Kim Gordon thinks Cobain was murdered

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Did I miss it or was there surprisingly little reaction to the interview Sonic Youth's Kim Gordon gave to Uncut magazine around the time of the Last Days release, where she stated explicity that she believed Kurt Cobain had been murdered? I can't recall anyone so close to the whole situation and seeminly reputable go on the record with this belief before.

rajisrikatiah, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

link?

rob w., Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Did she think it was El Duce?

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i dunno... was she that close? she was in new york being kim gordon while all this was going on.

america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and i dunno whether this thread is a troll worth feeding.

america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

And it's a troll because... ?

Ya Freak, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i'm sure kim gordon thinks a lot of things

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

...because i can't imagine why somebody with a username and e-mail address i've never seen on here before would be just DYING to know what we all think of some ancient kim gordon quote about a dead grunge dude.

america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, I see. Unrecognized name automatically = troll.

Ya Freak, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

pretty much

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Here's a link from the Aug. 05 issue of Uncut in a sidebar to a story about Gus Van Zant's Last Days:

UNCUT: The film doesn't explain why Kurt killed himself. Can you?

GORDON: I don't even know that he killed himself. There are people close to him who don't think that he did...

UNCUT: Do you believe the theory that Kurt was killed by someone else?

GORDON: I do, yes.


I'd say its a pretty significant development at least from a p.r. perspective. I mean SY and Nirvana shared management, a label and a lot of contacts, so she's in the circle of people in the know. Obviously, a lot of those folks have soured on Courtney in recent years so maybe that's why she's singing a new tune on this -- or maybe she always thought it but didn't feel the need to unburden herself.

rajisrikantiah, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i wonder if that means she thinks courtney did it? since i've never heard a "kurt was murdered" theory that didn't involve her, yknow.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

pretty much

You need to look up definition of troll again. All of you. This is too common an accusation.

Ya Freak, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ya Troll

van igloo (van smack), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I know time moves fast here, but is August of this year considered ancient?

rajisrikantiah, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what does kim gordon think about trolls?

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oh is that what last days was? huh.

america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'elephant' with guitars

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ya Troll

Yowch, so painful. Can't get over the hurt.

Ya Freak, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i love kim gordon but conspiracy theories are all batshit conjecture

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's a good thing detectives don't feel that way

I AM OTM, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

detectives eh?

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"detectives" = the one guy who was in that documentary?

america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

canadian, eh?

I AM OTM, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

conspiracy theories didn't get us anywhere with fucking JFK so they're certainly not going to do us much good with dead rock stars!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

blount that fucker got you good, eh

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Haven't you ever seen the occasional 60 Minutes, 20/20 or Court TV crime show featuring the detective who went after a guy for 20 years against all odds and finally proved some dude was guilty? It's a good thing they didn't think conspiracy theories were batshit crazy.

I AM OTM, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

whatta hoser

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and he probably died two days before retirement

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

let me explain this:

A conspiracy theory seeks to explain a disputed case or matter as a
plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

they should have gotten columbo to investigate this cobain thing

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

let me explain this:

A conspiracy theory seeks to explain a disputed case or matter as a
plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual

Is that what Kim Gordon did?

I AM OTM, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

y'all think this is big, wait until you hear kim's take on the 2pac-biggie killings!!

pretentiosexual rights activist (haitch), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i hear drew rosenhaus is representing kim gordon now

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wasn't there actually some pathetic Colombo-looking guy in the Kurt & Courtney movie who was convinced Courtney had Kurt killed? Give him 20 years.

I AM OTM, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

YA KID K IS WAY BETTER THAN KURT COBAIN

YA KID K, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i'd file what KG did under "conspiracy theory", because it's completely uninformed.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

But she's "in the know". Are you "in the know" Gear?

ARE YOU OTM?, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i was watching through the window. what a mess.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

you lie. there is no talking to you.

YOU ARE NOT OTM, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

...

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

UNCUT: No one knows why Kurt killed himself.

GORDON: I don't even know that he killed himself.

UNCUT: Is it possible that Kurt was murdered?

GORDON: It is possible.

discus (dr g), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

...∞

OTM OTM, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

note to new anons: you can leave off the ".com" in your fake email addys. it will save you some time and allow you to participate in "speed-baiting" (or "-bating")

amon (eman), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

note to amon: I type fast as shit.

dot com dot com dot com, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

way to bait

discus (dr g), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

head just came apart. blood everywhere. gross. i would have stopped him, but i was more of a pearl jam fan at the time.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i busted in through the window and rifled through his records. took a few, actually. had to scrape a piece of brain off this pixies LP he had.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

poor bastard.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Mark Cuban

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 19 March 2016 12:27 (three years ago) Permalink

Wait until you guys hear the conspiracy theory about George Martin not being a musician. It's a hoot!

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:54 (three years ago) Permalink

lol sod off dude i misspoke

flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:02 (three years ago) Permalink

obviously i know george martin was a musician, i meant he wasn't a public performer, and that might be why the reaction was muted. and he lived a full long life. flappy out

flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:03 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Murder or self-inflicted, it was 25 years ago today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNftTyKA3EU

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 5 April 2019 04:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

and Albert R. Broccoli was born 110 years ago today

mookieproof, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was genuinely bummed. Found out from a friend leaving me a phone message, on the landline.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was driving from KC back home to Lawrence, and the news came over NPR. As I recall it was kinda late afternoon?

rip van wanko, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Someone came into the darkroom at my high school to break the news, I remember him being gleeful about having important news to share.

lukas, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I heard it from Kurt Loder. It was a blow, and it blew.

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 April 2019 17:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My family pulled into the den to see it on the NBC News that night, I was shocked frankly, even though I wasn't a huge Nirvana fan it felt like the first time someone on the "big stage" that was one of my people, not a left over 60s or 70s artist, but someone I related to & recognized died and (despite all the warning signs) I was gobsmacked

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 5 April 2019 17:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that's such a weird tic some people have when they're excited to share some fucked-up news. i remember a kid coming to band class in HS with a big smile because he was the first one to hear that paul wellstone died. guess it made him feel important to be the bearer of news

global tetrahedron, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

first news story I heard break on the internet, on the alt.punk usenet group.

bendy, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I overheard a couple of guys talking about it at (I think) a Phantom Surfers show in London. I raised my eyebrows and said nothing.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was in a shitty nightclub and they played Smells Like Teen Spirit which I thought was weird because they didn't normally play music like that, it was usually Eurodance and the same "party" songs over and over (imagine Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons stamping on a human ear forever), and my friend said oh didn't you hear

Colonel Poo, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that's such a weird tic some people have when they're excited to share some fucked-up news. i remember a kid coming to band class in HS with a big smile because he was the first one to hear that paul wellstone died. guess it made him feel important to be the bearer of news

― global tetrahedron, Friday, April 5, 2019 1:11 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seriously, it's like in fifth grade when kids were breathlessly relating the news when each of the Beastie Boys died of drug overdoses in such quick succession. It was really fucked up, not the least reason being that it taught me the hard way that fifth graders are totally full of shit.

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

if 1986 was like 2019

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it was raining; i came home from work (at a north carolina public school system) and one of my housemates was sitting at the kitchen table watching mtv. he said kurt cobain killed himself and we both were like, well, not too surprising

mookieproof, Friday, 5 April 2019 23:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Seriously, it's like in fifth grade when kids were breathlessly relating the news when each of the Beastie Boys died of drug overdoses in such quick succession.

they were similarly callous about what ought to have been a private matter for rod stewart

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was 17 and in college and yet have no specific recollection of hearing the news.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(Ask me about River Phoenix, though — hoo boy...)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was 14, I'd never heard his name before, the only mention of Nirvana I'd heard was hearing my older brother listening to Weird Al's "Smells Like Nirvana". It was whispered about but that was it. Somebody drew graffiti in the boy's bathroom that said "we miss you Kurt" and a cross. It was a year later before I actually heard the band ("Smells Like Teen Spirit" blaring out of the high school weight room on repeat). It was the first celebrity death I can remember registering as having happened, but I had no emotional response. Shannon Hoon a year later, then John Candy a year after that was a mild bummer. It was only when Lady Di died that I actually felt sad about a celebrity dying, and it took until John Fahey died for me to ever cry about it.

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I saw a kid with a nirvana smiley face tshirt in 1993 or so at mass and thought it looked cool but when kurt died and I was 9 i didn't hear about it.

I was 12 and in an older kid's room a couple years later and he had a kurt cobain poster and I asked "who is kurt cobain" and he gave me a shocked look then taped nevermind and incesticide for me and I listened to the tape til it wore out

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My ex and I went to look at the house where he died a few years ago. We then went and sat by the lake nearby.i was shocked to see nude bathing in a well to do neighborhood in the states

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I never listen to nirvana anymore but will occasionally strum about a girl if I'm bored around a guitar

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i was shocked to see nude bathing in a well to do neighborhood in the states

public nudity is 100% legal in Seattle, but is generally kept to smaller examples of the many lakeside beaches in that neighbourhood ime

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(I was surprised the first time I saw someone laying out, balls to the air, in 14°C too)

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

In summer '89 I was visiting Boulder and passed up a chance to go see Nirvana open for The Fluid in Denver, must have been the Bleach tour. I was a Mudhoney fan but I don't think I had heard Nirvana and I skipped the show.

I have a super clear & distinct memory of walking into the radio station that I was at back in late September 1991 and having the DJ before me say "the high school kids have been freaking out about this Nirvana song all day" - this was at a left-of-dial station run by the local school district. The single had come out on the 10th and anticipation was high, as per Wikipedia:

Geffen shipped about half of the initial U.S. pressing to the American Northwest, where it sold out quickly and was unavailable for days

I didn't initially click with the band, it wasn't until after he died (summer 1995) when I borrowed a friend's car, Bleach was in the tape deck, and it was perfect for that moment of my life. I never came around to In Utero but the rest is still perfect to my ears.

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've shared this here before but I remember a day in the 10th grade where 2 or 3 people at school asked me if I was going to the Nirvana show that night. I had never heard of them. Everyone at my school was into RHCP and Jane's Addiction which weren't really my bag, plus I thought Nirvana was a REALLY dumb band name, so I didn't give it a second thought

Turns out I missed a legendary show. The next day everyone was buzzing and playing Nirvana in the halls and parking lot and I loved the music lol

rip van wanko, Saturday, 6 April 2019 01:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

He died on April 5th but was not discovered until the 8th. It was a Friday and I was in 9th grade in Seattle. Nirvana was everything to me. I went to the vigil at Seattle Center and was quoted in a Rolling Stone piece about the event. I still play Nirvana regularly.

Yelploaf, Saturday, 6 April 2019 02:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

He died on April 5th but was not discovered until the 8th.

Was not aware of this somewhat gruesome detail.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 6 April 2019 02:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was in college at my first coffee house and it absolutely devastated me and everyone there.

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 April 2019 02:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

No graceful way to put this… I was in the middle of a tech support phone call, helping some dude in San Jose rewrite a new EOF header on a scrambled DAT tape when he suddenly interjected “holy shit Kurt Cobain just killed himself”
“Wait what?

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 6 April 2019 04:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

We were in a nightclub (of sorts) in a small British town and some joker told us, but this was around 10pm and we didn't know for sure until we heard the radio news headlines (it was only the 2nd or 3rd headline, astonishingly) at around 3 am in a take-away. The very notion that even as recently as 1994 someone could tell you something in a room full of people, and you'd have *no way of knowing at all* if it were true for 5 hours, blows my mind.

piscesx, Saturday, 6 April 2019 18:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It was later in the day in England, I turned on John Peel and he immediately broke the news at the beginning of his show. He sounded really shaken up. I remember him wording it something like "Kurt Cobain has died, apparently by his own hand," or something like that. I can't recall what he played at all. I had tickets to see them at an upcoming Brixton Academy gig. Still have the tickets somewhere.

Position Position, Saturday, 6 April 2019 19:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My big memory is being bemused at the shock and surprise being performed in discourse amongst classmates, radio (oh, so much presumptive "we're all feeling [x]" all day forever on the radio) and press: like, he got out of hospital after a suicide attempt just weeks ago.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 6 April 2019 19:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

like, he got out of hospital after a suicide attempt just weeks ago.

I think this is part of why it didn’t make a memorable impression on me; it struck me as an “echo” or continuation of earlier news (not that it makes it any less sad, or that it was or should have been “inevitable,” etc. — it just wasn’t shocking)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 6 April 2019 20:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If only there had been some way of knowing where his head was at, some sign of his intentions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kadq1kTIkpc

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Saturday, 6 April 2019 20:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

there is this story of the ex-bassist of guns'n roses duff mckagan who was one of the last persons to see cobain. they flew from la to seattle sitting together in the 1st class. mckagan met a friend at the airport in seattle who said to him that they should not leave cobain in the state he was in alone. when they looked behind cobain was gone.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 6 April 2019 20:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was at a gig in Glasgow and Norman Blake and maybe some other Teenage Fanclub guys were there and the people I was with said, "Wow, they (the Fannies) are all really upset because they're just heard Kurt Cobain killed himself". Then I think someone made up a tasteless joke about Kurt Cobain - it might even have been me - and we all laughed.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Saturday, 6 April 2019 21:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That doesn’t sound like you. Oh wait.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 April 2019 22:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Duff story is related, by Duff, in this which is grim but well made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is0OGzUmk-Y

piscesx, Saturday, 6 April 2019 22:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Didn’t find out until Saturday morning when listening to the Danny Baker show on Radio One. Predictably Baker was less than respectful when talking about him.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 7 April 2019 19:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It was a Friday*, sometime between 3 pm and 4 pm - school was over for the day and the dinner rush hadn’t begun yet. Between the kitchen and the restaurant area of the country club where I worked as a busboy was a preparation area or station, a place to prepare little bowls of butter, fold napkins, sort silverware, unload racks of drinking glasses. I was in there, doing one of those things probably. The layout of that room and the various adjoining entrances are very clear even now: the stainless steel industrial counters and refrigerator, the ice machine, the coffee makers, the cinderblock walls painted a shade of yellow so pale it was nearly white. If you turned to the right of where I stood you’d cross a hallway and enter the kitchen. If you turned to the left of where I stood you’d have four choices, two of them leading to well stocked bars, one leading to the main dining room, another leading to the room used to stage the weddings and special events featuring unimaginative DJs. Whatever I was doing had to be done and as I was doing it I talked to an older waiter, mid-20s, who is probably a middle aged banker now - he looked like a middle aged banker then. I was 17, about to wrap up junior year. It wasn’t the ideal job, but what job is? Getting that one had to do with connections but, certainly, I took the work seriously. The waiter projected an air of empathy but that was probably a mask; he was nice enough. He wandered around singing the chorus of Pearl Jam’s “Daughter” to himself as though it were the whole song. We worked with worse people. Like that asshole tennis pro, a sneering weasel in a headband and glasses, who chose that moment to join us, bursting through the entrance near the kitchen, laughing, to let us know that Kurt Cobain was dead, that he’d blown his brains out, before fucking off sweatily to teach another tennis lesson, or whatever. (I posted this on FB the other day.)

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 7 April 2019 20:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

^This was in Phoenix, Maryland, at what was known as the "Towson Golf & Country Club" - I think they call it something different now.

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 7 April 2019 20:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Like that asshole tennis pro, a sneering weasel in a headband and glasses, who chose that moment to join us, bursting through the entrance near the kitchen, laughing, to let us know that Kurt Cobain was dead, that he’d blown his brains out, before fucking off sweatily to teach another tennis lesson, or whatever. (I posted this on FB the other day.)

― Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings)

david foster wallace could be such a dick

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Sunday, 7 April 2019 20:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Ha! In my memory he was more of a Steve Albini type.

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 7 April 2019 21:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Did he play poker with the guests as well as tennis?

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 April 2019 21:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My Facebook post on where I heard the news that was, according to some, that generation's "Where were you when you found out John Lennon died" moment:

Today is the 25th anniversary of Kurt Cobain's death but it's not the 25th anniversary of when all of us found out about it. That was three days later on the 8th. Still, I'll tell my story now...

Ric Ricard was pissed at me.

I had procrastinated and not picked up Pearl Jam tickets. We were set to cover the band when they played at the Patriot Center (now called EagleBank Arena) in Fairfax, VA for a concert review for a British magazine - I believe it was Metal Hammer. We often would try and cover shows outside of NYC because getting credentials was easier and my folks lived near there so we had a place to crash after the show.

Because I didn't take the train into the Epic offices from Brooklyn during the day to pick up the tickets, after he got off work Ric had to pick me up, drive into the city to get them, and then drive to the DC suburbs while dealing with rush hour traffic.

"If we don't get there in time for me to take pictures, you're paying for my gas," he said. Which was quite the threat since I was always broke. It also showed how pissed he was.

We finally get to the venue. We missed Mudhoney but had time to pick up his photo pass. However the person at will call says, "Sorry, the band revoked all photo passes."

Ric, who was already on edge from the long drive, traffic and being pissed at me, snapped at the guy, "What do you mean?"

"There was a death in the band," he said.

"Wait, who died," Ric asked. He told us it was Kurt Cobain.

Ric's response was classic: "He's not in Peal Jam!"

We didn't play the radio on the drive down, listening to cassette tapes the whole time, so even if a radio station might have announced it, we didn't hear it. So this was how we found out.

The band played a really intense set (which I found in full on YouTube - linked below) and Eddie Vedder broke into tears at one point. Ric didn't get to take pictures but fortunately Pearl Jam was one of about three rock bands he liked at that point and since his photo pass was revoked it wasn't my fault so I didn't have to pay for the gas.

After the show on the way to my folks' apartment Ric and I were discussing it. We were wondering how he died. Drugs seemed the most likely culprit.

Get to my parents' place and immediately tell dad I have to turn on MTV. I didn't have cable at the time and it was amusing having dad roll his eyes remembering when I lived at home and would change radio and TV stations but he acquiesced and at that point is when we learned that it was suicide.

Ric and I got real quiet - we couldn't believe it - and even dad started to pay attention (dad would recount to me Nirvana lyrics published in the Washington post a few days later, telling me he liked them) and we watched MTV for a few hours before finally getting to sleep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CbK5lDsI0

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:21 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess I was in a supermarket because I saw it on the Daily Star which was the only UK paper to carry the news on its front page

in my attempts to verify this with pictorial evidence just now I found a story on their website titled Kurt Cobain ‘KILLED by Illuminati after making chilling 9/11 warning in THIS photo’ which is literally based on youtube comments. can't believe the Daily Star would etc

Terry Major-Ball Will Tell You (DJ Mencap), Monday, 8 April 2019 21:25 (one week ago) Permalink


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