Charlie Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra - "Not In Our Name"

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I noticed this on import in HMV for £20.99 over the weekend. Unfortunately LMO releases over the years have meant diminishing musical returns AFAIC, so has anyone heard this and if so, is it worth investing in/blagging? The track listing alarms me somewhat.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Gulp! I see what you mean!

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Lift Every Voice and Sing the same song as on Wattstax, sung by Sister Kim Weston, I think? Was it a Wattstax special composition, or an old favourite?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:49 (fourteen years ago) link

An old favourite! Also covered by Shooby Taylor!

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I just flippantly commented recently that it might be time they returned to do something reflecting whatever political concerns they might have in 2005. Weird. The tracklisting still looks potentially interesting as fodder for subversion, no?

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I was wondering how this is. I saw it in the record store the other day, but I got distracted by looking at that new Herbie Hancock cd.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I had to review it for Jazziz. It's okay - it feels much more like a Haden album than a Liberation Music Orchestra album (less blare, more stately and dignified beauty with a dash of restrained melancholy). The version of "This Is Not America" is really good, though there's a weird moment where the band throws in a snippet of "Shall We Gather At The River." That kinda threw me off, because this is an album that's all about standing up to cruel power, and "Shall We Gather" is indelibly associated in my mind with the slaughter of the Temperance League in The Wild Bunch. I doubt that's what Bley and Haden had in mind.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link

they're trying to TAKE BACK THE HYMN

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link


Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmm. It gets a UK release on 19 September so I'll probably just wait for that.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Amazon users rate this highly. ILXor thoughts? Been listening again to "Ballad of the Fallen" and being enamored.

ian, Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

ECM email is reporting that Charlie Haden passed away today.

curmudgeon, Friday, 11 July 2014 20:38 (five years ago) link

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 July 2014 20:39 (five years ago) link

It is with deep sorrow that we announce that Charlie Haden, born August 6, 1937 in Shenandoah, Iowa, passed away today at 10:11 Pacific time in Los Angeles after a prolonged illness. Ruth Cameron, his wife of 30 years, and his children Josh Haden, Tanya Haden, Rachel Haden and Petra Haden were all by his side.

Tina Pelikan
ECM Records Publicity

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 July 2014 20:43 (five years ago) link

well shit

the late great, Friday, 11 July 2014 21:50 (five years ago) link

this is the only charlie haden thread?


the late great, Friday, 11 July 2014 21:52 (five years ago) link

Aw, damn, I was listening to him just a few nights ago. RIP

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 11 July 2014 21:55 (five years ago) link

RIP - that hank jones record he did a couple years ago was great, as was his Keith Jarrett duet album.

tylerw, Friday, 11 July 2014 21:58 (five years ago) link

RIP - I haven't heard enough of his more recent work, but the early Ornette albums and the first Liberation Music Orchestra album are still radical and indelible.

one way street, Friday, 11 July 2014 22:00 (five years ago) link

sentimental favorite ... weird track, not the best showcase of his skills. i like it because i used to have my alarm clock set to jazz radio and i woke up to this track one morning, it was magical.

the late great, Friday, 11 July 2014 22:01 (five years ago) link

i wasn't really conscious until the "sextant"-sounding part about 6 minutes in and i thought i was still dreaming because it was so weird

the late great, Friday, 11 July 2014 22:02 (five years ago) link

So glad that he lived to hear the album recently released by his daughters.

banjoboy, Saturday, 12 July 2014 00:26 (five years ago) link

he looked in fine health just a few years back, but that's how it goes.

what a musician

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 12 July 2014 00:35 (five years ago) link

To me he could do no wrong, never played a note he didn't mean, always had great collaborators and interesting things to say about other musicians, great family man, no false humility, no bluster, no jive, just a great tone and great music. Beautiful deep cat and I am very sad that I will never get to go to another one of his gigs, and didn't go to enough of them when he was here.

Don't Want To Know If Only You Were Lonely (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 July 2014 00:40 (five years ago) link

I feel so glad I got to interview him in person once (in '97; he was promoting Beyond the Missouri Sky, an album of duets with Pat Metheny). Seriously one of the calmest, most centered, kindest people I've ever met. Reminded me of my favorite Jesuit priest from the two years I spent in Catholic school. I only saw him play live twice—once with the Quartet West, that same year, and then again in 2003 at a NYC jazz festival; his group was on the same bill as Ornette Coleman's group, but they never took the stage together, unfortunately.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 12 July 2014 01:09 (five years ago) link

that metheny album is actually pretty nice.
there's an interview clip w/ haden (which i think appears in the ken burns jazz thing, maybe elsewhere) where he describes his first day with ornette and it's like it was a religious experience (he might even use those words i can't remember). it's just a good reminder that behind the genius of a guy like ornette, you need to have someone there at the very beginning who is just a complete true believer. a disciple if you want to get religious about it. like, there are lots of easier paths to go down if you want to be a musician than to align yourself with someone like ornette coleman. but haden seems to have done it with complete trust.

tylerw, Saturday, 12 July 2014 02:24 (five years ago) link

Charlie Haden sitting at the drums in the Synanon movie

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 14:34 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

Read elsewhere that this was quite touching and inspiring

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 20:05 (five years ago) link
January 16, 2015

Message at Charlie Haden Memorial: “Hey, Man—We’re Family”

Jazz Musicians Honor the Great Bassist at Town Hall

By Larry Blumenfeld

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 January 2015 17:35 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

I am massively loving his Folk Songs album and the collab he did with Carla Bley right now.

xelab, Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:11 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

too cool

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:26 (two weeks ago) link

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