Orbital - Classic or Dud?

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Matt DC, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

i liked the mutations ep and the tune in mortal combat - they ok

a-33, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Are we here? I'm over there, probably saying Classic.

Jeff W, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Oh God, Classic, by so far it's not funny. The last LP was a bit rubbish, but the previous ones are all brilliant, In Sides and Brown especially.

Nick Southall, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

A magnificent duo who've made a string of good or great records. I don't go a month without listening to something of theirs.

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

TOTAL CLASSIC. Some of the largest techno influences: Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Richard James (aka Aphex Twin) and Orbital.

p & p are real cool in person, too.

christopher, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...
Heard something new from Paul Hartnoll tonight on Zane Lowe, ethereal and crunchy, very Orbitalesque (ish?), would fit nicely on Snivilization. Apparently there's going to be a new Orbital album soon, could be a disaster but I'm quite stoked about this.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If there is one dance/electronica act that is undeniably classic, then Orbital is it. "In Sides" is the best album of the entire genre.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 23 October 2006 20:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I thought they broke up after Blue in '04. Gotta link for any info on a new album?

turkey (turkey), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 05:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Loopz the official Orbital site has a bit on it but info is very, very sketchy.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They definitely did break up. I hope if they're bringing out a new album it's better than the last couple which were really disappointing. However i'm really excited about hearing it!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Those recent ones kind of suggested they had lost it, so I don't think breaking up was the stupidest thing to do at the time.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

just in today - new paul hartnoll 12" - dec 4th - on kids label

http://www.kidsthelabel.co.uk

tracks : patchwork guilt/gloopy

and both are very classical orbital styled tracks ..

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i thuoght they split up!?

wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

never mind.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I suppose Paul Hartnoll didn't split up.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

amoebas can split themselves

latebloomer: Veteran of the Mai Tai Massacre (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Okay, so is this like the shortest Orbital thread on ILM or what?

Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
i have seen the light and it is titled 'middle of nowhere'. only took eight years.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hahahaha! Better late than never! (Now go immerse yrself in In Sides and Snivilization.)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

He might mean the Hanson one.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

hurrah for MoN which is > Snivilisation > Insides. today.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

really? should i try MoN? i'm still totally sold on brown.

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hahahaha! Better late than never! (Now go immerse yrself in In Sides and Snivilization.)

-- HI DERE, Wednesday, May 2, 2007 4:53 PM (16 minutes ago)


oh i've been all over those forever! it was liking 'in sides' so much that left me underwhelmed by 'middle of nowhere'. but i'm over that now.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The true test is when you go "Wait, there's actually some really awesome stuff on The Altogether!"

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

never got that, so will update in 2015

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Wait, there's actually some really awesome stuff on The Altogether!

or even the last album (which i never listen to)

the first three tracks on MON are so great. still dislike 'Style'.

In Sides would probably win an Orbital albums Poll, don't think it's worth doing one. An Orbital non-singles tracks poll might be more fun.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

meanwhile i heard the first minute or so of 'Frenetic' the other day for the first time and finally understood why that track doesn't get much love. it really sucks until the 'Kinetic' hook comes in properly.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

insides ftw

sleep, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

and of course halcyon + on + on

sleep, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I don't think I will ever get sick of listening to "Way Out/Spare Parts Express". Middle of Nowhere could be just those two tracks and I would barely notice. (OK, "Nothing Left" is pretty nice too.) As time goes on, it gets more and more cemented as my favorite Orbital song (I think of it as one song, don't make me split it up!).

Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ditto to vinnie. mostly. insides is really not all that.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I don't think I will ever get sick of listening to "Way Out/Spare Parts Express". Middle of Nowhere could be just those two tracks and I would barely notice.

this is where i've been for all these years... but then i reached further in.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

'in sides' opening and closing tracks still godhead.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

so much so that they sampled most of them on MoN.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Pop Will Eat Itself were sampling their previous albums when Hartnolls wuz nipXoRs

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

KLF sampled the same two songs throughout their entire career but HELL THEY WERE THE KLF!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i wonder why they didn't just get Alison G to sing 'Autumn'. i suppose Pooka or whatever they were called brought a slightly different quality to it - more 'waily'. the opening lines of the song are wonderfully sinister.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

insides is really not all that.

STONE THE INDFIDEL

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

this is where i've been for all these years... but then i reached further in.

I've tried, but it's been tough. I know I've heard the whole thing at least ten times by now, and I've had it for years. But putting "Way Out/Spare Parts Express" first kills the album for me. It's just such a perfect song, nothing else on the album really compares after listening to it. And I never want to not listen to it when I pull out the album!

I'm starting to think my relationship with this song is unhealthy.

Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

srsly d00d. the box, ace, the rest, fnuh. altogether aside, probly my least listened to orbital album. maybe i'll have a relisten.

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Adnan's" is possibly my favorite thing they've ever done. I'm not super invested in "Dwr Budr" but everything else on that album is essential listening for me.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the box, ace, the rest, fnuh.

dude 'The Girl With The Sun In Her Head' surely. 'P.E.T.R.O.L.' kicks bottoms. 'Dwr Budr' is as sinister, melancholy and lush as anything they've done, 'Adnans' too for that matter. i never used to like it as much as the second album and thought the highs on it were no greater than the high on 'Sniv'...perhaps I still don't but it really is a great piece of work as a whole.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i've seen Orbital only 4 times ever, all at festivals (in 97, 99, 02 and 04).

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

but as i've said elsewhere on ILM if Orbital were to ever come back and do one of those 'perform the entire album from start to finish' gigs, I would now want it to be InSides.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

'OUT THERE SOMEWHERE' FFS PEOPLE

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Saw Orbital at the Royal Albert Hall ('96?) and that remains one of the most incredible gigs I've ever witnessed in my life.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ok, i WILL have a relisten. but it's still MoN all the way for me.

i think i saw orbital 7 times! five times at glasto (ISTR the same as steve, with added sometime around 1994, though 02 i was not into it so much for some reason), once at Brixton wossname, and once at Hammersmith Palais (though i was super grumpy from ticket shananigans, and it was the Altogether tour meh-ness)

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The first couple of minutes of Dwr Bdr are amazing and spine-tingling. In fact the second half of The Box is probably the bit I was most tempted to skip last time I listened to InSides, maybe I've just heard too much.

The first three tracks on MoN are incredible but I remember thinking at the time the album sagged hugely after that. It's improved with age if anything, possibly because around 2004 loads of dance music sounded like MoN (Nothing Left in particular). I Don't Know You People is still a bit crap though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(this sounds like a record for me - i.e. the act i've seen the most live. i'd have to count times i've seen New Order...)

Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

never got into Diversions much, but Sniv is one of my favorite albums ever :)

frogbs, Monday, 11 January 2016 20:52 (three years ago) Permalink

Diversions is solid but not a masterpiece, with the exception of "Impact USA" which is prob in their top 5

police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 11 January 2016 21:50 (three years ago) Permalink

Diversions was not a proper album though was it? Just some of the Peel Sessions and Lush remixes

groovypanda, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 11:38 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it was a US only release I think that we could get on import?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 12:49 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, it was some but not all of the Peel Session, some remixes from the UK Lush single, and then "Impact USA" which was at the time an exclusive I believe and the only truly essential track on the thing

police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 15:46 (three years ago) Permalink

also, in case anyone hasn't heard this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h44AGRkobIU

police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:22 (three years ago) Permalink

oh my god i hadn't

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:33 (three years ago) Permalink

The drop-off from The Middle of Nowhere to The Altogether is so noticeable and so vast that I can't help but wonder what the fuck happened. It sounds like they had no idea where they wanted to go or what they wanted to do, and were fumbling around trying to find a way of sustaining the Orbital "brand" ... I still think their last one, Wonky, was a fine record... just as underrated as The Middle of Nowhere, if perhaps not as good. I find The Altogether and Blue Album depressing listens, though, if only because they sound like the work of a great outfit not knowing what the fuck to do with themselves, in the worst way.

Turrican, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:20 (three years ago) Permalink

I think The Altogether and The Blue Album are good albums from an act that we got very used to giving us stellar, outstanding albums, and as such are discounted in a way that's somewhat unfair.

Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:22 (three years ago) Permalink

Not sure I've ever even heard either of them all the way through. "Funny Break" went in a direction I just wasn't interested in and the Doctor Who track was so cheap I wrote off the whole thing. No idea what's even on the Blue Album.

ledge, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:29 (three years ago) Permalink

The Hartnolls were very vocal about dealing with writer's block around '98 or so, particularly with regards to "Style", which was just one of 'em finding a stylophone and crafting a melody out of it, and then a song around that. Of course the melody reflects that, first time I heard it I thought it sounded like something a kid might've come up with. So The Altogether was just an attempt to do something that didn't take so much damn work, making tunes that were more fun, more based on samples, more Fatboy Slimmish. Obviously they were chock out of ideas, hence why the 5-year old "Doctor Who" cover made it. Blue Album was originally intended to be just an EP and I think was solely just a way to say goodbye to the fans who had stuck with them. It didn't seem like the group thought they were particularly great records at the time.

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:44 (three years ago) Permalink

Funny Break and Dr Who are two of the three best tracks on The Altogether, most of the rest is so self-evidently tossed off that you probably made the right call.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 10:57 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

No idea what's even on the Blue Album.

The only one I would recognize is the one with the Christopher Eccleston sample but no idea what it's called. I think it actually got half decent reviews when it came out though.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 08:26 (two years ago) Permalink

You Lot is the one with the Eccles sample. I also like Acid Pants and One Perfect Sunrise.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 11:22 (two years ago) Permalink

It's not a bad disc, I think it was just abundantly clear they were cooked. "You Lot" definitely the best track, "One Perfect Sunrise" is also quite good but I think the Orbital of the mid-90's could've turned it into a total stormer.

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 13:23 (two years ago) Permalink

cooked?

piscesx, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 13:29 (two years ago) Permalink

Done, out of steam, finished, tired, inspirationless, going through the motions, worn out, etc

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 13:42 (two years ago) Permalink

They'd turned into the sugar free version: Sorbital.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 14:27 (two years ago) Permalink

ah gotcha.

piscesx, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 18:28 (two years ago) Permalink

It's where their music started sounding tiresome and routine.
Chorebital

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 31 March 2016 17:29 (two years ago) Permalink

snorebital

koogs, Thursday, 31 March 2016 17:32 (two years ago) Permalink

their brief death metal phase: gorebital

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 March 2016 17:35 (two years ago) Permalink

gonna go ahead and write the Orbituary

frogbs, Thursday, 31 March 2016 17:51 (two years ago) Permalink

These were all proposed Orbital album titles until that other band had to go and use up all the Orb related puns

Vinnie, Thursday, 31 March 2016 23:59 (two years ago) Permalink

The last great Orbital release imho was their single Don't Stop Me/The Gun Is Good. The latter is actually in my top 10 of their best tracks, which is saying a lot considering how much I loved their stuff from 92-99.

octobeard, Friday, 1 April 2016 05:14 (two years ago) Permalink

have we ever polled orbital?

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 April 2016 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink

As in a ballot-based tracks poll? I don't think so?

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 1 April 2016 20:45 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

https://vimeo.com/166207798

schwantz, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 18:47 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

so Paul made an album with Vince Clarke and nobody's talking about it? does anyone have it?

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 12:49 (two years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't say *nobody*...

http://thequietus.com/articles/20721-vince-clarke-paul-hartnoll-2square-album-review

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 13:08 (two years ago) Permalink

I didn't even know about this! I find the idea of this one a bit more exciting than the Gore collaboration.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:40 (two years ago) Permalink

It isn't very good, not terrible either but just sort of watery and unmemorable.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm not expecting it to be amazing, but I'll still give it a listen out of curiosity.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:45 (two years ago) Permalink

It's total comfort food; I liked it a lot.

Don't boo, vote (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:47 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

New single out on Friday!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BikAp_qHV5t/?taken-by=orbital

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 20:26 (ten months ago) Permalink

the track itself is on both their recently-released live albums. sort of an Orbital-meets-Plaid sort of deal. hopefully there's a B-side!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 20:51 (ten months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

New album is actually great! It's got silliness and some serious bangers. Love the title track, The Raid, P.H.U.K., Tiny Foldable Cities and the fantastic There Will Come A Time.

Feels more "Orbital" than Wonky, but far less "phoned in" than the Blue album felt.

octobeard, Friday, 14 September 2018 05:34 (six months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

here's a really cool project, a 5 1/2 hour compilation of live performances with tracks often blending together several live performances. also a couple of "Choose your own adventure" elements. have not been through it all yet but so far it's sounding amazing

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nykrdz6hjgy82v5/AAD9I1pz04bEte6D0T6O0KrYa?dl=0

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

sounds awesome, link is broke tho??

Randomly been playing the crap out of Middle of Nowhere lately :D

maffew12, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

would love that link!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Google led me to the group on FB it originated from. The uploader is aware of the problem with the link but is currently following Orbital on their tour in Australia.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 23:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

(I'm assuming it's a Dropbox thing as they're not fond of lots and lots of people downloading the same file/s)

groovypanda, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 23:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

YSI frogbs

steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It’s like, super big. All the files are flax’s.

Can soulseek it though...username is bonzalez

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 01:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

All the files are flax’s.

thanks but nah then! :D (what's the actual project called though, I'll see if someone's converted it)

steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 06:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Timeless Soundtrack Live 1990- 2018

No idea if that's what the files are labelled though

groovypanda, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 06:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.borndirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18549 final artwork is done, everything is in that dropbox link (quite complicated with the three (four?) different versions you can make, extended/overburn or alternative options with fades or various tracks even)

StanM, Monday, 11 March 2019 19:05 (one week ago) Permalink

the "OMT050 - Timeless Soundtrack Live 1990-2018" folder contains a .torrent file that may be even better than getting everything via dropbox

StanM, Monday, 11 March 2019 19:07 (one week ago) Permalink

I think I gave their last album maybe 2 or 3 listens and I haven't felt the need to put it on since. I'm still listening to Wonky a lot, though.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 11 March 2019 19:16 (one week ago) Permalink

3 gigs, dang! okay i'm in. thanks!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 11 March 2019 19:18 (one week ago) Permalink


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