What is the best song about Heroin?

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Neil Young - The Needle and the Damage Done?

New York Dolls - Chinese Rocks?

John Prine - Sam Stone?

maybe 1000 others?

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Paul Westerberg - "Black Eyed Susan"

The Rolling Stones - "Monkey"

Versus - "Silver Vein"

maybe 10000 others?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link

"intersect" by the glory box

vacuum cleaner (electricsound), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Velvet Underground to thread

Voodoo Child, Monday, 17 October 2005 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Superpitcher's "Heroin" might have no words, but the melody is so addictive it will keep you coming back for more.

Jena (JenaP), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

john lennon - cold turkey

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I think in terms of sheer numbers, Neil gives the VU some competition. After all, the "Tonight's the Night" is basically a heroin concept album.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Alice in Chains to thread

Voodoo Child, Monday, 17 October 2005 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, most real songs are about heroin in one way or another. HORSE - CRANK - JIVE - SMACK -JUNK - SHAG - DOPE
You can even spell it by its chemical name: diacetylmorphine. It doesn't matter which way you spell it, it still means HEROIN and good related music.

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Voodoo Child, Monday, 17 October 2005 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

James Brown, "King Heroin"

Archie Shepp, "Scag"

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Rolling Stones - Sister Morphine (Well, if we're going for any opium derivative)

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Quite a number of rappers have boasted about being "dope like hare-on" although I can't think of any rap songs that are about it - lots of crack and weed songs, though.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Royal Trux - "Blood Flowers"

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Ancillary question: Best song created under the influence of heroin?

js (honestengine), Monday, 17 October 2005 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link

"There She Goes" is widely perceived as being about junk, no? That's my pick.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 17 October 2005 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link

"There She Goes" is widely perceived as being about junk, no? That's my pick.

I know a La's fanantic and he sent me a home demo of it from 1986. Did Mavers have a problem then?

Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 17 October 2005 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Rufus Thomas - "Walking the Dog"

nickn (nickn), Monday, 17 October 2005 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Where did that story get started? I got called on it, having seen There She Goes in a commercial (for something random) and mentioning that I thought it was about heroin, but my girlfriend didn't believe me and I couldn't turn up anything definitive...

js (honestengine), Monday, 17 October 2005 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link

What about "Under the Bridge" by the Chili Peppers? That's about when they used to go and score smack under a bridge, well obv. under a bridge because that's kind of self-explanatory.

I say if *you* want to interpret a song as being about heroin, then that is indeed what the song is about. Ergo There She Goes is. (Besides some of the lyrics seem pretty clear like "there she goes again/pulsing through my veins," only heroin is personified as a girl to camouflage the obvious drugs reference, so not so great camo work after all).

salexander / sophie (salexander), Monday, 17 October 2005 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I think in terms of sheer numbers, Neil gives the VU some competition. After all, the "Tonight's the Night" is basically a heroin concept album.

...which he sang stone drunk.

M. V. (M.V.), Monday, 17 October 2005 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

CLIFF - wired for sound

in the demo of that song it was "wired for brown" because you see that was the slang for injecting heroin

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Monday, 17 October 2005 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree with the Velvet Underground (obvious choice) and pretty much anything off Alice in Chains Dirt.


I always sorta regarded the Cowboy Junkies song "sweet jane" as a heroin song, but don't know... maybe its the junkie in their name.. but it seems pretty high.

also, the whole f'ing Trainspotter's Soundtrack... don't forget that.

E. Normis, Monday, 17 October 2005 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Never!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link

"Needle in the Hay" by Elliott Smith.

shanecavanaugh (shanecavanaugh), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The Only Ones-Another Girl, Another Planet


I always flirt with death
I could kill, but I don't care about it
I can face your threats
Stand up tall and scream and shout about it

I think I'm on another world with you
I'm on another planet with you

You always get under my skin
I don't find it irritating
You always play to win
I don't need rehabilitating

Another girl, another planet
Another girl, another planet

Space travels in my blood
And there ain't nothing I can do about it
Long journeys wear me out
Oh God we won't live without it

Another girl is loving you now
Another planet, forever holding you down
Another planet

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Isn't Perfect day about heroin? Or some other drug? Or about how great the BBC is? I can't remember. Anyway it's a great song (the original not the terrible BBC version with Heather Small...arrrgghhhh).

And what about Golden Brown? That's one of the best things The Stranglers ever did.

Ned T. Rifle, Monday, 17 October 2005 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link

YES YES YES Perfect Day is an excellent song. I heart Lou Reed. Maybe it was "Heroin" redux but a better song all around.

salexander / sophie (salexander), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"MMbop"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I always sorta regarded the Cowboy Junkies song "sweet jane" as a heroin song, but don't know... maybe its the junkie in their name.. but it seems pretty high.

You know that song is a VU cover, right?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Love-signed d.c.

Curtis Mayfield-stone junkie.

Ellis, Monday, 17 October 2005 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link

"Needle in the Hay" by Elliott Smith.

OTM. I'm not the biggest ES fan in the world but that song is tremendous. The way he sings the last word is a supreme example of how to express incredible rage and bitterness, quietly.

xero (xero), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:03 (fourteen years ago) link

The last word of the last verse, I mean -- there's another chorus after it.

xero (xero), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:06 (fourteen years ago) link

dan monaghan, "searching harlem for heroin"

sibsi (sibsi), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:06 (fourteen years ago) link

the kids from grange hill - "just say no"

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i never thought of perfect day as a heroin song!?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

as Tom said elsewhere the other day, it is 10 trillion times more boring a song if you read it as being about heroin

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:38 (fourteen years ago) link

no way! it is perfect as a song about unrequited love.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:43 (fourteen years ago) link

exactly - so we agree

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Golden Brown seconded.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed, but the "Trainspotting" music dudes certainly interpreted it as a stoner song as it's the music in the *overdose* scene. Songs don't have to have just one meaning; they can be what you want them to be. Sorry that sounds all very postmodern, but it's an old-fashioned concept really. Aren't songs like poetry anyway, the meanings are kind of slippery and abstract.

salexander / sophie (salexander), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, to the extent that it can all be read as "about heroin," the entire oeuvre of Spacemen 3.

xero (xero), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link

xero OTM!

esp.

"Call The Doctor"
"Walkin' With Jesus"

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Why is it more boring if it's about heroin, more boring than being about unrequited love?

It's also, of course, an ode to sangria...

Ned, Monday, 17 October 2005 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

U2--Bad

But it's about a junkie, not the drug itself

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"She's Like A Shot (In The Arm)" - Cop Shoot Cop

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Gun Club - "She's Like Heroin To Me"
Patti Smith - "We're Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together"

nickn (nickn), Monday, 17 October 2005 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Patti Smith - "We're Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together"

You probably know that's a VU/Lou Reed song -- tere's a version on 1969 and one on Street Hassle, and maybe one or two other places too. None of those have a rap about how "the blackest thing in Harlem is white," though.

xero (xero), Monday, 17 October 2005 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

shaddap your face by joe dolce

cake (cake), Monday, 17 October 2005 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Spacemen 3 came up, but most of Spiritualized pre-Amazing Grace too, especially "Cop Shoot Cop."

mike powell (mike powell), Monday, 17 October 2005 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

xp- Argh, I meant Let it Come Down.

mike powell (mike powell), Monday, 17 October 2005 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Butthole Surfers - Mexican Caravan

Sweat Loaf (Sweat Loaf), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

The Only Ones, Another Girl, Another Planet

... and about half of their other songs too

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:45 (fourteen years ago) link

"We're Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together"

This isn't about heroin.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Love, Your Friend and Mine (Neil's Song)

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:51 (fourteen years ago) link

This isn't about heroin.

True. Patti Smith's cover of it was, though.

xero (xero), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Or at least it made reference to heroin. On further consideration I think the mention is too brief, oblique, and incidental to warrant describing her version as being "about heroin," after all.

xero (xero), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Laid Back - "White Horse"

ewmy, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link

"Running to Stand Still" - u2
"Mr. Brownstone" - GNR

Jeff Goodwin (White Dolemite), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Not a song, but...

Only Stupid Bastards use Heroin - New Model Army

Niall, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Mudhoney's "In The Blood" seems to be about a junkie:

You swear you still got the fire
But when I touch you
You feel so cold
Your as hollow as your burned out eyes
Nothing left
Nowhere to go

Nowhere
Nowhere
Nowhere
You got nowhere to go

Desire burns you from the inside out
How does it feel
Not to feel?
I can't stand it when your around
Reminding me how you used to be
Real

You used to be
You used to be
You used to be
You used to be real

In the blood, it gets in the blood
In the blood, it gets in the blood
In the blood, it gets in the blood
In the blood, it gets in the blood

Woh, oh, oh, oh
Woh, oh, oh, oh
Woh, oh, oh, oh
Woh, oh, oh
It gets in the blood

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe some of you aren't aware that "there she goes" by the la's (who???) was originally by sixpence none the richer and is about jesus not some nasty old drug!

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

The worst song about heroin was Eagle-Eye Cherry's "Shooting Up in Vain", which wasn't even as good as its title.

Erik The Mainer (EZSnappin), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd probably say "Things'll Never Be The Same" by Spacemen 3

Never was one of my favourites of theirs though.

Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link

BERT JANSCH - NEEDLE OF DEATH

jared, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
"There she goes" was NOT originally by sixpence none the richer... La's made that song before sixpence existed. . .

Spork, Sunday, 12 March 2006 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Black Sabbath - "Hand of Doom" deserves a mention. "Mr Brownstone" is really good too.

Sundar (sundar), Sunday, 12 March 2006 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Wilco's "shot in the arm"'s about heroin?!

sam the man, Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link

"Mutiny in Heaven", der Birfday Party. That song actually scared me the first time I heard it. Can't believe it hasn't made it into this thread.

bendy (bendy), Sunday, 12 March 2006 07:49 (fourteen years ago) link

steely dan 'time out of mind'

dave q (listerine), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Not the best but the lyric "Shoot it up and go for a ride" comes to mind after Pink Floyd or Spacemen 3/Spiritualized so.

'I Never Want An Easy Life If Me and He Were Ever to Get There'

BeeOK (boo radley), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link

"Mutiny in Heaven", der Birfday Party. That song actually scared me the first time I heard it. Can't believe it hasn't made it into this thread. "

Also "Pleasure avalanche" by the BP, from the same ep.

sam the man, Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:52 (fourteen years ago) link

My vote for "The Needle And The Damage Done" mainly because of the message of the lyrics.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 12 March 2006 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link

NINA HAGEN Y'ALL

"Smack Jack" rules my world, one of the scariest drug songs ever.

sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
All of LAMF
One Track Mind
Chinese Rocks
Pirate love
It's not Enough
Get off the Phone...
everyone a love song to heroin

sonofstan (sonofstan), Friday, 14 July 2006 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"No X-Mas for John Quays"

also, whenever i hear the psyfurs' talk talk talk anymore, kinda seems like a cocaine concept album ... lyrically and energy-arc-wise, anyhow

literalisp (literalisp), Friday, 14 July 2006 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

and also, whether or not it is, you can pretty much read "china girl" as a heroin song.

literalisp (literalisp), Friday, 14 July 2006 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

also Ray Charles' 'you don't know me' seems to reek of heroin, though its not easy top pin down why

sonofstan (sonofstan), Friday, 14 July 2006 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

"I Think I'm In Love" by Spiritualized all the way.

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Friday, 14 July 2006 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

"fuck me in the ass" by I Wish I Was Dead

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Saturday, 15 July 2006 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Slow Death

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Saturday, 15 July 2006 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Talk Talk 'I Believe In You'

probably the most tender song about herion i've ever heard..

Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Saturday, 15 July 2006 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Velvet Underground's "Sister Ray" played lound made me feel like I was in that dizzy room of death

'Im searching for my mainline
I said I couldnt hit it sideways'

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Saturday, 15 July 2006 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread needs a mention of the funeralSam Stone by John Prine, more of a depiction of the descent into addiction, than the drug itself.

Ben Dot (1977), Saturday, 15 July 2006 09:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"Givin' Up" by The Darkness is the greatest smack party anthem of all time.

More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 July 2006 10:14 (fourteen years ago) link

> This thread needs a mention of the funeralSam Stone by John Prine, more of a depiction of the descent into addiction, than the drug itself.

Read header plzkthxbye.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

But uh...hey! Thanks for the video!

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

"When it Hits My Blood" by John Vanderslice

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Saturday, 15 July 2006 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

They're called the Velvet Underground, and this case has been closed for nearly 40 years. Shame on you all!

I Don't Believe in Bacteria (Bimble...), Sunday, 16 July 2006 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Keith Don't Go by Nils Lofgren

vacasmagras (vacasmagras), Sunday, 16 July 2006 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

"Keith Don't Go" Seconded
"golden brown" thirded
"White Lightning" by Silkworm? Probably about LSD, but a great song nonetheless..."watch the lightning for all your cues"

J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Now and forever - "Golden Brown" by The Stranglers

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"They're called the Velvet Underground, and this case has been closed for nearly 40 years. Shame on you all!"

OTM. This thread is useless.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing quite like people who closed their ears nearly 40 years ago posting on a music board.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Monday, 17 July 2006 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link


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