Orbital - Classic or Dud?

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Matt DC, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i liked the mutations ep and the tune in mortal combat - they ok

a-33, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Are we here? I'm over there, probably saying Classic.

Jeff W, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh God, Classic, by so far it's not funny. The last LP was a bit rubbish, but the previous ones are all brilliant, In Sides and Brown especially.

Nick Southall, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

A magnificent duo who've made a string of good or great records. I don't go a month without listening to something of theirs.

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

TOTAL CLASSIC. Some of the largest techno influences: Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Richard James (aka Aphex Twin) and Orbital.

p & p are real cool in person, too.

christopher, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
Heard something new from Paul Hartnoll tonight on Zane Lowe, ethereal and crunchy, very Orbitalesque (ish?), would fit nicely on Snivilization. Apparently there's going to be a new Orbital album soon, could be a disaster but I'm quite stoked about this.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

If there is one dance/electronica act that is undeniably classic, then Orbital is it. "In Sides" is the best album of the entire genre.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 23 October 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought they broke up after Blue in '04. Gotta link for any info on a new album?

turkey (turkey), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Loopz the official Orbital site has a bit on it but info is very, very sketchy.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

They definitely did break up. I hope if they're bringing out a new album it's better than the last couple which were really disappointing. However i'm really excited about hearing it!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Those recent ones kind of suggested they had lost it, so I don't think breaking up was the stupidest thing to do at the time.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

just in today - new paul hartnoll 12" - dec 4th - on kids label

http://www.kidsthelabel.co.uk

tracks : patchwork guilt/gloopy

and both are very classical orbital styled tracks ..

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i thuoght they split up!?

wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link

never mind.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose Paul Hartnoll didn't split up.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:34 (seventeen years ago) link

amoebas can split themselves

latebloomer: Veteran of the Mai Tai Massacre (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, so is this like the shortest Orbital thread on ILM or what?

Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:23 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
i have seen the light and it is titled 'middle of nowhere'. only took eight years.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahahaha! Better late than never! (Now go immerse yrself in In Sides and Snivilization.)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

He might mean the Hanson one.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

hurrah for MoN which is > Snivilisation > Insides. today.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

really? should i try MoN? i'm still totally sold on brown.

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahahaha! Better late than never! (Now go immerse yrself in In Sides and Snivilization.)

-- HI DERE, Wednesday, May 2, 2007 4:53 PM (16 minutes ago)


oh i've been all over those forever! it was liking 'in sides' so much that left me underwhelmed by 'middle of nowhere'. but i'm over that now.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The true test is when you go "Wait, there's actually some really awesome stuff on The Altogether!"

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

never got that, so will update in 2015

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"Wait, there's actually some really awesome stuff on The Altogether!

or even the last album (which i never listen to)

the first three tracks on MON are so great. still dislike 'Style'.

In Sides would probably win an Orbital albums Poll, don't think it's worth doing one. An Orbital non-singles tracks poll might be more fun.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

meanwhile i heard the first minute or so of 'Frenetic' the other day for the first time and finally understood why that track doesn't get much love. it really sucks until the 'Kinetic' hook comes in properly.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

insides ftw

sleep, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

and of course halcyon + on + on

sleep, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I will ever get sick of listening to "Way Out/Spare Parts Express". Middle of Nowhere could be just those two tracks and I would barely notice. (OK, "Nothing Left" is pretty nice too.) As time goes on, it gets more and more cemented as my favorite Orbital song (I think of it as one song, don't make me split it up!).

Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

ditto to vinnie. mostly. insides is really not all that.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I will ever get sick of listening to "Way Out/Spare Parts Express". Middle of Nowhere could be just those two tracks and I would barely notice.

this is where i've been for all these years... but then i reached further in.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

'in sides' opening and closing tracks still godhead.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

so much so that they sampled most of them on MoN.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Pop Will Eat Itself were sampling their previous albums when Hartnolls wuz nipXoRs

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

KLF sampled the same two songs throughout their entire career but HELL THEY WERE THE KLF!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i wonder why they didn't just get Alison G to sing 'Autumn'. i suppose Pooka or whatever they were called brought a slightly different quality to it - more 'waily'. the opening lines of the song are wonderfully sinister.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

insides is really not all that.

STONE THE INDFIDEL

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

this is where i've been for all these years... but then i reached further in.

I've tried, but it's been tough. I know I've heard the whole thing at least ten times by now, and I've had it for years. But putting "Way Out/Spare Parts Express" first kills the album for me. It's just such a perfect song, nothing else on the album really compares after listening to it. And I never want to not listen to it when I pull out the album!

I'm starting to think my relationship with this song is unhealthy.

Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

srsly d00d. the box, ace, the rest, fnuh. altogether aside, probly my least listened to orbital album. maybe i'll have a relisten.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

"Adnan's" is possibly my favorite thing they've ever done. I'm not super invested in "Dwr Budr" but everything else on that album is essential listening for me.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

the box, ace, the rest, fnuh.

dude 'The Girl With The Sun In Her Head' surely. 'P.E.T.R.O.L.' kicks bottoms. 'Dwr Budr' is as sinister, melancholy and lush as anything they've done, 'Adnans' too for that matter. i never used to like it as much as the second album and thought the highs on it were no greater than the high on 'Sniv'...perhaps I still don't but it really is a great piece of work as a whole.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i've seen Orbital only 4 times ever, all at festivals (in 97, 99, 02 and 04).

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

but as i've said elsewhere on ILM if Orbital were to ever come back and do one of those 'perform the entire album from start to finish' gigs, I would now want it to be InSides.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

'OUT THERE SOMEWHERE' FFS PEOPLE

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Saw Orbital at the Royal Albert Hall ('96?) and that remains one of the most incredible gigs I've ever witnessed in my life.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, i WILL have a relisten. but it's still MoN all the way for me.

i think i saw orbital 7 times! five times at glasto (ISTR the same as steve, with added sometime around 1994, though 02 i was not into it so much for some reason), once at Brixton wossname, and once at Hammersmith Palais (though i was super grumpy from ticket shananigans, and it was the Altogether tour meh-ness)

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The first couple of minutes of Dwr Bdr are amazing and spine-tingling. In fact the second half of The Box is probably the bit I was most tempted to skip last time I listened to InSides, maybe I've just heard too much.

The first three tracks on MoN are incredible but I remember thinking at the time the album sagged hugely after that. It's improved with age if anything, possibly because around 2004 loads of dance music sounded like MoN (Nothing Left in particular). I Don't Know You People is still a bit crap though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

(this sounds like a record for me - i.e. the act i've seen the most live. i'd have to count times i've seen New Order...)

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

vinyl reissues finally happening:

https://orbital.tmstor.es/#main_menu

so far it's just Green but they say the rest are coming. track list looks different...what is "Macro Head"??

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 14:35 (five months ago) link

Macro Head was on the original vinyl release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj42b9M1fXI

groovypanda, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 18:38 (five months ago) link

oh god the screaming!!!

actually come to think of it I haven't heard "Steel Cube Idolatry" or "High Rise" either, though I know they were on the UK release. glad to see "Belfast" is at the end...for whatever reason the US version puts it as track #1, which is very bizarre

wonder if future reissues are gonna have bonuses too - imagine a 4xLP In Sides with full versions of The Box & the Times Fly EP, plus "The Saint" ? oh hell yeah

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 18:50 (five months ago) link

looks like the Green/Brown show is coming to Chicago? I might have to make the drive for that, dunno how many chances I'm gonna get to see them

frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:08 (five months ago) link

Only just found out they're including Brown and delighted having already a ticket for the London show

nashwan, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:13 (five months ago) link

Oof gotta shell out for this. Can't remember the last time they were here and don't know when they'll be back again.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Saturday, 27 January 2024 02:00 (five months ago) link

wet like he's Book

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 27 January 2024 02:01 (five months ago) link

I couldn't really afford the Bristol ticket but once I saw Brown was included that was it.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 27 January 2024 04:40 (five months ago) link

but... there's only one "Green & Brown set" on this list? Everything else is still the Green tour?

https://orbitalofficial.com/live/

StanM, Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:21 (five months ago) link

The UK dates are all Green/Brown.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:39 (five months ago) link

No chance I'm gonna get to see them this tour but I might be the rare Orbital fan who wouldn't be excited at all to see them do Green. Brown on the other hand...

Vinnie, Saturday, 27 January 2024 18:34 (five months ago) link

I'd take a Snivilisation show for its 30th anniversary while we're at it.

nashwan, Saturday, 27 January 2024 19:21 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

okay who's going to the Chicago show? apparently it's not gonna be a Green/Brown show which is fine by me, they have killer tracks throughout their catalogue

frogbs, Monday, 19 February 2024 19:02 (four months ago) link

I am in for Chicago! Looking forward to it.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Monday, 19 February 2024 19:38 (four months ago) link

Just noticed that the remastered version of the Chime 12" is out today on streaming services

Hope that means we'll start to see their other singles appearing soon, as was mentioned in that interview a couple of years ago

groovypanda, Friday, 23 February 2024 18:29 (four months ago) link

this one? that was only last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TXmdXF1FIY

StanM, Friday, 23 February 2024 19:29 (four months ago) link

No, it was from an interview back in 2021 when they were talking about the new deal they'd signed

groovypanda, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:24 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Remastered Green album out today. 6 hours (!) across 5 discs!

Looking forward to digging in

groovypanda, Friday, 19 April 2024 05:58 (two months ago) link

I was sad about how long I was going to have to wait for my CDs to show up until I realized this was likely on streaming platforms as well

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 19 April 2024 14:48 (two months ago) link

Ok. How the fuck have I never heard this Belfast/Wasted track before!?

groovypanda, Friday, 19 April 2024 15:10 (two months ago) link

the Best Of comp of the anthology series it came from was named after it!

bae (sic), Friday, 19 April 2024 15:36 (two months ago) link

Yeah saw that. Have still got.all the Trance Europe Express CDs but think I only had the first Volume one

groovypanda, Friday, 19 April 2024 15:37 (two months ago) link

is there a standalone vinyl release for this?

frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:29 (two months ago) link

double vinyl yes

https://orbital.tmstor.es/

StanM, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:31 (two months ago) link

oh cool, wonder if US distributors will carry this, as shipping to America is probably gonna be as much as the album itself

wonder if the rest of the catalogue is getting this kind of treatment, I mean imagine a 4xLP In Sides with Times Fly and The Saint and the full version of The Box. I'd buy that for a dollar.

frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:33 (two months ago) link

Ok. How the fuck have I never heard this Belfast/Wasted track before!?

Ha, I was just thinking about it randomly the other day. (Got the Volume CDs as they came out, as much as I could.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:30 (two months ago) link

Remastered Green album out today. 6 hours (!) across 5 discs!

where are you seeing 5 disks? there are 4 CD and 4 LP editions.

and now they are offering "Green Album Expanded Digital Download" for £34.99 which basically adds 12 remixes, and i've got an email offering £5 off (after spending over a hundred on the CD/LP editions), while you can get the exact same thing on bandcamp for €20.

i'm totally okay with supporting orbital, but with the limited drops / shipping cost to canada and this kind of "promotions" it really feels like a cash grab.

scanner darkly, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:56 (two months ago) link

As you've mentioned the Bandcamp option:

https://orbitalofficial.bandcamp.com/album/orbital-the-green-album-expanded

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:05 (two months ago) link

Performance of those first two albums last night in London as great as you'd expect (one v minor criticism would be perhaps it was a bit too by the book at times where you might expect a little longer versions of 'Chime', 'Impact' and 'Belfast' otherwise). A few of the Brown tracks ('Impact', 'Remind' and 'Halcyon' really seemed to have extra layers or textures in them I picked up on anew). Really enjoyed hearing some particular tracks for my first time ever live ('Midnight', 'Walk Now', 'Monday'). 'Satan' visuals in the encore threw in some shots of Liz Truss and Theresa May for lols and right at the end they did get particularly animated about needing a revolution.

nashwan, Sunday, 28 April 2024 22:33 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Remastered (and expanded) version of the III EP out today

groovypanda, Friday, 7 June 2024 06:27 (one month ago) link

have they changed their mind? I can't seem to find it & their site's been down all day

StanM, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:11 (one month ago) link

https://orbitalband.lnk.to/midnightLEDIB

groovypanda, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link

Oh wait, hang on that's Midnight

https://open.spotify.com/album/04NcxdGPhPYbP29pWCqEzC?si=fU9r4U0FSjW3ErhrouXHQA

groovypanda, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:06 (one month ago) link

Visible for me but these slow chronological rollouts damn...still looking forward to seeing finally Times Fly and the Satan Live EPs.

nashwan, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link

ooooh! thanks for the links

StanM, Friday, 7 June 2024 17:32 (one month ago) link

Finally saw them live in April after 28 years, almost to the day since I bought In Sides. They were great. Green was good but Brown was fucking magnificent.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:44 (one month ago) link

digging through the remasters to remake / update my own "digital box set"...

I think the only notable exclusion is the remix of Open Mind from Funky Alternatives Six?

(notable especially because they did include various multiple radio edits and a 1999 Sasha remix)

...unless the "Chime (edit)" is actually an edit, and not a relabelling of the original 7" re-recording? Someone with better-tuned ears might confirm this.

and it's curious that they included demos The Other One and Open Mind Jam but not the Belfast Original Jam that Paul soundclouded alongside The Other One

BUT here's a fun discovery: any version of Son Of Chime was previously only available on an issue of Live At The Brain (1990)... but five years ago the bloke who ran The Brain club put out another compilation on Mixmag -- and included the same live recording of Son Of Chime, but secretly expanded to include Chime at the start as well.

bae (sic), Sunday, 16 June 2024 20:00 (three weeks ago) link

...unless the "Chime (edit)" is actually an edit, and not a relabelling of the original 7" re-recording? Someone with better-tuned ears might confirm this.

The Chime 7" was credited as an edit on original release, and the waveforms look the same (except WAY more compressed/boosted on this version than the Work master, and sped up by 3 seconds) so this one's in the clear.

2024 remaster highlighted at bottom, 2002 Work master above, a little bit of the 1990 CD5 at top.
https://i.ibb.co/BnLDwx9/chimes.jpg

bae (sic), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:21 (three weeks ago) link

Belfast Original Jam that Paul soundclouded

and blogged about! The Other One was even on the same demo tape that they left with David Holmer, which led to (eventually) both tracks' names.

in more historical excavation, they have done a new remix of Cafe del Mar...

bae (sic), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 00:59 (three weeks ago) link

i seem to recall seeing somewhere they never used compression in their production.. not surprising they did it for the remasters but a bit disappointing

scanner darkly, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 01:34 (three weeks ago) link

Opening their Glastonbury set with Deeper with Tilda Swinton reading the vocals lol

groovypanda, Saturday, 29 June 2024 20:23 (one week ago) link

And actual Mel C joining them for 'Spicy' :o

nashwan, Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:12 (one week ago) link

that set sounds amazing hope they recorded it

frogbs, Sunday, 30 June 2024 03:21 (one week ago) link

the… broadcaster that screened it?

bae (sic), Sunday, 30 June 2024 08:02 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_c3iUio-5I

StanM, Sunday, 30 June 2024 16:07 (one week ago) link

That was a great set.

ledge, Monday, 1 July 2024 07:42 (one week ago) link

fly tilda swinton in to do the monologue and then there's a fucking flag with a dog on it 15ft in front of her, between her and the main camera.

koogs, Monday, 1 July 2024 10:44 (one week ago) link

consider a fish

StanM, Monday, 1 July 2024 16:28 (one week ago) link

this is cool as shit. god bless 'em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_c3iUio-5I

frogbs, Monday, 1 July 2024 17:03 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8baH94limCk

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 17:18 (one week ago) link


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