― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 12 November 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 12 November 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Saturday, 12 November 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link
If I could OP5...1. Special Care2. Mr. Soul3. Questions4. Rock & Roll Woman5. Broken Arrow
― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 12 November 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Saturday, 12 November 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 12 November 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 13 November 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 November 2005 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Sunday, 13 November 2005 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 13 November 2005 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 13 November 2005 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 13 November 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― AaronK (AaronK), Sunday, 13 November 2005 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link
yah gotta go with expecting to fly.
― wilter, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Ì am with you on that one. Wonderful slightly psych pop-like song. And completely unlike anything Neil Young has ever done since.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Another vote for "Expecting to Fly." Unlike anything anyone has done since. "Mr. Soul" is great but any archaeologist could date it within three years.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm just in love with Mr Soul at the moment
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Mr. Soul / Open My Eyes would have been the greatest split single ever released. (/off-topic ramble)
― WmC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Cdn-born drummer Dewey Martin of Buffalo Springfield dies at 6811 hours ago
NEW YORK — Dewey Martin, the Canadian-born drummer for '60s rock band Buffalo Springfield, has died.
Rolling Stone reports that Martin died Jan. 31 of unknown causes in Van Nuys, Calif. He was 68.
According to the Rolling Stone report, Martin not only sang backup on the Buffalo Springfield hit "For What It's Worth," he also provided the LSD to Stephen Stills that inspired him to write the song.
After the band fell apart in 1968, Martin tried to carry on by forming the New Buffalo Springfield, which led to legal battles.
He later became a car mechanic.
Martin, who grew up in the Ottawa area, was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with the rest of Buffalo Springfield in 1997.
He was born Walter Milton Dwayne Midkiff and began playing drums at age 13, according to the online music encyclopedia Allmusic.com.
After moving to the U.S. he worked as a touring drummer with performers including Roy Orbison, the Everly Brothers and Patsy Cline
― velko, Saturday, 7 February 2009 04:40 (fifteen years ago) link
RIP :(
― ian, Saturday, 7 February 2009 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Apparently this is the only Buffalo Springfield thread on ILM, so I'm reviving it without picking one. I'm listening to the May 5 1968 Long Beach show, and it's great. I think I finally get why Neil says that the Springfield really was best as a live band and it never came across on record. The sound's not great, but for what I can hear (vocals, drumming, Neil's guitar) the playing is uniformly excellent. Stills' voice sounds especially great (and does well on drums on "Good Time Boy"). This "Clancy" might be definitive. And Neil sounds hilariously midwest when talking, more than he does in 1973, say.
― deep olives (Euler), Monday, 10 August 2009 08:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I haven't listened to this but it's kinda neat that it even exists at all
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 18 February 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
weird. Buffalo Springfield is playing this year's Bridge Benefit: http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2010/09/bridge-school-concert-lineup-for-2010.html
― tylerw, Monday, 13 September 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
http://rustfest.org/allonesong/BSB2010SAT/sorry that i missed it
― KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Friday, 29 October 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=615
― tylerw, Friday, 29 October 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
is it good?
― Euler, Friday, 29 October 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Out of My Mind
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 October 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
haven't listened to it yet ... i'm usre it'll be ok, though probably not mindblowing or anything.
― tylerw, Friday, 29 October 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I got through the first two songs...I hope they made a lot of money for the Bridge School, but that was pretty rough. I'll go back and listen to more later.
― Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Friday, 29 October 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, SO awesome hearing those guys do "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing!"
― timellison, Friday, 29 October 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/exclusive-buffalo-springfield-to-reunite-for-fall-tour-20110210
― buzza, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow.
― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link
seems pretty iffy -- why would david crosby be confirming this? not saying it won't happen but the story is kinda weird.
― tylerw, Saturday, 12 February 2011 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Despite earlier reports, Buffalo Springfield will not be hitting the road early next year after canceling plans to tour this fall. And Stephen Stills says they probably won’t tour for a while. He tells us, “Neil [Young] started a book and said, ‘Don’t mess with the muse, man.’” Stills adds that he’ll probably tour next summer with Crosby, Stills and Nash.
kind of interesting about the "book."
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
feelin bluebird lately
― a lil weezy goes a long way (will), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
kinda feeling ALL of the LA rock scene of the 60s lately -- you seen this? http://crystalsphere1.blogspot.com/2011/07/la-gemstones-rock-box-compilation-5-cds.htmlamazing stuff.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
nice!
― a lil weezy goes a long way (will), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
Neil's tortured artist persona must be annoying for Stills. He's been bailing on him for nearly 40 years now.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
probably -- but i'm sure stills was plenty annoying too.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
re stills - i know he's a mega-douche and his oeuvre is riddled with crap, but i've been really enjoying that first manassas record and his buffalo springfield stuff the last couple of weeks.
how are those first couple of solo records?
― a lil weezy goes a long way (will), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
whenever possible, I blame Stills
― Euler, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't heard all of the stills records from the 70s, but yeah, manassas is good. my friend was telling me a recent thing of demos from the late 60s/early 70s was great but i haven't heard it.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
you know, i kind of like his voice! it took me a while to get there though. most likely due to hearing "love the one your with" 1 million times and hating it from day one.
― a lil weezy goes a long way (will), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
he can be a great vocalist, and also horribly annoying -- his gruntier stuff is awful a lot of the time.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
"Uno Mundo" is the worst
― Euler, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
awww, I love "Uno Mundo" -- but I admit I would love it more if it were an instrumental
― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
ditto
― Euler, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
stills seemed like the kind of songwriter who thought he could do ~anything~ and be brilliant -- like "i'm the best blues/country/pop/rock/salsa/folk songwriter EVER". if he'd stuck to folk rock, he'd probably be better regarded now.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, if it were an instrumental; as it is it is an abomination
― Euler, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
cocaine's a helluva drug
who is singing on that version?
That's Dewey Martin.
― cwkiii, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link
i totally interviewed richie furay for this uncut magazine story
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWWXqgTUMAEQq1n.jpg:large
i haven't met any other buffalo springfielders but i feel safe in saying that furay is the nicest one.
― tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link
i've also been digging into later poco more, as one does. this version of jj cale's "magnolia" is super.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zachNKsJDJY
― tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
Thanks! Yeah, was thinking of Furay when I commented This 'un is like something unaccountably left off Buffalo Springfield's Last Time Around, but also holds its own--- re this Cowboy vid (over on S/D Southern Rock several others were recently posted---they seem to write songs from experience, but think they like Furay)http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=Bsx0_GUJEBc
― dow, Monday, 19 February 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link
Somehow was vainly hoping this thread would be related to: rejected JBR screen names
― Prometheus Freed's Rock and Roll Pâté (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 February 2018 23:55 (six years ago) link
Oh cool, Palmer's album is on Spotify.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 00:08 (six years ago) link
Nice. I haven't gotten around to Richie Furay's records with Poco etc. It is something I still need to check out.
How much of that LA rock scene actually did shows together? I always got the idea that Buffalo Springfield didn't really play live all that much. Love's original lineup did not play live outside of LA very much. The Doors toured a bunch.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link
There's a complete list of Springfield gigs in the liner notes to their box set. They were pretty busy on on the road, played coast-to-coast, did package tours etc.
― ...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link
First Poco album is the most anyone has ever sounded like Buffalo Springfield outwith Buffalo Springfield.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link
I am hereby changing my pick to Bluebird
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 03:37 (six years ago) link
How much of that LA rock scene actually did shows together? I always got the idea that Buffalo Springfield didn't really play live all that much. Love's original lineup did not play live outside of LA very much. The Doors toured a bunch
If they weren't playing together they still might have seen each other play at the Whiskey A Go Go, the Hollywood Palace, or the Cheetah in Santa Monica. Buffalo Springfield played live quite a lot actually... according to setlist.com:
1966: 61 gigs1967: 139 gigs1968: 68 gigs
― Josefa, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 05:22 (six years ago) link
Richie Furay was the guest of honor.https://star1015fm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2018/01/abcnewsradioonline.comM_BuffaloSpringfieldTribu-5aebeadca8d4760c98d229ed9b05d8865c09b9a1.jpg
― late adopter, Thursday, 22 February 2018 05:29 (six years ago) link
https://star1015fm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2018/01/abcnewsradioonline.comM_BuffaloSpringfieldTribu-5aebeadca8d4760c98d229ed9b05d8865c09b9a1.jpg
― late adopter, Thursday, 22 February 2018 05:30 (six years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/WildHoneyEagleRock/photos/gm.1630155140356684/2137529449814518/?type=3&theater
― late adopter, Thursday, 22 February 2018 08:25 (six years ago) link
Oh hello Mr. Soul, I dropped by to pick up a reason
― nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 22 February 2018 13:32 (six years ago) link
Buffalo Boxed Again: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/buffalo-springfield-whats-that-sound-box/
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 07:51 (five years ago) link
Pretty sure that they disowned the debut because of having no control over recording quality, later (at least some of 'em) therefore considering remastering hopeless? CD I heard did seem fairly harsh, but dunno how would have compared w my long-gone original LP (which I considered good waaay back there, though had a dinky record player so who knows). Having stereo and mono may help. Would rather get this Rhino box first, with all the previously unreleased demos, incl. a number of titles I've never heard of (although it doesn't incl final album)https://www.discogs.com/Buffalo-Springfield-Box-Set/release/2434262
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
That set has most of the final album. It was kind of a dry run for Neil's archives re: compiling quirks (chronological tracklist, curious omissions, alt. takes/mixes in lieu of O.G. versions etc.).
However, if--like me--you had the first box and a copy of Last Time Around, you're good. Seems like the main attraction of the new box is the mono ...Again, which (I think) hasn't been out on CD before, and the upgraded remastering--however the prior remasters sound fine and the debut was never going to sound <amazing> due to flaws in the original production.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
Just googled Ken Viola (writer of of the liners to the first Springfield box, and a much quoted source in Shakey) and found this recent interview , which includes this nugget:
I found out from a collector about a song by Neil Young I had never heard of, “High School Graduation” (which turned out to be a song from his unrecorded first solo album post Buffalo Springfield, about the complexities of feelings & experiences in high school). I obtained the lead sheet from the publisher, and Kevin & I arranged the track. We recorded with Garry Tallent and Vini Lopez. This featured a brilliant duel lead feedback Springfield homage by guitarist Joel Gramolini, and a climatic sax solo. With help from the great concert promoter John Scher (I worked for him many years both part & full time), through Elliot Roberts (I had met him & Neil many times over the years), Neil approved our recording. As far as I know, I am the only one to have released a Neil Young song he has not.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
Hard to beat Bluebird extended
― calstars, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
his unrecorded first solo album post Buffalo Springfield
WANT
― sleeve, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
Glad for Viola & friends; intrepid effort, would like to hear. There were some other covers of then- unreleased Springfield etc. demos, at least one this one album, which I scribbled about on Rolling Country 2008 and Can We Talk About Early West Coast Country Rock etc:Just got through my first listen to reissue of Yellow Hand's s/t from 1970.They do a bunch of Stills and Young songs from a Buffalo Springfield album that never did come out, it sez here (so they're on the bootleg of Stampede?) I think Neil did release a later version of "Down To The Wire." That's the Yellow Hand track where the four-part close harmonies kinda crowd me, plus they sound particularly in there between the Grassroots and Three Dog Night, just this combination of by-the-numbers and overemphasis. But, if you've got any tolerance for Stills early solo and Manassas stuff, this is mostly like that (still chunky harmonies, but with a touch of plaintiveness/querulousness to balance the manliness, and allowing the lyrics to come through just enough, so [modicum of]personality is okay simulated, while dumb complaints and inspiration are not heard too clearly)(also get Neil's sufficiently stylish, punky bitchy folk-rock putdowns on "Sell Out)." And Delaney Bramblett/Mac Davis "God Knows I Love You," which coulda maybe shoulda been a hit for somebody. Also, the lead singer, Jerry Tawney, steps up front on some okay self-writs, and "My World Needs You" would be good for Gary Puckett. Yellow Hand's drummer keeps rushing and then almost stumbling over the beat, and mostly they do seem more singers than players, but overall seems okay.That was a promo from forcedexposure.com, which doesn't have it in stock now, but guess it's around somewhere. All of the originals might be on the xpost Rhino Springfield box, come to think of it----oh yeah here's the covers I heard duh:https://www.discogs.com/Yellow-Hand-Yellow-Hand/release/2933099
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link
And they get some points for giving it a legit (if generally little-known) try in 1970, 31 years before the Rhino box.
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
Would be good to get some of the live stuff in good quality. Though not sure it would be taht much better than what has been circulated.But a 12 minute version of Bluebird with an extensive guitar duel is pretty essential. & other stuff is pretty worth hearing.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
Beg to disagree about the 9-minute 'Bluebird'. Haven't heard it for a while, but one of the more… shall we say, 'noodly' of the Stills/Young guitar duels as I recall. Hard to beat the great banjo/guitar coda on the 'Again' version which it replaces. Might be nice to have it on CD for the first time though, I guess for completists.
― Bloody Snail, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
Anytime I hear someone rave about the long "Bluebird", I think either (A)They must have it confused w/the James Gang version, or (B) they must really be into listening to Stills grunt.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link
haha, yeah Stills vocalizing on the long Bluebird is not great.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link
I've heard several long "Bluebirds" here and there online, over the years: some are even good. Listening to xpost Poco's 1969 debut here: several jangly brisk ones, kind of proto-power pop, and especially like the instrumental "Grand Junction," ballads have the lingering notes that were kind of a Springfield & subsequent config troubadour trademark---more warbly via Neil, more almost-ponderous courtesy Stills (at times), and every track so far benefits from expert detailing to some extent---but several I wouldn't miss atall on A Great Lost Buffalo-type mixtape, which is where I keep wanting the best ones here to be, as every third or fourth or fifth choice in such a mix. Oh well, glad I checked, will prob go on to the s/t one of these days---rat now I'm gonna see if Spotify also has the Rhino box (even if it's OOP, cos they have some of those)(ho, Spotify's slipping in the later Poco track, "Neil Young is not my brother...he's rich as Donald Trump")
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
"You won't find me on his Facebook page..."
This is better than the original Poco, possibly because it's NY-based pastiche pisstake
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
they must really be into listening to Stills grunt.
OTM and LOL. Mr. Stills is certainly feeling that extended Bluebird jam.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
They do have the Rhino box, got the brand new one too.
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link
Neil didn't tell Stephen about the new box: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/stephen-stills-new-buffalo-springfield-box/
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link
Pro Tools has a thing in it where you can feed the record into it and slow it down without changing the record a bit, plus it does really wonderful things to the bass. I hope they employed that
...
― brimstead, Friday, 1 June 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link
Finally occurred to me to check Albums That Never Were, and sure enough, he's got his own Stampede, and as always he tells you exactly why he did it his way, while acknowledging that there are others (discogs has a 20-tracker from Italy, with a number of titles I've never seen before, studio and live from Whittier High etc). But here's this, incl. several tracks that ended up on Again, plausible back story, and links (from 2016) that don't work for me, but I'll look a little further:http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2016/07/buffalo-springfield-stampede.html
― dow, Friday, 1 June 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain)
the one from bonnaroo 2011 is v. nice
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link
xp wow that is a convoluted story, amazing. I don't think the Shakey book goes into that much detail.
― sleeve, Friday, 1 June 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link
Anytime I hear someone rave about the long "Bluebird", I think .... they must really be into listening to Stills grunt.
I believe this is my single favorite ILM post.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 21 December 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link
Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 21 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
Youtube threw these at me today...the legendary private BS reunion in 1986.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWMGFnXHk44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IhUMy4aNnI
Stills w/the headless Steinberger!
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
haha, when I interviewed Furay a little while back he still sounded dismayed by this reunion.
― tylerw, Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link
There's probably an alternate timeline where they kept going and actually made a reunion album that finishes off their careers for good.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:25 (five years ago) link
I watched that Jakob Dylan thing about Laurel Canyon on Netflix a few days ago. Never was familiar with Buffalo Springfield much outside of For What It's Worth and Mr. Soul, but MY GOD EXPECTING TO FLY I NEEDED THIS SONG IN MY LIFE
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link
oh hell yeah
you know "Out Of My Mind" yeah? and "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing"?
― Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:40 (four years ago) link
I heard "On The Way Home" in the wild the other day, and--while I know the band was basically finished when it came out--it still astounds me that it wasn't a huge hit for them or a huge cover for someone else (somebody on Motown perhaps) at the time.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:46 (four years ago) link
I'm learning them now. xp
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link
Another great Neil penned ballad from his time with Buffalo Springfield - Flying On The Ground Is Wong.
I prefer the Rainy Day cover with Kendra Smith singing.
https://youtu.be/fQDym5QZBX09
― that's not my post, Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:40 (four years ago) link
^^ yup that one too
― Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link
Broken Arrow! Kind Woman! Out oF My Mind (esp the demo version from the box)!
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 14 November 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link
A Child's Claim to Fame is a great country-rock tune. One of my favorite songs to sing along to.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link