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Please, help me, because I cannot put my love for this album into words!

― PKW, Monday, 24 October 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

its sh*t, well apart from mistakes and regrets

― Mark, Monday, 24 October 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

The title track is a billion times better than every other song in their catalog.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Burning Brides blew them off the stage when I saw them.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Their singer made fun of my shirt at a Fall show and I almost called him an old bastard. Because he is one. Also, his article on Baroque art is pretentious, ill-informed, and poorly-written. However, their music has been consistently pretty good (I even liked "Worlds Apart" okay), even if it's constantly threatening to spill over into the abyss with Rush, Yes, ELP, et al.

― owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Most underwhelming/overhyped album of '02, and what began my souring with Pitchfork.

― js (honestengine), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

and hey, mistakes & regrets isn't even ON source tags & codes.

― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

That's one of my favorite albums of all time. Look into my pasty white face and tell me I'm wrong!!!

http://gbvbb.homestead.com/files/gygax2.jpg

― gygax!!!, Monday, 24 October 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

i almost threw this out the window driving on I-5 back from LA after I bought it, I hated it so much

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

maybe i missed something, but my review at the time was a 4 line poem explaining how i had nothing to say, because one should say nothingif one has nothing nice to say.

other peoples minds are evidently different than mine, so i hope someone or manyone can say something interesting, because....

― bb (bbrz), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

i like that album better than anything else they've done. solid, but not a classic or anything.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

It makes me wonder why Opeth aren't more popular.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Opeth isn't pussy enough

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

It's an overrated slice of mushmouth bombast, but its got a few nice hooks on it.

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

That post can be used for over half the albums that get indie raves.

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I really liked the album.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

this band isn't half as cool as their name makes them sound like they'd be. it's pussy music for pussy people. k thx bye

― richard wood johnson, Monday, 24 October 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

wait, wait, we're mocking "pussy people" but ending a post with "k thx bye"?

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

It's a good album in theory and in practice, and most albums that are going for the same thing aren't really that great, so it gets extra points. "How Near How Far", in paritcular, is 4 minutes of rock perfection.

Not quite as good as "You're Living All Over Me", but I think it's as good as anything by Sonic Youth.

― James Morris (HorrayJames), Monday, 24 October 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and Opeth being more popular would be good (though they seem to Gods at rateyourmusic.com)

― James Morris (HorrayJames), Monday, 24 October 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

be Gods, rather

― James Morris (HorrayJames), Monday, 24 October 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

Does it actually sound like Yes or Rush?

― Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

"How Near How Far" is on Source Tags and Codes which is good enough for me.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

I really like the guitarplay on "Another Morning Stoner," but the rest of the album is pretty worthless. The Madonna album is even worse.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

Great Album! One of my Top F0 Favorite of all time

― Voodoo Child, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

Does it actually sound like Yes or Rush?

not in the slightest. More like Superchunk meets the Arcade Fire.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

only instrumental. and longer.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

argh i was thinking of a completely diff't band--plz disregard earlier. thanks

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

Superchunk or Supertramp?

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

my pasty white head is going to pop like a pimple.

http://gbvbb.homestead.com/files/gygax2.jpg

― gygaxx!, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

wait, wait, we're mocking "pussy people" but ending a post with "k thx bye"?

I see no conflict here.

ha, but seriously, i was just being silly.

― richard wood johnson, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

all these off-handed remarks prove to me that muthafukas don't take the time with albums anymore....Superchunk meets Arcade Fire? Why? Because its punk mixed with epic? Rush? Yes? Why? Because the songs sometimes are longer than 5 minutes? Its this type of lazy, narrow-referencing that destroys any possibility of rational discussion...muthafukas are too quick to generalize, and can't "get" anything that isn't easily identifiable..This album is better than any rock album released this year...the barely controlled chaos reigning in both subtle (How Near How Far) and HUGE(Relative Ways) hooks...the perfect sequencing...the delicious guitar interplay (especially, as mentioned, in Another Morning Stoner)..the wretching emotional intensity...and no, its not possible to truly appreciate it unless you give it time (at least 15-20 listens)

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

"Superchunk meets Arcade Fire" totally contains "the barely controlled chaos reigning in both subtle (How Near How Far) and HUGE(Relative Ways) hooks...the perfect sequencing...the delicious guitar interplay (especially, as mentioned, in Another Morning Stoner)..the wretching emotional intensity...and no, its not possible to truly appreciate it unless you give it time (at least 15-20 listens)," dude. Those two bands wracked up all that bullshit.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

plus the needly whine and timpani!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I wish they sounded more like Rush and Yes. When they get epic and anthemic they're decent, but too often it's just sludgy bullshit.

― sunshine superman, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

if you play the album backwards, you'll see that they're actually covering Cats by Andrew Lloyd Webber, something I discovered whilst holding the album up to a mirror and noting the first word of each letter in the title.

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

"This album is better than any rock album released this year"

rock albums released this year better than source tags and codes

black mountain, the sunlandic twins, blessed black wings, rizzograph, another day on earth, z, apologies to the queen mary, feels, road to rouen, school of the flower, "buck dharma," akron/family, tender buttons, strange geometry

― sunshine superman, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

A god-awful crap album that I need to remember to sell back... although "It Was There That I Saw You" rocks my world.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

..and no, its not possible to truly appreciate it unless you give it time (at least 15-20 listens)

This is insanity.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

It's an emogoth classic, along with the first My Chemical Romance and the latest Blink182 and some stuff that AFI did, possibly. (I can't decide whether 'emogoth' or 'eyeliner emo' is a better tenuous genre name.)

'Madonna' is better, though.

― spontine (cis), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I've heard every one of those albums except akron/family, and not one of them feels as complete and crafted as STAC...Wolf Parade's album is the only one on there without a weak track, and though its one of my favorite this year, it doesn't hit the heights of STAC...School of the flower is great also, but much more meandering, and doesn't share the same impact....Feels has songs like "Flesh Canoe" and "Daffy Duck" holding it back...Supergrass is dissapointingly bland|middle of the road....I could go on.....but it's sad to see people write of STAC so easily...if I saw some sort of critique that wasn't either rashly dismissive or some lazy comparison, I could maybe understand...but this reeks of "believing the hype" b/c its hard to see what could be so offensive about an album so consistantly and diversely transcendent...or, at least, I can't see how you'd like Sonic Youth and not appreciate this

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I liked this album a lot. I thought the sequencing was great.

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

My Chemical Romance and the latest Blink182 and some stuff that AFI

Madonna is excellent...but Trail of Dead hardly yields even a passing resemblence to those bands you mention

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

not everybody likes diversely transcendent albums!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

obv. we all have different tastes.... some like diversely pubescent albums...but regardless of taste, shouldn't the best music lie beyond our ordinary range of perception? ...but maybe that explains a lot...that's why I wrote "I can't see how you'd like Sonic Youth and not appreciate this"...trying to scale it down

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

I had a hard time getting through this album even while riding a stationary bike (true story).

― mike powell (mike powell), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

x-post, I guess that's not "interesting" as per the thread's title.

― mike powell (mike powell), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

but regardless of taste, shouldn't the best music lie beyond our ordinary range of perception?

You dirty dirty hippie.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

The 'faintly related to stuff that sonic youth have done' tag applies to Madonna, I think, more than to STAC. I've known people who hate SY and love ToD, and a larger number of people who think ToD are rubbish and adore SY.

Anyway, I think STAC is an emo-sounding album, much more than the others (admittedly I only listened to Worlds Apart once because it made me curl up and die inside that a band who had been my favourite once could become so shit)- there some kind of attitude to rhythm, something in the sound that I've only come across in stuff I'm told is emo (and isn't e.g. Far or e.g. Dashboard/Death Cab). Still very Trail of Dead sounding, but... also v emo. It was kind of disapointing for that - it felt more conventional, I think.

'Transcendent' it is not.

(of the three i mentioned it is nearest to the first MCR and not like the others, but then emogoth is an aesthetic, you get me, and has divers subscribers.
Also I suspect I am a sad philistine who finds that most indie rock bears a passing resemblance to other indie rock.)

― spontine (cis), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

This album is better than any rock album released this year

― billstevejim, Friday, 30 September 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

That doesn't look obvious that I was quoting, but I just wanted to apply this to 2011.

― billstevejim, Friday, 30 September 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

i streamed this on spotify on a nostalgic whim. havent heard this since high school (03 or 04) during peak-pitchfork thought following. fuck if i dont love this record! color me surprised.

― brosario nawson (m bison), Thursday, 12 February 2015 04:08 (eleven years ago)

FUNNY STORY
when I was into maxing-out all my burned CDs, I did one that prefaced Sonic Youth's Dirty with 3 ...Trail of Dead songs that I happened to like but not own on CD ("Richter Scale Madness", "Clair de Lune", "Will You Smile Again for Me")

a pairing which occurred to me because of ToD's alleged heavy SY-biting, which I always had trouble hearing
"Richter Scale Madness" definitely stood out as derivative in this context (altho more derivative of Daydream Nation than anything else SY)

but my main takeaway was that the segue from "Will You Smile..." --> "100%" works really astonishingly well
to the point where my enjoyment of either song outside this particular sequence has been noticeably diminished =/

― The Sremminine Mystique (bernard snowy), Thursday, 12 February 2015 05:39 (eleven years ago)

oh I see that the Sonic Youth thing has been mentioned ITT

― The Sremminine Mystique (bernard snowy), Thursday, 12 February 2015 05:41 (eleven years ago)

smh

― franklin, Thursday, 12 February 2015 05:43 (eleven years ago)

... franklin?

― The Sremminine Mystique (bernard snowy), Thursday, 12 February 2015 05:45 (eleven years ago)

... I think we lost em

― one weird tree hill party trick (bernard snowy), Thursday, 12 February 2015 05:49 (eleven years ago)

"Write something interesting about "Source Tags And Codes" that hasn't been said so far" --> "oh I see that the Sonic Youth thing has been mentioned ITT"

just necessary smhing in response to such anarchic behavior

― franklin, Thursday, 12 February 2015 05:51 (eleven years ago)

Hard to believe there's anything that hasn't been said about this inescapable cultural monolith.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 12 February 2015 09:53 (eleven years ago)

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