I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

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yeah i can imagine people getting suckered into the anthologies as some kind of definitive look at the beatles... that bluesy version of helter skelter is really wonderful. and the acoustic "across the universe".

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dave k, Friday, 14 April 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure The White Album will always sound best on vinyl.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Are there any Beatle albums that don't?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, so in that case, why does there need to be such a rush to get them remastered?

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I for one hear absolutely no difference.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i mean it does take the piss doesn't it?

pisces, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:18 (sixteen years ago) link

lo-lo-lo-looooots of piss, sir! :(

t**t, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought Help for £1 in a charity shop the other week. It was cheap because the cover was ripped (and taped up again) and the vinyl's a bit crackly, but it's not scratched at all. Even with the crackles it sounds great - a lot better than the CD versions, The Night Before especially gaining an awful lot of character and energy. I too am amazed there's no proper CD remaster, I guess because people are still buying the current shonky versions.

The Wayward Johnny B, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

This footage
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=compleat+beatles
of 'The Compleat Beatles' (snappy 1984 cheaply-made proto-ANTHOLOGY movie, shot on film and narrated by Malcolm Mcdowell) is
making me anticipate this happening all the more.

pisces, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

It will happen before or since, but apparently at still takes time.

I expected they'd at least do "Sgt. Pepper" in June this year to coincide with its 40th anniversary, but they did't.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

But at least, with the current trend for remasters, the ultimate edition will be better. I hope they will do like The Bee Gees and Monkees remasters, and put out 2CDs with the stereo version + bonus tracks in stereo on one and the mono version + bonus tracks in mono on the other one.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

they never do anything right with the beatles catalogue, they're sure to disappoint someone. i say live with the ebbett's bootlegs for now.

akm, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe something with the Apple/iPod stuff later today.

caek, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

that's been the rumour, but it was the rumour a few months ago also. anyway, it's been confirmed that the albums have been remastered (by bruce spizer, in some interview last month), but not packaged or manufactured yet, and no confirmation on whether they'll have a mono/stereo split or what, or when they're ever going to come out.

akm, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

macca and ringo 'secret gig' rumoured
volume one of lewisohn triple-volume biog coming at xmas

its hotting up again on the fabs front. a bit.

pisces, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

macca and ringo 'secret gig' rumoured

At long last their tribute show to the White Stripes.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link

At long last their tribute show to the White Stripes godheadSilo.

David R., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Beatles Remasters

smash your phonograph in half, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I posted that link before realizing that it is kind of a goldmine.

smash your phonograph in half, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn, wish I had a bigger hard drive...

Z S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

(no penis jokes plz)

Z S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

if pressed for time, go for white album disc 5 - kinfauns demos

then rubber soul through magical mystery tour, mono versions

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Are the demos the same as the ones that show up on the Anthology, or are these different? And how do they compare in quality?

Z S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link

makes me wish i had decent external speakers for my laptop. my beatles records are not very "nice" copies. all US pressings, mostly stereo. they do sound great in mono though.

ian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

mono mixes = the mixes, up until the white album

xpost same ones, but complete & good quality. it's them camped at home with a 4 track, learning the songs as they track them but having fun, sounding much more like a band than the album

http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=vigo_183§ion=1

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i really wish that circus mashup album didn't suck so bad.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

has anyone ever noticed that the ebbetts bootlegs sound like crap on headphones?. especially yellow submarine and magical mystery tour.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the stereo of those albums (some of them) is very wide so that's why; ebbetts did cd versions of almost everything though, including weird shit like canadian stereo versions, etc, which differ slightly. I think the regular cd stereo versionns of MMT and Pepper are alright (and really don't have any serious problems with white album or abbey road either; I think abbey road is a pretty glorious sounding cd). the early records are a mixed bag; these days I prefer the capitol box versions (anyway I grew up with the US versions of the albums, so it's kind of nice to return to the admittedly fucked up tracklistings...though I do think 'the second album' is pretty awesome).
anyway yeah the purple chick stuff is pretty exciting, it seems to have just popped up in the past few months? or at least that's where I heard about it. and being distributed completely free so no evil bootleggers making money. it makes official remasters kind of irrelevant.
today i listened to all the 'sessions' mixes of tracks off the anthology,critically and without the 'oh wow new beatles songs' luster...these really do sound like shit, emerick should be embarrassed.

akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:05 (fifteen years ago) link

but also yeah, i'm pretty much ready to sell all my parlophone beatles cds once I can get ahold of all the purple chick stuff; i usually only listen to digital files anyway, and I have a blue box vinyl set, so there's no need to keep the crappy pressings with bad artwork.

akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:10 (fifteen years ago) link

also, while I agree that the mono pepper is interesting, i really disagree that it's the better of the mixes. I think the novelty of it is kind of cool but there are bits and pieces that just sound sloppy. I know it's allegedly the mix they approved and they apparently didn't have much to do with the stereo version, but maybe that just shows the beatles were the best people to mix their material

akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link

the purple chick version of the white album is really really amazing. i'm working on just downloading the albums (no bonus tracks) and converting them to mp3, for my ipod. the only problem is that some of the tracks are switched around. like...penny lane is on the purple chick version of sgt pepper's. it's kinda confusing when dealing with torrents.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:17 (fifteen years ago) link

The Purple Chick stuff is impressive though really it's just collating already available stuff in one place. It does that very very well though and as well as the main albums they've also done releases of Hollywood Bowl, The Songs The Beatles Gave Away, the fan club records, the Star Club tapes, the BBC sessions and the 92CD complete Get Back rehearsals (also check out their 10CD complete Buddy Holly and S&G's alternate Bookends)

The mono and stereo versions of the albums on the Purple Chick sets are just the UK Ebbetts versions. There is a version of the white album released by Darthdisc (? - i think) which is from a 'direct metal master' that may even be better.

The mono Pepper is sloppy in places but certainly Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds sounds better (more phasing).

Has anyone else heard the multitracks of A Day In The Life, With A Little Help From My Friends, Sgt Pepper and She's Leaving Home that were released as an addendum to the PC Sgt Pepper? Incredible to hear.

cheasyweasel, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

itll sound shit remastered. cant you just enjoy the originals?

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

you mean the 1st pressing UK vinyl? sure, we can all enjoy those.

ian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

well, I can, anyroad.

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

no way are these the same as the ebbet's version. especially not mmt.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Found this bootleg stereo remaster of what's probably my favorite Beatles album. It blows the original CD version out of the water and I think it's more impressive than any of the purple chick stuff.
http://octaner.blogspot.com/2008/05/beatles-for-sale-fabulous-sound-lab.html

Here's a mono version for you old-schoolers. Didn't download it, though, so I can't vouch for it.
http://6plus3.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/beatles-for-sale-dr-ebbetts-red-wax-mono/

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Creeztophair, there are multiple Ebbett versions of each album: UK, US, Mono, Stereo, strange pressings from other territories. He's pretty much transferred them all so it depends what Ebbett version of MMT you've heard.

I have the PC Magical Mystery Years sleevenotes in front of me now and the stereo MMT tracks are taken from the Ebbett German MMT except for I Am The Walrus which is from the Ebbett UK EP Collection. The mono tracks are all from the Ebbett EP Collection.

I think this is the only one of the PC releases that doesn't take the main album tracks from the Ebbett transfer of the UK releases. IIRC this is because the German MMT vinyl release was in true stereo whereas the US LP was not.

cheasyweasel, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

these PURPLE CHICK people should be knighted.

piscesx, Sunday, 13 July 2008 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Okay here we go then.

MOJO (who else?) exclusively reports this month that the original albums have been remastered and will hopefully be coming out in 2009, in a full on splurge of mono and stereo 2 disc versions, with fancy hardback book style packaging. Sorry but as a huuuuge Beatles fan since a kid this may well be the first time i queue up outside a record shop the morning it opens.

The piece in the mag says
"For today's playback, stereo remastering engineer Guy Massey has synchronised the remasters with the original 1987 CD masters, allowing us to flip between the two. It's like we've been hearing them under glass all these years..."

Woop Woop!

piscesx, Monday, 15 September 2008 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

It will be interesting to see if these sound as good as the bootlegs.

Jazzbo, Monday, 15 September 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks like Apple may have more to say about it tomorrow. No 5.1 mixes — guess we'll be buying those down the road.
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/apple-to-confirm-beatles-itunes-deal-and-new-ipods-on-tuesday-172271

Jazzbo, Monday, 15 September 2008 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

that was last tuesday right? and there was no fabs news i don't think.

piscesx, Monday, 15 September 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Yup, my bad.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link

something is allegedly going to be in rolling stone in the next few weeks, and apple should be offically announcing in the next week as well, from what I read elsewhere.

akm, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Hopefully they'll take a leaf out of Radiohead's short-lead-time example, and pump them out in two weeks time.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i think the rumored plan was to do the white album first to coincide with the 40th anniversary, then roll out the others. but it was just a rumor so no idea if that's what'll happen.

akm, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Has anyone else heard the multitracks of A Day In The Life, With A Little Help From My Friends, Sgt Pepper and She's Leaving Home that were released as an addendum to the PC Sgt Pepper? Incredible to hear.

― cheasyweasel, Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:07 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest

Man, this shit is thrilling, I could not believe my ears when I found out about it. I haven't gotten any of the other masters that have come out recently (Nirvana & Queen are very appealing tho...). The most amazing part was having the affirmation that Sgt. Pepper was recorded on 4 tracks. You listen to these and say, wow, crap, I guess they must have bumped down/premixed a TON of stuff. If you have experience with home recording on 4-tracks you realize just how much care went into making sure these mixes were as tight as they were. Such a cool thing to have..

Any decent new bootlegs surface lately? I've been out of the loop for a while. I don't care about the remasters cos it sounds to me like nothing new will come out just the whole 'alternate mixes' scheme. Which is one of the reasons I stopped paying attention to bootlegs in the first place. I dont care about alternate mixes give me Carnival of Light or the Beatles jamming on one chord stoned for half an hour! Anything but "Oh, this is the german stereo 1984 remix". Ugh....

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I think those multitracks are the only "new" things to appear. The Purple Chick series is widely available though via torrent sites, they are very very very comprehensive .flac files of the best sources of both mono and stereo versions of each album and assorted outtakes studio sessions...nothing that wasn't already around on past masters or ultra rare trax, but everything has been compiled together with the best sources for once. but it took me like, days to get all the white album stuff, and I've not even been able to listen to it.

akm, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I've not been able to listen to *any* of it... yet.

Oh, but by the way, I have that german stereo 1964 LP, and was dead pleased to get the CD 'facsimile' when it came out: We were living in Germany at the time...

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

the “you can talk to me” part

brimstead, Thursday, 23 November 2023 00:28 (four months ago) link

It’s an additional snare drum. It was always there (and arguably more audible on the previous stereo mix).

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 23 November 2023 04:52 (four months ago) link

I wondered that too and yeah it's in the original mix but quieter.

It sounds like a snare reverb, but with a delay in front of it. Nowadays you call it pre-delay on a reverb unit, not sure how they managed that in 1968, perhaps with an Echoplex or a Binson and a bit of patching.

MaresNest, Thursday, 23 November 2023 14:41 (four months ago) link

Funny I find it less audible in the remix. Maybe because I’m so used to hearing it clearly in the previous stereo mix.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 23 November 2023 15:14 (four months ago) link

Cool idea/detail anyway !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 23 November 2023 15:14 (four months ago) link

weird, yeah, went back and AB-d it with the 2009 mix and couldn’t really hear it. But I know I’m probably listening more closely to this new stuff so maybe most of the new stuff I’m hearing isn’t really new. That said, the set does sound quite dynamic, yeah? Like when Ringo’s drums come in at the middle 8 of “this boy”, it’s like BOOM

brimstead, Thursday, 23 November 2023 18:50 (four months ago) link

Wasn't the remix exclusive to the Yellow Submarine Songtrack comp from the '00s?

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:04 (four months ago) link

The baseline on Hey Bulldog is such a joy (not just on the new mix)

Alba, Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:12 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.thebeatles.com/sites/default/files/2024-04/LetItBe_KA_4x5_032624.jpg

Today, Disney+ announced that “Let It Be,” director Michael Lindsay-Hogg’s original 1970 film about The Beatles, will launch exclusively on Disney+ May 8, 2024. This is the first time the film is available in over 50 years.

https://www.thebeatles.com/let-it-be-last

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:52 (six hours ago) link

This is the first time the film is available in over 50 years.

Wasn't it out on VHS/Video Disc in the '80s?

...and on CED!

(That's a deep cut for you obsolete media fans)

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:10 (four hours ago) link


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