Smith & Mighty S&D

And the awesome eerie dub of the second half, which is like a really consistent, non-crossover-obsessed Protection.

But the early stuff is really my favourite. I should get their DJ Kicks mix eh.

Heard Norman Jay play it many yrs ago - the Frankie Foncett house mix - and absolutely blew me away. Kills the original. Beautiful melancholy tune.

I know Ashford and Simpson wrote the original - does anyone know if they recorded a version?

This tune is the pinnacle of that whole Bristol movement. Vocals by Carlton - I'm sure Smith and Mighty had a hand in this. Can be found on the 12" of Daydreaming. Avoid the Larry Heard mix of this though.

Love his mix of Closer - put his mix of that alongside Sashas and Sashas comes out sounding weak and pale.

Did a great remix of De La Soul Breakadawn.

Apparently he is now dj-ing chart r+b in West End nightclubs mores the pity...

If you want a bunch (about 50) of their remixes and live sets, check my slsk folders. I've also got their Essential Mix from 1996. And More Rockers Selection Vols 1-3 (#3 only released in Japan for some reason, is one of the best ones).

I often forget how utterly mindcrushingly awesome their remix of Beats International's "Dub Be Good To Me" is. And then I remember.
-- Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:12 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

^^^

I haven't heard much of the stuff they released under their own name, but Carlton's "Do You Dream" is an ultimate deep house classic. I especially like the "No Bass Mix" of the tune released on this comp.

Banriquit if you truly loved me you would stoop to posting a link to the remix, as I lost it some time ago.

I've always been fascinated by these guys and all their friends. So prescient! Have never heard Flynn and Flora or More Rockers apart from the stuff on S&M's DJ Kicks. Interesting to think that Flynn was in Fresh 4 (produced by S&M) with Suv and Krust who went on to join Reprazent - you get the impression that when jungle emerged it just completely blew away this entire generation of Bristolian producers into dub, hip hop, pop etc... "Why didn't we think of that?!?!" But I can hear really really strongly the sonic connection with this earlier stuff in New Forms, even though it and S&M/More Rockers etc. sound quite different.

ain't no thang, i'll get on it.

the first more rockers LP (1995) goes for about £50 -- it's supposed to be dece.

seems to have been some kind of music-biz contracts-fuck that kept them less high-profile than roni size.

Thanks!

To be honest, "Anyone" and "Walk On By" could be stronger - the music's great but it never seems to quite gel with the weirdly deep and reticent sounding vocals. Maybe I just get distracted by the enormity of the task of even hoping to match Bacharach's two best songs (S&M in sharing my taste exactly shocker).

But "Come On Back" and the "Dub Be Good To Me" remix are just unimpeachable - how great are those string stabs that come in halfway through "Come On Back"? Someone should do a more general search'n'destroy on pop songs from end of the 80s/beginning of the 90s with awesome reggae piano vamps.

I loved Carlton's 'Cool With Nature' at the time (1990). It had great atmosphere and seemed different to a lot of the other stuff around at that time. It was sparse and dubby, but also had hints (eg the low piano bass figure) of Mantronix style Latin hip hop of the '80s.

alrighty, here till they aren't:

http://download.yousendit.com/3223A0E556D153DD

http://download.yousendit.com/75DD9CC67671F89B

Oh that is brilliant, I kiss you with lips.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/847/cryingeagle8oq.jpg

Listening to the faster remix again, it strikes me that its business and sparkliness actually drags the tune back towards the SOS Band, only with S&M's relaxed dub-pop vibe where the stiff electro-pop should be.

I would love for any of our female posters to confirm whether or not bass is, in fact, maternal...

Finally listening to Carlton's The Call Is Strong album from 1990, entirely produced by S&M. I had only heard "Come On Back" previously.

This is pretty amazing. The housier* bits remind me a lot of Bobby Kondors from about that time.

*(by which i mean bits that take from house, none of it actually becomes full-blown house)

Their cover of Diana Ross's Remember Me from 1994 is pretty wonderful - I once knew someone who wanted it played at their funeral.

Also, this ^^^^

haha sigh some guy on slsk is only letting me have 'love & pain' off the carlton album and he insists the rest is "barely listenable"

did u procure it online perchance tim?

http://qooy.com/files/MUVLCCGB/Carlton.rar

This page in general is a bit of a goldmine:

http://forum.funkysouls.com/dump/f57t39741n20.html

THANKING U! you are sure it's not barely listenable though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MNyRavnTeE

^ 'do you dream' og video

ah ok them, i have made occasional use of their funky thread in the past.

It is much more than barely listenable, trust.

I didn't know Carlton released a full album! Gotta check that one out, "Do You Dream" is one of my favourite house tunes of all time.

Any love for Big World Small World here? I haven't listened in a while. My copy somehow didn't make it with me a few moves ago. But I have fond memories, particularly of "Move You Run" and "No Justice."

Um... the Carlton album is kinda brilliant. For years I've thought "It's a real shame that Smith & Mighty never made an album circa 1990, yet here it is, and Carlton's performances are all awesome as well.

Re Big World Small World, I only know the stuff that was included on Retrospective (including the above two songs) but I love those and keep meaning to check out the rest of the album.

not one for the drugz metaphors usually but seem to have developed a mild opioid addiction to this carlton record.

sow a seed in time... for sustenance we vie...

btw tim there is a konders mix of carlton as it goes:

http://www.discogs.com/Carlton-Cool-With-Nature-Remix/release/111751

(saw it at the weekend at a market for 75p but didnt really have my rtc hat on firmly enough to bother buying it.)

I'm sure it's perfect.

not one for the drugz metaphors usually but seem to have developed a mild opioid addiction to this carlton record.

By far my most listened-to record this past month. I was gonna say "esp I Know and Indication To You" but then I look at the tracklist again and really, every song is amazing.

I think I'd always half-imagined a record like this existing, but sort of resigned myself to never finding the real fleshy thing.

It perplexes me that more people aren't retrospectively flipping out over this album. How can we promote the existence of this thread and its associated treasures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h9lqbIqagM

Finally tracked down and am listening to the Carlton record after seeing Tim's recommendation floating around some random thread at some point. This is breathtaking stuff.

How good is it!?!?

It's so damn good. The only thing frustrating is that Google informed me about this: http://soul-vendor.blogspot.ca/2008/07/carlton-do-you-dream-1990.html

Which featured a 'Do You Dream Part 2: Can't Pay Won't Pay" - a dance marathon with lots of breakdowns, but the link is down b/c Meg4upl04d.

that 2 carlton tracks you posted are amazing. tried to download the album, but that link is dead...

also, because of that great 'essential mixes' thread, i've been listening to the smith & mighty one = absolute classic

I will upload the album again soon, this is one release I feel very passionate about proselytising.

heh i felt the same, upload is in process

perhaps a treat in the meantime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeMXmlXzsHY

neither smith nor mighty, nor even english by the looks of it, but... god just listen to that

k rusty, click the name

http://www.factmag.com/2012/04/30/the-essential-smith-mighty/

http://gtvdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/fresh-prince-carlton-banks-400a111306.jpg

weirds me out that this dude had a second career in house music

but that "do you dream" video up there is kind of amazing. not the video, which i'm not even watching, but the song. is the whole album this good? replaying. want.

Ordered myself a copy of the Carlton a few weeks ago based on your proselytising, Tim. I say order it, to all curious. The highlights are posted here, but the whole thing is a beauty, really. And you can find it for cheap. Just glanced at Discogs and you can score one for a fiver or less. The CD goes for $40, curiously.

k rusty, click the name

― r|t|c

just saw this today. bless.

xp : that la rue (?) track is amazing. since i've obsessively listening to the s&m essential mix for the past few days, this whole thread makes absolute sense atm.

just heard a couple of days ago this amazing stopeverythingaroundme song on NTS, and it's Carlton's Do You Dream?

had no idea there's even an album!

It perplexes me that more people aren't retrospectively flipping out over this album

i am now!!

This makes me so happy. One of my favourite albums.

oh wait, this is the same melody as U96's Club Bizarre. I love this

claim to fame: i DJ'd either side of Rob Smith last NYE and he seemed remarkably baffled by my Serato set-up

thank you deej and tim for putting me onto the call is strong which i can't stop listening to and which has changed my life forever

you need to come over to the streetsoul thread

https://www.testpressing.org/magazine/producers-series-31smith-mighty

seems to have been removed from the download sections which is a shame as its a cracking mix.

also, i had no idea re Carlton other than his involvement with Bomb the Bass on 'One to One Religion', from the Clear album.

this one is gorgeous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9zcNo9fbIk

been hammering 'drowning' off 'bass is maternal', still can't believe how good it is tbh. god bless smith & mighty