Slovenly - C/D & S/D

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i've seen a few threads mentioning these folks and i am must say i am intruiged. any suggestions of what their best material is etc. etc...
much appreciated.

Grell (Grell), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

"thinking of empire" and "riposte" are the best two.

dan (dan), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Seconded. But any Slovenly will do.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I happen to have these two with me today, for your perusal:

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

A buddy of mine was a big fan of Slovenly. I didn't really like a lot of their stuff, but there was an early 7" or EP that was really good. Not sure if such a thing would be available nowadays.

They did do a nice version of The Blue Orchids' "A Year With No Head," though.

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

sweet! thank you for the tracks. i'll have to keep an eye out for 'riposte' and 'thinking..'

Grell (Grell), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

admittedly, its a little less 'angular' than i was expecting.

Grell (Grell), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll try to dig out that EP/7" and get the name of it. It's more scratchy and uppity than the later records.

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Those tracks were a little more accessible than some others ... Definitely check out more....

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

wow! i am really starting to like those tracks that were YSI'ed. great stuff. thank you.

Grell (Grell), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I love the four SST albums I have, never heard any of the other stuff. The two that haven't been mentioned so far are firstly We Shoot For the Moon, which really seems to blare out of the speakers after the sparseness of Riposte which preceeded it; some of it sounds to me like the Shrubs playing the AMC songbook (that sounds shitty though, I keep trying to think of a simple formulation to describe Slovenly - I always fail). Then there was Highway to Hannos, which is probably not the best place to start, but I think it has some fantastic tracks on it - 'Blood Revealed', 'Instability', 'Smarm Pop'...

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I just noticed, I have this one at work too
She Was Bananas, from We Shoot for the Moon.
I just quoted this yesterday - but that's not so strange I guess, I quote it all the time.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Even So EP on New Alliance. Good luck finding one...

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Discography here:

"Thinking of Empire" SST is the perfect fall album. Good luck finding it; never reissued on CD. Best thing SST released (ducks and runs for cover).
"We Shoot For The Moon" SST is the perfect summer album. LP and CD.
"Riposte" SST is the perfect year-round album. LP and CD.
"Even So" (New Alliance) is the get ready for a party on Saturday night album.
"After the Original Style" (New Alliance) is a real edgy new-wavey stomper.
"Highway to Hanno's" SST is a bit of a yawner, but has its moments.

I've got all the Slovenly SST and New Alliance LPs. I digitized them for my in-car CD listening pleasure. I've never found a bootleg; anybody?

What I want to know is, WHERE IS THE SLOVENLY BOX SET?

Mr. Matching Mole, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Listened to Even So (1984) and After The Original Style (1985) tonight. Great stuff. Weirdly, they reminded me of an American, non-gloomy Joy Division at times. Also, Pavement - forget The Fall, Pavement ripped off Slovenly!

The song "Even So" contains these classic non sequitur lyrics:
I must be on drugs
or in a very slow time machine
join the genius club
no such great American misfits in our club
it doesn't matter - I'll never walk across America

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
i finally got a copy of Riposte today. its fucking ace!

thanks folks.

Grell (Grell), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

One of my favorite records of all time. A high school classic for me (I am 34) in the days when you would buy anything on SST. I put it on recently after almost 15 years and still knew literally every word. and that last track Emma went on every girls mix tape I made in high school.....check the new alliance albums, though, they are great stuff. los angeles teens trying to sound like british new wave (smiths, joy division) with mike watt probably standing over their shoulder saying "slap that bass" harder so it has this awkward funk to it. so damn good.

GALKIN (GALKIN), Friday, 13 January 2006 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Love of slovenly seconded- I'm the same age (34) and as a kid I bought it out of sheer SST love/trust and it was so odd yet so right, it just didn't seem to sound like anything else at all- the lyrics were brilliant. What's the one where the cover is a blurred out video still?

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 13 January 2006 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link

They used to play a lot in Bloomington IN when I was a college student in the mid-late 80's. Great live band also. I slacked on the records because you always used to see them around. My loss.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 13 January 2006 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

NickB (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2006 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link


DRAGON BONG Z (teenagequiet), Friday, 17 November 2006 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't even know quite what these geezers looked like until now. Anyone want to tell me which guitarist is which?

NickB (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2006 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

'The Way Untuths are'
Total classic.

Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Ha Ha

Dancing with myself - xpost.

Quite funny.

For some reason did a search on Slovenly and discovered that I was the last one to comment on them - during my previous incarnation (lost log-ins, new pc etc)

My 7 month old boy and partner are delighted for me and my continued love of Slovenly

Fer Ark, Thursday, 19 June 2008 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

for me it's all about the Even So 12" and thePlug 7". and they sure were great live.

nerve_pylon, Thursday, 19 June 2008 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

Such a bummer that the YouTube video disappeared :o(

NickB, Thursday, 19 June 2008 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Had totally missed the fact that there is a Slovenly MySpace page up and running with a couple of tracks up from 'After The Original Style' and 'Abernathy' plus some Overpass stuff too. Tom Watson says "several records were released through new alliance records (the minutemen’s label at the time), and sst records. they are almost imposible to find but i’m hoping to put them out again sometime soon". Do it Tom, do it!

NickB, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

I hope so too! I recently came into a digital copy of Highway to Hanno's and it floored me. Knowing it's not even their best work makes me want to hear everything else all the more.

MacDara, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, that's not the best place to start, but not bad either. Other three SST ones are all head and shoulders better. Going through a patch of love for Thinking of Empire at the moment. Always thought it was quite a English sounding record in many ways. Not the fantastic grasp of rhythm though, which the Fall or early New Order or whoever never really had. Well not like that anyhow. Some amazing drumming going on there, pulling all those cross-stitch guitars taut and propelling everything into totally another sphere.

NickB, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...


Enemy Insects (NickB), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:53 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...

^ video for 'Movement' is back up

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 26 December 2009 00:01 (ten years ago) link

This just made my day ten times over!

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 26 December 2009 20:52 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...
one year passes...

Saw Mike Watt and the Missingmen in Dublin on Saturday night, great show. Bushie from ESTEL got my CD covers signed by Watt and Tom Watson beforehand. Apparently Tom was very surprised - he hadn't seen the CD cover of Riposte since its only pressing in 1987! I'm glad he knows someone feels the love.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 20 June 2011 12:22 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Really wish Slovenly would get a proper revival. Truly one of the best of the "forgotten" American bands. . .

Austin, Friday, 5 April 2013 07:19 (six years ago) link

Seconded. Still waiting for any news on a reissue campaign. Potential legal wranglings aside, why Drag City or some label like that never leapt at this opportunity is beyond me...

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 5 April 2013 07:29 (six years ago) link

Maybe they're stuck in SST limbo, like everyone else who was on the label.

luigi nono no-no-nono no-no-nono (Matt #2), Friday, 5 April 2013 08:37 (six years ago) link

I could even see Thinking Of Empire sitting quite nicely alongside a lot of the stuff LTM has reissued, always thought there was heavy whiff of Manchester post-punk on that album.

Have seen quite a few live videos of this lot now, but have found them all a bit disappointing tbh. Maybe it's just the murky quality of the recordings but on stage they seemed to do quite a good job of completely suppressing their tunes.

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 09:20 (six years ago) link

Actually I take that back - this live set from 1987 is great:

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 08:54 (six years ago) link

Needs saying what a fine drummer Holzman is, could listen to e.g. Distended all day long for his part, my ears are just fascinated by that stuff. Talk about well-oiled gears.

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 10:25 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

sitting semi-sober, horribly bored

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 24 October 2014 23:37 (five years ago) link

this is a great early 7", joy division influence very apparent:

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 24 October 2014 23:41 (five years ago) link

and that one song where they sound really like tful282:

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 24 October 2014 23:50 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

It's like the older their music gets, the more timeless it becomes. I literally can't get enough of this band.

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 11 October 2015 15:31 (four years ago) link

why Drag City or some label like that never leapt at this opportunity is beyond me...

I just bought After the Original Style and Thinking of Empire after only having them digitally for many years from the same seller on Discogs and they arrived in a package postmarked from, you guessed it, Drag City.

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 11 October 2015 15:35 (four years ago) link

Big connection between drag city and the slovs is that Tom Watson plays on some of those later red krayola records that dc put out

Haino Corrida (NickB), Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:09 (four years ago) link

I've never ventured into Red Krayola. Is it worthwhile for a Slovenly guy like myself?

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:21 (four years ago) link

Not fully investigated them tbh but i didn't really enjoy the couple I heard at all

Haino Corrida (NickB), Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:28 (four years ago) link

to take it back to Slovenly, this song rules the wasteland:

the tune was space, Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:30 (four years ago) link

that final "I'm NOT LOOOOONNNNNNEE-LEEEEEEE" part = shivers

the tune was space, Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:30 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I think as far as capturing an isolated mood that's equal parts doom and somehow hopeful, they were kings. It's like a melancholy happiness. Such a unique feeling that they were able to capture.

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:35 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

is this the same steve anderson? this obit seems to paint the picture of him as an austin scene dude, but weren't the slovs mainly bay area / west coast dudes?

this is steve from slovenly sitting atop the ladder:

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:01 (five months ago) link

Doesn’t look like the same guy so i’m pretty sure that’s a different Steve Anderson. From discogs it seems like there were two different punk bands called toxic shock in the early 80s, one with some slovenly guys (Watson, ziegler and anderson) and another from Austin that had David Yow on bass and the other Steve Anderson on guitar.

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:33 (five months ago) link

Hey just found this new slovenly interview that was in PSF a couple of months back! Steve Anderson lives!

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:43 (five months ago) link

holy shit, nick! that link is invaluable. what a find! i am ever so grateful.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:54 (five months ago) link

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