Kayo Dot / Maudlin of the Well

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Dowsing Anemone with Copper Tongue on Robotic Empire. The first track totally sounds like Charles Ives if Charles Ives had started a really cool metal band when he was 20. Which, you know, he would have if he had thought of it. So, they have one other album on Tzadik? Is that the deal? The ILM search function taught me that much. And El Sabor is a fan cuz he has such good taste. Wow, it's like Christmas or something. All three Maudlin Of The Well albums are essential in case you missed them. See, I always thought someone should rip them off somehow, it's such a great formula, but it seems as though they were the only people who thought to do it.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I love you, Scott.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I haven't made it all the way through track 1 yet...cause I kinda thought it sucked. But I got the Ocean CD on the same day, plus this insane disc by Mariem Hassan that kinda sounds like if Junior Kimbrough was a woman from North Africa. So I've got other things taking up my ear-space. But maybe over the long weekend I'll give Kayo Dot another chance, if only because their publicist is a good guy.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I have the kayo dot but not played it yet.
Phil is it Ocean or The Ocean you have? I bought Ocean - 'Here Where Nothing Grows ' from Important Records and its really good.
I wondered what you thought of this album.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Kayo Dot's last album through word of mouth is performing very well on rateyourmusic.com Top Albums of 2003 [currently ranked at 14] 11 places above Radiohead's Hail to the Thief

http://rateyourmusic.com/top_albums/year_is_2003

They could be oncourse to cross over to THe Explosions in The Sky/ Godspeed You Black Emperor crowd with the new album.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Scott, just how could have you missed the news of the Kayo Dot album in 2003 ?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

there are two Oceans both playing the post-neurosis sound

Portland US band, The Ocean on Important - 'Here Where Nothing Grows'

German Ocean newly signed to Metal Blade, new album delayed till March 2006.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I got the one on Important - three songs, 65 minutes. It's pretty good. Not exactly music to focus on, but a pleasant background clang/roar.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

give it another shot, phil. it's worth it.

i dunno how i missed it, martian! i can't be everywhere. i try, i try...

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i think it's track 4 that raises the sweetest ruckus. i have to listen again to the whole thing though. i've only played it once. i had it sitting around for days cuz i didn't know what the hell it was.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

scott by the way your blog: metal fury is getting comments spammed by ecommerce clowns.

tip: log into your blogger account and clean it up, or turn off comments.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Saw them at the Hemlock Tavern in San Fran just recently, it was so great. From what I remember there were three guitarists, a bassist, the drummer, violinist, and two fellows switching between horns and keyboard. Beautiful live sound ... the horn wasn't high up enough in the mix, but listening in a tiny room like that, you weren't too far from the actual players, so all the sounds meshed together, gorgeous noisy collage. The way they ended the show was a nice little moment of inspiration ... they'd hauled an empty metal drum on stage earlier, and each member would progressively quit playing after a minute or so, pick up a set of drum sticks and start beating around the rim of the drum. It kept building and building until you had 8 or 9 people circled around, feeding into this roiling, clattering chaos, much louder and more aggressive in its own way than any number of guitars massed together.

Not sure if that piece is on the new album, as I spent my money on 'Choirs of the Eye.' Definitely one of my favorite albums of 2003 ... the production quality is super rich.

Dare (Dare), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"scott by the way your blog: metal fury is getting comments spammed by ecommerce clowns."

yeah, i noticed that. i will have to delete that stuff.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ooh, new kayo dot! i had no idea. i just got my first maudlin of the well album (my fruit psychobells...), actually, and i'm digging it more than choirs of the eye, though i'd have to admit the latter is infinitely more musically adventurous.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

you can hear some of the album on their myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/kayodot


also, toby driver of Kayo Dot has a new album on Tzadik:

http://www.myspace.com/tobydriver


AND, the other dude from Kayo Dot has a new solo album:

http://www.myspace.com/baliset

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Toby's old professor, Yusef Lateef, taught him all about his (Yusef's) theory of autophysiopsychic music, and Maudlin of the Well and Kayo Dot supposedly use these theories in their music. I hope I never find out what it is, I just like saying "autophysiopsychic" over and over.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Intrigued. YSI, Scott?

roger, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'll say one thing - "Aura on the Asylum Wall" is one of the best titles I've heard all year! Got it queued up...

roger, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i can't do the ysi thing, sorry :( maybe someone else...

and, hey, dark symphonies is rereleasing the last two (interconnected) maudlin of the Well albums for those who missed them! Both made my Village Voice Pazz & Jop list that year. DS info:


1.) DARK SYMPHONIES is proud to announce the re-issue of former recording artist MAUDLIN OF THE WELL's two groundbreaking works of astral metal entitled, "BATH" and "LEAVING YOUR BODY MAP"! The world wide release date for the Dark Symphonies re-issues for these two cds will be TUESDAY, JANUARY 3, 2006!

Originally released in the summer of 2001, "Bath" and "Leaving Your Body Map" were presented simultaneously to the world as companion pieces to present the band's vision of what they dubbed "astral metal." Bold and daring in scope, these two releases amounted to nothing less than a conceptual journey of astral dimensions as it transported the listener into the infinite depths of the human imagination. Believing a higher consciousness can be achieved through music, motW skillfuly employed a vast array of instrumentation and vocalization to explore the macrocosmic world of our thoughts and dreams. From delicate guitar harmonics to monsterous walls of sound, motW evoked all the relevant emotions from each of its influences: death metal's rage, gothic doom's melancholy, classical's joy, atmospheric music's psychedelia, folk's reflective tranquility, jazz's excitement and rock's glee. Maudlin of the Well also incorporated autophysiopsychic music techniques into the compositonal structure and sequence of each song making "Bath" and "Leaving Your Body Map" a truly out-of-body listening experience. Majestically crafted and executed with precision, "Bath" and "Leaving Your Body Map" are a stunning achievement of progressive, extreme music!

The re-issue versions will include five bonus tracks selected by the band as well as extensive liner notes written by Toby Driver, the mastermind behind Maudlin Of The Well! The original artwork will remain intact at the request of Toby since he feels it still conveys the meaning and spirit behind the music and lyrics. The repressing for each cd will be limited to 1,000 copies world-wide! And the complete tracklisting will be posted here in the next few days, so stay tuned!

Finally, we thought it would be appropriate to post several comments made by reviewers/critics who reviewed "Bath" and "Leaving Your Body Map" back in 2001. Enjoy!

"Maudlin of the Well has accomplished something that few artists are truly able to pull off: an extensive, lengthy double release that does not sound as though a good half hour could be left off with no detrimental effects. Recommended entirely to those with pioneer spirit and an explorer's heart." ~ John Chedsey - Satan Stole My Teddy Bear

"I, for myself, think that they are geniuses; at least, they are trying to do something really original. What I like the most with them is that you never know when a heavy part or a soft part will come; always letting you guess what will happen next." ~ Math - The Metal Observer

"I can see why there is a great deal of buzz about this band -This is clearly one of the best releases of 2001. I urge you check it out for yourself." ~ progressiveworld.net

"Mark my words, maudlin of the Well are the new guys to watch in the metal world. Highly, highly recommended." ~ Jon Murphree - EER Music

"This is truly art. So what do you do about it? Buy them. Now. As soon as humanly possible. Make no mistake, these are not lightweight albums and if you like your music trite, simplistic, and predictable, you may need to hear this more than those who would be open to it." ~ Matthew - Starvox

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I hope I never find out what it is,

It means changing your alpha waves to calm you with ELF in order to empty your bowels.

George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

this kayo dot sounds like it might be too post-maudlin for me...

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 00:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Just wait 20 years until we get the post-maudlin revival acts ...

Dare (Dare), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 00:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
i'm listening to this dowsing anemone album right now....it's crazy stuff! insane even.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

so this is kinda funny: i e-mailed dark symphonies about getting copies of the maudlin of the well reissues to review for decibel and they wrote back that it is only a reissue and they are not sending promo copies out. i told them that i really only needed to hear the 4 or 5 unreleased tracks that they tacked on to the reissues and if they wanted they could just send me a cdr of those tracks cuz i already owned the two albums. they wrote back and said, thanks, but sales are good and we only made a 1000 of each and we are gonna sell out of those, so don't worry about it. in other words, don't bother writing about them! the 2 CDs only cost 20 bucks all together, but i am poor, and i didn't feel like asking decibel to buy them. anyway, i did what i could! i love those albums to death. i wanted the nation to know how great they are. in any case, buy them while you can cuz they will be out of print again soon!

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 00:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i mean, i guess i could have just reviewed the albums, and then glossed over the unreleased tracks, but that would have been weird.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 00:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

scott, try asking the band - maybe they'll hook you up themselves. I know they've had a strained relationship with DS concerning this sort of thing before.

Avi (Avi), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 01:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i did think of that, avi. we'll see...


i like the kayo dot review in decibel:


"You could tell from the earliest stirrings of Maudlin of the Well that there was a lot more going on in chief composer Toby Driver’s head than a proggish take on doom-metal heaviness. In Kayo Dot, his subsequent project, Driver has delved ever further into formally composed and arranged pieces that ebb and flow as inexorably as the tides.

That’s not to suggest that there’s no heaviness on Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue. But that density is just as likely to come from thickly clotted chords on violin and trumpet as from walls of distorted guitar. Opening track “Gemini Becoming the Tripod” has it both ways, alternating between stately chamber-music textures and funereal plod. Disorienting and claustrophobic, the track is a tortured fever dream; Driver’s vocal sounds like Billy Corgan being slowly strangled.

Opening in misty drift, “Immortelle and Paper Caravelle” sighs into a sweetly sung ballad, Driver’s fey vocal caressed by Forbes Graham’s warm trumpet and Mia Matsumiya’s purring violin. The stop-start opening of “Aura on an Asylum Wall” transitions through a gently swinging jazz interlude to a driving 5/8 climax worthy of Van der Graaf Generator. The epic “___ on Limpid Form” ranges from blissful Floydian reverie to caustic Khanate dirge before exploding like an iron foundry detonated by Einstürzende Neubauten. Creeping with catlike tread, closing track “Amaranth the Peddler” surrounds Driver’s cryptic lyrics with a pervasive unease more genuinely rattling than any conventional metal release you might care to name."

—Steve Smith

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
tour dates. go see them. they rule rule rule:


08/30 - Nashua, NH @ Drifter's - w/ Ocean
08/31 - Portland, ME @ Space - w/ Ocean
09/01 - Burlington VT @ 242 - Main - w/ Junius, Carrigan, Tell No One,
State Street Residential
09/02 - Ottawa, ON (or anywhere in QC) - PLEASE HELP!
09/03 - Montreal, QC @ Main Hall - w/ Argon Floozy and Wapstan
09/04 - Amherst, MA @ Mercy House
09/05 - Boston, MA @ TBA
09/06 - Day Off
09/07 - Somerville, MA - Toby & Mia Performance @ P.A.'s Lounge - w/
Dilly Dilly (members of Cerberus Shoal), Fence Kitchen
09/08 - Torrington, CT @ Metropolis Music
09/09 - New York, NY @ Sin-é - w/ Made Out Of Babies, Versoma, Rosetta
09/10 - PLEASE HELP!
09/11 - Asbury Park, NJ @ The Saint - w/ Day Without Dawn, Delft
09/12 - Philadelphia, PA @ The First Unitarian Church - w/ Rosetta,
Belegost, Towers
09/13 - Baltimore, MD @ Talking Head - w/ Neil Michael Hagerty (of Royal
Trux)
09/14 - Baltimore, MD - Forbes Performance @ High Zero Fest
09/15 - Baltimore, MD - Forbes Performance @ High Zero Fest - maybe Toby
& Mia can do a duet somewhere? (please get in touch if you can help!)
09/16 - Baltimore, MD - Forbes Performance @ High Zero Fest - maybe Toby
& Mia can do a duet somewhere? (please get in touch if you can help!)
09/17 - Baltimore, MD - Forbes Performance @ High Zero Fest - maybe Toby
& Mia can do a duet somewhere? (please get in touch if you can help!)
09/18 - Pittsburgh, PA @ TBA
09/19 - Buffalo, NY @ The Soundlab - w/ Novelist
09/20 - Toronto, ON @ The Drake Hotel - w/ Mare
09/21 - MI @ TBA - w/ Larval
09/22 - Indianapolis @ The Secret Location (2455 Broadway St.) - w/ Holy
Bible, Little Boots, Drusilla
09/23 - St Louis, MO (or close by) - PLEASE HELP!
09/24 - Chicago, IL @ The Empty Bottle - w/ Steinski, Trapist, Hamid
Drake/William Parker Duo
09/25 - Milwaukee, WI @ The Cactus Club - w/ Canyons Of Static
09/26 - Des Moines, IA @ Vaudeville Mews - w/ Pinbosx Rhythm Revue
09/27 - Omaha, NE @ O'Leaver's - w/ Shinyville
09/28 - Wichita, KS @ TBA - w/ Ricky Fitts
09/29 - Denver CO @ Monkey Mania - w/ The Autokinoton, Across Tundras,
Black Helicopters
09/30 - Salt Lake City UT @ The Urban Lounge
10/01 - Boise, ID @ TBA
10/02 - Seattle, WA @ The Funhouse - w/ Book Of Black Earth, Sugar
Skulls
10/03 - Portland OR @ the Food Hole - w/ Mustaphamond
10/04 - Eugene, OR @ The Samurai Duck
10/05 - Arcata, CA (or close by) - PLEASE HELP!
10/06 - Chico, CA @ 1078 Gallery - w/ The Makai, Intronaut
10/07 - San Francisco CA @ Hemlock Tavern - w/ Oxbow, Intronaut
10/08 - Santa Cruz, CA @ TBA - w/ Intronaut
10/09 - Santa Barbara, CA @ TBA - w/ Intronaut, Crossbows and Catapults,
Mars, Rhino Charge
10/10 - Los Angeles, CA @ Mountain Bar - w/ Intronaut, Upsilon Acrux
10/11 - Riverside, CA @ Medical Abuse Records
10/12 - Las Vegas, NV - PLEASE HELP!
10/13 - Phoenix, AZ @ Counter Culture Cafe
10/14 - Tucson, AZ @ Skrappy's
10/15 - El Paso, TX @ Zeppelin's
10/16 - Odessa, TX @ The Roadhouse
10/17 - Denton, TX @ Rubber Gloves - w/ The Great Tyrant
10/18 - Houston TX @ Walters on Washington - w/ Tambersauro, Motion
Turns It On
10/19 - Beaumont, TX @ The Vortex
10/20 - Hattiesburg, MS @ The Green Room - w/ That Yellow Bastard
10/21 - Tallahassee, FL @ TBA - w/ Roboteer
10/22 - Tampa, FL @ Transitions Art Gallery
10/23 - West Palm, FL @ Backbone Music - w/ The Catalyst, Entropy,
Crusades
10/24 - Orlando, FL - PLEASE HELP!
10/25 - Atlanta, GA @ The Drunken Unicorn - w/ Ahleuchatistas
10/26 - Chattanooga, TN @ Ziggy's - w/ Ahleuchatistas, Moscow Theater
Siege
10/27 - Nashville TN @ The Muse - w/ Ahleuchatistas
10/28 - Asheville NC @ The Rocket Bar - w/ Ahleuchatistas
10/29 - Anywhere in NC - w/ Grails - PLEASE HELP!
10/30 - Richmond, VA - w/ Grails - PLEASE HELP!
10/31 - Washington DC @ TBA - w/ Grails

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 02:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

10/29 - Anywhere in NC - w/ Grails - PLEASE HELP!


How do I help? I want this to end up being in Charlotte, NC. The perfect club for this type of music: www.milestoneclub.com

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 11:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

1. is the new album any good
2. i ask this because the two older ones are fucking amazing

Just got offed, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm probably in the minority on this, but I was pretty disappointed in the new one. Way more refined and structured, much less "metal" than anything before and much more "classical". I was hoping for a couple freak-out moments, but it stays pretty restrained throughout.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think it's OK but not brilliant.

aldo, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

i've heard a lot of "meh" about the new one, but haven't checked it out yet.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

the new one is just toby and one other person, right? cuz there isn't really a "band" anymore, i don't think. maybe he should have released it under his own name to avoid unfair comparisons.

scott seward, Monday, 2 June 2008 15:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

Toby and the violin playing girl, blanking on her name right now, but also a whole bunch of guest musicians this time around.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 2 June 2008 15:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah he kicked out everyone he wasn't fucking

Just got offed, Monday, 2 June 2008 15:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, pretty uneven, but last three tracks are strong. My review will be on paperthinwalls sometime.

dow, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

I love the new one, seems like a natural progression from the first two. KD seem to be becoming increasingly fluid and slippery. the lack of explosive moments just enhances their impact when they finally do arrive.

m the g, Monday, 2 June 2008 20:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I agree with your last point. Here'e the review I mentioned:
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=1594

dow, Thursday, 5 June 2008 07:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

Like anime--Toby Driver makes me see Vampire Hunter D, mebbe the same kind of contradictions ("I am blood-celibate, as I hunt my kind under the Law," vs. "I am vast, I *contain*: art, rock, desolation and creation")Triumph Of The Will.

dow, Friday, 6 June 2008 02:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

When "___on limpid form" is the most accurate musical rendition of one's mood, you're in a pretty fucking dark place. I think the 24 hours without food and massive alcohol consumption might have something to do with this. Regardless, it's probably one of the best 20 songs of the decade.

Just got offed, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think I like this a lot but I am basically new to this band and this album is kinda different to what I was expecting.... like I fuck with jazz-rock but feel largely unqualified to say anything intelligent or conclusive about music made in the style

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Have you only got the new record? That's the only one I don't have. The first two are sorta ambient-jazz-metal but even weirder and more esoteric than that sounds.

Just got offed, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Kayo Dot mainman Toby Driver will resurrect his original outfit maudlin of the Well. The cult avant-metal outfit were active from 1996 to 2003 with members going on to form Kayo Dot after its demise, but Driver aims to bring it back by next Spring with a new LP. Speaking to Rock-A-Rolla, he stated: “We should be finished by early Spring. I’m trying to get as many of the members involved as possible… Let me be very clear that all the material is very old - it won’t have anything to do with my current compositional mind and the purpose of this revival project is to just bring these old pieces to the fans. The music will be released completely for free.”

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, cool.

wind and wtfering (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 30 November 2008 10:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

I tried hard to like the new album, but couldn't, and wrote about why here, sort of:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/11/oh-well-guess-w.html

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 November 2008 14:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't think i ever got around to hearing the last album.

that maudlin of the well news is, um... a little confusing. are they just recording
old stuff that they never got around to recording the first time or re-recording
stuff that did get recorded back then.

in any case, i am totally the grinch of reunions/reformations. i rarely get excited about stuff
like that.

scott seward, Sunday, 30 November 2008 15:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Recordings of old songs that were never recorded.
Scott, I thought you would've been excited by this. It's why I posted it here.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 November 2008 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

aw, sorry, i'm a bummer. like i said, i am seriously ho-hum about reunions or whatever. like poo posting about seeing flux of pink indians, only one of my all-time fave bands, and it doesn't excite me a bit. don't get me wrong, i've seen some enjoyable greybeard shows, chameleons and pretty things being two, but they are too dime a dozen these days. it's easier to name the bands that HAVEN'T gotten back together for some shows then the ones that have. did you know that EVERY SINGLE BAND THAT EVER PLAYED THRASH METAL IN THE 80'S, even if they were only together for a month, has toured between 2000 and 2008. it's true.

"Whatever lies in my past
Or what is yet in the future
Time passes so fast
Suppose there's always the danger
I won't pull through
I'll have to think this thing through
Despite my fear it helps to
Share my nostalgia with you

Tomorrow I'll remember yesterday
Tomorrow I remember yesterday
Tomorrow, remember yesterday
Tomorrow, remember yesterday

Tomorrow, remember yesterday...
Tomorrow, nostalgia will lead me away"

scott seward, Sunday, 30 November 2008 19:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

but i would probably buy a maudlin of the well album of new material. cuz it's not like they were around THAT long ago and their stuff would still sound fresh and creative today, i'm sure.

scott seward, Sunday, 30 November 2008 19:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm glad Chuck Stern's doing stuff, I miss Time of Orchids.

That live album from Krakow is well worth listening to if anyone's a megafan, btw, especially if you're like me and think Tartar Lamb II is one of Driver's high watermarks

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 18 July 2014 21:51 (two years ago) Permalink

I've not heard any Driver solo. Might have to change that.

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Friday, 18 July 2014 21:52 (two years ago) Permalink

I recommend this http://kayodot.bandcamp.com/album/polyimage-of-known-exits (makes a good companion piece to Coyote) and the 1st half his solo album on Tzadik but it's not what I think of as friday night music to be honest

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:00 (two years ago) Permalink

oh I've been following your tastes quite assiduously ultros; your predilection for speed-garage has been noted

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:03 (two years ago) Permalink

BANGIN BEATZ M8 (do people still say that? did they ever?)

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:08 (two years ago) Permalink

more than ever, tbh

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:15 (two years ago) Permalink

I tried to get into Time of Orchids, but they just seemed too "pleasant sounding" for my tastes, which is my standard issue with a lot of prog and prog-influenced music.

sarahell, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:25 (two years ago) Permalink

The thing with Time of Orchids for me was underneath the lush harmonies there were usually these churning jagged riffs and all sorts of stuff going on underneath. Pleasant a lot of the time but a lot more going on underneath. I don't think many people like them as much as I do to be honest which is probably why they broke up!!!

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:37 (two years ago) Permalink

They were a good band. I booked them at my venue back in the day. I just felt like had the stuff that was going on "underneath" been more on the surface I would have liked them more.

sarahell, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:39 (two years ago) Permalink

I never heard them sound *merely* pleasant---more like lulling you, while slipping the needle in---then, yes, a lot more going on underneath(maybe it worked better in the studio?)

dow, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:40 (two years ago) Permalink

I am perfectly willing to be in the minority on this one. It's hard for me to articulate sometimes why some music gives me the "close but no cigar" feeling, and as far as Time of Orchids goes, I definitely had that feeling, as opposed to the more common, "no." A friend of mine once said that he liked his prog to be less "nice" and more "garlicky" -- and I feel like Time of Orchids didn't have enough garlic for me to adore.

sarahell, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:48 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Maybe this belongs here rather than on Rolling Metal:

I saw Zvi (Rob Zvi Varod of Kayo Dot) on Saturday night. He's doing some interesting work with solo processed guitar (+ a synth box) and vocals: more dark doom/drone-like compared to Kayo Dot. At times, it reminds me a bit of Cathedral; sometimes a bit Sunn O))) (?); sometimes he just uses subtle drones, hums, and noises to support the vocals: http://ronzvivarod.bandcamp.com/album/zvi

I've been streaming to the album since then and enjoying

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:01 (two years ago) Permalink

it

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:01 (two years ago) Permalink

cool, will scope out! weirdly enough kayo dot have just today previewed a song from their new album:

https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/kayo-dot-library-subterranean

i can't hear that right now either due to internet difficulties. you'll have to fill me in

imago, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:51 (two years ago) Permalink

I guess everything on the Bandcamp is guitar + voice, actually.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:56 (two years ago) Permalink

OK so I've listened to the new song a couple of times now and I'm somewhat impressed.

It starts like something off Coyote but prettier, with some great basslines then goes into the 'song' section which sounds like Vaura and is somewhat conventional. I don't really like the synth sounds or some of the vocal affectations much (I've already voiced my reservations about retro 80s gubbins). After that though it gets proggy as fuck, some nice polyrhythmic stuff in there. I really really like the riff that covers the last third or so of the track, but I'm a little bit disappointed that it just sort of rattles along for a few minutes before having a sax solo and ending abruptly. The drumming is fucking phenomenal, though.

But I must say for the first time to me KD sounds more like an actual 'band' than ever before than a Toby Driver project (though I know it's just that), probably because for the first time there's been two albums in a row with largely the same lineup.

...I write more about this band than any other for some reason. Well, someone has to.

a proclamation of tortoise intent (ultros ultros-ghali), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:39 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah I really liked it right up until that fucking saxophone clodded clumsily in, as if to remind us all why Hubardo was a signal case of 'too many cooks'. Until then, much better than almost all of Hubardo, which I mostly thought dull (sorry), the big exception (as stated) being the monolithic opener (which everyone else hated for some reason)

But yeah, the section just before the sax is kinda awesome & I'm somewhat excited. Think Driver's a precious wanker obv (it's mostly the lyrics) but an enlightened one

imago, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 15:16 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/kayo-dot-coffins-on-io-stream

First two tracks are fucking awesome. They sound nothing like Kayo Dot, really - synth-led gothic excursions - as if Coyote was the blueprint for some darkwave reinvention

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 11:22 (two years ago) Permalink

like, people who liked the Brendan Perry solo album from a few years back would dig this

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 11:23 (two years ago) Permalink

OK so I really like this. It's very atmospheric, and it's good how it's still recognisably KD (to me anyway), though in a different form. It's kind of odd hearing them sound so 'pop'.

My biggest criticism is that a few sections outstay their welcome, the outros to Offramp Cycle and Library Subterranean in particular. They don't seem to go anywhere, in contrast to, say, the last part Abyss Hinge pt. 2 where there are a lot of little variations over the repetitive bass riff.

Assassination of Adam is probably my favourite track, it captures the same kind of roiling chaos as many Hubardo cuts without the 'metal.'

Anyway, I'm surprised at how much I like this considering the eye-rolling disdain I have for much of the record's influences.

leprous mottlings of disturbing funghi (ultros ultros-ghali), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:20 (two years ago) Permalink

Wow, this sounds very nice, even though the descriptions left me a little unsure.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:37 (two years ago) Permalink

I love the new record. It's very similar to the David Sylvian records made w/ Robert Fripp. The Brendan Perry comparison is pretty on the nose too.

Oblique Strategies, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:46 (two years ago) Permalink

Oct 28, 2006 23:23 ET, Apparently, in addition to being KO'd, Ott injured his ankle as he fell to the ice and will be out of action for quite some time.

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:51 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't know the Sylvian/Fripp records! I'll definitely listen to them. I mostly just know the track Sylvian did with Fennesz, which is awesome.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:53 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Note free show in Miami (like Miami needs any more gifties)

Hey folks,

Kayo Dot is headed down the U.S. East Coast this week for a string of shows in support of our latest album, "Coffins on Io." The dates are listed below, and here's a link to the Facebook event page for the whole tour– you can add yourself to the guest list to receive general updates.

https://www.facebook.com/events/778414258862658/

Hope to see you out there!

Thursday, January 8, 2015
Gallery 5
200 W Marshall St., Richmond, VA

Friday, January 9, 2015
The Milestone Club
3400 Tuckaseegee Rd., Charlotte, NC

Saturday, January 10, 2015
The Pilot Light
106 E Jackson Ave., Knoxville, TN

Sunday, January 11, 2015
The Mothlight with AHLEUCHATISTAS
701 Haywood Rd, Asheville, NC

Monday, January 12, 2015
Local 506
Chapel Hill, NC

Tuesday, January 13, 2015
Conundrum
626 Meeting Street, West Columbia, SC

Wednesday, January 14, 2015
TBA in Savannah, GA

Thursday, January 15, 2015
The Orpheum
1902 Republica de Cuba Ave., Tampa, FL

Friday, January 16, 2015
Gramps Bar
176 Northwest 24th Street, Miami, FL
Free show!

Saturday, January 17, 2015
Backbooth
37 W Pine St., Orlando, FL

Sunday, January 18, 2015
TBA - Gainesville, FL or Birmingham, AL

Monday, January 19, 2015
529 Bar
529 Flat Shoals Avenue Southeast, Atlanta, GA

Tuesday, January 20, 2015
TBA - Greensboro, NC

Wednesday, January 21, 2015
The Metro Gallery
1700 North Charles Street, Baltimore, MD

Thursday, January 22, 2015
Johnny Brenda's
with PLANNING FOR BURIAL and INFINIEN
1201 N Frankford Ave., Philadelphia, PA

Friday, January 23, 2015
Just Be Cause
1013 West State Street, Ithaca, NY

Saturday, January 24, 2015
The Shop with GNAW and SANGUINISTAS
234 Starr St., Brooklyn, NY

Many thanks,
Toby Driver
on behalf of Kayo Dot
http://kayodot.net
http://kayodot.bandcamp.com

dow, Thursday, 8 January 2015 00:29 (two years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

West Coast dates, also note Maudlin later on:

Hello all! Just a quick message to let you know about some MASSIVE live actions this summer.

Firstly, Kayo Dot will be touring the US West Coast, beginning next week, accompanied by Seattle's DUST MOTH (ex-members of These Arms Are Snakes, Minus the Bear, Shift). It's our first West Coast tour since 2011, and will include our first Las Vegas appearance ever. Here are the dates:

Thursday, June 25, 2015
Hemlock Tavern
1131 Polk St., San Francisco, CA
Also Playing: Dust Moth, Kowloon Walled City

Friday, June 26, 2015
Sweet Springs Saloon
990 Los Osos Valley Road, Los Osos CA
Also Playing: Dust Moth

Saturday, June 27, 2015
The Tower Bar
4757 University Avenue, San Diego, CA
Also Playing: Dust Moth

Sunday, June 28, 2015
Complex
Los Angeles, CA
Also Playing: Dust Moth

Tuesday, June 30, 2015
Bunkhouse Saloon
124 S 11th St., Las Vegas, NV
Also Playing: Dust Moth

Wednesday, July 1, 2015
Kilby Court
741 S Kilby Ct., Salt Lake City, UT
Also Playing: Dust Moth

Thursday, July 2, 2015
Crazy Horse
Boise, ID
Also playing: Dust Moth

Friday, July 3, 2015
The Hindenburg
Vancouver, BC
Also Playing: Dust Moth

Saturday, July 4, 2015
Highline
210 Broadway East, Seattle, WA
Also Playing: Dust Moth, Dama/Libra

Sunday, July 5, 2015
Panic Room (formerly Tonic)
Portland, OR
Also Playing: Dust Moth

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Shortly after that, in late August, I'll be having a residency/retrospective at The Stone in New York City. Two concerts per night, each one different, featuring music and musicians from my entire career up until this point. The calendar is below. If you can make it to NYC in August for any of these shows, it would mean a lot to me. Please note: The capacity of the venue is about 70, and there are no advance ticket sales. So if you come from out of town, you should expect to show up a couple hours early to wait in line. The weather here should be nice and sunny, but not too humid, during that week. :) http://thestonenyc.com/

8 and 10 pm
Maudlin of the Well
Toby Driver (guitar, vocals) Greg Massi, Josh Seipp (guitars) Sam Gutterman (drums) Terran Olson (woodwinds, keys) Jason Byron (vocals, keys) Special Guests Ron Varod (bass) Mia Matsumiya (violin)
mOTW's first performances in 14 years. Two different sets, TWENTY DOLLARS each

8/26 Wednesday
8 pm
Kayo Dot plays Choirs of the Eye
Toby Driver (guitar, bass, vocals) Greg Massi, Ron Varod (guitars) Sam Gutterman (guitar, bass) Keith Abrams (drums) Dan Means (woodwinds, keys) Mia Matsumiya (violin) Tim Byrnes (brass, keys) Terran Olson (woodwinds, keys)
TWENTY DOLLARS

10 pm
Ichneumonidae, and Kayo Dot plays Stained Glass
Toby Driver (guitar, bass, vocals) Timba Harris (violin) Russell Greenberg (percussion) Terran Olson (rhodes, synth) Keith Abrams (drums) Tim Byrnes (synth) Ron Varod (guitar) Mia Matsumiya (violin) Dan Means (clarinet, sax, keys)

8/27 Thursday
8 pm
Tartar Lamb: Sixty Metonymies
Toby Driver (guitar) Mia Matsumiya (violin) Jeremiah Cymerman (clarinet, electronics) Tim Byrnes (trumpet) David Bodie (percussion)

10 pm
Toby Driver: New Chamber Works
Timba Harris (violin)
New compositions for violin.

8/28 Friday
8 pm
Toby Driver, Greg Massi, and Nick Hudson
Toby Driver (guitar, voice) Greg Massi (guitar) Nick Hudson (piano, voice)
A special collaboration between these MOTWOGs and the brilliant British songwriter and composer from Academy of Sun.

10 pm
Toby Driver: Ballads
Toby Driver (piano, guitar, voice)
For the haters.

8/29 Saturday
8 pm
Stern
Chuck Stern (vocals, composition) Toby Driver (guitar, vocals) Keith Abrams (drums) Tim Byrnes (synth)
Sinewy, through-composed pop-as-distress-signal.

10 pm
Kayo Dot plays Coyote
Toby Driver (bass, vocals) Mia Matsumiya (violin) Terran Olson (keys) Keith Abrams (drums) David Bodie (percussion) Dan Means (alto sax) Tim Byrnes (trumpet) Ron Varod (synth)

8/30 Sunday

8 pm
The Tanks
Ches Smith (drums) Brandon Seabrook (guitar) Toby Driver (bass)
Loud.

10 pm
Kayo Dot plays current material
Toby Driver (bass, synths, voice) Ron Varod (guitar) Keith Abrams (drums) Daniel Means (sax, synths)

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Thanks for reading, and hope to see you at a show!

dow, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:28 (two years ago) Permalink

There's no way in hell I'll make it to these. Wrong side of the Atlantic and poor. I just hope some of it is recorded esp. the motW sets.

meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 14:50 (two years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Is anyone else looking forward to their new album?

sounds glorious! " a hopeless dead and polluted world transitioning into artifice and mechanism and reacting by being self-destructive, either to the point of utter obliteration or a glorious transhuman condition."

Apparently it's out next month?

drowsing anemone, Saturday, 14 May 2016 21:48 (one year ago) Permalink

i feel bad cuz i listened to a maudlin of the well album the other day and i wasn't feeling it. i think i'm too old now. they were probably really young when they made that stuff. just the juxtapositions of emo/heavy/etc didn't grab me like when i first heard it. but i should play the other ones too. i think i played Bath. haven't played any of them in so long.

scott seward, Saturday, 14 May 2016 23:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I considered bringing this up but I thought I was the only one to give a shit. I was hoping they'd leave behind the whole 80s thing this time and they certainly haven't if the new track's anything to go by but I quite like it anyway.

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 15 May 2016 00:05 (one year ago) Permalink

i maybe 70% give a shit

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Sunday, 15 May 2016 00:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Kind of cringing at my posts upthread about Coffins on Io since in hindsight it's definitely my least favourite KD album.

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 15 May 2016 00:18 (one year ago) Permalink

It's grown on me a bit tbh. There's an instrumental lineup floating around that suggests this will be a lot more detailed than the last one... on the other tracks it seems. Trying not to have expectations either way though

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 16 May 2016 14:35 (one year ago) Permalink

hey I really like it now

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 21:17 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

this is p cool

imago, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 10:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Not really feeling this one too much sadly. On paper I would really dig a Kayo Dot album inspired by Japanese avant-pop but that stuff is usually quite eccentric and playful; Driver's musical sensibilities are too gloomy to pull it off that convincingly.

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

what was the consensus then

imago, Saturday, 24 September 2016 15:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

The consensus seems to be that this is one of the best things KD have ever done, which to me is madness since it's easily the worst. If I heard PHOBOS blind I probably would have dismissed it as 80s fetishist hipster crap... it's probably better than that though. Probably.

banhammers of misfortune (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 24 September 2016 15:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

Youre too hard on that stuff tbh

the coyotes have taken over the town (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 25 September 2016 03:09 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, maybe... I'm really not a fan of those sorts of sounds though, as I can't help but make clear. But, sometimes it's taken me a few years and another couple of releases to put a KD album into context before I get into it more so there's a chance I'll warm to this down the line.

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 25 September 2016 13:36 (eight months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

just got this e-mail:

We're heading out today for a 3-week run in the US (and Toronto), in support of our new album, PLASTIC HOUSE ON BASE OF SKY ( via http://nowflensing.com/ )! Check the dates here or at http://www.kayodot.net/ to see if there's one near you!

10/21 @ Gorham Brothers Music
Syracuse, NY

10/22 @ The Baby G -
Toronto, ON, Canada

10/23 @ Cobra Lounge -
Chicago, IL

10/24 @ Vaudeville Mews -
Des Moines, IA

10/25 @ Fubar - St Louis, MO

10/27 @ The Lost Well -
Austin, TX

10/29 @ Mammal Gallery -
Atlanta, GA

10/30 @ Upsidedown Plaza -
Birmingham, AL

10/31 @ The Milestone Club -
Charlotte, NC

11/1 @ Neptune's -
Raleigh, NC

11/2 @ Strange Matter -
Richmond, VA

11/3 @ Orion Sound Studios -
Baltimore, MD

11/4 @ Trans-Pecos -
NYC (Ridgewood), NY

11/5 @ Kung Fu Necktie
Philadelphia, PA

Thanks for reading, and hope to see you!

Toby Driver/Kayo Dot

dow, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

From Toby Driver:

Just wanted to send a quick note out about a couple big dealie shows and releases happening these next two months. Thanks for your eyes and ears–

Coming in a few weeks (April 21), The Flenser will be releasing my long-awaited solo ballads album, MADONNAWHORE. The album also features members of Kayo Dot on various songs. Simultaneously, The Flenser will be releasing a repress of Kayo Dot's 2013 triple-vinyl LP, HUBARDO (on both 3xLP and CD). You can preorder both now, via http://nowflensing.com in the Americas or http://www.deathwishinc.eu/products/587443-toby-driver-madonnawhore for Europeans.

Concerts:

March 16: I'll be performing some of these ballads at SXSW in Austin, Texas, and will be hanging out there for the week. Check out (and add) my Facebook page for further details: http://facebook.com/tobydriverofficial

March 21: I'll be presenting the songs from MADONNAWHORE, plus an entire set of completely new, never-before-heard ballads, accompanied by a band that includes violins, grand piano, organ, and percussion, at the beautiful theatre of Roulette Intermedium in downtown Brooklyn, NY. This is very likely the only time this music will ever be presented this way, so don't miss it. Check out the event page and preorder your tickets: http://roulette.org/event/toby-driver-madonnawhore-with-string-noise/

March 23-31: Kayo Dot will be joining the awesome PALLBEARER and MARISSA NADLER for a short tour. We're the opening band (we play at 8pm), so come early! Dates are listed below, and visit http://kayodot.net for any updates as they happen. I'm also excited to announce that David Bodie, who recorded with us on our 2010 album, COYOTE, and toured with the band from 2009-2011, will be handling drum duties for this tour. In addition, I'm very happy to announce the addition of a new, second guitarist, Matthew Serra, for this tour. Some of the shows will feature two guitarists (Ron and Matt) and some will have just one. Kayo Dot hasn't had a guitar-guitar-bass-drums configuration onstage in a long time, so this will be a real heavy treat.

THU 23 MARCH
The End, Nashville, TN

SAT 25 MARCH
Music Hall of Williamsburg, Brooklyn, NY

SUN 26 MARCH (Marissa Nadler and Kayo Dot - no Pallbearer on this show)
WFMU Monty Hall, Jersey City, NJ

TUE 28 MARCH
Grog Shop, Cleveland Heights, OH

WED 29 MARCH
Pyramid Scheme, Grand Rapids, MI

THU 30 MARCH
The 5th Quarter Lounge, Indianapolis, IN

FRI 31 MARCH
Thalia Hall, Chicago, IL

dow, Thursday, 16 March 2017 19:47 (three months ago) Permalink

of course that's what his album of solo ballads is called

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 16 March 2017 19:54 (three months ago) Permalink

probably the worst lyricist in the avant-garde scene, maybe the worst ever

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 16 March 2017 19:55 (three months ago) Permalink

From May of '08, here's the KD review I mentioned way upthread, for the long-gone Paper Thin Walls, where we spotlit new tracks --the ones cleared for posting were not always the best on the album, but this selection was pretty good.

Kayo Dot: “Symmetrical Arizona”
from Blue Lambency Downward (Hydra Head)
Out Now rating: 7.0

Kayo Dot, led by the versatile singer/multi-instrumentalists Toby Driver and Mia Matsumiya (who is especially evocative on violin), have a way of trailing guitars, bass, drums, sax, vibes, clarinet, gamelan, keyboards, et cetera, through traces of metal, avant jazz, and Late 20th Century-based Western takes on Eastern music, sometimes sketching out vast dayscapes of seemingly emptied beauty, along the way. Yet there’s also a furtive, sometimes tingling sense of possibilities, too, for Those Who Know: hooded figures, bowed but still standing on the verge of getting it on, one more time. So their albums are tantalizing enough, though promising passages through the vastness can knock up against too many dramatic pauses, too many creeping beats. Still, Blue Lambency Downward eventually lives up (and down) to its title, with a concluding arc of tracks, saving the best for last. “The Awkward Wind Wheel” keeps wobbling until it’s pulled through an avalanche by bass and drums, right through trees of smoke and ganglia (strings and woodwinds), on through the parting spikes of “The Useless Ladder,” into “Symmetrical Arizona,” where damn if woodwinds and maybe cellos don’t grown and press contemplation into the hollow heads of abandoned gods of vanished cliff-dwellers, as thee coalescing image of a prodigious prodigal, no bigger than a Kayo Dot, gauges and gouges a valley of personal mythology(dropping in: percussive beads, talons, wine-streaked sheet music, flapping like wings), until it’s raised from the dry undertow of his affectations, casting and rattling real-enough shadows across my virtual attention span, for quite a while.

dow, Thursday, 16 March 2017 20:05 (three months ago) Permalink

I DO hate that title, but

probably the worst lyricist in the avant-garde scene, maybe the worst ever

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 16 March 2017 19:55 (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...hardly, and I'm not huge on his lyrics, though tbh most of what he sings is written by Jason Byron anyway.

I quite like that new track, I have a feeling I'll probably enjoy this more than the last KD album

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 16 March 2017 20:27 (three months ago) Permalink

oh that's true re: Byron

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 16 March 2017 21:15 (three months ago) Permalink

the fact that Kayo Dot are the opening act for Pallbearer and Nadler just proves again how little justice there is in this tasteless, ridiculous world

Wimmels, Thursday, 16 March 2017 21:37 (three months ago) Permalink


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