Orbital - Classic or Dud?

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Matt DC, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

i liked the mutations ep and the tune in mortal combat - they ok

a-33, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Are we here? I'm over there, probably saying Classic.

Jeff W, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh God, Classic, by so far it's not funny. The last LP was a bit rubbish, but the previous ones are all brilliant, In Sides and Brown especially.

Nick Southall, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

A magnificent duo who've made a string of good or great records. I don't go a month without listening to something of theirs.

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

TOTAL CLASSIC. Some of the largest techno influences: Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Richard James (aka Aphex Twin) and Orbital.

p & p are real cool in person, too.

christopher, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...
Heard something new from Paul Hartnoll tonight on Zane Lowe, ethereal and crunchy, very Orbitalesque (ish?), would fit nicely on Snivilization. Apparently there's going to be a new Orbital album soon, could be a disaster but I'm quite stoked about this.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

If there is one dance/electronica act that is undeniably classic, then Orbital is it. "In Sides" is the best album of the entire genre.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 23 October 2006 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought they broke up after Blue in '04. Gotta link for any info on a new album?

turkey (turkey), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Loopz the official Orbital site has a bit on it but info is very, very sketchy.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

They definitely did break up. I hope if they're bringing out a new album it's better than the last couple which were really disappointing. However i'm really excited about hearing it!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Those recent ones kind of suggested they had lost it, so I don't think breaking up was the stupidest thing to do at the time.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

just in today - new paul hartnoll 12" - dec 4th - on kids label

http://www.kidsthelabel.co.uk

tracks : patchwork guilt/gloopy

and both are very classical orbital styled tracks ..

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i thuoght they split up!?

wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link

never mind.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I suppose Paul Hartnoll didn't split up.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link

amoebas can split themselves

latebloomer: Veteran of the Mai Tai Massacre (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, so is this like the shortest Orbital thread on ILM or what?

Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...
i have seen the light and it is titled 'middle of nowhere'. only took eight years.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahahaha! Better late than never! (Now go immerse yrself in In Sides and Snivilization.)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

He might mean the Hanson one.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

hurrah for MoN which is > Snivilisation > Insides. today.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link

really? should i try MoN? i'm still totally sold on brown.

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahahaha! Better late than never! (Now go immerse yrself in In Sides and Snivilization.)

-- HI DERE, Wednesday, May 2, 2007 4:53 PM (16 minutes ago)


oh i've been all over those forever! it was liking 'in sides' so much that left me underwhelmed by 'middle of nowhere'. but i'm over that now.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

The true test is when you go "Wait, there's actually some really awesome stuff on The Altogether!"

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

never got that, so will update in 2015

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

"Wait, there's actually some really awesome stuff on The Altogether!

or even the last album (which i never listen to)

the first three tracks on MON are so great. still dislike 'Style'.

In Sides would probably win an Orbital albums Poll, don't think it's worth doing one. An Orbital non-singles tracks poll might be more fun.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

meanwhile i heard the first minute or so of 'Frenetic' the other day for the first time and finally understood why that track doesn't get much love. it really sucks until the 'Kinetic' hook comes in properly.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

insides ftw

sleep, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

and of course halcyon + on + on

sleep, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think I will ever get sick of listening to "Way Out/Spare Parts Express". Middle of Nowhere could be just those two tracks and I would barely notice. (OK, "Nothing Left" is pretty nice too.) As time goes on, it gets more and more cemented as my favorite Orbital song (I think of it as one song, don't make me split it up!).

Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

ditto to vinnie. mostly. insides is really not all that.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think I will ever get sick of listening to "Way Out/Spare Parts Express". Middle of Nowhere could be just those two tracks and I would barely notice.

this is where i've been for all these years... but then i reached further in.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

'in sides' opening and closing tracks still godhead.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

so much so that they sampled most of them on MoN.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Pop Will Eat Itself were sampling their previous albums when Hartnolls wuz nipXoRs

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

KLF sampled the same two songs throughout their entire career but HELL THEY WERE THE KLF!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i wonder why they didn't just get Alison G to sing 'Autumn'. i suppose Pooka or whatever they were called brought a slightly different quality to it - more 'waily'. the opening lines of the song are wonderfully sinister.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

insides is really not all that.

STONE THE INDFIDEL

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

this is where i've been for all these years... but then i reached further in.

I've tried, but it's been tough. I know I've heard the whole thing at least ten times by now, and I've had it for years. But putting "Way Out/Spare Parts Express" first kills the album for me. It's just such a perfect song, nothing else on the album really compares after listening to it. And I never want to not listen to it when I pull out the album!

I'm starting to think my relationship with this song is unhealthy.

Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly d00d. the box, ace, the rest, fnuh. altogether aside, probly my least listened to orbital album. maybe i'll have a relisten.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"Adnan's" is possibly my favorite thing they've ever done. I'm not super invested in "Dwr Budr" but everything else on that album is essential listening for me.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

the box, ace, the rest, fnuh.

dude 'The Girl With The Sun In Her Head' surely. 'P.E.T.R.O.L.' kicks bottoms. 'Dwr Budr' is as sinister, melancholy and lush as anything they've done, 'Adnans' too for that matter. i never used to like it as much as the second album and thought the highs on it were no greater than the high on 'Sniv'...perhaps I still don't but it really is a great piece of work as a whole.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i've seen Orbital only 4 times ever, all at festivals (in 97, 99, 02 and 04).

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

but as i've said elsewhere on ILM if Orbital were to ever come back and do one of those 'perform the entire album from start to finish' gigs, I would now want it to be InSides.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

'OUT THERE SOMEWHERE' FFS PEOPLE

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Saw Orbital at the Royal Albert Hall ('96?) and that remains one of the most incredible gigs I've ever witnessed in my life.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, i WILL have a relisten. but it's still MoN all the way for me.

i think i saw orbital 7 times! five times at glasto (ISTR the same as steve, with added sometime around 1994, though 02 i was not into it so much for some reason), once at Brixton wossname, and once at Hammersmith Palais (though i was super grumpy from ticket shananigans, and it was the Altogether tour meh-ness)

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

The first couple of minutes of Dwr Bdr are amazing and spine-tingling. In fact the second half of The Box is probably the bit I was most tempted to skip last time I listened to InSides, maybe I've just heard too much.

The first three tracks on MoN are incredible but I remember thinking at the time the album sagged hugely after that. It's improved with age if anything, possibly because around 2004 loads of dance music sounded like MoN (Nothing Left in particular). I Don't Know You People is still a bit crap though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

(this sounds like a record for me - i.e. the act i've seen the most live. i'd have to count times i've seen New Order...)

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone into that vibe may wanna check this out from my buddy George Clanton. he basically remixed one of his own tunes into Opus III with some version of the Halycon bass line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb4QFKqUKVs

frogbs, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:53 (one year ago) link

here's the 50-80 year old members of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop joining Orbital live to play the Dr Who theme in 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqlK-bK8P2M

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 14 May 2021 22:12 (one year ago) link

i would do a poll

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 May 2021 22:33 (one year ago) link

The thing I always dug about Orbital's sound is that it was the next step in many ways of what the Germans were doing in the 70s with all that arpeggiation and weaving it in and out. Not to get all Geir, but Orbital really does have a good touch on melody and a big reason their music has hung on.

earlnash, Sunday, 16 May 2021 00:10 (one year ago) link

Hop onto the “next poll” thread and plant yr flag forks! Open voting tomorrow, the momentum is there

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 16 May 2021 00:26 (one year ago) link

halcyon and poll and poll

scanner darkly, Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:03 (one year ago) link

I meant i would vote! I just moved but I'd be happy to pick this up when things get quiet.
Never understood the ILM poll queue, my inclination would be to just start one.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:25 (one year ago) link

The queue is so that only one major ballot poll is running at once, it’s just that nobody in the queue is leaping to start one atm (or generally these days.)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:05 (one year ago) link

i don't have the knowledge to describe this stuff but the wobbly pitch bendy(?) stuff on that record is so emotive


yeah the emotional quality of e.g. the pitch bendy stuff on “out there somewhere pt 1” is so unusual to me, a knotty mix of wonder, fear, anticipation... “nostalgia for the future” or something. Idk it’s weird and captivating.

brimstead, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:33 (one year ago) link

hearing the voices bend like that on that OTS1 legitimately scared me when I first heard it, it was as though the 'human' element of Orbital's work was also getting sucked into a black hole

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:54 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB8BSA45rMQ

- October 2021 : Orbital 30 with pre-Chime & remixes
- February 2022 : new album

StanM, Saturday, 12 June 2021 17:58 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/orbital-tell-sde-of-archival-reissue-plans/

More about the new stuff and a fairly clear statement about forthcoming reissues.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 21:25 (ten months ago) link

Cool, was getting worried about them given that the 30th anniversary thing was supposed to come out 2 years ago and then they just…didn’t mention it again

Hoping these reissues are gonna be released in the US, they’re so long overdue

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 22:13 (ten months ago) link

the hartnoll quarantine stuff is... something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nocnu67zwdY

think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:34 (ten months ago) link

extremely into this actually

lukas, Saturday, 18 September 2021 01:02 (ten months ago) link

it has this intimacy to it, and it does a really good job of portraying the constricted mental state the pandemic puts you in, but it does it all in a light playful way. totally what i needed tonight.

lukas, Saturday, 18 September 2021 01:08 (ten months ago) link

there's a track called Secret Hairdresser, A+

lukas, Saturday, 18 September 2021 01:11 (ten months ago) link

and i mean, only appropriate that it outstays its welcome a bit

lukas, Saturday, 18 September 2021 01:23 (ten months ago) link

i like them alot better than the orb but again i mostly their singles but they have alot of good b sides too!

xzanfar, Saturday, 18 September 2021 01:58 (ten months ago) link

The thing I always dug about Orbital's sound is that it was the next step in many ways of what the Germans were doing in the 70s with all that arpeggiation and weaving it in and out. Not to get all Geir, but Orbital really does have a good touch on melody and a big reason their music has hung on.
― earlnash, Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:10

It's funny, I know more people who prefer Orbital to latter period Autechre. But Orbital sound quite kitschy. I guess I'm firmly of the school that too much melody is the antithesis to funk, unless you're composing homophonically as opposed to in cordal polyphony.

RobbiePires, Saturday, 18 September 2021 03:59 (ten months ago) link

30 years today we released our first album! We will share some stories today on the Green album but please RT/reply with your favourite track + any fond memories you have.#green #orbital pic.twitter.com/S5oP9w8RNu

— Orbital (@orbitalband) September 30, 2021

groovypanda, Thursday, 30 September 2021 11:58 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

ANNA remixes of Belfast now out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH-N-0GWQcc

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 07:05 (nine months ago) link

Would happily listen to that for an hour.

namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 09:22 (nine months ago) link

four weeks pass...

𝕾𝖆𝖙𝖆𝖓 , 𝖜𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖓 𝖇𝖊𝖋𝖔𝖗𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖉𝖆𝖜𝖓 𝖔𝖋 𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖒𝖊.

𝕹𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖗 𝖕𝖑𝖆𝖞 𝖎𝖙 𝖇𝖆𝖈𝖐𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖉𝖘 𝖆𝖋𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝖒𝖎𝖉𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙.

Satan (30 Something Years Later Mix)https://t.co/gINIpgfvZ5 #Orbital #30something #Satan #Techno #IDM pic.twitter.com/EuLtbrX4tc

— Orbital (@orbitalband) December 8, 2021

groovypanda, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:18 (eight months ago) link

First Orbital tune I ever heard, good to see it still getting work done. This is a decent mix.

Ste, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 16:36 (eight months ago) link

yeah this is the version they've been playing live since 2017 at least. rules pretty hard

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:08 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

weird - the signed posters (including download of those shows) from 2017 & 2018 are not sold out?

https://liveherenow.co.uk/products/exclusive-2017-limited-edition-art-print-signed
https://liveherenow.co.uk/products/exclusive-signed-limited-edition-u-s-style-art-print-inc-download-of-the-2018-london-show

StanM, Saturday, 1 January 2022 18:54 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGfOoMVufgw

StanM, Friday, 7 January 2022 19:45 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Eli Brown remix of Chime out today but all a bit business texhno.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:52 (six months ago) link

three months pass...

i have the altogether dvd but i am wondering why they do not have a collection of all their videos on dvd yet still?!

xzanfar, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:54 (two months ago) link

Score for The Pentaverate (movie-cut-into-a-series for Netflix): https://orbitalsoundtrack.bandcamp.com/

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Sunday, 15 May 2022 22:24 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Not overly impressed with most of these 30 year remixes.

The ANNA ambient mix of Belfast was ace but most of the others just sound like phoned in business techno.

groovypanda, Thursday, 9 June 2022 09:27 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0019cc8

here's a mix showcasing a bunch of new tracks. seems like they've found their rave side again. there's a cover of Kraftwerk's "Numbers" and one track extensively samples "Wannabe" by the Spice Girls. everything is edited pretty tightly on this broadcast but if this is any indication the new album is gonna be a lot of fun

frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:53 (one week ago) link

listening to Thirty-Something now. not a bad way to spend 2.5+ hours but this band's constant focus on early material irks me. I think like 2/3rds of the running time is dedicated to the singles on the first 2 albums. outside of 3 minutes of "Where Is It Going?" all the new mixes are from the first 4 albums. they have plenty of quality material after that! oh well. the new single "Smiley" is pretty great at least.

frogbs, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:07 (one week ago) link

Nothing important about their output / legacy occurred after 1996. They are right to focus on that material since everything after has been poor retreads of previous ideas. Orbital stand to only weaken their legacy by continuing to put out music. Also, that stache is awful and I'm pretty sure one of the brothers is a drug addicted asshole with minimal talent. At least he comes off that way in interviews.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:21 (one week ago) link

^bad take

DJI, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:29 (one week ago) link

Wonky was great, and it was from 2012!

DJI, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:30 (one week ago) link

Wonky was great, and Middle of Nowhere and Blue Album even more so

"Tiny Foldable Cities" was a strong single from a few years ago. Rest of the album didn't quite live up to it though.

Will probably listen to 30 Something tonight. I like the concept and it was inevitable after two proper best-ofs already.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:35 (one week ago) link

I liked Wonky and Blue Album. Some songs on those albums anyway. I still think there was nothing new or exceptional in comparison to what came before those two. But hey, if you have a different opinion, that's great. Billions of opinions in the world, and mine is one of them.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:51 (one week ago) link

I could buy them being a legacy act after Middle of Nowhere, but that album is not merely great but important in the context of their career overall - “Spare Parts Express” and “Nothing Left” arguably form a pinnacle of certain aspects of their whole deal.

Tim F, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:57 (one week ago) link

ya for me Middle of Nowhere is their most exciting album, those first 3 tracks especially, what a rush

Altogether & Blue both have their moments. I agree they were pretty out of ideas by then. But Wonky was a real return to form. it's true that it doesn't really add much to their sound but I think it captures most of what's good about them in a relatively short period of time

Monsters Exist is fairly spotty - it occurred to me recently that this was probably supposed to follow the modernized Orbital approach of Wonky but they switched directions halfway through. I think the bonus tracks are the remnants of what the album originally was gonna be.

frogbs, Thursday, 4 August 2022 21:20 (one week ago) link

It's cool that Diversions is on Spotify but wish all of their 90s EPs were up esp. Radiccio, The Box three-parter and the Satan Live triple set. Some of the new remixes are alright e.g. Lone's TGWTSIHH

nashwan, Thursday, 4 August 2022 22:38 (one week ago) link

it took me years to really appreciate Middle of Nowhere and realize it's closer to In Sides than Altogether and the last great album they put out. it's like something changed. plenty of good tracks in follow up albums, sure, but something was gone. Monsters i can't even bring myself to listen to, and i tried to the point where i just started hating it.

Thirty-Something is nice but i wish they really got into their old catalogue instead of just the same tracks they play live each time.

does anybody else have issues with the last track on second CD skipping? i contacted the distributor and they sent me a replacement CD and it's ("like a cry for survival!" - lol this is playing as i'm typing this) it's got the same issue. oh well, there are 3 more versions of Belfast!

scanner darkly, Friday, 5 August 2022 03:09 (one week ago) link

I feel Middle of Nowhere was their last truly "great" album, but oddly enough the Don't Stop Me / The Gun Is Good single from 2010 is as good as anything they released in the early/mid 90's imho and it's crazy to me these two tracks dropped out of nowhere just sounding truly classic and nothing else they've dropped this century (weird to type that) comes close for me.

octobeard, Friday, 5 August 2022 03:18 (one week ago) link

Maybe it's my deep deference to Zardoz, but The Gun Is Good would be in my top 10 of Orbital tracks... seriously.

octobeard, Friday, 5 August 2022 03:22 (one week ago) link

Okay no - it's definitely the well placed Time Bandits sample too. Good lord that track slaps so much

octobeard, Friday, 5 August 2022 03:30 (one week ago) link

New yesterday: a John Tejada mix of Orbital rarities on their youtube channel

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 5 August 2022 21:41 (one week ago) link

This rarities mix of their old stuff is great.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:55 (one week ago) link

xps to nashwan:

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/orbital-tell-sde-of-archival-reissue-plans/

groovypanda, Saturday, 6 August 2022 14:08 (one week ago) link

ty

nashwan, Saturday, 6 August 2022 14:26 (one week ago) link


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