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are the disappointing sales going to break SFA up??? How come their album didn't reach top ten after good midweek sales (number 7)

paulx, Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Love Kraft just no. 19 in the UK - what the fuck???

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

Cian Ciaran, the keyboard player, just released his album this past Monday. As a long-time fan, I am pleased and even a little bit shocked at how good it is. The LP is just as good as Gruff's solo efforts.

Here is the Spotify link: http://open.spotify.com/album/0br5g7CaWyvJnLZUsrdTmg

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:41 (four years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

revisiting this after not listening to it since release: https://soundcloud.com/acid-casuals/alto-due-pugnali-e-mezzo

damn good track.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Surprisingly, Bunf seems to be the one with the freshest sounding side project: https://soundcloud.com/the-pale-blue-dots

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 12:41 (four years ago) Permalink

https://soundcloud.com/the-pale-blue-dots/aquarium

Loving this stuff.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 18 March 2013 15:18 (four years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

They've reunited...

Super Furry Animals may currently be on an extended hiatus, but the Welsh psych rock icons are aiming to be top of the hops with the launch of their own beer.

Produced in conjunction with the Celt Experience Brewery, members of the band will be stirring up a storm when their new beer – named Fuzzy (after their debut album Fuzzy Logic) is unveiled at a special event next month.

Those who love their beers can taste the new brew at the one-night only Fire Festival on Saturday, February 1. Billed as ‘a celebration of innovative craft beer, art and smokey food’, it will be held to celebrate the Celtic Experience’s new village development at its brewery on the Pontygwindy Estate in Caerphilly.

The Festival will include free samples of the brewery’s acclaimed craft beers and a live performance from the Super Furry Animals – a live brewing performance that is.

Gruff, Guto, Cian, Daf and Bunf – who have been pursuing their own projects since they released their last album Dark Days/Light Years in 2009, will put the finishing touches to their own collaborative beer, which will be available in pubs around Wales and chosen outlets in London in March.

Fuzzy Beer, follows the launch of Goldie Lookin’ Ale – a collaborative beer between Welsh rappers Goldie Lookin’ Chain and Newport-based Tiny Rebel Brewery last year.

“We’re making it with our own specially formulated recipe, although I can’t tell you what that is,” laughs Furries keyboard maestro Cian Ciaran.

“Me and Daf (SFA drummer Dafydd Ieuan) met Tom who owns the brewery last year and we all thought it would be a good idea to make our own Furry brew.”

Although the band won’t be playing live, several members of the group will DJ on the night.

to brew a beer. :\

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/welsh-rock-icons-super-furry-6530196

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:58 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHV_6H2hQnM

American Interior is to come in four formats – a 13-song album, to be released on 5 May, which will be Rhys's fourth solo album; a book, described as "a psychedelic historical travelogue in which Gruff traces Evans' incredible journey from North Wales to new Spain, alongside the tale of his own strange American road trip following in Evans's footsteps", which will be published in late May; a film directed by Dylan Goch, documenting Rhys's 2012 tour; and an app consisting of 100 entries telling Evans's story.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jan/29/gruff-rhys-new-album-film-book-app

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:24 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Loving the new Pale Blue Dots song:

https://soundcloud.com/the-pale-blue-dots/slow-reaction

Also got a new Gulp song this past week:

https://soundcloud.com/sonic-cathedral/gulp-seasoned-sun

Not been a bad year for SFA, if you're not looking for an actual SFA album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:06 (three years ago) Permalink

Shocked, but not displeased, a publisher picked this up:

Rawlins, formerly digital editor of Artrocker, will document the story of the Welsh rock band's rise to iconic status.

The book, acquired by publishers The Friday Project, will tell the story of the band's time signed to Creation Records.

It will also cover their lavish marketing campaigns, which included equipping an army tank with a techno sound system and making plans to convert an aircraft carrier into a nightclub.

Lead singer Gruff Rhys said of the book: "Revolutionary, crazed and beautiful musical events and conversations that originally happened through the medium of a cracked youthful version of the Welsh language in the mid-nineties are presented here for the first time in quality English.

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a577691/super-furry-animals-biography-for-release-in-2015.html#~oHu8lpFCxBKD8T

Also, new song by The Earth. It's really good:

https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/3-baby-bones

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:36 (three years ago) Permalink

I had a feeling Ric would get something like this put out eventually, and given his passion and enthusiasm for the band it should be at the very least pretty good. Why he hasn't gone the whole hog and covered their Epic Records/Rough Trade years too is a huge mystery, though.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:09 (three years ago) Permalink

Vol 2

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:12 (three years ago) Permalink

I just feel like there's, max, a dozen people out there that want to read this story. I'm not complaining, though. I've wanted an SFA book for years.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:25 (three years ago) Permalink

Gruff's book doesn't count.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:26 (three years ago) Permalink

Even though I care the least I probably ever have about this band right now, I'll definitely be still giving this book a read. Partly because I enjoy reading books of this ilk, and partly because I'm interested to see how much depth the book actually goes into. Hopefully I'll learn something new from it, or it'll give me a new perspective on albums and tracks I've played to death in the past. It'll be interesting to see how much it sells, too... I can't help but feel that the perfect time to do something like this would have been around the time of Songbook, and covering the years 1994-2004.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:52 (three years ago) Permalink

It would be annoying to put out the biography and then for them to reform five minutes later

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:22 (three years ago) Permalink

Well, they're technically not broken up... And it seems likely they'll get together sooner than later. So that'll probably happen.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:21 (three years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't be fazed if they never got back together again to make music, and I wouldn't feel much of a loss either. At one point the thought of SFA splitting up would have been incredibly depressing, but I'm really unsure if they've got anything more to give.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:03 (three years ago) Permalink

I don't think they'll ever release an epic album that changes the world, but I think those days are behind any band any of us knows about. Hopefully their time apart has taught them some new tricks. I think it has, but I know you're not really fond of anything they've done since DD/LY.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:34 (three years ago) Permalink

The Friday Project picked up the last two Kristin Hersh album/books, it's not that much of a stretch for them

katherine, Thursday, 19 June 2014 01:56 (three years ago) Permalink

I guess you're right, 'cause I have no idea who that is.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 13:48 (three years ago) Permalink

I meant Season Sun, the name of their album. Oops.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 22:48 (two years ago) Permalink

Gulp is officially out. You can listen on Spotify

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:22 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Got to see Gruff in Manchester a couple weeks ago. It was one of the best live performances I've ever been to, and he was all on his own. The show was equal parts lecture and music performance. I never realized how naturally charming and funny he is.

In other news: https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/sets/the-earth-keltic-voodoo-boogaloo

The Earth's second LP is streaming. The Earth is Daf's band. Someone from Catatonia is also in the band. I know people around here hate Catatonia. The Earth's front woman also sings for the band Slowly Rolling Camera. I think this is a pretty decent record. It's a lot better than the first one.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 14:45 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/sets/the-pale-blue-dots-lots-of/s-eSrBc

Bunf's new album is streaming.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:15 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

The Pale Blue Dots' new album is no longer streaming, but some new tracks available for stream. The album comes out next Monday (digital only). The Pale Blue Dots are also in session on Marc Riley tonight:

https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/reach-for-the-keys

https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/devastation

https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/slow-reaction

Some words from a website called Clash Music:

http://www.clashmusic.com/news/track-of-the-day-2110-the-pale-blue-dots

The ongoing hiatus of Super Furry Animals has dulled one of the most potent psych-pop voices around.

Thankfully, it has allowed the various members of the Welsh ensemble to engage in all manner of weird and wonderful projects.

Huw 'Bunf' Bunford is the band's lead guitarist, but recently struck up a friendship with composer Richard Chester.

Swapping ideas, the pair quickly descended into the studio to lay down some of fragments on tap. Piecing the whole thing together, The Pale Blue Dots were born.

Matching psychedelic flourishes against sweeping arrangements, a Bowie strut with lush harmonies, the project's debut album 'Lots Of Dots' is forthcoming.

Bunf says: "This is our Jekyll and Hyde moment. We love pop music, but we also like to lie down, listen to something, and not have to get up to press 'next track' for at least half an hour. The album definitely has a number of songs that could find themselves on the radio, but over the coming months we’re looking to take people on a journey into sound. By distributing found sounds online, and forming new compositions using archive material, The Pale Blue Dots is going to set out to demonstrate the pure pleasure in just listening."

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:48 (two years ago) Permalink

Also, a new Cian Ciaran single came out a couple weeks ago:

https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/sets/ciaran-wilding

The first track is a cover of a song by an artist I'd never heard of before. The second track features that artist's vocals. I actually kind of prefer the second track

I get the feeling no one around here cares about this stuff, but I hope someone out there might. I still see the odd "SFA ARE THE BEST BAND EVER" on the internet, so I hope this news reaches someone.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:51 (two years ago) Permalink

Not bad tunes in the Love Kraft vein, but pretty inessential. Damn, I miss this band.

hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:21 (two years ago) Permalink

Don't think it's happening until Gruff stops making his own albums. Everyone else in the band is recording and producing their albums together.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 02:05 (two years ago) Permalink

Hi! I'm a lurker and a regular visitor to ilxor and this thread in particular. Super Furry Animals were and still are one of my favourite bands ever since I heard Mark Radcliffe play Hometown Unicorn on his late night BBC Radio One show. I can remembering him marvelling at the guitar solo on the song.

I've really enjoyed watching Gruff's solo shows since his first solo record, he's become a really engaging and entertaining performer. I wonder if the band got back together again would the live shows be a lot more interesting than they used to be. I can remember a show on the Phantom Power tour being a bit hard going with too many slow and midpaced songs all in a row.

I'm looking forward to hearing Bunf's record and am hoping that it gets released on vinyl or at least CD, the clips I've heard sound great. From that Clash interview it sounds like they're trying to do something interesting.

calimero, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:50 (two years ago) Permalink

ha! i was just subjecting my coworkers to Love Kraft and Hey Venus yesterday!

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:09 (two years ago) Permalink

Calimero, I agree that Gruff's solo show is a lot better than many of the SFA shows I've been to. Two of his shows were some of the most memorable I've ever been to. The first one was a Candylion show that also featured Tony Da Gatorra. He also had some other guys on stage with him. I'm not sure who they were.

The second one was his totally solo American Interior show. My wife, who has almost zero interest in Gruff or SFA, enjoyed the American Interior show as much as I did. He really refined his act for general consumption. I wish I'd seen him with Y Niwl and Kliph Scurlock backing him, but I still loved it.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:51 (two years ago) Permalink

SFA are very stationary and ehearsed and also rely a lot on backing tracks. That's been my issue with their shows in the past. I've still seen a couple really memorable shows. The one where they wore those fiber optic boiler suits was awesome.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:52 (two years ago) Permalink

I also saw Gruff on the recent American Interior tour in a church, there was a drum kit and amps behind him which made me think Kliph and Y Niwl would join him at one point. It turned out the gear was for the church band! Despite this disappointment it was a great show, the songs sounded fine without a band, and Gruff was an entertaining and interesting storyteller.

I didn't really appreciate Yr Atal Genhedlaeth until I saw Gruff play a gig for it a few months later and then saw how he builds up the title track. It was interesting to see him play it again, and slightly differently, on this recent tour.

Like your wife, my partner had zero interest in the band, but now loves him after seeing a few of his gigs, the two films and an American Interior q&a. I don't think that would have happened if I'd taken her to a few regular SFA shows!

Gulp and The Earth recently played my town but I will was too lazy to see them, has anyone here seen either of the two bands live?

calimero, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:52 (two years ago) Permalink

I have not seen either band. I hear Gulp is pretty good live. There are a couple nice videos online. I'm sure it's a lot more stationary than a Gruff show. I don't know much about The Earth, but I will say I really enjoyed their new album (I said that already, I think). It sounds much fuller and more varied than their first LP. I know it's not an essential release, and the vocals aren't going to pull in a lot of SFA fans, but I recommend it.

Strangetown, the record label that's put out all this other stuff, just sent .wavs of the new Pale Blue Dots album. It's unfortunately extremely short (under half an hour), but I love the whole thing. I never knew how much Bunf contributed to the band's sound. I always kind of at Gruff and Cian as the holy alliance. Honestly, The Pale Blue Dots' album comes closest to capturing the sound I fell in love with so many years ago. I understand that they are going to record more songs in the studio, so I guess Lots of Dots is more of an EP than an LP. There is an odd dance-y track with Bunf on lead vocals at the end of the album that I did not expect to like, but I can't get it out of my head.

I guess I have to give Richard Chester some credit, too. There are some great strings on the album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09 (two years ago) Permalink

I always kind of viewed*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y22dwqhMXSU

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:11 (two years ago) Permalink

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p029nbdr

The Pale Blue Dots sounded kind of rough on their first outing, but they'd only rehearsed the night before. I enjoyed Daf coming in with his "Ice Hockey Hair" drums every couple minutes.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 31 October 2014 13:56 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've had a similar new found appreciation for Bunf's contribution to the band. These days I'm able to recognise his voice more easily!

calimero, Friday, 31 October 2014 17:51 (two years ago) Permalink

I never realized how prominent Cian's voice is on certain songs. Take for instance "Chewing Chewing Gum." It's almost his first lead vocal.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:06 (two years ago) Permalink

The Pale Blue Dots' album is streaming again (it's officially out today):

https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/sets/the-pale-blue-dots-lots-of

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 3 November 2014 14:45 (two years ago) Permalink

I stole a fuse from their tank at Phoenix Festival 1996. Not many bands you can say that about tbh,

Willl, Monday, 3 November 2014 22:00 (two years ago) Permalink

Can we just say they've split up now yet?

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:46 (two years ago) Permalink

If gruff embarks on another multimedia extravagnza, sure. All the rest of them are recording, producing and releasing their music together.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 01:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Can we just say they've split up now yet?

― PaulTMA, Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:46 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In my mind, they pretty much have.

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:31 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm still in denial. If they announced it, it would feel like when Supergrass split up. A band that always seemed to be there putting out good to great albums every couple of years. Both bands that make me incredibly nostalgic.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:50 (two years ago) Permalink

If they were split it up, wouldn't they just say they're split up? Gruff keeps insisting there'll be a 10th album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 15:33 (two years ago) Permalink

From what it sounds like, it doesn't seem like any of the band members have or are aware of any concrete plans for Super Furry Animals, and none of them seem particularly enthusiastic about it either, which makes me feel that the ship as sailed. I can't help but get the impression that there's a gulf between Gruff and the rest of the band, too. If they have split up and they're keeping quiet about it, then that's somewhat of a shrewd move, really. People will be more accepting of/tolerate even the shittiest of solo products if they feel a new Super Furry Animals album is eventually going to happen: like "hmm, yeah, okay this Neon Neon/Cian/Earth/Pale Blue Dots album is a bit shit, but that's okay, they'll get around to giving us the real stuff soon". Remember also that Blur never actually announced that they'd "split up" either following Think Tank, but they may as well have done for all that's happened since.

I'm still in denial. If they announced it, it would feel like when Supergrass split up. A band that always seemed to be there putting out good to great albums every couple of years. Both bands that make me incredibly nostalgic.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

When Supergrass split up, my overall feeling was one of unrealised potential. As good as records like In It For The Money and Road To Rouen are, I still think they had a lot more ground to cover and a lot left to explore as a unit. The album they were working on when they split, Release The Drones sounded very promising.

By comparison, I think the Super Furry Animals have explored every avenue they possibly can together. I honestly don't see where else they could possibly go from here. It would be a good time to leave it, I think. They've already released 10 records if you count Out Spaced as a "proper" album, anyway.

Welcome To (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 20:20 (two years ago) Permalink

Gruff's certainly drawn more attention to himself, with his most critically-acclaimed album and a fantastic stage show. The rest of the guys clearly have their work set out for them. we'll agree to disagree on the quality of the other side projects, though I've never been a neon neon fan.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 23:39 (two years ago) Permalink

Can't say much about Supergrass. I always found them pretty slight. "Alright" is a nice song and their self-titled album seemed to draw more flack than it deserved. I kind of left them behind. I know most that read this thread probably rate SFA similarly, but that's life.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 23:46 (two years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY4HGiMdqE

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 3 November 2016 17:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

A vinyl reissue of Radiator would make me very very happy.

― Kitchen Person, Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:45 AM


Ditto. That plus Out Spaced and RATW are my desiderata.

hardcore dilettante, Friday, 4 November 2016 00:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

Fuzzy Logic remaster is out/on Spotify if you're curious

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 11:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

Single version of Something 4 The Weekend used instead of the album take. Actually don't mind this bit of revisionism

PaulTMA, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

It was like that before iirc - I listened to the FL/Radiator version recently and that had the slower version, put it down to Sony/BMG slackness. It is a better version though it sounded weird in that context.

Am interested to compare this with the original but probably not enough to buy it. I've been happy with the way it's sounded for 20 years tbh.

Enjoyed that film, esp. Guto's look-to-camera as Gruff listed 23 coincidences. Bunf looks terrible though.

useless chamber, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

It's listed as 'U.S. Version' on Spotify, but it sounds like the same old UK single version to me. Did it go on all the US pressings then? That could explain why it ended up on the 2fer. The UK album version isn't anywhere to be found on the deluxe.

PaulTMA, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

perhaps Bunf read this thread

PaulTMA, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:31 (seven months ago) Permalink

scrub that, the album version appears after Death By Melody

PaulTMA, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

Sorry Bunf. Get some sleep man!

useless chamber, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

This is being live broadcast on BBC Radio Cymru at 8pm

Composed by Cian Ciarán, performed by BBC National Orchestra Wales, poetry by Gruffudd Antur.

For 20 years and counting a member of Super Furry Animals, Cian Ciarán comes together with the BBC National Orchestra of Wales to tell a traditional Welsh fable in music. The world premiere performance of a work that has been almost two-decades in development, Cian Ciarán’s first orchestral piece Rhys & Meinir promises a rare, aural experience that encapsulates the drama of ancient Welsh folklore, the envisioned splendour of rural Wales and the innate, musical curiosity of the intrepid composer.

Rhys and Meinir found love in the village of Nant Gwrtheyrn, North Wales and their childhood romance blossomed for all to see. On the day of their marriage, Meinir is nowhere to be found and the mystery leads Rhys into months of despair. When finally a thunder strike reveals Meinir’s final hiding place, Rhys is unable to live a second longer.

Supported by Arts Council Wales and the PRS for Music Foundation

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the US version swapped out the original album version of 'Something For The Weekend' for the single version, even at the time.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 4 November 2016 13:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

The remasters don't sound much different to me, but I'm listening on low budget earbuds on a laptop. Someone with a better system might want to chime in.

The "if You Don't Want Me to Destroy You" and "Mario Man" demos are pretty interesting. There's a different chorus on "Destroy."

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 15:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

I did notice two or three seconds of extra noise at the end of "God! Show Me Magic," however, so I guess Gruff told the truth about something.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 15:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

Cian's composition in full: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0380rs6

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

If you're interested, Kliph is giving pretty thorough and interesting answers to questions about the remasters and the SFA vault.

https://m.reddit.com/r/superfurryanimals/comments/5b36qa/qa_kliph_scurlock_answers_your_questions_about/?compact=true

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 5 November 2016 18:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yeah. Like that sort of thing..

Mark G, Sunday, 6 November 2016 09:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

Preserving what they did originally is priority number one to me.

He says, after detailing a series of unneccessary, revisionist changes to Fuzzy Logic. I'm all for demos/unreleased tracks, but I hate this kind of revisionist bullshit. I'll be sticking with the 1996 original - it still sounds fine.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 6 November 2016 12:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

or: he details a bunch of minor decisions made in reconstructing edits and crossfades between songs, and one extended outro.

sad, hombres (sic), Sunday, 6 November 2016 13:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

Does anybody know why Radiator was mixed with so little bass?

MaresNest, Sunday, 6 November 2016 13:23 (seven months ago) Permalink

x-post:

Those sort of changes are still unnecessary, IMO. Just bring the overall sound up to scratch and put out the unreleased/demo stuff, that's all that needs doing.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 6 November 2016 13:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

They're not changes per se, though, and absolutely not unnecessary - he's having to MAKE the edits and crossfades and such as part of the mastering, and reckons it would be harder to replicate the poor-quality (in his assessment of the technology of the time, compared to today) edits than to make ones that sound good to him, and have the fannish bonus of containing little bits of music that the old version didn't.

If you don't want to hear them, that's fine! I'm almost certainly never going to buy these, but if I had disposable income and a good stereo, it would probably feel a little more worthwhile re-purchasing everything if I knew there were tiny little Easter eggs, representing the care and thought put into the project by the guy doing the remastering.

sad, hombres (sic), Sunday, 6 November 2016 14:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

Honestly, the only noticeable change was putting "Something 4" into the track list rather than the original. I happen to prefer it to the original studio version so it doesn't bother me; it's also how the original US version is sequenced.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 6 November 2016 16:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

I dunno, I'll give it at least one listen when I get around to it.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I missed the show in Norwich. I've seen the set lists and they're straight-up playing the albums from front to back.

I found a poor vid of The Placid Casual. I think Bunf sounds pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go-uCTS2h8k

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 10:37 (six months ago) Permalink

Just fishing right now, however I may have two spare tickets for tomorrow night at the Roundhouse, [we can't go sadly] not fussed about payment, anyone potentially interested?

MaresNest, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 11:29 (six months ago) Permalink

Wd be up for this. Have DM'd you.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:47 (six months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Holy WTF here. Via PR mail:

Everloving Records announces the US reissue Super Furry Animals’ 1996 debut album, Fuzzy Logic, for Record Store Day 2017!

On Saturday April 22nd, Fuzzy Logic will be available on 180g LP with an additional 35 bonus tracks and on 2xCD. Gruff Rhys says: “The reissue is radically different to the original, some songs have alternative beginnings and endings and people will notice the difference in definition, especially in high resolution digital and the new vinyl cut.”

Seriously, *35* bonus tracks? What the heck! No word on what exactly yet but the mail goes on to say:

From the two-decade deep well of their adventurous catalogue come B-sides, a legendary festival performance and demo versions from low-key 1995 recording sessions, revealing the genesis and winding roads taken by many of their early hits.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:15 (two months ago) Permalink

It was reissued in the same configuration in the UK last year, Ned. Yes, there are 35 bonus tracks... 10 of 'em are B-sides, the rest of 'em are demos and live stuff.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice. Well looking forward, then.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:26 (two months ago) Permalink

The "radically different" stuff is just some extra noise on a couple tracks. I don't have a wonderful set-up so maybe I'm missing out on the finer details, but I didn't the sound quality much better/different either.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the most interesting stuff for me was the demos, although I only listened to 'em a couple of times and then totally forgot about the reissue completely until this thread was bumped.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Honestly, and I hate to be Neo Turrican, but this band's getting a bit too comfortable with the legacy act thing. I remember when they were self-deprecating about their first best-of album back in 2004. I won't go into whether or not their later albums are as good as their older albums, but their social media presence has gotten pretty depressing. It's all hawking Radiator-era T-shirts and news about RSD releases like this and the "International Language of Screaming" single reissue. I'm sure they've all got mouths to feed, but I'm gonna be really disappointed in this band if they keep this up...

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 31 March 2017 19:04 (two months ago) Permalink

No you're right. New album or fuck off

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 31 March 2017 19:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Well yeah, this is the thing. For a band that once remarked that it would be all over if they ever released a greatest hits, it's quite something (and depressing, in a way) to see that they've pretty much turned into a nostalgia act, which is something that I would never have expected this band to turn into. I'd always assumed for many years that the band were very much anti-nostalgia and preferred not to be backwards-looking. The thing is, though, I'm not hankering after new music from them either. I haven't even watched any of the footage of the Fuzzy Logic/Radiator shows. I prefer to remember this band as they were in their prime, when they were making ambitious projects like Rings Around The World and making highly listenable, wonderful records like Mwng and Phantom Power.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Friday, 31 March 2017 19:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Glad I caught them live when I did (once at a record store show around Guerilla and then twice on separate Rings Around the World dates), even though all three shows were good rather than tear-your-head-off great. It does all seem very distant now.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 19:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Turrican and afriendlypioneer otm. It's something that's been riling me for the last year. I've religiously seen them on every tour since 1999, collected all the vinyl. Even forked out the high cost of the tix for the 'comeback' show. Which admittedly was brilliant. But when the legacy of that tour is new material in the shape of bing bong (an old studio offcut) and nothing else I'm feeling a little bit had.

wtev, Saturday, 1 April 2017 07:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't want to deny them their opportunity to enhance their pension plans but when it's done in the sort of corporate way that they always seemed to eschew in the past it leaves a slightly sour taste.

wtev, Saturday, 1 April 2017 07:51 (two months ago) Permalink

I suspect Gruff is the one that doesn't want to make more music and the rest are open to it (Gulp is moderately successful, I guess), but if they're not gonna be an active band I'd rather they just say they're not ever making music again instead of exploiting nostalgia. Radiator is going to be reissued and I really hope they don't do another nostalgia tour 'cause I'm definitely checking out if so.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 1 April 2017 11:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Sense of betrayal here is palpable and weird.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Just hate seeing the merch flogging going on on their Twitter/Facebook. It's depressing me.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 1 April 2017 13:55 (two months ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/superfurry/status/848199583473840129

Children's raves with The Orb, acceptable use of social media.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 1 April 2017 16:56 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Another reissue is coming out next month.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B071XBL1SJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497797954&sr=1-2&pi=CB192561891_AA75&keywords=Super+Furry+Animals#featureBulletsAndDetailBullets_secondary_view_div_1497797962411

Interesting to see the fabled Smiths cover on the track list.

Hopefully this is the end of the nostalgia mining, but I do like hearing unreleased stuff.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 18 June 2017 17:14 (six days ago) Permalink

Probably tour too

pic.twitter.com/JhIGi4GhwU

— super furry animals (@superfurry) June 18, 2017

groovypanda, Sunday, 18 June 2017 18:58 (six days ago) Permalink

Man, they already toured Radiator in full last year. I really hope the cash grabs are ending. Kind of a sad way for them to go out. Listened to DD/LY a couple days ago and still think it rips.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 18 June 2017 19:06 (six days ago) Permalink

Nostalgia mining? No way, I'm stoked there'll be a vinyl issue I don't have to pay $150+ for. BRING ON RINGS.

hardcore dilettante, Monday, 19 June 2017 04:16 (five days ago) Permalink

Of course I'm buying it, but it's been nine years since ther last album and they reformed so they could hawk old albums and keep touring old songs? Just seems a little too cynical for one of my favs.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 19 June 2017 11:30 (five days ago) Permalink

I'm not buying it at all.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 19 June 2017 11:57 (five days ago) Permalink

Here's the "cover"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m38RRIx_fY&feature=youtu.be

One of those cases where the mystery was probably more exciting than the reality...

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 19 June 2017 13:21 (five days ago) Permalink

Oh, that's just the three-minute version. There's an eight-minute version as well. lol

https://soundcloud.com/salvolabel/the-boy-with-the-thorn-in-his-side?in=salvolabel/sets/super-furry-animals-the-boy

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:42 (five days ago) Permalink

I remember Gruff talking about this in interviews in the late '90s/early '00s ... it was designed to piss off precious Smiths fans.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 19 June 2017 17:43 (five days ago) Permalink


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