iTunes ?

I dunno, works fine for me.

Everything's fine about it except for the miniplayer/streaming thing, but that's a dealbreaker, so there you go. If/when they fix that in 11, I'll reinstall it.

Fair nuff!

Weird, the ratings for 109 songs in my library got wiped out. I hate computers.

Oh, ratings are so fun and they take so much time!!

I'm a control freak about those playlists. When I'm going for a car ride, I need my four and five star tracks. I like taking people for a ride and they go, "this is good driving music" I don't think people riding in my car should be forced to listen to any old crap.

It's embarrassing and hilarious at the same time when you just leave the thing on in a carload of people and some really dated shit from the nineties comes BLARING at you!

Those "music match" programs mostly still suck. I used last.fm a bit to find out which bands sound like other bands, I got better mixes that way.

Also, you're right about itunes looking more and more like a Microsoft product. I thought they would have gotten a face lift by now...prettified. Still great for playlists and fun anal stats stuff like "last played" or "date added".

I'm wondering if there's a way, on the new version of iTunes, to bring back the thing at the bottom that tells you how many hours or days of music/podcasts are in your library? Seems a weird thing to do away with.

If you view it in songs it still tells you.

yeah if you re-enable the sidebar, view in songs mode, and switch the search function, it's basically a better version of v10

President Keyes, you can choose View/Status Bar (i think) and it will bring that bottom bar back.

thanks

Just watched a very funny South Park about the iTunes agreement. Sends up Apple rather grotesquely, which is cool.

JSUS how do I remove missing tracks on this thing? this is insane...

Is there any way of bringing back how many minutes or hours are in a specific selection of tracks? ie not an entire library or playlist.

highlight them and it's listed at the bottom in usual space

click menu button in top left corner and choose 'show menu bar'. go to the View menu and choose 'show status bar'

yess! ta

guh, itunes 11, wtf : /

times a million -

beef with itunes:

itunes suddenly has no internet connection (help, checking for updates, store, etc), and also isn't recognizing my iphone. both problems started happening at the same time. wtf is going on

itunes 11.2.2.3
iphone 5, 7.1.2

I used to use Privatunes to scrub my iTunes store-purchased files of info, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. Anyone know of a utility that will do this?

finally, finally i can view a playlist as a list of albums

(view a playlist, select Albums in the top right, you'll see a bunch of album covers instead of a list of tracks)

hasn't that been in there since 10?

Well, no, because clearly I would have noticed it, QED

Yeah I think that's been a feature for awhile. You could do choose how any grouping of albums displayed, whether playlist or full library.

my old playlists look like this

http://i.imgur.com/JEWfPwJ.png

but when I make a new playlist, it looks like this

http://i.imgur.com/YiiyRFv.png

How do I turn this off?

At the top-right of the iTunes window (just under the search box), switch from "Playlist" to "Songs"

sick, thank you!!!!!

lol, I had to talk my daughter down from a conniption fit about that exact issue last night. It definitely isn't intuitive or particularly easy to find.

i ran into this issue too. it's so stupid. don't like what they've done on the phone side either.

I accidentally made the iTunes window full screen and it took essentially total keyboard button mashing to get it back to normal. I still don't know what key to press. iTunes is amazing in the way it gets worse with every new version.

command + control + f will get you out of full-screen mode on any app. Intuitive, right? Everyone got it?

I eventually had to brute-force that stupid key combo into my head because I kept invoking full-screen. Does anyone use full-screen?

iTunes UI is the worst case of "it was working so we fixed it" software development ever. At least it still supports AppleScript.

I actually thought iTunes 10 was pretty good. Album flip view or whatever was great. Everything after has been abysmal.

Cover Flow was great, then Apple decided it was a terrible idea for some reason?

They can keep adding things but I really don't think I wanna use any function that wasn't there in 2005.

I wish that Apple initially split out books, podcast, videos, and everything that isn't music into their own separate apps instead of shoehorning the whole works into iTunes and then trying to undo it all. (think this would have been around iTunes 8 or 9?)

At least they did that with Books, so far. problem is they will still want the iTunes store to sell everything, so all the capability needs to be to be in the same client, naturally..

I have a feeling there's a lot of accounting plumbing upstream that naturally just takes forever to change. I just noticed that my iTunes purchase receipts now say Apple, Inc instead of iTunes.

iTunes ?

OK, now where did this go?

Found it... It's in "View" now!

Still the worst computer application that has ever been written.

Roffle I loved iTunes (I love a lot of shitty things, go figure).

I wanted as long as possible to make the switch from iTunes to the newish Mac Music app cause I knew there would be issues. WOW are there issues, so so many issues. I’ll skim past the part where Apple told me the same lie in three different tech support sessions, moving past how there’s a bug that randomly causes major issues on all sound output — not just the usual annoying clicking and popping noises, the bug causes my entire sound output to slow down. So fucked up haha.

Anyway now I’ve spent oh three months rebuilding my music library that Apple destroyed and I keep finding new weird quirks. If ANYONE else still uses this crap does this make sense?

Sometimes when I’m listening to a song in the song list of Music, and I try to “go to current song” [command-L] it will only show me the album view. There’s no way to jump to the current song in the list, it will only show me shitty album view, like it’s forcing it on me. Is there any rhyme or reason to this??

*WAITED as long as possible, not “wanted”

Alternatively I’m open to suggestions for replacements for Music on Mac. (I’ve also been exploring Ubuntu some too.)

The changeover from iTunes to iTunes Match to Apple Music was . . . less than perfect. I've encountered numerous instances of lost tracks and missing cover art. And the way Apple Music handles smart playlists on mobile devices is unpredictable.

I'm still limping by with iTunes on my MacBook Pro, terrified to make the switch. Ostensibly my library is on an external hard drive and I'm told it's "pretty easy" to switch with this type of external drive library but... I have my doubts.

Your doubts are very valid. The specific issue that I feel like killed my library (of fifteen years ha) is with syncing my iPhone. I use USB to sync — don’t trust this “cloud” jibberjabber — and now when I sync it copies the entire music library selected for my phone over again. I usually keep thousands of songs on there and like to sync frequently so I regard that as a dealbreaker.

I’ve been able to rebuild the library from scratch and recover a lot of the data from my old library by exporting playlists. Still l very tedious, but I actually want all my data, that’s why I stuck with these senescent apps.

I am pretty expert at transferring music libraries and glad to offer advice if needed when you decide to make the fatal leap.

But Jimbeaux I don’t really have any issues with smart playlists.

Ha, I'm even more old fashioned in that I don't sync at all with my iPhone, especially since my library is larger than the space on my phone, I just manually add and remove songs from the iPhone via USB.

Yeah I think we’re basically the same unless by “manual” you mean one-by-one?

My library wouldn’t fit on my phone either, I sync selected playlists. I have a main phone playlist and also use the “grouping” field like hashtags so I have smart playlists like ‘Lounge’ etc.