Curve: C or D?

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I'll admit it right now, I have an unconditional love for this band, even in their more uninspired moments (say, the second half of "Come Clean" except "Recovery"). But I'd be interested to hear others' opinions.

eclectomaniac, Wednesday, 20 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I quite like some of the songs which weren't so gothy or industrial. "Horror Head" is still great, after all this time.

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 20 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yes. In fact, I think the "Horror Head" EP may well have been their strongest moment, thanks to "Mission From God" and "Today is Not the Day," both amazing songs.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

CLASSICCLASSICCLASSIC. Probably my favorite band that I don't listen to anymore (although this thread will probably change that). Ned has heart set on the "Horror Head" EP, while I go for "Frozen", but really I can't think of a single song of theirs that I dislike. Oh, except "Come Clean", that sucked. But everything else was golden and wonderful.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 20 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I absorbed _Pubic Fruit_ & _Doppleganger_ via osmosis from my 1st college roomy. Thank God for him. Appreciation for Curve shot up 100 fold once my feeble mind FINALLY made the connection between them & Garbage, especially since Curve rocks MUCH harder than Shirley & Co. This isn't a case of assuming hipness due to criminal neglect and lower sales; it's a bonafide fact. Garbage plods (in a charming, shiny manner); Curve stalks (or stalked - I dunno from them since their reincarnation, and am not looking to find out).

I need to find some early Curve records.

David Raposa, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The Garbage - Curve connection is a good one, I think, in that both of these band are totally, irredeemably without merit in pretty much the same way.

That horrible gauzy early 90's production which Curve used is a horrible device used in the main by bands seeking to conceal their inability to come up with dynamics, structure or melodies. Strip it away and it would reveal.....nothing.

Garbage updated this particular trick on V.2.0, and perfected it to the extent that no matter how loud you turn it up, nothing actually hits home. It's all vapour.

Dr. C, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

bought frozen ep. heard the album wiv burny dolls on. they were so calculated in their production choices but it didnt work for me - and i liked shoey.

a-33, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Dr. C is, once again, totally OTM. Now if only he liked Neil Young...

Andrew L, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Really, really classic. Everything already mentioned is brilliant (esp Recovery and Horror Head), but I must slip in a recommendation for Chinese Burn's b-side "Robbing Charity" which really DOES stalk like wot David R said above. I lurve it. It's monotone AND menacing.

EdwardO, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh complete classic -- although I stopped after the dissapointing "Pink Girl Gets the Blues" (or whatever) after the CUCKOO album. But, "Fait Accompli"? "Die Like a Dog"? "Coast is Clear"? "Ten Little Girls"? "Doppleganger"?"Lillies Dying"? Classic Classic Classic!!!

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Dr. C, are we actually going to gague the quality of music based on the PRODUCTION of said music? C'mon, now - songwriting's as much about the flourishes and accents as it is the actual composition. Just because a Curve song sounds like shit on an acoustic guitar (and I'm assuming they do) doesn't mean said song is shit.

I kinda miss having _Version 2.0_ around.

David Raposa, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm inclined towards Dudsky, even tho' I have 2 Curve 12"s and the first album. I kind of bought into the MM hype on this lot, and that first EP isn't bad, to be fair. I don't think Dr.C is saying the songs are crap, I think he's saying there's no songs at all. Which wouldn't matter with some bands but is fatal (or indeed "Faît"-al, heh) in this instance.

Jeff W, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

**Dr. C, are we actually going to gague the quality of music based on the PRODUCTION of said music? **

Why the hell not? It sounds like what it sounds like, and I said why I don't like the way it sounds. Which I think is mainly because of the 'production'. It could be that there's not much 'production' and that the sounds were all recorded heavily filtered and processed at source. Who cares?

I have never used the 'if it sounds good on an acoustic, it must be a *real* song' argument. Ever.

Dr. C, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the Cherry EP is about all you need

g, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

or maybe that should be the Frozen EP

g, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

My bad, Dr. C. Jumped to conclusions. I assumed that's what you were getting @ (conflating your complaints w/ a mention of Neil Young).

So what does the "new" Curve sound like?

David Raposa, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

So what does the "new" Curve sound like?

Curve. The online-only Curve disc sounds like Curve too.

To be more specific, Curve '01 sounds like Curve '92 with the vocals higher in the mix.

Andy K, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Can I just say that if you can't play it on an acoustic guitar, not only is it not a song, but strictly speaking it isn't even music at all. All those bands who have used songwriting ability to conceal their shameful lack of gauzy production are so 20th century darling.

Chris, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"Can I just say that if you can't play it on an acoustic guitar, not only is it not a song, but strictly speaking it isn't even music at all."

!

Tim, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

pah guitars: if you can't play it on SPOONS and WASHBOARD it is not music

mark s, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
REVIVE

I just had to run a midday solo mission to "Buy Buy Baby" (ridiculous baby gear megastore in Chelsea) and decided to play a little Curve on ye olde iPod on the way to and from. I'd forgotten how much I used to adore this band. Between "Lillies Dying", "Die Like a Dog" and the utterly, uttelry sublime single mix (by Flood) of "Fait Accompli" (miles better than the version on Doppelganger) I was practically weeping (and embarassingly singing aloud and air-bassing) with irrepresible joy. They may indeed have been a bit of a one-trick pony, but fuck if that one particular trick wasn't decadently intoxicating. By the time "On the Wheel" came on (followed swifftly by their rousing cover of Moroder'n'Summer's "I Feel Love" from the Ruby Trax compilation), I was verily scaring the Teletubbies out of a gaggle of concerned new Moms in Buy Buy Baby, as I transformed seamlessly into very the legend inscribed of the back of one of my ill-fitting and fading Sisters of Mercy shirts, that being an "utter groove bastard." God fucking bless Curve and may he take a glistening divine piss on those who suggest that no good music came out of the 1990's.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I wonder where my Curve album is? I should listen to it.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, some classic early ILM rockism there at the end of this thread before the revive. ;-)

To go back to a point David R raised:

Appreciation for Curve shot up 100 fold once my feeble mind FINALLY made the connection between them & Garbage, especially since Curve rocks MUCH harder than Shirley & Co

Quite. And it's not just in terms of loud feedback but rhythms -- Garbage were far more cleaner and more pallid. Both Shirley Manson and Toni Halliday were/are Siouxsie-obsessed singers with dodgy end-of-eighties careers they'd like us all to forget a la Tori Amos, and on that front they did pretty well, but if the choice is between Dean Garcia and his beatboxes versus Butch Vig and his nonentities, no contest.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

That's Toni singing the chorus of "Heaven Knows" by Robert Plant, btw.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

...which farkin' ROXORZ, incidentally.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Hah, I never realized that! Makes sense, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

How many of you have heard their most recent album, "Gift" (2002). It was alluded to in the original thread, but not much was said.
It's a patchy record, but the good stuff is awesome. They dumped the electronic Garbage-y (pun intended) direction of "Come Clean" and returned to something closer to their early days, except louder, more chaotic, and with Kevin Shields guesting on guitar.
For me, "Perish" has overtaken "Coast is Clear" as the best Curve song ever.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

with Kevin Shields guesting on guitar

Hold the phazizzlone, I didn't know that.

I haven't picked up anything of theirs after Come Clean (and sold same to SecondSpin.Com, actually). I'll stick with their early stuff, but Gift does now sound promising.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

He plays on about three tracks. As you'd expect, these are three of the best tracks on the album.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Heh, what Barry sez.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sure I posted this somewhere on ILM before, but I once ran into Debbie (Curve/Echobelly guitarist) working at the Record Exchange near the Notting Hill Gate tube stop in London. "Hey, yer Debbie from Curve!" I exclaimed. Yeah, she was thrilled to reminded of that, lemme tell ya.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Next time you see her, yell "hey, yer Debbie from Echobelly!" and see if there's any difference.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

(side note: it was quite upsetting when we heard that Debbie was leaving an awesome band like Curve to play for friggin ECHOBELLY. I still don't understand what she saw in that band. Her look, her animated style of playing (i.e. she's a RAWK CHIK who kicks ass and takes names later, and I mean that in the most complimentary way possible) fit perfectly with Curve, and was completely out of place with Echobelly)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Agreed, Barry.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

(wait, if I remember correctly, she left Curve around Cuckoo, so she must have known that Dean and Toni were about to "break up" Curve indefinitely, so you can't blame her for wanting to leave. Just wish she could have ended up with a better band than Echobelly)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

But, y'know, maybe she thought Sonya was hotter than Toni (and she is, btw).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Er, but Sonya was cute until she opened her mouth, whereas Toni became sexier when she spoke.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

[It's what came out of their mouths, not the sounds of their voices that I'm referring to]

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"Gift" is the album I've got around here somewhere, which I bought specifically because of the Shields tracks on it - the good stuff is good, the off stuff isn't really that awful just pale by comparison & so on.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I heart Alex In NYC for reviving this thread.

Curve are stone cold CLASSIC.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 7 May 2004 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

So, they have a compilation due out soon. Here's the tracklist (from http://www.curve.co.uk/discography/wayofcurve.html)

CD 1 The Way Of Curve

1 Ten Little Girls
2 Coast Is Clear
3 Clipped
4 Die Like A Dog
5 Horror Head
6 Fait Accompli
7 Missing Link
8 Superblaster
9 Pink Girl With The Blues
10 Recovery
11 Chinese Burn
12 Coming Up Roses
13 Hell Above Water
14 Want More Need Less
15 Perish
16 Nice and Easy

CD 2 Rare and unreleased

1 On The Wheel
2 Triumph
3 Arms Out
4 Sigh
5 Mission From God
6 Today Is Not The Day
7 Low And Behold
8 Nothing Without Me
9 What A Waste with Ian Dury
10 Falling Free Aphex Twin mix
11 Chinese Burn Lunatic Calm mix
12 Coming Up Roses Kevin Shields Mix
13 I Feel Love
14 In Disguise
15 Sinner

Good choices? Bad choices? I've only heard one or two Curve tracks ever, and I don't even remember what they were.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 7 May 2004 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty much a straightforward singles comp up until the end on the first disc, in that I'm not too sure if they've really released singles as such in the past couple of years. The Aphex mix is on his own remix comp, however the Ian Dury and Donna Summer covers are both pretty keen. The reappearance of "On the Wheel," "Mission From God" and "Today Is Not the Day" is long overdue and goddamn welcome. Most of the early B-sides from 1991 aren't included (thankfully "Die Like a Dog" is, my own personal anthem of agnosticism/atheism) but if you can find Pubic Fruit that will cover them completely, though replicating the first three tracks on the first disc. Also, the cover of "Overground" would have been nice in place of the Aphex mix. So those caveats aside, in sum, pretty good as a starter kit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks, very informative!

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

You ilxors are overwhelming me. Here's yet ANOTHER band I should probably re-investigate just for fun. I was crazy about their first 2 EP's when they came out, and saw them live in England in '91. "Cherry" was somewhat of a disappointment, and when Doppelganger came out, I found it pretty stale and overdone. Anyway, I stopped paying attention until I heard "Perish" on the radio and bought Gift. But as a whole album, it left a lot to be desired and I think I sold it. Anyway, about 2 years ago I found a used copy of "Pubic Fruit" in L.A. and was really happy because I had sold the original EP's awhile back when I needed money and thought they wouldn't be so important to me later. I was surprised to find I still loved the old Curve stuff, more than I expected. I kept a promo CD I had of a few tracks off Gift, including "Perish". I think I'll play that now. That song is really incredible.

I didn't realize Kevin Shields was on Gift, either.

bimble (bimble), Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

That's really similar to my experience, bimble. I had the first two ep's on a mix tape (which I played to death), but wasn't as hot on "Cherry", and the songs on "Doppelganger" all sounded the same (more so than usual for Curve).
Cuckoo was a more restrained effort, having toned down the "100% volume all the time" in favour of some NON-grunge soft/loud dynamics. Great album, but their time as indie darlings had passed and it was ignored (search : both blackerthreetracker singles -- *awesome* stuff, courtesy of remixes by NIN and FSOL (when they were still good) and "On the Wheel", which begins with the best opening 90 seconds of any song in their career. The remaining 210 seconds couldn't hope to match up, but it's still a great song overall).
I heard "Come Clean" a couple of times in 1997 but it sounded like just another rock band trying to strike a hip electronica pose (although I don't feel that way about it today).
Then I was brought back to the fold via that very "Gift" promo CD, which contains the best three tracks on the album.
I believe there was another Curve CD quietly released around 1998, and at least one Dean Garcia solo record too, which I haven't heard (they were only available via expensive import from the band's website).
I am so listening to the first 20 minutes of "Gift" before the day is over.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, and you are right that the promo CD seemed to have the best tracks from Gift. Also, I wanted to say that I distinctly recall someone DJing and playing something from the Horror Head single: a b-side? I asked the DJ about it and he had said it was like the best Curve song in his opinion. It was really amazing and I never followed up on it. Must do that (writes it down with the rest of things I 'must follow up on' due to all you relentless ilxors)

bimble (bimble), Saturday, 8 May 2004 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

If it was a "Horror Head" B-side and was MBV-noise turned into scalpel/steel raining down from the heights horrorbeautyterror with moaning backing vocals, "Mission From God." If slow, beautiful, unfolding, powerful, a better cousin to "Sandpit," "Today is Not the Day."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 May 2004 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm glad everyone likes Curve. They're an eternal CLASSIC for me, even though I don't put them on much anymore. They were one of the first bands I really collected as a teenager, getting OOP singles sent my mail from the UK, searching for 12"'s etc.

The first EPs were absolutely classic. Doppelganger just took that sound and spread it, rather thinly, over an album, though 'Ice That Melts the Tips', 'Already Yours', and 'Think and Act' are standout album tracks. Cuckoo is where it's at for me. The album is well-sequenced too, building up to a great finish. It's the best heavy wall of goutar album I know from that period, but there's tons of variety throughout at the same time. Come Clean worked out for me, though it's the one I listen to least. I think it sounds louder and dirtier than most of the 'rock band goes electronic' albums, and besides, they were using samplers and drum machines from day one; the technology just got a lot more sophisticated in their downtime.

SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH the 'Coming Up Roses' B-sides: 'Habit and 'Midnight and Royal'. They're some of the best material from that period. Really tense and spooky without relying on conventional big guitars or noise.
I like Gift a lot, esp. the Shields tracks plus 'My Tiled White Floor'. There was very solid material on their internet-only album in 2000, Open Day at the Hatefest, but nothing really standout. I'll probably track down the new compilation, though there are only a couple of tracks I don't have in hard form. I think they got Flat Earth back for the cover, which is good.

Oh yeah; Cuckoo had a wonderful sleeve, as did the surrounding EPs. Only the Come Clean sleeve wasn't wholly interesting.

trivia: Debbie Smith last appeared playing with Luke Sutherland in Bows, which is such an improvement over Echobelly or the totally dire Snowpony. I'm going to go revive a Bows thread now.

xpost: Ned, yes oh yes Mission From God is glorious.

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 8 May 2004 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link

when i saw curve toni had terrible shoes. then i saw them on devil's night on detroit with spiritualized and jamc and her shoes were worse. that was a great night, all the way down woodward without stopping for a single red light until i hit maple.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 8 May 2004 03:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah, the curse of bad shoes. I always say when your favorite artist starts wearing bad shoes, you know it's over right then and there.

bimble (bimble), Saturday, 8 May 2004 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link

hah I was at that show at the Palace. What I remember most is how horrible the opening act was and how excited I was to briefly hang out with the band (+ Medicine) outside after the show

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 8 November 2010 17:59 (eight years ago) link

how horrible the opening act was

Good ol' Engines of Aggression. *dies*

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 November 2010 18:03 (eight years ago) link

Yay, Doppelganger is finally on Spodify. (I suppose I should probably check if it's on iTunes yet because I have already owned it on far too many formats.)

I had forgotten what a *nasty* sounding record it is. It's filled with a kind of gnawing self loathing and bits of strangled noise and so bloody ugly and yet still somehow beautiful.

Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 12:11 (eight years ago) link

Not sure if it's the production or the mastering but I always found doppelgänger a bit thin and lifeless. A remaster could be interesting

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 12:18 (eight years ago) link

Dunno, the production sounds more *murky* than thin or lifeless. Like, it's so bloody dense and thick that it's hard to pick out any elements, but that's kind of the point of shoegaze wall of sound.

Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 12:21 (eight years ago) link

Any thoughts on SPC ECO, Dean Garcia's new thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc-F5VTBJyA

Baron Strange of Knockin (DJP), Friday, 12 November 2010 15:06 (eight years ago) link

They're kind of an AC-30 band which makes me automatially predisposed not to like them, but I should give them a chance, I suppose.

Wheal Dream, Friday, 12 November 2010 15:27 (eight years ago) link

Oh wait, is that Debbie Smith on guitar? I take it back, I automatically love anything she's involved with.

(Though I still kind of hide from her when I see her on the train.)

Wheal Dream, Friday, 12 November 2010 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Any thoughts on SPC ECO - linked track is a dead ringer for gaze-era Curve, which would interest me more if half of my record collection didn't already consist of such things. Nice to see that Debbie Smith back in action, though!

strangled by a necklace of mexicans (Pillbox), Friday, 12 November 2010 15:39 (eight years ago) link

I could just be making it up, but I think I read somewhere that the girl singing for SPC ECO is actually Dean's own niece.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 12 November 2010 19:54 (eight years ago) link

daughter

i love spc eco, the album is really good but the EPs that have come out since are even better

the barenaked ladies are the roaring night (electricsound), Friday, 12 November 2010 23:16 (eight years ago) link

Not sure if it's the production or the mastering but I always found doppelgänger a bit thin and lifeless. A remaster could be interesting

Dunno... Listening here on a great audio system, it sounds freaking amazing. I put "Fait Accompli" pretty high up on my ballot in the ILX poll and my comment for it was:

"Somehow I picture Halliday, Garcia, Moulder, & Flood cackling in the studio as they try to see just how menacing they could make this song. "I've come to mess with your head" indeed."

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:46 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

All the EPs and the later self-released albums are available on Bandcamp now: http://curve.bandcamp.com/

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:18 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

Pubic Fruit still rules

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Monday, 25 August 2014 21:30 (five years ago) link

^indisputable truth

Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 25 August 2014 21:33 (five years ago) link

I'm Elvis Telecom and I support this message.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 25 August 2014 21:36 (five years ago) link

mookieproof, Monday, 25 August 2014 21:53 (five years ago) link

Motion carried.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 August 2014 22:33 (five years ago) link

a+

katherine, Monday, 25 August 2014 22:47 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Just noticed how awesome and weird the wayward synth bass on Horror Head is

It empowers them, he jokes (albvivertine), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 09:33 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

"Come Clean:" underrated?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 April 2016 21:47 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Curve is still the best.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 December 2016 00:27 (two years ago) link

i heard 'fait accompli' randomly in the gym once

clouds, Friday, 2 December 2016 15:07 (two years ago) link

It looks like there was mention of them here six years ago, but I just discovered Dean's band SPC ECO with his daughter on vocals when their new album came out this year. Nice stuff.

early rejecter, Friday, 2 December 2016 16:46 (two years ago) link

Yeah they've turned into a pretty good act, and they were always good from the start.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 December 2016 17:21 (two years ago) link

Hold up, have they really released basically an album and EP a year for the past several years?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 December 2016 17:34 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

So, reissues of the two first albums coming out this summer. Already have all of the bonus material but Doppelgänger could do with a remaster so I'll probably get these.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 10:57 (two years ago) link

Wow, great news.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:00 (two years ago) link

Track details here. Same here, re: owning it all already (aside from the original versions of "Rising" and "Half the Time", on the _Cuckoo_ 2 cd), but not to bad a price to gather those singles w/ the albums. Can't remember if "I Feel Love" was on _The Way of Curve_ - I got it on an NME covers comp. This quote in the comments made me laugh: That said, if they’ve done a decent remaster of Doppelgänger, I might buy it just to hear stuff like Ice That Melts The Tips (“sounds as though three guitars are beating the crap out of a fourth” said Q).

Will have to check the Rare/Unreleased Bandcamp list against my discs and see what I'm missing. Seeing the main page, their output and art aesthetic is impressive.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:54 (two years ago) link

Can't remember if "I Feel Love" was on _The Way of Curve_ - I got it on an NME covers comp

just checked.
nope its not.
i will probably get both of these as the mastering on the original cds is pretty shrill and tinny.
so, to have them all dusted up and at the same levels will be nice.

mark e, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:10 (two years ago) link

I have all the singles so the only tracks I'm missing are I Feel Love and those live and original versions of things. Doppelganger CD is really flat sounding though so might be worth getting if they've done something to fix it.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:26 (two years ago) link

It's totally on The Way of Curve. Disc 2, track 13.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:43 (two years ago) link

It's totally on The Way of Curve. Disc 2, track 13.

ahh .. i checked the wrong album !
doh.

mark e, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:34 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Thank ya for sharing that!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 20:29 (one year ago) link

Has anyone listened to the pre-Curve stuff like State of Play from '86, Toni Halliday's solo album from '89, or the Uncles single from '84? Any good?

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:10 (one year ago) link

I've listened to the '89 solo album and I want to like it more than I do but can't get past the dated '80s production

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:14 (one year ago) link

lol I just read this whole thread and I've mentioned that I saw Scylla live 3 times.

Did you know I saw Scylla live in 1995?

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:33 (one year ago) link

The Scylla demos are great. ("Helen's Face" was on the "Showgirls" soundtrack, fwiw.) The link for the demos is dead, but they must be out there somewhere.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

Whoops, didn't catch the "pre-Curve" specification.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:37 (one year ago) link

Curve has been perfect for West coast road trip! I noticed once on another thread how Robert Plant's Now & Zen features (iirc) both Toni and Kirsty MacColl on backing vox.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 22:41 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

It's never enough to swallow those pills
Now I'm sick, and always will be.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 14:57 (eleven months ago) link

eight months pass...

Bonus points : Today I found Public Fruit and Come Clean in a local charity shop.

mark e, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 11:14 (three months ago) link

Pubic Fruit rules. Come Clean hurts my ears sometimes, but I've come around to it!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 11:24 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

just had one of my tweeters fixed due to excess a few weeks ago.
so, probably not the best time to rediscover how much i love curve.

mark e, Thursday, 15 August 2019 18:55 (one month ago) link

I was just blasting "Frozen" last week

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 15 August 2019 18:58 (one month ago) link

DJP : if you haven't checked them out, then the freebie SPC ECO remixes/art of pop remixes compilations are way better than i ever expected them to be.

mark e, Thursday, 15 August 2019 19:13 (one month ago) link

so, today i picked up some eurythmics cds from a local charity shop.
i never expected to see deans name in the credits.

mark e, Friday, 23 August 2019 19:10 (three weeks ago) link

ooh yeah, of course ..
duhh ...

mark e, Friday, 23 August 2019 21:30 (three weeks ago) link


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