wondered how this engorged cynic hooked up with them. Anyone got a story?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

they asked him?

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

is that David Lee Roth in the 100 bill?

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Becker was sorta wondering what he was gonna do post-Steely Dan is my understanding - there was no formal "we're done" so far as I know, but I suspect he was sorta playing with the idea of becoming a producer - he also did some amazing work with Rickie Lee Jones

"King in a Catholic Style" is a phenomenal song

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

incidentally, i revived this thread earlier...

Rickie Lee Jones, c/d?

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I love "Wishful Thinking"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I, too, feel that China Crisis is/are underrated-I loved "Flaunt the Imperfection". They had a show scheduled in Seattle a few years back that was canceled, prob'ly due to poor ticket sales, sigh

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll add to the China Crisis love with a vote for Arizona Sky. What a gorgeous song.

Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

"Black Man Ray" was a great song that sounded a lot like China Crisis and nothing like Steely Dan. :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 3 December 2005 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah IIRC "King In A Catholic Style" was the only song on that album that sounds remotely like Steely Dan.

I'm also thinking this was just post rehab/drug prob for Becker, sort of a tentative step back into the daylight. Or maybe it was the last straw, a little blowout in the midst of a final coke binge.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 3 December 2005 12:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Alfred is my hero for starting a China Crisis thread, let along one like this.

I carried the torch for China Crisis for many years, especially in my late teens/early 20's. Never met many people that were into them, really, if anyone. I still remember them fondly but really don't play them anymore. Did anyone get that really mellow acoustic live CD thing they did towards the end? It wasn't mind-blowing but not a bad way to go out, either.

Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 December 2005 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

"king in a catholic style" and "black man ray" pop into my head every once in a while. this was a pretty good record, haven't listened to the whole thing in nearly 20 years. i remember the production being very professional but not overtly "dan-like"

from crass encino (velko), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 06:52 (eleven years ago) link

So the 'riginal question basically is "Why did Walter Becker cross the road?"?

t**t, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

"because they askeed him to"

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

listened to "wall of god" for the first time in forever last night
rip bimble

velko, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 03:37 (ten years ago) link

Becker was sorta wondering what he was gonna do post-Steely Dan is my understanding - there was no formal "we're done" so far as I know, but I suspect he was sorta playing with the idea of becoming a producer - he also did some amazing work with Rickie Lee Jones

Also worked with Fra Lippo Lippi and Rosie Vela.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 08:53 (ten years ago) link

This band is affectionately known in our house as Vagina Crisis.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 10:26 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

feeling that ersatz panpipe action on "christian" right now

oh tina turner we love you get back (donna rouge), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 02:21 (eight years ago) link

I finally heard this album in March. Not bad!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 02:22 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

God damn I'm listening to Flaunt the Arrangement right now and the horns on "You Did Cut Me" are just perfect

tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 July 2013 01:08 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

While I wouldn't really class China Crisis as being up there with other bands who were producing this type of music at the time, Working With Fire and Steel and Flaunt The Imperfection are both a hundred, million, billion, zillion times better than anything that, say, Spandau Ballet managed to shit out in the '80s, as are the first three New Musik albums.

Turrican, Monday, 7 December 2015 23:16 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Never heard these guys before and “red sails” came on and I thought it was some new Ariel pink soundalike

calstars, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

"King in a Catholic Style" still super great

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rzEwK9e_PM

Maresn3st, Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:37 (one week ago) link

Siiick

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:18 (one week ago) link

so is china crisis kinda good? because, uhh. . .

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:37 (one week ago) link

I like the first album alright

brimstead, Friday, 31 July 2020 01:43 (one week ago) link

Flaunt the Imperfection is good, Autumn in the Neighbourhood from 2018 too

corrs unplugged, Friday, 31 July 2020 07:12 (one week ago) link

I would say 'kinda good' is a fair assessment, yeah.

Maresn3st, Friday, 31 July 2020 10:22 (one week ago) link

"Working with Fire and Steel" is borderline genius. As is "Wishful Thinking". I thought they actually suffered when Walter Becker got involved with them; I much preferred their previous album which was produced by Mike Howlett. But then again I'm 1,000,000% a New Wave junkie.

We Live as We Dee, Alone (deethelurker), Saturday, 1 August 2020 01:19 (one week ago) link


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