Kanye West

Think of all the better ways you could spend $2K

New York Times is going to write an article on the people who bought these $2000 tickets

"It was so disappointing. Kanye showed up 3 hours late. And the songs were less antisemitic than we expected."

I like Caspar David Friederich :(

video here gives you some idea of the lyrical content of the LP, if you want that.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/dec/13/kanye-west-wears-ku-klux-klan-style-hood-at-album-listening-event

Also is he going to wear that Karl Havoc outfit and saunter among the crowd at that Vegas event like he did last time?

a bit much to suggest any use of caspar david friedriech (or wagner or whatever) has nazi connotations

the cover does resemble a burzum cover though

i feel like w/antisemitism in music (let alone w/Kanye) it'll get worse before it gets better. vv depressing.

I mean if there's one dude who absolutely does not deserve the benefit of the doubt on something like this

obv fuck him!

just, don't fuck Caspar David afaik

i mean he did design an album cover based on burzum, a known anti semite and nazi sympathizer, for a guy who's said "i love hitler" and has a known history of public anti semitism so i'm not adding him to my christmas card list exactly

hope the media is smart enough to just not cover this

They will ask him if he denounces Hammas

I like Caspar David Friederich :(

Love him. At least Adolf got one thing right.

oh shit I got him confused the designer sorry

Nazis!

https://i.discogs.com/20X-i1olJQ790WMIwkwwadDpPxMYG-_uRDshVGXfYMY/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:599/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE5MTEw/MTEtMTU1MjExMjI4/OC0zMDM0LmpwZWc.jpeg

To my knowledge the Mekons never appeared publicly in KKK hoods.

ooh great idea let’s preemptively defend white musicians from nazi accusations wtf bros

https://i.imgur.com/ENgYcKw.png

jfc

One of those people whose threads should be only bumped when they’re dead imo

The fact that I hadn't heard about this album until looking in this topic, as opposed to seeing it on some of the other notable music website I frequent, like Pitchfork, is a good sign.

Kanye sampled Burzum years ago on Gucci Mane's "Pussy Print"

I'm not gonna listen to this and I don't care either way, but aren't there thousands of ambient/blackmetal covers with a similar aesthetic? Do we know for sure it intentionally references Burzum?

xp Would rule pretty hard if every major blog entirely ignored this album cycle.

I'm not gonna listen to this and I don't care either way, but aren't there thousands of ambient/blackmetal covers with a similar aesthetic? Do we know for sure it intentionally references Burzum?

aren't there thousands of ambient/blackmetal covers with a similar aesthetic?

Yeah, and those are all following Burzum's (aesthetic, and sometimes political) trail too.

xp That's not a good comparison.

"The entire subgenre of ambient blackmetal is nazi apologist"

"The entire subgenre of ambient blackmetal is nazi apologist"

If you don't assume that any given black metal act is Nazi Until Proven Otherwise, you haven't been paying attention the last, oh, 30 years.

hey billstevehim:

Kanye sampled Burzum years ago on Gucci Mane's "Pussy Print"

― c u (crüt), Friday, December 15, 2023 3:41 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

If you don't assume that any given black metal act is Nazi Until Proven Otherwise, you haven't been paying attention the last, oh, 30 years.

You sound smart.

i'm sure kanye was referencing some obscure dungeon synth artist from poland and not burzum the notorious hipster racism/edgelord touchstone/popular t-shirt guy who he already sampled once

I will sign up for the "Kanye is a piece of shit" absolute truth, but no I don't make assumptions about musicians based on their genre unless it's called like "nazi-wave" or something.

Seems likely Kanye was inspired by someone horrible because the patterns point in that direction, and my question was answered so thank you.

sure but what if the artist literally said "I like Hitler" on the Alex Jones show? I mean I hate to make assumptions here

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-praises-adolf-hitler-1235179653/

or said he was going to go "death con 3 on jewish people"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/kanye-west-says-hell-go-to-death-con-3-on-jewish-people-after-instagram-ban/

I'm agreeing with you.

Just a little Nazi-adjacency between friends

"Aw geez guys, how could you assume bad intentions?"

In May 2018, West caused controversy when he said, "When you hear about slavery for 400 years ... for 400 years? That sounds like a choice. You were there for 400 years and it's all of y'all. It's like we're mentally imprisoned."

On October 3, 2022, during his Yeezy SZN 9 fashion show in Paris, West wore a shirt with the script "WHITE LIVES MATTER", a move described by Forbes as controversial. According to the Anti-Defamation League, the phrase is a white supremacist slogan that was created in response to Black Lives Matter protests against police brutality. Conservative commentator Candace Owens posed for a photo with West, while wearing a matching shirt with the slogan. Following the event, West posted a story on his Instagram, stating: "Everyone know that Black Lives Matter was a scam now it's over you're welcome."

After being unable to post on Instagram, and previously not tweeting for nearly two years, on October 8, West tweeted that he was "going death con 3" (sic) on Jewish people, prompting media attention.

On an October 17 episode of the podcast Drink Champs, recorded the day prior, West claimed that he was being targeted by "the Jewish media" and "Zionist Jews" and said, "You really influenced me to get on this anti-Semite vibe and, you know, I'm here to finish the job. I'm here to not back down. They should've never let you... get money."

few days after these comments, on October 22, the neo-Nazi Goyim Defense League protested in Los Angeles, hanging a banner that read "Kanye is right about the Jews" above a highway overpass while giving Nazi salutes.

West arrived at the dinner with three other guests, including Nick Fuentes, a white nationalist and Holocaust denier.

On December 1, 2022, West praised Adolf Hitler on InfoWars, saying "every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler", "I love Jewish people but I also love Nazis", "There's a lot of things that I love about Hitler; a lot of things", "I like Hitler", and "I am a Nazi".

On December 6, 2022, West continued to praise Hitler in an interview with Gavin McInnes, founder of the Proud Boys. He said Jewish people should "forgive Hitler today".

I don't make assumptions about musicians based on their genre unless it's called like "nazi-wave"

I did have a real problem "I'm an Actual Nazi In Real Life (I'm Not Joking Take This Song Literally) (Death in June Remix)" by MC Nazi & DJ Swastika when that dropped

Lol at "Death in June remix"

jfc This place is toxic as fuck

lol, if calling out Nazis for being Nazis is "toxic as fuck", maybe head back to your safe space like 4chan

omg shut the fuck up

is that what I said? read what i fucking wrote.

You sound smart.

Don't take my word for it. Ask any other ILM metalhead. When you hear about a new black metal band, or a black metal band that is unfamiliar to you, the first thing you do is Google "[band name] nazi". Far too often, you will strike nazi gold. If the band itself is not NS in some way, one of its members will have a NS side project, or they'll be on a label with NS affiliations...it's always fucking something.

Fair enough. I guess in the back of my head I was thinking of guys like Jute Gyte, who often donates his Bandcamp Day earnings to charities like the NAACP legal defense fund. And I suppose probably also was thinking of some older jokey side project bands.

He is unfortunately not referencing Jute Guyte.

thought that post would come from someone else and in the year end albums thread

idk I could have said Wolves In The Throne Room or something else. That's what I thought of.

Can't believe we had to interrogate Kanye's "true intentions" when he just did a show in a KKK hood.