The Golden Palominos

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I got an LP by them at a free stuff swap yesterday...were they a better choice than Lloyd Cole or The Chameleons (UK)?

Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 30 October 2005 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Way better.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 30 October 2005 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Hell yeah. Though it depends on which one you got. The Pals were nothing if not wildly inconstant. Noisy postpunk to country to female-fronted electronic... I wonder what Anton Fier is up to these days.

js (honestengine), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

It was something Dead Horse...don't have it right here.

Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think Fier is up to much... I seem to remember reading that he sort of came out of semiretirement to do the Locus Solus show with Zorn and Lindsey during Zorn's 50th birthday month of shows. But I may have a bad memory.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I really like that era, but that's when they're kinda alt-country.

js (honestengine), Sunday, 30 October 2005 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Visions of Excess is their apex of super guest-star glory. This Is How It Feels was a huge favorite when it came out--predating the likes of Garbage--but much like the latter, it hasn't aged that well.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 30 October 2005 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Even more interesting because the name was actually pronounced "Golden Pal o' mine oh's" in reference to what great pals they were.

Jaded Baby Crucifix, Monday, 31 October 2005 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Anton Fier used to be my upstairs neighbor on 4th Ave in Park Slope.. he may still live there. I didn't see him too much, but when I did he was always wearing new stiff-looking blue jeans and a briefcase.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 31 October 2005 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Golden Palominos: C/D

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 31 October 2005 01:45 (sixteen years ago) link

The debut and Visions of Excess are in my top 3 "best opening pair of albums". Might be my #1.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Monday, 31 October 2005 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

almost all of the albums are very different from each other (visions of excess and blast of silence, both with a lot of alt-country being the most alike; a dead horse and drunk with passion are similar but more interested in atmospherics and etherality; this is how it feels and pure interested in programmed beats. the first and final albums are totally unlike the rest). all of them have something to recommend them. a dead horse is the one I listen to the least though (in fact I guess I don't even have it anymore).

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 31 October 2005 05:21 (sixteen years ago) link

There's so much great overlooked stuff from them. The two Syd Straw Little Feat covers are fantastic, and even the stuff with Michael Stipe (?) is still great jangle. And Jack Bruce on Pete Blegveld's "Something Else (is working hard)" is fucking amazing. They were OK during the middle, but not as great, and then they went into electronics+girlvocal, and those are OK (but like a lot of that Tricky-esque stuff haven't aged well), then there's the weird-ass Dead Inside. Almost industrial noise with creepy death and sex poems (especially the album opener, which should still give anyone who listens to it in the dark trickling shits of fear), but Fier and Blackman got along about as well as Mark E. Smith and journalists, and I don't think he's done anything since.

js (honestengine), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I got into them around '92 w/ Drunk With Passion, which I liked then but not so much these days. Some wonderful Richard Thompason guitar solos aside, it's as if Fier made off w/ Phil Spector's echo chamber in order to make a jangle-pop record sung by Dead Can Dance.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Fier and Blackman got along about as well as Mark E. Smith and journalists, and I don't think he's done anything since.

He attempted a collaboration with Stina Nordenstam a few years back which ended in similar unrest and public backbiting, so if Blackman wasn't the nail, Stina certainly was. She went so far as to steal back the collaborative tracks, had them stripped and remixed by a few techno artists, and issued it as an EP with Fier's name only barely legible as a film-style credit on the back.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Saturday, 3 December 2005 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmmm, that's a tough call. The best songs of both the Golden Palominos and the Chameleons are incredible.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Saturday, 3 December 2005 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Evidently, Fier is going to be playing soon at Tonic with Arto Lindsay and John's like the anti-matter Rush!!!!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 3 December 2005 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

Fier has died

akm, Thursday, 22 September 2022 00:37 (one week ago) link

Glenn Kenny remembers

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 September 2022 01:31 (one week ago) link

Those first two GP albums rule.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 September 2022 01:47 (one week ago) link

They all rule
To different extents (maybe not Blast of Silence or Dead Horse)

akm, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:22 (one week ago) link

Aw, that's sad. I heard "Visions Of Excess" when I was a teenager digging into the underground and it pointed me in so many wonderful directions.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:32 (one week ago) link

I always appreciated all their later trip hop adjacent albums, the ones with Lori Carson.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:52 (one week ago) link

Sad news. Literally just went back through their records a week ago and discovered this, which I found rather hypnotic:

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 22 September 2022 03:12 (one week ago) link

Rest In Peace.
Blessings forever for The Feelies and those first few GP albums. And for being the most curmudgeonly yet friendly “door guy” ever at Tonic ( also RIP).

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 22 September 2022 07:00 (one week ago) link

It appears Spotify's upload of "Cook Out" from the first GP record is the wrong song, instead it's playing "Darklands" from the 4th lp, can someone else confirm this error on their spotify or another platform, and I'll figure out where to report it? Annoying as that's one of the better songs on the record. I have it on vinyl somewhere but just played it on Youtube to satisfy the need to finish listening to the record.

I understand this is apparently some sort of error on the content provider's part, but there needs to be some sort of redress here for the platform to gray the track out, or fix it themselves.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 17:13 (one week ago) link

Same for me, yeah

MaresNest, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:15 (one week ago) link

I was just listening to them last night, RIP Fier. 1st album is correct on Tidal, but Visions of Excess is screwed up -- "Boy (Go)" and "Only One Party" are switched -- the tracks are listed in the right order, but clicking on each plays the other.

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:26 (one week ago) link

Reported to Spotify support, I assume nothing will happen but I've paid my respects to Anton in this small way.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:48 (one week ago) link

Yeah, one of the two issues of A Dead Horse on Spotify has two songs switched – Angel of Death and Lucky, I think.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:20 (two days ago) link

Or post in the Spotify thread on ILX, an employee lurks there and will probs make the change pretty quick.

The Ghost Club, Monday, 3 October 2022 04:23 (two days ago) link

We used to live in the same apartment building on 4th Ave in Brooklyn. I hardly ever saw him. Every now and again somebody would leave some amazing records outside on the street, for free, for the neighbourhood, and I always assumed it was him. Stuff from the late 70s and early 80s like Telex. It might not have been him. But I like to think that I have a few of Anton Fier's records.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 October 2022 10:25 (two days ago) link

awesome street find whoever left them there!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 3 October 2022 12:44 (two days ago) link

Ok, I posted about those changes on the Spotify thread glenn posts on.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:53 (yesterday) link

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