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are the disappointing sales going to break SFA up??? How come their album didn't reach top ten after good midweek sales (number 7)

paulx, Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Love Kraft just no. 19 in the UK - what the fuck???

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

Cian Ciaran, the keyboard player, just released his album this past Monday. As a long-time fan, I am pleased and even a little bit shocked at how good it is. The LP is just as good as Gruff's solo efforts.

Here is the Spotify link:

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

revisiting this after not listening to it since release:

damn good track.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Surprisingly, Bunf seems to be the one with the freshest sounding side project:

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 12:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Loving this stuff.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 18 March 2013 15:18 (five years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

They've reunited...

Super Furry Animals may currently be on an extended hiatus, but the Welsh psych rock icons are aiming to be top of the hops with the launch of their own beer.

Produced in conjunction with the Celt Experience Brewery, members of the band will be stirring up a storm when their new beer – named Fuzzy (after their debut album Fuzzy Logic) is unveiled at a special event next month.

Those who love their beers can taste the new brew at the one-night only Fire Festival on Saturday, February 1. Billed as ‘a celebration of innovative craft beer, art and smokey food’, it will be held to celebrate the Celtic Experience’s new village development at its brewery on the Pontygwindy Estate in Caerphilly.

The Festival will include free samples of the brewery’s acclaimed craft beers and a live performance from the Super Furry Animals – a live brewing performance that is.

Gruff, Guto, Cian, Daf and Bunf – who have been pursuing their own projects since they released their last album Dark Days/Light Years in 2009, will put the finishing touches to their own collaborative beer, which will be available in pubs around Wales and chosen outlets in London in March.

Fuzzy Beer, follows the launch of Goldie Lookin’ Ale – a collaborative beer between Welsh rappers Goldie Lookin’ Chain and Newport-based Tiny Rebel Brewery last year.

“We’re making it with our own specially formulated recipe, although I can’t tell you what that is,” laughs Furries keyboard maestro Cian Ciaran.

“Me and Daf (SFA drummer Dafydd Ieuan) met Tom who owns the brewery last year and we all thought it would be a good idea to make our own Furry brew.”

Although the band won’t be playing live, several members of the group will DJ on the night.

to brew a beer. :\

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:58 (four years ago) Permalink

American Interior is to come in four formats – a 13-song album, to be released on 5 May, which will be Rhys's fourth solo album; a book, described as "a psychedelic historical travelogue in which Gruff traces Evans' incredible journey from North Wales to new Spain, alongside the tale of his own strange American road trip following in Evans's footsteps", which will be published in late May; a film directed by Dylan Goch, documenting Rhys's 2012 tour; and an app consisting of 100 entries telling Evans's story.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:24 (four years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Loving the new Pale Blue Dots song:

Also got a new Gulp song this past week:

Not been a bad year for SFA, if you're not looking for an actual SFA album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Shocked, but not displeased, a publisher picked this up:

Rawlins, formerly digital editor of Artrocker, will document the story of the Welsh rock band's rise to iconic status.

The book, acquired by publishers The Friday Project, will tell the story of the band's time signed to Creation Records.

It will also cover their lavish marketing campaigns, which included equipping an army tank with a techno sound system and making plans to convert an aircraft carrier into a nightclub.

Lead singer Gruff Rhys said of the book: "Revolutionary, crazed and beautiful musical events and conversations that originally happened through the medium of a cracked youthful version of the Welsh language in the mid-nineties are presented here for the first time in quality English.

Also, new song by The Earth. It's really good:

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:36 (four years ago) Permalink

I had a feeling Ric would get something like this put out eventually, and given his passion and enthusiasm for the band it should be at the very least pretty good. Why he hasn't gone the whole hog and covered their Epic Records/Rough Trade years too is a huge mystery, though.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Vol 2

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:12 (four years ago) Permalink

I just feel like there's, max, a dozen people out there that want to read this story. I'm not complaining, though. I've wanted an SFA book for years.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Gruff's book doesn't count.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:26 (four years ago) Permalink

Even though I care the least I probably ever have about this band right now, I'll definitely be still giving this book a read. Partly because I enjoy reading books of this ilk, and partly because I'm interested to see how much depth the book actually goes into. Hopefully I'll learn something new from it, or it'll give me a new perspective on albums and tracks I've played to death in the past. It'll be interesting to see how much it sells, too... I can't help but feel that the perfect time to do something like this would have been around the time of Songbook, and covering the years 1994-2004.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:52 (four years ago) Permalink

It would be annoying to put out the biography and then for them to reform five minutes later

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:22 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, they're technically not broken up... And it seems likely they'll get together sooner than later. So that'll probably happen.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:21 (four years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't be fazed if they never got back together again to make music, and I wouldn't feel much of a loss either. At one point the thought of SFA splitting up would have been incredibly depressing, but I'm really unsure if they've got anything more to give.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:03 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't think they'll ever release an epic album that changes the world, but I think those days are behind any band any of us knows about. Hopefully their time apart has taught them some new tricks. I think it has, but I know you're not really fond of anything they've done since DD/LY.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:34 (four years ago) Permalink

The Friday Project picked up the last two Kristin Hersh album/books, it's not that much of a stretch for them

katherine, Thursday, 19 June 2014 01:56 (four years ago) Permalink

I guess you're right, 'cause I have no idea who that is.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 13:48 (four years ago) Permalink

I meant Season Sun, the name of their album. Oops.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 22:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Gulp is officially out. You can listen on Spotify

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:22 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Got to see Gruff in Manchester a couple weeks ago. It was one of the best live performances I've ever been to, and he was all on his own. The show was equal parts lecture and music performance. I never realized how naturally charming and funny he is.

In other news:

The Earth's second LP is streaming. The Earth is Daf's band. Someone from Catatonia is also in the band. I know people around here hate Catatonia. The Earth's front woman also sings for the band Slowly Rolling Camera. I think this is a pretty decent record. It's a lot better than the first one.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 14:45 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Bunf's new album is streaming.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:15 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

The Pale Blue Dots' new album is no longer streaming, but some new tracks available for stream. The album comes out next Monday (digital only). The Pale Blue Dots are also in session on Marc Riley tonight:

Some words from a website called Clash Music:

The ongoing hiatus of Super Furry Animals has dulled one of the most potent psych-pop voices around.

Thankfully, it has allowed the various members of the Welsh ensemble to engage in all manner of weird and wonderful projects.

Huw 'Bunf' Bunford is the band's lead guitarist, but recently struck up a friendship with composer Richard Chester.

Swapping ideas, the pair quickly descended into the studio to lay down some of fragments on tap. Piecing the whole thing together, The Pale Blue Dots were born.

Matching psychedelic flourishes against sweeping arrangements, a Bowie strut with lush harmonies, the project's debut album 'Lots Of Dots' is forthcoming.

Bunf says: "This is our Jekyll and Hyde moment. We love pop music, but we also like to lie down, listen to something, and not have to get up to press 'next track' for at least half an hour. The album definitely has a number of songs that could find themselves on the radio, but over the coming months we’re looking to take people on a journey into sound. By distributing found sounds online, and forming new compositions using archive material, The Pale Blue Dots is going to set out to demonstrate the pure pleasure in just listening."

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:48 (three years ago) Permalink

Also, a new Cian Ciaran single came out a couple weeks ago:

The first track is a cover of a song by an artist I'd never heard of before. The second track features that artist's vocals. I actually kind of prefer the second track

I get the feeling no one around here cares about this stuff, but I hope someone out there might. I still see the odd "SFA ARE THE BEST BAND EVER" on the internet, so I hope this news reaches someone.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Not bad tunes in the Love Kraft vein, but pretty inessential. Damn, I miss this band.

hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:21 (three years ago) Permalink

Don't think it's happening until Gruff stops making his own albums. Everyone else in the band is recording and producing their albums together.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 02:05 (three years ago) Permalink

Hi! I'm a lurker and a regular visitor to ilxor and this thread in particular. Super Furry Animals were and still are one of my favourite bands ever since I heard Mark Radcliffe play Hometown Unicorn on his late night BBC Radio One show. I can remembering him marvelling at the guitar solo on the song.

I've really enjoyed watching Gruff's solo shows since his first solo record, he's become a really engaging and entertaining performer. I wonder if the band got back together again would the live shows be a lot more interesting than they used to be. I can remember a show on the Phantom Power tour being a bit hard going with too many slow and midpaced songs all in a row.

I'm looking forward to hearing Bunf's record and am hoping that it gets released on vinyl or at least CD, the clips I've heard sound great. From that Clash interview it sounds like they're trying to do something interesting.

calimero, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:50 (three years ago) Permalink

ha! i was just subjecting my coworkers to Love Kraft and Hey Venus yesterday!

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:09 (three years ago) Permalink

Calimero, I agree that Gruff's solo show is a lot better than many of the SFA shows I've been to. Two of his shows were some of the most memorable I've ever been to. The first one was a Candylion show that also featured Tony Da Gatorra. He also had some other guys on stage with him. I'm not sure who they were.

The second one was his totally solo American Interior show. My wife, who has almost zero interest in Gruff or SFA, enjoyed the American Interior show as much as I did. He really refined his act for general consumption. I wish I'd seen him with Y Niwl and Kliph Scurlock backing him, but I still loved it.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:51 (three years ago) Permalink

SFA are very stationary and ehearsed and also rely a lot on backing tracks. That's been my issue with their shows in the past. I've still seen a couple really memorable shows. The one where they wore those fiber optic boiler suits was awesome.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:52 (three years ago) Permalink

I also saw Gruff on the recent American Interior tour in a church, there was a drum kit and amps behind him which made me think Kliph and Y Niwl would join him at one point. It turned out the gear was for the church band! Despite this disappointment it was a great show, the songs sounded fine without a band, and Gruff was an entertaining and interesting storyteller.

I didn't really appreciate Yr Atal Genhedlaeth until I saw Gruff play a gig for it a few months later and then saw how he builds up the title track. It was interesting to see him play it again, and slightly differently, on this recent tour.

Like your wife, my partner had zero interest in the band, but now loves him after seeing a few of his gigs, the two films and an American Interior q&a. I don't think that would have happened if I'd taken her to a few regular SFA shows!

Gulp and The Earth recently played my town but I will was too lazy to see them, has anyone here seen either of the two bands live?

calimero, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:52 (three years ago) Permalink

I have not seen either band. I hear Gulp is pretty good live. There are a couple nice videos online. I'm sure it's a lot more stationary than a Gruff show. I don't know much about The Earth, but I will say I really enjoyed their new album (I said that already, I think). It sounds much fuller and more varied than their first LP. I know it's not an essential release, and the vocals aren't going to pull in a lot of SFA fans, but I recommend it.

Strangetown, the record label that's put out all this other stuff, just sent .wavs of the new Pale Blue Dots album. It's unfortunately extremely short (under half an hour), but I love the whole thing. I never knew how much Bunf contributed to the band's sound. I always kind of at Gruff and Cian as the holy alliance. Honestly, The Pale Blue Dots' album comes closest to capturing the sound I fell in love with so many years ago. I understand that they are going to record more songs in the studio, so I guess Lots of Dots is more of an EP than an LP. There is an odd dance-y track with Bunf on lead vocals at the end of the album that I did not expect to like, but I can't get it out of my head.

I guess I have to give Richard Chester some credit, too. There are some great strings on the album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09 (three years ago) Permalink

I always kind of viewed*

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:11 (three years ago) Permalink

The Pale Blue Dots sounded kind of rough on their first outing, but they'd only rehearsed the night before. I enjoyed Daf coming in with his "Ice Hockey Hair" drums every couple minutes.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 31 October 2014 13:56 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've had a similar new found appreciation for Bunf's contribution to the band. These days I'm able to recognise his voice more easily!

calimero, Friday, 31 October 2014 17:51 (three years ago) Permalink

I never realized how prominent Cian's voice is on certain songs. Take for instance "Chewing Chewing Gum." It's almost his first lead vocal.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:06 (three years ago) Permalink

The Pale Blue Dots' album is streaming again (it's officially out today):

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 3 November 2014 14:45 (three years ago) Permalink

I stole a fuse from their tank at Phoenix Festival 1996. Not many bands you can say that about tbh,

Willl, Monday, 3 November 2014 22:00 (three years ago) Permalink

Can we just say they've split up now yet?

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:46 (three years ago) Permalink

If gruff embarks on another multimedia extravagnza, sure. All the rest of them are recording, producing and releasing their music together.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 01:13 (three years ago) Permalink

Can we just say they've split up now yet?

― PaulTMA, Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:46 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In my mind, they pretty much have.

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:31 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm still in denial. If they announced it, it would feel like when Supergrass split up. A band that always seemed to be there putting out good to great albums every couple of years. Both bands that make me incredibly nostalgic.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:50 (three years ago) Permalink

If they were split it up, wouldn't they just say they're split up? Gruff keeps insisting there'll be a 10th album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 15:33 (three years ago) Permalink

From what it sounds like, it doesn't seem like any of the band members have or are aware of any concrete plans for Super Furry Animals, and none of them seem particularly enthusiastic about it either, which makes me feel that the ship as sailed. I can't help but get the impression that there's a gulf between Gruff and the rest of the band, too. If they have split up and they're keeping quiet about it, then that's somewhat of a shrewd move, really. People will be more accepting of/tolerate even the shittiest of solo products if they feel a new Super Furry Animals album is eventually going to happen: like "hmm, yeah, okay this Neon Neon/Cian/Earth/Pale Blue Dots album is a bit shit, but that's okay, they'll get around to giving us the real stuff soon". Remember also that Blur never actually announced that they'd "split up" either following Think Tank, but they may as well have done for all that's happened since.

I'm still in denial. If they announced it, it would feel like when Supergrass split up. A band that always seemed to be there putting out good to great albums every couple of years. Both bands that make me incredibly nostalgic.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

When Supergrass split up, my overall feeling was one of unrealised potential. As good as records like In It For The Money and Road To Rouen are, I still think they had a lot more ground to cover and a lot left to explore as a unit. The album they were working on when they split, Release The Drones sounded very promising.

By comparison, I think the Super Furry Animals have explored every avenue they possibly can together. I honestly don't see where else they could possibly go from here. It would be a good time to leave it, I think. They've already released 10 records if you count Out Spaced as a "proper" album, anyway.

Welcome To (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 20:20 (three years ago) Permalink

Gruff's certainly drawn more attention to himself, with his most critically-acclaimed album and a fantastic stage show. The rest of the guys clearly have their work set out for them. we'll agree to disagree on the quality of the other side projects, though I've never been a neon neon fan.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 23:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Can't say much about Supergrass. I always found them pretty slight. "Alright" is a nice song and their self-titled album seemed to draw more flack than it deserved. I kind of left them behind. I know most that read this thread probably rate SFA similarly, but that's life.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 23:46 (three years ago) Permalink

never met a sfa fan that didn't totally love phantom power

albeit i've never met that many sfa fans

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it's always been my fave though

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Seemed like Phantom Power was considered a weaker RAtW back when, but I've always loved it. 'Golden Retriever' is the worst of the bunch and an evergreen song in their setlist. I'd still be pretty disappointed if all this hype is for another reissue, but I'd prob. be on the first plane to Anytown if they were doing a full Phantom Power show. Those shows were great.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It'd been nearly a DECADE since Dark Days/Light Years came out. This band used to release an album almost annually...

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

bands often release fewer new records after they split up

Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"Kliph Scurlock: None of your guesses are correct."

groovypanda, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

They never split up, though.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I mean they've gone on two or three tours together since Dark Days/Light Years came out and they went on 'hiatus.' That's not splitting up, is it?

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

By their actions, they certainly seem to have split up and reformed as a band that do reunion tours but focus all their new-music-making into the members' other projects.

Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

other (kind of rubbish) projects

imago, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 21:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

None of them are as good as SFA, but Gruff seems to have done well for himself commercially and critically.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

honestly what would make me happiest at this point is probably them announcing that all of their albums are going to be available on spotify (and other streaming services, I guess)


last CD i bought was Love Kraft and didn't even hear the last album. that was really strange for me as they became my favorite band in the world after the Boo Radleys broke up.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

DD/LY is really worth hearing. apart from the execrable 'Mt.', that is

Inaugural Trams is my perennial European holiday anthem (if I'm going anywhere that has trams)

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 00:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

'Mt.' and 'Golden Retriever' are their attempts to go bluesy, both of which should have been strangled at birth owing to SFA being the least convincingly bluesy band ever

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 00:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Pretty sure it’s on Spotify as well. Check it out, Bee. I still listen to it a lot and I’ve kind of stopped listening to SFA in general due to the curse of over familiarity.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 September 2018 00:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Has any band split in the recent?

Beyond REM and Oasis, everyone goes on hiatus. Stereolab for instance, aren't coming back but never announced a split.

Mark G, Thursday, 27 September 2018 08:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink


Release Info:
Super Furry Animals at the BBC
Formats: Heavyweight 180g Vinyl 4-Disc Ltd Edition Box Set x400/Super Limited Edition Vinyl 5-Disc x100 (STR044LP)/CD (STR044CD)/Streaming & Digi DL
Label: Strangetown Records
Pre-Orders 12/10/2018

— super furry animals (@superfurry) September 27, 2018

groovypanda, Thursday, 27 September 2018 09:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink


imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 09:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

a live album maybe even the best-case scenario but still

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 09:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Don't think they've ever officially released any of their Peel sessions et al so assume they will be on here

groovypanda, Thursday, 27 September 2018 10:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Pass. They’re ok live with some excellent highlights. Certainly not something I need five discs of. Well, that’ll teach me for falling for this cycle again.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 September 2018 12:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

One new song

Cian pressing the demo button on his Yamaha

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 September 2018 12:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Remastered BBC session recordings of the legendary Super Furry Animals, covering their emergence in 1996 to the period of major label excess of the early noughties, are being released by the band in remastered form across a deluxe vinyl box set. Courtesy of Strangetown Records and released on Fri 23 November 2018, Super Furry Animals at the BBC covers eight rare sessions recorded especially for BBC Radio One, including one unreleased song. A super limited edition vinyl set, the CD release and digital versions will also include three tracks from their heroic return to Cardiff in 1999 to play the cavernous Cardiff Indoor Arena.

Limited to just 400 vinyl box sets, brand new artwork developed from concept to stunning reality by long-term collaborator Mark James covers not only the external, printed box, but an individual sleeve for each of yeti in the band, with two, new illustrations by Pete Fowler also featured. The package comes with a foil-blocked 12” print and a separate insert of liner notes, featuring an essay by Uncut magazine journalist, Tom Pinnock, where the band and BBC studio engineer, Simon Askew, recall the day the Furries met Leo Sayer amongst other insights. The 37 tracks are pressed onto 180g vinyl following a thorough spring clean of the original recordings.

An additional, super limited edition vinyl box set of just 100 copies includes a specially-produced, fifth vinyl disc, which has pushed the boundaries of vinyl pressing to include the live tracks and an ‘additional cut’ of soon-to-be-sought-after ‘SFA DNA’. Details are soon to be announced alongside confirmed track listing, with collectors advised to link up with the band across social media and at Pledge Music for advance ordering details in the meantime

In an ongoing period of archival and re-evaluation, the Furries have worked side-by-side with the band’s curatorial collaborator, Kliph Scurlock and mastering maestro, Donal Whelan to restore recordings made for John Peel, Mark Radcliffe and Steve Lamacq and Jo Whiley’s Evening Session to pristine condition. In a collection beginning prior to the release of their debut album, Fuzzy Logic, the band’s adventures at the BBC open on April Fools’ Day 1996 with a visit to the, now demolished BBC Manchester studios for Radcliffe and Marc Riley’s Radio One ‘Graveyard Shift’, returning to London and the legendary Maida Vale studios just ten days later for their debut Evening Session recording. Their adventures continued to include three encounters with the late John Peel, including one session at his Peel Acres home in July 2001.

“We got to see some of his records,” Gruff Rhys explains in the accompanying text, telling Pinnock: “I think he’d had new foundations put in because the records were so heavy – he had thousands and thousands and thousands.” Drummer, Daf Ieuan recalled: “I remember Peel saying they had a swimming pool and it was named after whatever voiceover he’d done to get the money, something like the Twix Swimming Pool.”

The BBC sessions were performed in support of the releases of their first album and follow ups Radiator, Guerilla, Mwng and Rings Around the World with rare live versions, alternative takes and faithfully-performed favourites from each included in the collection. Three songs from their December 1999 homecoming at the CIA, concluding the Guerilla Tour, are included as a record of not only the Furries’ ascension to arena-status, but of their fearless, future-facing approach to all aspects of music, having performed the show in surround sound and broadcast the event live to fans around the world via the internet.
A band statement ahead of the release says:

“The five, excitable kids of the Super Furry Animals saw many wonders of the modern world through our innocent eyes, but finding ourselves playing songs in John Peel’s home, or in the carpeted muffle of Maida Vale, elevated the experience to new levels. Our thanks go to those rescuing the recordings from our dusty lofts, Kliph Scurlock and Donal Whelan, and the surgical attention to detail by the great artistic minds of Mark James and Pete Fowler. Also, long live public broadcasting.”
Super Furry Animals At The BBC follows the vinyl, CD and digital remastered re-issues of their top twenty albums, Mwng (2015, Domino Recordings), Fuzzy Logic (2016, BMG Records) and Radiator (2017, BMG Records), as well as a refreshed ‘best of’ compilation album, ZOOM! (2016, BMG Records).

The Super Furry Animals were and remain: Huw Bunford (guitars and vocals), Cian Ciarán (keys, synths, vocals), Daf Ieuan (drums and vocals), Guto Pryce (bass) and Gruff Rhys (guitars and vocals).

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 September 2018 14:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

not even a proper live album. total cashgrab

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 14:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It's just hard for me to believe there's much demand for something like this. I consider myself a pretty die hard fan, but I'm not paying for an expensive box set of radio sessions.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 September 2018 14:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Kliph just posted this on Facebook:

A note to everyone upset about the announcement of the BBC Sessions box set today:
Maybe this doesn't appeal to you. That's totally fine. There's a reason only 500 copies of the vinyl box are being pressed. Should the demand prove to be more than anticipated, the CD version will be plentiful.
Maybe you want a new SFA album. That's totally fine. However, nobody has given any indication SFA have been recording new music. Maybe a new SFA album will happen; maybe it won't.
Maybe you think this is somehow a cash grab. You couldn't be more wrong. Have you forgotten you're talking about the band that turned down £2,000,000 to license their song to a company whose business ethics they disagreed with? That's right: £2,000,000 in free money that they turned down. Remember when every band was releasing multiple versions of the same single with shitty remixes and demos to fill up b sides in order to sell more copies and go for higher chart placements? What did SFA do? Released one version of the single with solid b sides because they didn't want to bilk their fans, even though they could have had multiple top 10 hits if they had "played the game". So why do you suddenly think they're trying to rip you off? (That's a hypothetical question. I don't want to hear your answer because you're fucking wrong.)
Buy the box set or don't. The box set exists because a fan - me - wanted it to exist and pushed the guys for it, so they decided to make it happen rather than continue to listen to me whine. The costs involved are massive and the band (predominately Cian) is doing all the work themselves. There's no major label machine behind it. Tracks needed to be licensed from the BBC: the band paid for it. The material needed to be mastered and cut for vinyl: the band paid for it. The records, CDs and boxes need to be manufactured: the band is paying for it. Etc. If every copy sells, there's no big payday for anyone, yet if any go unsold, that's money they eat.
Don't want it? Don't buy it. But if you do, you will get something of the utmost highest quality that will make a number of fans, myself included, very happy.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink


Mark G, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

just coz a band has principles doesn't mean they won't do cash grabs onntheir own terms

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Anyway it's less the cashgrabbing that's the issue - people can spend money on what they want - it's the stultifying crassness of all this self-celebration, this recycling

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I mean Kliph worked his way into being a member of The Flaming Lips by virtue of being a mega-fan and a really good drummer. I don't find it hard to believe at all he begged SFA to be their official historian and archivist. It's the way this stuff is being promoted, and the timing, that has made me lose interest. Well, I'll try not to bump this thread with the next warmed-over release. I think I've learned my lesson. All the same, I'm sure some will enjoy this release.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The frustrating thing is that I reckon they have another good album in them somewhere

imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The more I look at the package, the more I want it. The artwork is sublime. Mark James & Pete Fowler are amazing. I would happily slot that in next to the rest of their albums. I just don't really want or need a bunch of live sessions...

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 28 September 2018 14:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's the stultifying crassness of all this self-celebration, this recycling

It's clear that the solo projects are more of a priority (Gruff live at the RNCM a couple of weeks ago was brilliant).

I'd like another new album but since most on this list are of the view that each new album after RATW was a downgrade in quality is that what you're after imago?

I listened through the Radiator reissue yesterday and while it wasn't earth shattering in content it did do a nice job of pulling together all the other material from that era.

I get your frustration I think but to dismiss the BBC box in the same bracket as the reissues is short sighted as the radio sessions have ttbomk never been officially released. The recordings I've got are either ones I made myself or ones shared on a long lost ftp site linked to the old SFA message board.

The Peel Acres session is top drawer. Has a great version of Run Christian Run after which JP extols the pedal steel. Re: the box set though I'd have loved to see the full Cardiff concert released. The 'SFA Mash up the CIA' boot is excellent.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 30 September 2018 06:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I thought DD/LY was arguably the best one since RATW! Otherwise....fair, I suppose

imago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 10:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i don't think i've listened to phantom power in ten years but my god "piccolo snare" -> "venus and serena"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Maybe they need to make a cash grab *because* they turned down that 2 million pound payoff?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(This doesn't sound like a cash grab, fwiw, just a small thing for fans who want to buy something, like a souvenir.)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

when the person who is doing all the work on the release has explained that it is moderately likely to make a loss, you can probably stop insisting it's a cash grab

Ah, the minty egg bits (sic), Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

There was a period where their social media seemed to be exclusively for flogging new T-shirts and ski caps. I think that’s what caused some of the negativity on the Net.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

They were also g

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Haven't really seen a ton of negativity outside of this thread tbh

PaulTMA, Sunday, 30 September 2018 19:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

There are pockets of it 'in the community.' That said, the community is very small. I think overall people are happy they're still active in some way. I'd take a tour of any of their material in a heartbeat. I just wish DD/LY would get its due from them.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 1 October 2018 14:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Y'know, if he's going to do more of this stuff, maybe I'm ok with the way things are going:

.@cianciaran fought a giant billion £ multi-national in @edfenergy for Wales. Both parties agreed to discontinue today, after it was agreed that the @AssemblyWales will debate & vote on a motion to stop the dumping next Wednesday 10th October.

— Neil McEvoy AM (@neiljmcevoy) October 2, 2018

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 17:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

'Super Furry Animals at the BBC'

Mark Radcliffe Session, Recorded April 1 1996
A1. God! Show Me Magic
A2. Frisbee
A3. Hometown Unicorn
A4. Focus Pocus/Debiel

Evening Session, Recorded April 10 1996
B1. Something For The Weekend
B2. Hangin' With Howard Marks
B3. If You Don't Want Me To Destroy You
B4. God! Show Me Magic

Evening Session, Recorded August 11 1997
C1. The International Language of Screaming
C2. Torra Fy Ngwallt Yn Hir
C3. Play It Cool
C4. Demons
C5. Calimero

John Peel Session, Recorded March 24 1998
CH1. The Teacher
CH2. Phire in my Heart
CH3. Thue Turning Tide
CH4. Y Teimlad

Evening Session, Recorded June 2 1999
D1. Night Vision
D2. Some Things Come From Nothing
D3. Fire In My Heart
D4. Blerwytirhwng?

John Peel Session, Recorded March 1 2000
DD1. DX Heaven
DD2. Ymaelody À'r Ymylon
DD3. Y Gwyneb Iau
DD4. Charge

Evening Session, Recorded May 29 2001
E1. (Drawing) Rings Around the World
E2. Fragile Happiness
E3. The Warmth of the Sun
E4. Run! Christian, Run!

Live At Peel Acres, Recorded July 12 2001
F1. (A) Touch Sensitive
F2. Zoom
F3. Nythod Cacwn
F4. Run! Christian, Run!
F5. Fragile Happiness

SFA Mash Up The CIA, Recorded December 20 1999 (Super Limited Vinyl, CD and Digital only)
FF1. Wherever I Lay My Phone (That's My Home)
FF2. Bad Behaviour

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:53 (six days ago) Permalink

and an ‘additional cut’ of soon-to-be-sought-after ‘SFA DNA’.

this is to be fur from the yeti outfits which has been embedded within the vinyl according to the PR I received earlier.

mark e, Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:22 (six days ago) Permalink

The Peel Session they did in between Phantom Power and Love Kraft is essential listening for anyone who likes this band. Great version of 'Run! Christian, Run!' on that and the version of 'Gathering Moss' is better than the one on Fuzzy Logic, IMO. That was probably the last time I thought this band could do no wrong, so I'm comfortable with there not being a new album.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:53 (six days ago) Permalink

'DX Heaven' is a bit disposable, so don't get too excited for that one. Interesting early version of 'Zoom' that I listened to a lot in the years leading up to Love Kraft.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:33 (six days ago) Permalink

I don't like that early version of 'Zoom' at all - I thought (for years) it was a bit of a half-baked riff in search of a tune and I thought they'd wisely shelved it as a bad idea. When I saw they'd dusted it off for Love Kraft I feared the worst but it turned out to be a drastic improvement.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:41 (six days ago) Permalink

I'm a bit shocked at how much the limited edition ended up selling for--£200! And it sold out in minutes. Can't spend that kind of money on something like this. At least you get a locket of yeti hair!

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 12 October 2018 13:57 (five days ago) Permalink

Saw Gruff last night in DC and it was alot of fun. Only knew one song all night long but he is a pro and funny and his band was the same.

tobo73, Friday, 12 October 2018 15:04 (five days ago) Permalink

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