KLF - did they rock you?

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In their song "3am Eternal" the KLF claim that they "are gonna rock you". The question is, do/did they?

If you ask me, there isn't nearly enough Africa in their sequenced drum patterns and my personal response would have to be "Well, ever so nice of you to ask, but no you don't/didn't rock me in the slightest as a matter of fact". Am I getting old?

Chris, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

No, but they excited and thrilled me. Is that enough?

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

geez, I was totally thinking about asking about the KLF on ILM today.

I think you are taking the KLF a little too seriously. They were a couple geezers up for a laugh, and they certainly had one. I thought their music was alright, but 1987(WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON) is an absolutely brilliant album. It is rare as hens teeth as it was only on the shelves for about a day before it was pulled due to copyright violations. A buddy of mine has a vinyl copy and it is absolute madness. Think of rabidly plunderphonic hip-hop as done by the beastie boys if a. they had not tried to sound even remotely influenced by NYC black culture, b. they were hell bent on career suicide, and c. if they had absolutely no flow.

It sounds like it would be god awful, but it is so intentionally bad and purposely clever that is breaks through into genius.

I always thought their writing was more interesting than their music. Check The KLF's Guide To Having a #1 Hit Single The Easy Way, also The White Room Script, and the story about spending 24 hours continously driving on the M03. Simultainously hysterical and insightful. They knew exactly what they were doing.

mt, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a copy of 1987:WTFIGO? and it was pretty darned funny. I was never able to really be rocked by the KLF because of that. I know some people who swear by Chill Out, but I was always waiting for their followup to "The Queen and I".

Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

klf were cool.

ethan, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

bill drummond is cool.

paul, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

They were funny and subversive, they made a joyous cultureclash single with Tammy Wynette, a wonderful album in The White Room, and the best chillout album ever, Chill Out. Add the hilarious early sampling extravaganzas and the dumb gesture of burning £1m, and how can you not adore them?

Anyone remember Bill Drummond's great pre-JAMMs reply number, Julian Cope Is Dead?

Martin Skidmore, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

that was off of the creation album, wasnt it, martin?

paul, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the KLF's great achievements was putting out, like, five singles from The White Room. The single versions are completely different from the album versions: generally faster, hookier - just more pop really. 'Last Train to Trancentral' is, to me, the epitome of this method: it's just hook after hook after hook, with a bonkers half-time breakdown and, at the end when it appears no more can possibly happen, a cameo dalek voice chanting 'Mu Mu'. Pop genius.

Ben Butler, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"If you ask me, there isn't nearly enough Africa in their sequenced drum patterns"

Compared to what house/techno?

Tim, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, you're getting old. KLF DID rock us, and not only that, they burned a million quid, which of course, makes everything else from here to eternity turn to shite.

cha cha, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

On my copy of "1987", The Queen & I is scratched and the needle jumps. How annoying is that?
Has anyone got/heard "Edits", the 'legal' version of the LP? So short, it retailed at the price of a 12" single + came with instructions on how to recreate the original record. I could never decide if this was classic or dud.

Jeff W, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Bill Drummon - great pop thinker, great pop hitmaker, great pop manager, superb writer, totally inspirational, and responsible for some of my favourite ever records. None more classic. And yes they did rock me.

Tom, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I often think that the best album never made was "The White Room" but with the 12" single mixes replacing the album cuts and the addition of 12"s of "It's Grim Up North," "America: What Time Is Love?" and the B-side of the latter "America No More." Now would that be the greatest album ever or what?

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, AND the Extreme Noise Terror version of 3AM Eternal as well as Wynette on Justified and Ancient, needless to say.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The very definition of having rocked me. Though sometimes I think I want to be Bill Drummond, so I would say that.

RickyT, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think a KLF box set with all the mixes, side projects and other assorted madness is urgent and key. Even if they never released anthing they'd still be better than most groups. Me, I'd love to hear the Scottish world cup song as imagined in 45, that would surely rock me.

Billy Dods, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh God yes. They ruled.

stevo, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"I think a KLF box set with all the mixes, side projects and other assorted madness is urgent and key" you need to get ed to burn you his mp3 cd that he bought in russia which had every thing the klf has ever done on one or two cds. it is of course totally illegal.

can you burn cds of mp3's?

he also has evry kraftwerk release via the same method

alternatively. fly to russia/bulgaria/somewhere like that and buy a copy. they cost 50 roubles. (1 pound 25). maybe 60.

ambrose, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Will, Ed be my special fwiend and do that? Would work out cheaper than flying to Russia methinks.

Billy Dods, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Ed should be all our friends.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You are, of course, all right.

The KLF were utterly (utterly utterly) BRILLIANT.

"Three-ay-ee-am; Three-ayeee-ay-em; Three-ay-ee-ay-em-ETERN-UA-AL!!!"

You know the score.

William Blake said he wasn't interested in what could be made "explicit to the idiot" - what on earth was he on about?!

Good for you Tom btw, I didn't think it was possible to adore the Smiths and the KLF...

Where is Drummond when his country needs him?!!!

Chris, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

picked up a copy of the america...what time is love? 12" today - for the hell of it and cuz it was cheap. not something you often see in the us, though i imagine it's a dollar-bin staple in the uk. never was a fan (they never made a dent in the us charts) but this is insane and hilarious and truly truly great. a parody of american excess? i dunno, but it has rocked me.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 05:15 (eleven years ago) link

That's my favourite KLF track. It's so over the top it's incredible. Brilliant cover too, both of them - the one with the sitars and also the longboat one (different in the US).

everything, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

mine's got the longboat cover, which IS great and suits the music perfectly. listened to it 3 times in a row.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 06:13 (eleven years ago) link

they never made a dent in the us charts

"3 a.m. Eternal" was big in the US and wikipedia says top 5 Billboard.

And oh yeah, they rocked me. One of the greatest ever groups/artists/acts etc etc of all time.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 07:55 (eleven years ago) link

i think you missed the subtext in my earlier remark which might be dumbed-down as, "they never made a dent in the us charts during a period when i was paying more attention to the billboard charts than to my toenails and hey check out this insane sloth."

subtext

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:16 (eleven years ago) link

/unfunny

it kinda blows my mind that they made #5 in '91, cuz at that point i WAS at least half aware of radio pop and i missed it entirely.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:18 (eleven years ago) link

I guess it was a hit because it mentioned "Rock"

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 08:47 (eleven years ago) link

plus i lied earlier abt not being a fan. i now remember owning and loving the shit out of their cover of the dr. who theme once upon a really long time ago (late 80s sometime, basically in my childhood). so i guess the truth is that i not only now but always have loved the klf. so what must i hear next?

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 09:28 (eleven years ago) link

"If you ask me, there isn't nearly enough Africa in their sequenced drum patterns"
what on earth does this mean?

just finished reading the 17 and was left feeling disappointed, drummond has turned into little more than a grumpy old fart. standing in front of a class of schoolchildren and telling them music is irrelevant seems unhelpful and dickish. plus i don't feel the whole 'recording 17 people going hmmmm then deleting it' is quite the genius idea he thinks it is.

NI, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 10:20 (eleven years ago) link

i fought my way through the 17 book recently as well.
enjoyable in parts, but yes, he needs to lighten up.
i ended up agreeing with his mate at the end who bluntly tells him on one of their traditional journeys that the whole 17 thing is crap basically.
the breakdown of his life on a year by year basis is rather fascinating though.

mark e, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, just got to finish it about 2 days ago.

Seems like the dude's rich enough to just fanny around thesedays.

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

weren't the klf & co the biggest selling act in the world in 1991 or thereabouts? playing huge stadiums in russia etc. burning £1m probably wasn't probably as big a kick to his bank balance as you'd expect

NI, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 10:59 (eleven years ago) link

part of the current wealth reason : the ongoing success of the Proclaimers

he admits as much re their chart topping charity single for which he refused to let go of the royalties

mark e, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/user/klfcommunicationsnet

^AMAZING RESOURCE

SBing Crosby (haitch), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

it is - just wasted an hour there. "doctoring the tardis" turns out to be more goofy than revelatory, tho fun. and i realize now that i also used to own the "justified & ancient" 12-inch (or an album it appeared on, something like that). more or less the version featured in the vid. shit is bonkers yo - SO FUCKING GREAT tho i remember it being too fruity for me at the time.

i think i am a fan

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

Their last public appearance before retiring always raises a smile from UK types of a certain age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgaik2as06c

everything, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

I feel compelled to recommend Drummond's AMAZING early solo album The Man on every KLF thread.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, it's great. Notwithstanding his current, well-earned curmudgeon status, I think he's a genius.

everything, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Revive!

Where the hell are these chants of "MU-MU! MU-MU!" in "Last Train to Trancentral"?

Wigglypedia sez:
Splendid Magazine said of the LP version: "The cries of "Mu Mu! Mu Mu! Mu Mu! Mu Mu!" take on a strangely liberating, mantra-like feel. It's the essence of great pop music, of great dance music, wholly compressed."

Tom Ewing, in his Top 100 Singles of the 90s list, sez:
And then it fades away and the chanting begins – “MU MU! MU MU! MU MU! KLF!”

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

Yes they did rock me.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

At the end of the Live from the Lost Continent version, it changes from "Woo-Woo" to "MU-MU"(?)

everything, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

I've been on a early 90s jamz kick and never realized before how much of an exact rip the 3AM Eternal single is of Snap - 'The Power', down to the Eastern European voice sample at the start. feckin brilliant - How to Have a No 1 the Easy Way indeed...

Fahrvergnügent (herb albert), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

I think 3AM Eternal came first though - the first version came out in 89, The Power was a hit in 1990.

I just remembered that in one of his books Julian Cope inspiringly uses "Bill Drummond" as an adjective, as in "David Balfe was Bill Drummonded to the tits". Made me laugh.

everything, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

Here is the "Last Train to Trancentral" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqxtBggVsi0

Now would that be the "MU MU!"s there at 3:24?

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

That's what I was thinking, yeah. It's "woo-woo" up till then, then for the last chorus it's "MU MU!".

everything, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

Has anyone got/heard "Edits", the 'legal' version of the LP? So short, it retailed at the price of a 12" single + came with instructions on how to recreate the original record. I could never decide if this was classic or dud.
― Jeff W, Sunday, February 24, 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-lDwwW7Ql0

naus, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 09:18 (eleven years ago) link

+ the instructions themselves:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/woolner/3339270412/sizes/o/

naus, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 09:21 (eleven years ago) link

consider me 100% rocked.

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

ta Dan, as I expected.
it was a glorious moment in which the guys declared their love for dance music as opposed to the JAMMS hip hop origins.
for me that 12" was a massively defining release as I too was a hip hop kid, but getting bored with the genre.
so to hear a 12" that hit the house groove using a song I hated was a big wake up and opened my ears to a whole new world.
its anything but a novelty, it was the perfect bridge from JAMMS to the KLF.

mark e, Friday, 21 December 2018 21:04 (two years ago) link

and yes .. "joyous" is the perfect word for it.

mark e, Friday, 21 December 2018 21:05 (two years ago) link

haha.
sorry, old habits die hard.

mark e, Friday, 21 December 2018 21:51 (two years ago) link

Whoops!

Dan Worsley, Friday, 21 December 2018 22:02 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

6 part BBC radio drama “How to Burn a Million Quid”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06x3pn5

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 21:56 (one year ago) link

.. and Bill Drummond's response ( received via email, this morning)

The JAMs don’t do Sidekicks

You are either in The JAMs or you are not in The JAMs.

In an English national newspaper in January 2019, there was a short piece about a podcast called How To Burn A Million Quid. It would have been written by a journalist just trying to get a job done.

A job that they might not have been thinking that much about.

A job that needed a sprinkling of adjectives etc to spice it up.

In this short piece Jimmy Cauty, my colleague of some thirty years and counting, was passingly defined as a sidekick. I don’t think I have ever known someone to be less of a sidekick than Jimmy Cauty. But even more important than that – The JAMs don’t do sidekicks.

The media often make assumptions about the roles of those working in creative partnerships. This is often done for the sake of the story that is being told. And we all want our stories to be simply understood. We want to know who the baddy is and who the goody is from the moment the film starts etc…

Over those thirty years and counting that Jimmy Cauty and I have been working together most of the memorable things that we have done as The JAMs started as a passing suggestion by Jimmy Cauty. This is a list of some of those suggestions:

1: Including ABBA's Dancing Queen on the album 1987 – What The Fuck's Going On?

2: Using the Doctor Who theme in a pop song and combining it with the glitter beat

3: Creating The KLF crop circle in Wiltshire

4: Using the cash from Doctorin’ The Tardis to make a road movie

5: Creating a KLF wicker man on the isle of Jura

6: Performing a metal version of 3AM and using a machine gun at the Brits

7: Deleting the KLF catalogue

8: Burying the Brit award at Stonehenge

9: The 1994 K Foundation award for worst artist

10: Burning the money

But the narrative that seems to keep coming up time and time again, is that Bill Drummond comes up with the unrealistic ideas and Jimmy Cauty has to use practical skills to make them a reality. Or that it is me that comes up with the words and Jimmy Cauty comes up with the tunes.

Wrong…

When I got my first guitar at the age of 15, and after I had done the Bert Weedon Play in a Daybook, I bought the Bob Dylan Song Book and learnt the chord structure of every song in it. And from there I went to learn the chord structures of every hit that Goffin & King had ever written. And it is that knowledge I used in the basic structures of almost all of The KLF tracks. Whereas when Jimmy Cauty got his first guitar he learnt every riff that Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page had ever played. And it was with that understanding and knowledge he was able to create the riffs in almost all of The KLF tracks.

In any creative partnership there is no simple black and white. The sum is always greater than the parts.

Neither of us could have ever done it with anyone else.

I hoped I would never have to talk about The KLF again in my life, let alone find myself writing about it, but that line in that newspaper has prompted this outburst.

The JAMs don’t do sidekicks.

Bill Drummond 30 January 2019

Mark G, Thursday, 31 January 2019 12:27 (one year ago) link

awesome

nxd, Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:11 (one year ago) link

Did BBC edit that blurb, cos I don't see the word "sidekick" or anything equivalent there?

Tuomas, Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:27 (one year ago) link

It wasn't the podcast itself he's referring to, the English national newspaper piece is here: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/25/what-made-the-klf-burn-a-million-pounds-podcasts-of-the-week?CMP=share_btn_tw

willem, Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:51 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

I managed to get a copy of "2023", the "novel" that is seemingly authored by the KLF.

Despite the Amazon reviewer suggesting it's "probably" more the work of Drummond that Cauty (once again)..

I find that it's quite an entertaining read. The Amz reviews are either 1 star or 5, but hey. Also, most say it's "inpenetrable", but who wants to penetrate a book?

Mark G, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:24 (one year ago) link

hey don't knock it etc etc

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 13 May 2019 10:29 (one year ago) link

!

Mark G, Monday, 13 May 2019 17:00 (one year ago) link

just ordered it since it's like 50% off on Amazon... hope it's better than the Julian Cope novel from a few years back

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 13 May 2019 17:13 (one year ago) link

probably" more the work of Drummond that Cauty (once again)..


You are either in The JAMs or you are not in The JAMs.

In an English national newspaper in January 2019, there was a short piece about a podcast called How To Burn A Million Quid. It would have been written by a journalist just trying to get a job done.

A job that they might not have been thinking that much about.

A job that needed a sprinkling of adjectives etc to spice it up.

In this short piece Jimmy Cauty, my colleague of some thirty years and counting, was passingly defined as a sidekick. I don’t think I have ever known someone to be less of a sidekick than Jimmy Cauty. But even more important than that – The JAMs don’t do sidekicks.

The media often make assumptions about the roles of those working in creative partnerships. This is often done for the sake of the story that is being told. And we all want our stories to be simply understood. We want to know who the baddy is and who the goody is from the moment the film starts etc…

Over those thirty years and counting that Jimmy Cauty and I have been working together most of the memorable things that we have done as The JAMs started as a passing suggestion by Jimmy Cauty. This is a list of some of those suggestions:
Including ABBA’s Dancing Queen on the album 1987 – What The Fuck’s Going On?
Using the Doctor Who theme in a pop song and combining it with the glitter beat
Creating The KLF crop circle in Wiltshire
Using the cash from Doctorin’ The Tardis to make a road movie
Creating a KLF wicker man on the isle of Jura
Performing a metal version of 3AM and using a machine gun at the Brits
Deleting the KLF catalogue
Burying the Brit award at Stonehenge
The 1994 K Foundation award for worst artist
Burning the money

But the narrative that seems to keep coming up time and time again, is that Bill Drummond comes up with the unrealistic ideas and Jimmy Cauty has to use practical skills to make them a reality. Or that it is me that comes up with the words and Jimmy Cauty comes up with the tunes.

Wrong…

When I got my first guitar at the age of 15, and after I had done the Bert Weedon Play in a Daybook, I bought the Bob Dylan Song Book and learnt the chord structure of every song in it. And from there I went to learn the chord structures of every hit that Goffin & King had ever written. And it is that knowledge I used in the basic structures of almost all of The KLF tracks. Whereas when Jimmy Cauty got his first guitar he learnt every riff that Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page had ever played. And it was with that understanding and knowledge he was able to create the riffs in almost all of The KLF tracks.

In any creative partnership there is no simple black and white. The sum is always greater than the parts.

Neither of us could have ever done it with anyone else.

I hoped I would never have to talk about The KLF again in my life, let alone find myself writing about it, but that line in that newspaper has prompted this outburst.

The JAMs don’t do sidekicks.

Bill Drummond 30 January 2019

blokes you can't rust (sic), Monday, 13 May 2019 19:39 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Don't let weedy St Etienne kick out the JAMs – vote for It's Grim Up North

Group III.13: I've never felt so strong

Saint Etienne! https://t.co/v7roiHGtFX
Grace Jones! https://t.co/OJvy6fF86v
New Order! https://t.co/KkyIMe586q
The JAMS! https://t.co/8YN780vt4p

— Tom Ewing (@tomewing) May 21, 2020

Alba, Friday, 22 May 2020 14:18 (seven months ago) link

I mean, I like all these tracks but the top two go through and St Etienne are well represented elsewhere.

Alba, Friday, 22 May 2020 14:19 (seven months ago) link

Also there's at least one other better Saint Et song still in the game (Avenue)

nashwan, Friday, 22 May 2020 15:00 (seven months ago) link

seven months pass...

Fuck me, they’re rereleasing their catalogue.

As the first in a series of The KLF's back catalogue selections officially hits streaming services on January 1st, this year has already proven to be much better than 2020.#kickoutthejams https://t.co/P7mhVSS3tW

— KLF Online (@KLF_Online) January 1, 2021

Dan Worsley, Friday, 1 January 2021 11:10 (two weeks ago) link

woah

nxd, Friday, 1 January 2021 11:26 (two weeks ago) link

Following is posted on the new KLF YouTube channel:

KLF exist.

KLF have appropriated the work done between the
1st of January 1987 and 31st of December 1991 by
The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu,
The Timelords
The KLF

This appropriation was in order to tell a story in five chapters using the medium of streaming.

The name of the story is SAMPLECITY THRU TRANCENTRAL.

The five chapters are:

1. Kick Out The JAMs,
2. Pure Trance Series,
3. Come Down Dawn,
4. Moody Boys Selection
5. Solid State Logik (Parts 1 &2).

If you need to know more about the work done by The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu, The Timelords or The KLF, you can find truths, rumours and half-truths scattered across the internet.

From these truths, rumours and half-truths, you can form your own opinions.

The actual facts were washed down a storm drain in Brixton some time in the late 20th century.

Further information can be found on a poster, fly posted under a railway bridge on the Kingsland Road in London on the 31st of December 2020.

I am using your worlds, Friday, 1 January 2021 11:59 (two weeks ago) link

Would be interested seeing what is on this poster.

I am using your worlds, Friday, 1 January 2021 11:59 (two weeks ago) link

There's also The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu vs. Extreme Noise Terror - 3AM Eternal (From The Black Room) with a new edit of the video

I am using your worlds, Friday, 1 January 2021 12:02 (two weeks ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqpBnJ0XAAUNQGb?format=jpg

piscesx, Friday, 1 January 2021 15:00 (two weeks ago) link

goat

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 1 January 2021 17:59 (two weeks ago) link

Oh shit

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 January 2021 18:02 (two weeks ago) link

just hope they put this stuff up on bandcamp.

mark e, Friday, 1 January 2021 18:37 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah but it'll either cost a million pounds per track or will just be files made to sound like lo-res rips. (I fully endorse either of these moves.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 January 2021 18:44 (two weeks ago) link

OK, so all of the "Pure Trance" series?

Colour me interested...

Mark G, Friday, 1 January 2021 18:50 (two weeks ago) link

Will donate organs in exchange for the "Pure Trance" series.

stirmonster, Friday, 1 January 2021 18:57 (two weeks ago) link

while i kind of agree with Ned.
i still want them to be available to download/buy, especially the PT stuff as stirmonster says.

mark e, Friday, 1 January 2021 19:15 (two weeks ago) link

i saw a comment somewhere that this is all due to bill getting a whopping tax demand.
can anyone confirm deny such detail ?

mark e, Friday, 1 January 2021 19:17 (two weeks ago) link

no but it's prima facie absurd bcz

Now they are on Spotify we can look forward to the film “The KLF Earn A Millionth Of A Quid”

— Joel Morris (@gralefrit) January 2, 2021

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:46 (two weeks ago) link

Was gonna say (but not as well..)

Possibly opens up for licensing/advertising/TVbeds etc..

Mark G, Saturday, 2 January 2021 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

I missed a lot of this stuff the first time around and I'm really only familiar with Chill Out and The White Room. What is the Pure Trance series? Was it just the trance remixes on those two big singles?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 2 January 2021 17:31 (two weeks ago) link

The What Time Is Love 1988 Pure Trance Original is presumably on there? my fav version still

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wzdTTSA7nQ

StanM, Saturday, 2 January 2021 17:42 (two weeks ago) link

xp It's complicated....The link Mark G posted is super detailed and goes into the history of the series. You may want to skip to page 3 if you're not interested in their early JAMMS incarnation.

http://www.forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-klf-album-by-single-by-album.692361/

I do recommend this one, a KLF rundown.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 10:18 (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 2 January 2021 17:46 (two weeks ago) link

What is the Pure Trance series? Was it just the trance remixes on those two big singles?

There were 3 Pure Trance 12" singles (with another couple scheduled that never appeared). They were "What Time Is Love?", '3AM Eternal" and "Last Train To Trancentral" and these were the original versions of those tracks that were all later reworked into big pop hits

stirmonster, Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:13 (two weeks ago) link

2 of which i believe were only available on cd via this cheap-n-cheerful compilation

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Warehouse-Raves-4/master/24021

mark e, Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:15 (two weeks ago) link

i did not know they had ever seen a cd release so many thanks for that.

stirmonster, Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:23 (two weeks ago) link

i picked the cd up in a cheap bin many years ago.
obviously, well chuffed i did once i realised.
also, some of the other tracks are absolutely fantastic.

mark e, Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:25 (two weeks ago) link

indeed. several eternal faves on there.

stirmonster, Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:38 (two weeks ago) link

That Steve Hoffman forum link is gold, thanks for bringing that back to the front.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:52 (two weeks ago) link

I had that warehouse raves album on tape when it came out. Pretty thrilling material for a 14 year old

or something, Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:56 (two weeks ago) link

I think a bunch of the "Pure Trance" originals are on the cd singles, but I'm sure that Hoffman link has the details.

Mark G, Saturday, 2 January 2021 20:45 (two weeks ago) link

I've always been a huge fan of The Moody Boys vs KLF mix of "What Time is Love"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5GjXDAecHQ

Spencer Chow, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:44 (one week ago) link

That 12" was the only time the Mac-less Echo and the Bunnymen made the charts

Mark G, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:18 (one week ago) link

So, when's the next episode?

Clearly not weekly, so perhaps monthly?

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 08:19 (three days ago) link


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