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Since there doesn't seem to be a general single purpose Japanese pop thread..

Currently enjoying Listen To The Music 2 by Noriyuki Makihara ("Macky"!)... the production on the more upbeat numbers are just silky smooth yet highly complex.. the cover of "Traveling" is amazing. The very BOC/Capitol K take on Cyndi Lauper's "Time After Time" is a bit odd, as is the early MoM style take on Nat King Cole's "Smile"

Your turn.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Puffy is easily the best j-pop group I've heard, but it has admittedly been a pretty small sampling on my part.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The first J-Pop record I owned and went giddy over was Tomoe Shinohara's Supermodel from 1996. She made Bjork look like Patti Smith. I still throw that on every now and then whenever I want to go into screeching little twee girl video game noise/dance sugar fits.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link

j-Pop really fucking sucks!

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Puffy are ok though.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

'80s J-pop is where it's at...

Ippu-Do/Masami Tsuchiya
Miharu Koshi
Chakra
Moon Riders
Akiko Yano
P-Model
Taeko Ohnuki/Mishio Ogawa
YMO (of course) / Sakamoto / Takahashi
Melon
Zelda

Patrick South (Patrick South), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link

And to say J-pop sucks, to dismiss Japanese popular music entirely, is pretty stupid. Clearly you haven't heard SHIT.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link

At the Kinokuniya books inside Uwajimaya, they have an entire section of "Top Japanese Hits of [Year]" compilations from 1970 to 2005. It's tempting, but to buy all those would be the same price as a downpayment on a mid-sized house.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Any Bonnie Pink recommendations?

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's make this "The J-Pop YSI thread".

Here's Tommy February - Hey Bad Boy
http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20QG4O8JQGQO821ID8ECY69XRC

snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread is mostly about shibuya-kei, but anyway:

Great Japanese Pop

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Patrick Smith: J-Pop is not "the entirety of Japanese popular music." Get one clue.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean J-Pop as a term was not even invented until the mid-nineties. Perhaps overseas people use it to mean something else.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, in Japan, "J-pop" means everything other than "J-indie" and "J-Punk" or other underground genre.

Regardless, saying "J-pop really fucking sucks" is really dismissive.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

And I'm assuming you were addressing me with "Patrick Smith." :]

Patrick South (Patrick South), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

My understanding is that J-Pop refers to a specific style of major label, fast tempo, synth-driven, television supported pop music from about 1993 to the present typified by girl groups like Morning Musume (created by a TV show), Komuro Tetsuya's projects, Hamazaki Ayumi, SMAP, Hikaru Utada, etc etc. This stuff is inescapable in Japan. I spent years watching Japanese TV and I heard about five good songs and three of them were written by Okuda Tamio. Sorry to be so rockist about this but this country's mainstream pop music is really annoying and awful and I thought I'd just pipe up with that stunning observation.

I will bow out of the thread now as it's obviously not for me. Toodle pip.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

So, J-Pop is essentially the half of Japanese mainstream music that has a pulse? (Based on the Hit Parade show -- the one karaoke pop show where they all venerate THE FISH at the beginning -- I've seen syndicated on UHF here years ago, there's the more upbeat modern side of Japanese mainstream, and there's the more boring adult contemporary side.)

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Puffy OK, but I especially like the really hyper j-pop I've heard, like that one posted on Fluxblog a while back by Salt 5. Any YSIs or pointers toward overviews would be more than welcome.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

tomoe shinohara has a new single out which is o-k. for more stuff like that, search: hi-posi, chappie, hazel nuts chocolate, plus tech squeeze box, aprils, W (only the last being proper 'j-pop' in good dog's definition).

i 2nd snowballing's tommy february6 recommendation. see also; tommy heavenly6 & brilliant green.

not sure if shiina ringo belongs on this thread but everybody should search.

xcixxorx, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

That Tommy February track is fantastic, thanks. I wish it was a little more amped-up but that's OK.

I didn't know Plus-Tech Squeeze Box qualified. Awesome.

It'll probably be hard to search for W, but I'll try the rest.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Having lived in Japan a few years ago, I can honestly say that the pop music over there is, in general, embarrasing to a westerner's ears. The main flaw is the overzealous use of tacky 80's style synths and guitars (Hamasaki Ayumi is a glaring example). Although I never really found it, I'm confident that there IS good music in Japan, it's just really hard to find. Noteworthy artists would be Pizzicato Five (natch), The Pillows, Suga Shikao (but he's a bit iffy at times), and X Japan's first album "Jealousy", which is sort of like Metallica's "Master of Puppets" but even more over the top.

Jimmy James Inc, Thursday, 10 November 2005 06:42 (thirteen years ago) link

The main flaw is the overzealous use of tacky 80's style synths and guitars

Haha, which country HASN'T been doing stuff like this recently?

I guess what I like about this stuff is its resilience. It's this "Nothing is going to stop this motherfucking bubblegum brigade.. we're going to use every odd modern production technique out there to create this kaleidoscopic maximalist sugar rush of a song" attitude that I appreciate. It's a love or hate thing, I guess. But I'm noticing that I'm starting to like the more conservative stuff as well. ah, age.

iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Thursday, 10 November 2005 07:53 (thirteen years ago) link

"I'm confident that there IS good music in Japan, it's just really hard to find."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! One of the best things about living in Japan is the huge variety of record shops catering to any genre you can imagine, plus a few you've probably never heard of. Furthermore, if you live in nearly any of the major cities, you've got plenty of options with regards to club nights, live shows, not to mention the festivals which go on all summer. Judging the state of Japanese music based on Ayumi Hamasaki and her ilk is just plain ignorant.

I've said it before on a bunch of other threads but anyone interested in Japanese music needs to check out SUPERCAR. 'nuff said.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 10 November 2005 08:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I quite like the new Orange Range record. Fake Rock is such a great genre.

Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 10 November 2005 08:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't Orange Range do the terrible "Locomotion" cover thing?

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 10 November 2005 09:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Quite possibly. I'd hardly hold 'em up as paragons of taste but the record is quite fun in an Andrew WK-lite kinda way.

Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 10 November 2005 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking as someone who likes j-pop, o noes o shokku!!! etc, I'd recommend Ai Otsuka, esp her first album Love PUNCH!, which is cute girly guitar pop, and Namie Amuro's latest album is from what I've heard excellent. There's a boyband called w-inds. (spelt like that!) whose best-of came out last year or so and is ace - some very classic late-nineties/early-2000s-ish songs on there, although for a couple of their albums you needed to be immune to lame boyband-rap to survive. Porno Graffiti can be pretty ace too, not sure if they're strictly jpop though.

Did anyone get the last english-language Utada album?

spontine (cis), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

if you mean Exodus, yeah - strange but good, it was like normal dance-pop but just skewed enough to be really interesting.

i was thinking the other day that I needed to start a thread about j-pop in 2005 b/c i've really been out of the loop - anybody know of any great '05 releases in the genre?

Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"Nichiyo-bi" by Jitterin' Jinn (?) is utterly fantastic tweenie sugar rush pop that pretty much defines the word "bouncy".

"Long Way Home" by Speed is a lachrymose ballad in the "Careless Whisper" vein that kind of seeps under your skin after a few hearings. Dunno if they're anything to do with Speed, Glue and Shinki (I suspect not) but you can always hope.

Those are the only 2 j-pop songs I can remember actually. Are there any compilations / overviews marketed to the Western market? Or would that be a complete waste of any record companies time and money?

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Lately:

The Hillary Duff sounding song "Endless Love" from We Love Katamari soundtrack. So good!

This morning on the train I jammed out The Fantastic Plastic Machine's "too" which is total disco mindfuck.

Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

today I made a "music cover fantasy" folder and one of those songs is j-pop: ayumi hamasaki "Real me" RAM RIDER REMIX, it's a sweet and powerful "get out of my way" kind of pop song.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yuko Ogura's 'Frui Chu Tarte' from last year is one of the best all-out, hyper, super-synthy J-pop albums of recent years. I don't know who these musicians are...but they know how to make a pop song. It's her first album! She sounds like a kid!

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Spontine :"I'd recommend Ai Otsuka, esp her first album Love PUNCH"

spontine i had just bought LOve Jam, which is good, is Love punch better ?
Also i bought Chara "a scenery like me but had yet to listen"

not strictly jpop but i highy recommend Takako Minekawa "Roomic cube" and "Chat chat".

any other suggestion, expecially greatest hits, since i can permit to go bankrut and i buy tons od diverse genre of music. Yeh a J-Pop compilation for the wester market would be a goodidea, but probably noone is interested....

francesco brunetti, Friday, 11 November 2005 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry, that should have been "i can't permit to go bankrupt"!!!! and "a scenery like me" but....

francesco brunetti, Friday, 11 November 2005 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeh a J-Pop compilation for the wester market would be a goodidea, but probably noone is interested....

Kinokuniya Books sells "The Best in J-Pop! Volume X" type comps for better (yet slightly inflated but nowhere near Japanese import) prices.. so SOME labels (in the U.S. at least) have seen a market for this.

They also sell domestic releases of Japanese bands like Polysics and, occasionally, Boredoms related stuff... Still, I wish the buyers at Kinokuniya would be more on the off-the-radar tip -- but the AOR Japanese pop, J-Pop, and Japanese underground customer bases tend to be mutually exclusive, I guess.

(plurplurplur) ^_- DJ 'O' Nut -_^ (rulprulprulp) (donut), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

five years pass...

BABYMETAL! I have nothing else to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QbAXXXOJF8

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:35 (seven years ago) link

That's...quite something.

I guess there's always been a crossover between j-pop and metal with people like Aikawa Nanase and the vis kei bands but i've never heard anything like that.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:39 (seven years ago) link

Do not ignore their homepage:

http://www.babymetal.jp/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:55 (seven years ago) link

Amazing.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 28 October 2011 19:02 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKJdLkpqj6k

bob loblaw people (dayo), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:24 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Have to post this here as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAOqbu_XEvk

(This being Momoiro Clover Z - the music video is great as well, but the official upload's sound is muffled http://youtu.be/TIokp4MonxE )

Big, amazing song. Marty Friedman featuring seems like a normal sort of thing for these girls. There's also this article from Japan Times:

The not-so-odd coupling between noise acts and J-pop http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fm20120223im.html

However, a lot of it is thoroughly sincere, and in Japan, the burning heart of this love affair is Momoiro Clover Z, a pop group who provoke squealing, teenage admiration from punks, indie kids, noise musicians and heavy-psychedelic longhairs throughout the Japanese underground music scene.

One such progressive rocker is Taigen Kawabe of U.K.-based psychedelic band Bo Ningen. More often seen in Tokyo playing alongside noise legends such as Keiji Haino, Kawabe's page on the website SoundCloud leads off with a curious mashup of his own band and Momioro Clover Z in which the former band's shifts in rhythm match surprisingly well with the idol group's distinctive penchant for chopping aggressively (and sometimes illogically) between seemingly unconnected melodies.

Interestingly, Momioro Clover's recent single, "Roudou Sanka," written by Ian Parton of British band The Go! Team, met with criticism from some fans for being too commercial, and the Hyadain-produced (and Friedman-enhanced) followup, the elaborately titled "Mouretsu Uchuu Koukyoukyoku Dainana Gakushou", is defiantly back in the group's previous furious conceptual mashup territory

Roudou Sanka is actually great http://youtu.be/Krj3dwKEaSk

abcfsk, Friday, 2 March 2012 18:40 (seven years ago) link

the music isn't killing me as much as the video concepts, but the Megadeth guitar + Volga Boatmen Russian choral coda is definitely some kind of... thing? they're 9000 times less disturbing than AKB48 in any case, if I could take back watching that one video of theirs a friend forwarded I would

that Japan Times article is great though; Merzbow had been influencing western pop artists from the beginning of his career, but when Shiina Ringo began integrating full on Otomo Yoshihide levels of noise-solos in her pop songs it really did come across as national heritage rather than some kind of collage. almost confused Japan Times didn't reference Shiina even though she basically moved away from noise in 2004

Milton Parker, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:15 (seven years ago) link

Here's the song performed live with a full choir and marty on the guitar!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB3Oo1vihSo

abcfsk, Saturday, 3 March 2012 10:57 (seven years ago) link

I fell asleep listening to Perfume's JPN last night and had weird acidy candy store french electro dreams.

owenf, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:37 (seven years ago) link

Whoa, I completely missed out on Momoiro Clover Z's nutsoid Christmas song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmfli1WCcFA

Doch! (seandalai), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:30 (seven years ago) link

^ the best bit is when it goes SANTA

owenf, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 01:32 (seven years ago) link

Dude who writes most of their stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyUXKynmmiw

abcfsk, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 06:33 (seven years ago) link

bet he's tired

owenf, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:48 (seven years ago) link

Sufficiently so to forget his many chords in the new Momoiro tune- http://youtu.be/fATvdleWPtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVn3_qeIrBA

abcfsk, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:49 (seven years ago) link

TAKE FIVE! puts me in this really nostalgic mood

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 23:04 (seven years ago) link

Maison Book Girl UK tour dates next month!

5/16 : Hare & Hounds at Birmingham
5/17 : East Street Tap at Brighton (Alternative Escape)
5/18 : The Arch at Brighton (The Great Escape)
5/19 : Boston Music Room at London
5/20:Banquet Records Instore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-85OdVKkIao

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 26 April 2018 14:09 (one year ago) link

never heard them before but I like the sound - proggy chamber pop idols is a new one

ufo, Thursday, 26 April 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

Ha, zappi, I was just gonna post those dates! I'm completely skint but very much eyeing up the Birmingham show.

emil.y, Thursday, 26 April 2018 14:30 (one year ago) link

Yeh I’m too sick to go myself, so I encourage others to go in my place!
At least the 7” is now up for order, even I can manage that lol https://readtheairrecords.bigcartel.com/

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 26 April 2018 14:49 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

kyary interview and song http://www.papermag.com/kyary-pamyu-pamyu-2573616884.html

maura, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 19:51 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCaC2a5_jWo

Five years old now but love this and the Perfume samples

I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 20:00 (one year ago) link

Massive jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjuQHYuOjfo

abcfsk, Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:51 (one year ago) link

really into this wonky Jackson 5 rip, unexpected Sarah Records reference at the end of the MV too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Qpx4nQiBc

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 31 May 2018 14:00 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

new KOTO record is unbelievable, just too good for this world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7xKs92IMsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6PO6Eep9NA

also liking this retro tentenko ballad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8mkCgkAB6w

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:13 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Wow @ "BBQ"!

Another acronym song, "U.S.A." by Da Pump, was subtly dissed by The Japan Times

- https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2018/07/18/music/da-pump-scores-unexpected-summer-hit-u-s

sbahnhof, Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:12 (nine months ago) link

Loving that KOTO record. Someone nominate it for the EOY poll.

Jeff W, Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:36 (nine months ago) link

i am really enjoying Koutei Camera Girl Drei's mini-album New Way of Lovin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoVysQLSvrA

driving techno-idol pop epic "Toronto Lot" is the highlight, probably going to make my EOY ballot

ufo, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:05 (nine months ago) link

yeh Toronto Lot is one of my top tracks from 2018, although I tend to skip the first minute intro
Girlz Can't is also killer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gaof0Urpmp8

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 4 January 2019 14:30 (nine months ago) link

Just when you thought the AKB universe couldn't get any more toxic:

Biggest controversy on Japanese internet (and now, finally, in Japanese media) involves the targeted assault of Yamaguchi Maho, a member of the Niigata-based idol group NGT48, a sister group of AKB48 (which I think Westerners are more familiar with). #山口真帆

— Kat Bee (@katbeee) January 10, 2019

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Friday, 18 January 2019 14:15 (nine months ago) link

I'd never thght I wld post this: my 13 yo is obsessed with k-pop. It's like my dEUS obsession multiplied by pi.

nathom, Friday, 18 January 2019 20:23 (nine months ago) link

xp Yes, but the reactions since that tweet 8 days ago have also been stronger and different from before, signalling a shift of some kind. The story didn't go away, the company was forced to respond, the manager was removed, Japanese media have had to tackle it

abcfsk, Friday, 18 January 2019 21:25 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

new kyary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9hGYrc0GYI

Jeff W, Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:04 (eight months ago) link

really like the way this new Chai song gets messy in the middle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoCOh2r6ML0

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 8 February 2019 02:20 (eight months ago) link

The more Momoiro Clover Z live clips I watch the less I understand what's going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsSC_ZCjnZI

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 February 2019 23:55 (eight months ago) link

i didn't entirely get it, but i feel like i sort of half got it. is the song about feeling unloved and abandoned in a "black day" sense but instead of just moping about it and spiraling, also praying to the shinto god raijin to gain strength from their experience?

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Sunday, 17 February 2019 00:12 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZfMQ-ydw28

Rinne Yoshida - "Mu"

fun dance pop produced by Wednesday Campanella's Kenmochi Hidefumi

ufo, Sunday, 3 March 2019 07:31 (seven months ago) link

two months pass...

Oh yeah the ne w Denpa track is a frenetic banger of the old skool style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgUm0xYI6fU&

abcfsk, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 08:35 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Sakanaction, delightful as always:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxqYUbNR-c0

Roz, Friday, 21 June 2019 12:17 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

^^ love that

just sayin, Friday, 2 August 2019 06:17 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Dempagumi reaching next level of brilliance here:
https://open.spotify.com/track/4JOIgA1XHd6BPtv3kkEDzl?si=BoBge8FFTt-MJpU_y5M5HA

Jeff W, Sunday, 8 September 2019 16:46 (one month ago) link

tune

nxd, Friday, 13 September 2019 11:02 (one month ago) link

that rules

ufo, Friday, 13 September 2019 11:42 (one month ago) link

Can anyone give me any insight into this 3776 album Saijiki? It’s getting buzz on Rym. I can only find it on YouTube. I’m new to j-pop and Idol groups in general but what I understand is they were once a larger group now it’s one girl and a producer. The cover and name are all representing mt. Fuji in shape and size. Lots going on musically, sounds like Stereolab with tons of odd time elements at play. Any insight beyond that? I kind of love it but am pretty unsure of exactly what I’m getting into here. Couldn’t find much discussion.

https://youtu.be/Bv-V9tD8gdc

gman59, Saturday, 14 September 2019 11:00 (one month ago) link

Can anyone give me any insight into this 3776 album Saijiki? It’s getting buzz on Rym. I can only find it on YouTube. I’m new to j-pop and Idol groups in general but what I understand is they were once a larger group now it’s one girl and a producer. The cover and name are all representing mt. Fuji in shape and size. Lots going on musically, sounds like Stereolab with tons of odd time elements at play. Any insight beyond that? I kind of love it but am pretty unsure of exactly what I’m getting into here. Couldn’t find much discussion.

https://youtu.be/Bv-V9tD8gdc

gman59, Saturday, 14 September 2019 11:00 (one month ago) link

i haven't heard much of the album yet (have been aware of the rym buzz which is usually worth checking out when it's something like this) but there's a long history of vaguely experimental and underground groups that still cling to the "idol pop" form and this seems to be in that tradition, if weirder than usual. i did do a bit of searching and find that there's a few places that claim that Akira Ishida, the songwriter and producer, is the famous voice actor of the same name but i don't think that's actually the case.

ufo, Saturday, 14 September 2019 11:28 (one month ago) link

yeh I've been following 3776 for a few years now. they started as a "local idol" group to promote Fujinomiya, a city at the base of Mt Fuji, but the group has since become more of an arty postpunk group with the duo of Chiyono & Akira.
they use a lot of Fuji imagery in the lyrics and the number 3776 in their songs e.g. in the below song during the breakdown about 90 seconds in Chiyono counts out measures of 3,7,7 and 6 before 1234ing back into the song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UcGmhVnpI

their discography has all sorts of neat twists & turns e.g. there's a pretty bossanova e.p. so just dig around, there's lots of great stuff to discover. No idea what's going on with the new album though lol, sounds like she's constantly saying animal names?
Oh and Chiyono also made a really solo album (produced by Akira of course)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9x8cIwypFs

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 14 September 2019 11:29 (one month ago) link

ok reading up on the new album's concept and wtf!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saijiki
so it's a chronicle of a year, every 12 seconds is a day (counted out by one zodiac sign per second, hence the animals)
each of the 12 songs roughly the length of that month, i.e. in seconds x 12

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 14 September 2019 11:57 (one month ago) link

er, in days x 12 seconds

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 14 September 2019 12:01 (one month ago) link

Wow. That’s awesome. Thank you all so much. Yeah played through it once and was very next level. But I’m so unfamiliar with idol stuff that wasn’t sure if this was the norm. He seems to be operating on a different wavelength.

gman59, Saturday, 14 September 2019 12:06 (one month ago) link

didn't realize there was a new 3776 album, not following rym does mean i miss out on some shit... i can always catch up later, i tell myself

sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Saturday, 14 September 2019 14:31 (one month ago) link

It’s definitely cool. A lot going on. I’m just out of my element on the traditions of the genre but I love the bizarre time rules he’s put on himself and the stereolab experimental art stuff happening. Just not sure how out of bounds this is as far as J-Pop Idol stuff goes. Also looks like he’s heavily inspired by akb48 which I’ve seen in here some of you have said is problematic. Didn’t want to accidentally endorse something shitty

gman59, Saturday, 14 September 2019 15:36 (one month ago) link

don't worry they are pretty way out there as far as the idolsphere is concerned!
also re stereolabesque arty idol stuff you should check out Maison Book Girl, more streamlined but still have the odd time sigs etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBSavADxE3U

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 14 September 2019 15:51 (one month ago) link

i was going to recommend gesu no kiwami otome along these same lines and i sort of started following enon kawatani and found out that he contributed a song to a chatmonchy tribute last year (also included: guitar wolf!) - i am going to have to check that one out!

sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Saturday, 14 September 2019 16:14 (one month ago) link

Amazing. Thank you all

gman59, Saturday, 14 September 2019 16:32 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIOiwV1qj-k

this is v v good

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Saturday, 14 September 2019 17:35 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTnyA38NfE

on the topic of dempagumi.inc from earlier this is another great recent single from them. incredible video too

ufo, Saturday, 14 September 2019 21:40 (one month ago) link

and re: sakanaction their new album's quite good, there was a bit of discussion of it a while ago in the j-indie thread

good japanese indie stuff?

ufo, Saturday, 14 September 2019 21:44 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lNFzrkp1ME

the clapping at the beginning of this is straight up steve reich's "clapping music"

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 02:10 (one month ago) link

ok it's v v v close https://youtu.be/lzkOFJMI5i8?t=20

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 02:12 (one month ago) link

(many xps)

+1 for the Dempagumi.Inc track Jeff W posted the other week.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 17:55 (one month ago) link

yeh I've been following 3776 for a few years now. they started as a "local idol" group to promote Fujinomiya, a city at the base of Mt Fuji, but the group has since become more of an arty postpunk group with the duo of Chiyono & Akira.
they use a lot of Fuji imagery in the lyrics and the number 3776 in their songs e.g. in the below song during the breakdown about 90 seconds in Chiyono counts out measures of 3,7,7 and 6 before 1234ing back into the song

track 12 does that too, right from the beginning. have not heard the new one but I remember thinking the first one reminded me a bit of modern Cornelius, not his new album but rather the NHK/salyu x salyu stuff. it's a bit more energetic than that though.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 September 2019 13:53 (one month ago) link

Gonna be in Tokyo for a couple weeks next weekend. Any clubs around town good guarantees of seeing a pop act?

57mg/20floz, Saturday, 21 September 2019 05:05 (one month ago) link

there will be tons of events every day, so probably best to check listings like these:
https://www.tochoh.com/
https://idolscheduler.jp/
https://genvers.jp/event/index/all

and if there are specific acts you're interested in, twitter and so on

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 27 September 2019 18:59 (three weeks ago) link

and it's cool that 3776 is getting some hype outside the idol bubble. new album rules. but I went to an in-store recently and the crowd was still v much the idol otaku you might expect haha.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:03 (three weeks ago) link

Ano has left You'll Melt More with immediate effect. She was their most popular member by miles, can't see them lasting much longer without her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-tXl0gajdc

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 30 September 2019 10:27 (three weeks ago) link


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