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are the disappointing sales going to break SFA up??? How come their album didn't reach top ten after good midweek sales (number 7)

paulx, Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Love Kraft just no. 19 in the UK - what the fuck???

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

Cian Ciaran, the keyboard player, just released his album this past Monday. As a long-time fan, I am pleased and even a little bit shocked at how good it is. The LP is just as good as Gruff's solo efforts.

Here is the Spotify link:

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

revisiting this after not listening to it since release:

damn good track.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Surprisingly, Bunf seems to be the one with the freshest sounding side project:

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 12:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Loving this stuff.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 18 March 2013 15:18 (five years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

They've reunited...

Super Furry Animals may currently be on an extended hiatus, but the Welsh psych rock icons are aiming to be top of the hops with the launch of their own beer.

Produced in conjunction with the Celt Experience Brewery, members of the band will be stirring up a storm when their new beer – named Fuzzy (after their debut album Fuzzy Logic) is unveiled at a special event next month.

Those who love their beers can taste the new brew at the one-night only Fire Festival on Saturday, February 1. Billed as ‘a celebration of innovative craft beer, art and smokey food’, it will be held to celebrate the Celtic Experience’s new village development at its brewery on the Pontygwindy Estate in Caerphilly.

The Festival will include free samples of the brewery’s acclaimed craft beers and a live performance from the Super Furry Animals – a live brewing performance that is.

Gruff, Guto, Cian, Daf and Bunf – who have been pursuing their own projects since they released their last album Dark Days/Light Years in 2009, will put the finishing touches to their own collaborative beer, which will be available in pubs around Wales and chosen outlets in London in March.

Fuzzy Beer, follows the launch of Goldie Lookin’ Ale – a collaborative beer between Welsh rappers Goldie Lookin’ Chain and Newport-based Tiny Rebel Brewery last year.

“We’re making it with our own specially formulated recipe, although I can’t tell you what that is,” laughs Furries keyboard maestro Cian Ciaran.

“Me and Daf (SFA drummer Dafydd Ieuan) met Tom who owns the brewery last year and we all thought it would be a good idea to make our own Furry brew.”

Although the band won’t be playing live, several members of the group will DJ on the night.

to brew a beer. :\

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:58 (four years ago) Permalink

American Interior is to come in four formats – a 13-song album, to be released on 5 May, which will be Rhys's fourth solo album; a book, described as "a psychedelic historical travelogue in which Gruff traces Evans' incredible journey from North Wales to new Spain, alongside the tale of his own strange American road trip following in Evans's footsteps", which will be published in late May; a film directed by Dylan Goch, documenting Rhys's 2012 tour; and an app consisting of 100 entries telling Evans's story.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:24 (four years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Loving the new Pale Blue Dots song:

Also got a new Gulp song this past week:

Not been a bad year for SFA, if you're not looking for an actual SFA album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Shocked, but not displeased, a publisher picked this up:

Rawlins, formerly digital editor of Artrocker, will document the story of the Welsh rock band's rise to iconic status.

The book, acquired by publishers The Friday Project, will tell the story of the band's time signed to Creation Records.

It will also cover their lavish marketing campaigns, which included equipping an army tank with a techno sound system and making plans to convert an aircraft carrier into a nightclub.

Lead singer Gruff Rhys said of the book: "Revolutionary, crazed and beautiful musical events and conversations that originally happened through the medium of a cracked youthful version of the Welsh language in the mid-nineties are presented here for the first time in quality English.

Also, new song by The Earth. It's really good:

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:36 (four years ago) Permalink

I had a feeling Ric would get something like this put out eventually, and given his passion and enthusiasm for the band it should be at the very least pretty good. Why he hasn't gone the whole hog and covered their Epic Records/Rough Trade years too is a huge mystery, though.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Vol 2

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:12 (four years ago) Permalink

I just feel like there's, max, a dozen people out there that want to read this story. I'm not complaining, though. I've wanted an SFA book for years.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Gruff's book doesn't count.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:26 (four years ago) Permalink

Even though I care the least I probably ever have about this band right now, I'll definitely be still giving this book a read. Partly because I enjoy reading books of this ilk, and partly because I'm interested to see how much depth the book actually goes into. Hopefully I'll learn something new from it, or it'll give me a new perspective on albums and tracks I've played to death in the past. It'll be interesting to see how much it sells, too... I can't help but feel that the perfect time to do something like this would have been around the time of Songbook, and covering the years 1994-2004.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:52 (four years ago) Permalink

It would be annoying to put out the biography and then for them to reform five minutes later

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:22 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, they're technically not broken up... And it seems likely they'll get together sooner than later. So that'll probably happen.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:21 (four years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't be fazed if they never got back together again to make music, and I wouldn't feel much of a loss either. At one point the thought of SFA splitting up would have been incredibly depressing, but I'm really unsure if they've got anything more to give.

...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:03 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't think they'll ever release an epic album that changes the world, but I think those days are behind any band any of us knows about. Hopefully their time apart has taught them some new tricks. I think it has, but I know you're not really fond of anything they've done since DD/LY.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:34 (four years ago) Permalink

The Friday Project picked up the last two Kristin Hersh album/books, it's not that much of a stretch for them

katherine, Thursday, 19 June 2014 01:56 (four years ago) Permalink

I guess you're right, 'cause I have no idea who that is.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 13:48 (four years ago) Permalink

I meant Season Sun, the name of their album. Oops.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 22:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Gulp is officially out. You can listen on Spotify

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:22 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Got to see Gruff in Manchester a couple weeks ago. It was one of the best live performances I've ever been to, and he was all on his own. The show was equal parts lecture and music performance. I never realized how naturally charming and funny he is.

In other news:

The Earth's second LP is streaming. The Earth is Daf's band. Someone from Catatonia is also in the band. I know people around here hate Catatonia. The Earth's front woman also sings for the band Slowly Rolling Camera. I think this is a pretty decent record. It's a lot better than the first one.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 14:45 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Bunf's new album is streaming.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:15 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

The Pale Blue Dots' new album is no longer streaming, but some new tracks available for stream. The album comes out next Monday (digital only). The Pale Blue Dots are also in session on Marc Riley tonight:

Some words from a website called Clash Music:

The ongoing hiatus of Super Furry Animals has dulled one of the most potent psych-pop voices around.

Thankfully, it has allowed the various members of the Welsh ensemble to engage in all manner of weird and wonderful projects.

Huw 'Bunf' Bunford is the band's lead guitarist, but recently struck up a friendship with composer Richard Chester.

Swapping ideas, the pair quickly descended into the studio to lay down some of fragments on tap. Piecing the whole thing together, The Pale Blue Dots were born.

Matching psychedelic flourishes against sweeping arrangements, a Bowie strut with lush harmonies, the project's debut album 'Lots Of Dots' is forthcoming.

Bunf says: "This is our Jekyll and Hyde moment. We love pop music, but we also like to lie down, listen to something, and not have to get up to press 'next track' for at least half an hour. The album definitely has a number of songs that could find themselves on the radio, but over the coming months we’re looking to take people on a journey into sound. By distributing found sounds online, and forming new compositions using archive material, The Pale Blue Dots is going to set out to demonstrate the pure pleasure in just listening."

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Also, a new Cian Ciaran single came out a couple weeks ago:

The first track is a cover of a song by an artist I'd never heard of before. The second track features that artist's vocals. I actually kind of prefer the second track

I get the feeling no one around here cares about this stuff, but I hope someone out there might. I still see the odd "SFA ARE THE BEST BAND EVER" on the internet, so I hope this news reaches someone.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:51 (four years ago) Permalink

Not bad tunes in the Love Kraft vein, but pretty inessential. Damn, I miss this band.

hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:21 (four years ago) Permalink

Don't think it's happening until Gruff stops making his own albums. Everyone else in the band is recording and producing their albums together.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 02:05 (four years ago) Permalink

Hi! I'm a lurker and a regular visitor to ilxor and this thread in particular. Super Furry Animals were and still are one of my favourite bands ever since I heard Mark Radcliffe play Hometown Unicorn on his late night BBC Radio One show. I can remembering him marvelling at the guitar solo on the song.

I've really enjoyed watching Gruff's solo shows since his first solo record, he's become a really engaging and entertaining performer. I wonder if the band got back together again would the live shows be a lot more interesting than they used to be. I can remember a show on the Phantom Power tour being a bit hard going with too many slow and midpaced songs all in a row.

I'm looking forward to hearing Bunf's record and am hoping that it gets released on vinyl or at least CD, the clips I've heard sound great. From that Clash interview it sounds like they're trying to do something interesting.

calimero, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:50 (four years ago) Permalink

ha! i was just subjecting my coworkers to Love Kraft and Hey Venus yesterday!

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Calimero, I agree that Gruff's solo show is a lot better than many of the SFA shows I've been to. Two of his shows were some of the most memorable I've ever been to. The first one was a Candylion show that also featured Tony Da Gatorra. He also had some other guys on stage with him. I'm not sure who they were.

The second one was his totally solo American Interior show. My wife, who has almost zero interest in Gruff or SFA, enjoyed the American Interior show as much as I did. He really refined his act for general consumption. I wish I'd seen him with Y Niwl and Kliph Scurlock backing him, but I still loved it.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:51 (four years ago) Permalink

SFA are very stationary and ehearsed and also rely a lot on backing tracks. That's been my issue with their shows in the past. I've still seen a couple really memorable shows. The one where they wore those fiber optic boiler suits was awesome.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:52 (four years ago) Permalink

I also saw Gruff on the recent American Interior tour in a church, there was a drum kit and amps behind him which made me think Kliph and Y Niwl would join him at one point. It turned out the gear was for the church band! Despite this disappointment it was a great show, the songs sounded fine without a band, and Gruff was an entertaining and interesting storyteller.

I didn't really appreciate Yr Atal Genhedlaeth until I saw Gruff play a gig for it a few months later and then saw how he builds up the title track. It was interesting to see him play it again, and slightly differently, on this recent tour.

Like your wife, my partner had zero interest in the band, but now loves him after seeing a few of his gigs, the two films and an American Interior q&a. I don't think that would have happened if I'd taken her to a few regular SFA shows!

Gulp and The Earth recently played my town but I will was too lazy to see them, has anyone here seen either of the two bands live?

calimero, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:52 (four years ago) Permalink

I have not seen either band. I hear Gulp is pretty good live. There are a couple nice videos online. I'm sure it's a lot more stationary than a Gruff show. I don't know much about The Earth, but I will say I really enjoyed their new album (I said that already, I think). It sounds much fuller and more varied than their first LP. I know it's not an essential release, and the vocals aren't going to pull in a lot of SFA fans, but I recommend it.

Strangetown, the record label that's put out all this other stuff, just sent .wavs of the new Pale Blue Dots album. It's unfortunately extremely short (under half an hour), but I love the whole thing. I never knew how much Bunf contributed to the band's sound. I always kind of at Gruff and Cian as the holy alliance. Honestly, The Pale Blue Dots' album comes closest to capturing the sound I fell in love with so many years ago. I understand that they are going to record more songs in the studio, so I guess Lots of Dots is more of an EP than an LP. There is an odd dance-y track with Bunf on lead vocals at the end of the album that I did not expect to like, but I can't get it out of my head.

I guess I have to give Richard Chester some credit, too. There are some great strings on the album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09 (four years ago) Permalink

I always kind of viewed*

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:11 (four years ago) Permalink

The Pale Blue Dots sounded kind of rough on their first outing, but they'd only rehearsed the night before. I enjoyed Daf coming in with his "Ice Hockey Hair" drums every couple minutes.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 31 October 2014 13:56 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've had a similar new found appreciation for Bunf's contribution to the band. These days I'm able to recognise his voice more easily!

calimero, Friday, 31 October 2014 17:51 (four years ago) Permalink

I never realized how prominent Cian's voice is on certain songs. Take for instance "Chewing Chewing Gum." It's almost his first lead vocal.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:06 (four years ago) Permalink

The Pale Blue Dots' album is streaming again (it's officially out today):

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 3 November 2014 14:45 (four years ago) Permalink

I stole a fuse from their tank at Phoenix Festival 1996. Not many bands you can say that about tbh,

Willl, Monday, 3 November 2014 22:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Can we just say they've split up now yet?

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:46 (four years ago) Permalink

If gruff embarks on another multimedia extravagnza, sure. All the rest of them are recording, producing and releasing their music together.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 01:13 (four years ago) Permalink

Can we just say they've split up now yet?

― PaulTMA, Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:46 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In my mind, they pretty much have.

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:31 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm still in denial. If they announced it, it would feel like when Supergrass split up. A band that always seemed to be there putting out good to great albums every couple of years. Both bands that make me incredibly nostalgic.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:50 (four years ago) Permalink

If they were split it up, wouldn't they just say they're split up? Gruff keeps insisting there'll be a 10th album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 15:33 (four years ago) Permalink

From what it sounds like, it doesn't seem like any of the band members have or are aware of any concrete plans for Super Furry Animals, and none of them seem particularly enthusiastic about it either, which makes me feel that the ship as sailed. I can't help but get the impression that there's a gulf between Gruff and the rest of the band, too. If they have split up and they're keeping quiet about it, then that's somewhat of a shrewd move, really. People will be more accepting of/tolerate even the shittiest of solo products if they feel a new Super Furry Animals album is eventually going to happen: like "hmm, yeah, okay this Neon Neon/Cian/Earth/Pale Blue Dots album is a bit shit, but that's okay, they'll get around to giving us the real stuff soon". Remember also that Blur never actually announced that they'd "split up" either following Think Tank, but they may as well have done for all that's happened since.

I'm still in denial. If they announced it, it would feel like when Supergrass split up. A band that always seemed to be there putting out good to great albums every couple of years. Both bands that make me incredibly nostalgic.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

When Supergrass split up, my overall feeling was one of unrealised potential. As good as records like In It For The Money and Road To Rouen are, I still think they had a lot more ground to cover and a lot left to explore as a unit. The album they were working on when they split, Release The Drones sounded very promising.

By comparison, I think the Super Furry Animals have explored every avenue they possibly can together. I honestly don't see where else they could possibly go from here. It would be a good time to leave it, I think. They've already released 10 records if you count Out Spaced as a "proper" album, anyway.

Welcome To (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 20:20 (four years ago) Permalink

Gruff's certainly drawn more attention to himself, with his most critically-acclaimed album and a fantastic stage show. The rest of the guys clearly have their work set out for them. we'll agree to disagree on the quality of the other side projects, though I've never been a neon neon fan.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 23:39 (four years ago) Permalink

Can't say much about Supergrass. I always found them pretty slight. "Alright" is a nice song and their self-titled album seemed to draw more flack than it deserved. I kind of left them behind. I know most that read this thread probably rate SFA similarly, but that's life.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 23:46 (four years ago) Permalink

There was a period where their social media seemed to be exclusively for flogging new T-shirts and ski caps. I think that’s what caused some of the negativity on the Net.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:40 (two months ago) Permalink

They were also g

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 30 September 2018 18:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Haven't really seen a ton of negativity outside of this thread tbh

PaulTMA, Sunday, 30 September 2018 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

There are pockets of it 'in the community.' That said, the community is very small. I think overall people are happy they're still active in some way. I'd take a tour of any of their material in a heartbeat. I just wish DD/LY would get its due from them.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 1 October 2018 14:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Y'know, if he's going to do more of this stuff, maybe I'm ok with the way things are going:

.@cianciaran fought a giant billion £ multi-national in @edfenergy for Wales. Both parties agreed to discontinue today, after it was agreed that the @AssemblyWales will debate & vote on a motion to stop the dumping next Wednesday 10th October.

— Neil McEvoy AM (@neiljmcevoy) October 2, 2018

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 17:49 (two months ago) Permalink

'Super Furry Animals at the BBC'

Mark Radcliffe Session, Recorded April 1 1996
A1. God! Show Me Magic
A2. Frisbee
A3. Hometown Unicorn
A4. Focus Pocus/Debiel

Evening Session, Recorded April 10 1996
B1. Something For The Weekend
B2. Hangin' With Howard Marks
B3. If You Don't Want Me To Destroy You
B4. God! Show Me Magic

Evening Session, Recorded August 11 1997
C1. The International Language of Screaming
C2. Torra Fy Ngwallt Yn Hir
C3. Play It Cool
C4. Demons
C5. Calimero

John Peel Session, Recorded March 24 1998
CH1. The Teacher
CH2. Phire in my Heart
CH3. Thue Turning Tide
CH4. Y Teimlad

Evening Session, Recorded June 2 1999
D1. Night Vision
D2. Some Things Come From Nothing
D3. Fire In My Heart
D4. Blerwytirhwng?

John Peel Session, Recorded March 1 2000
DD1. DX Heaven
DD2. Ymaelody À'r Ymylon
DD3. Y Gwyneb Iau
DD4. Charge

Evening Session, Recorded May 29 2001
E1. (Drawing) Rings Around the World
E2. Fragile Happiness
E3. The Warmth of the Sun
E4. Run! Christian, Run!

Live At Peel Acres, Recorded July 12 2001
F1. (A) Touch Sensitive
F2. Zoom
F3. Nythod Cacwn
F4. Run! Christian, Run!
F5. Fragile Happiness

SFA Mash Up The CIA, Recorded December 20 1999 (Super Limited Vinyl, CD and Digital only)
FF1. Wherever I Lay My Phone (That's My Home)
FF2. Bad Behaviour

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:53 (two months ago) Permalink

and an ‘additional cut’ of soon-to-be-sought-after ‘SFA DNA’.

this is to be fur from the yeti outfits which has been embedded within the vinyl according to the PR I received earlier.

mark e, Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

The Peel Session they did in between Phantom Power and Love Kraft is essential listening for anyone who likes this band. Great version of 'Run! Christian, Run!' on that and the version of 'Gathering Moss' is better than the one on Fuzzy Logic, IMO. That was probably the last time I thought this band could do no wrong, so I'm comfortable with there not being a new album.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:53 (two months ago) Permalink

'DX Heaven' is a bit disposable, so don't get too excited for that one. Interesting early version of 'Zoom' that I listened to a lot in the years leading up to Love Kraft.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:33 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't like that early version of 'Zoom' at all - I thought (for years) it was a bit of a half-baked riff in search of a tune and I thought they'd wisely shelved it as a bad idea. When I saw they'd dusted it off for Love Kraft I feared the worst but it turned out to be a drastic improvement.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:41 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm a bit shocked at how much the limited edition ended up selling for--£200! And it sold out in minutes. Can't spend that kind of money on something like this. At least you get a locket of yeti hair!

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 12 October 2018 13:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Saw Gruff last night in DC and it was alot of fun. Only knew one song all night long but he is a pro and funny and his band was the same.

tobo73, Friday, 12 October 2018 15:04 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

RATW finally getting a vinyl reissue. This has been the gaping hole in my collection, so I’m stoked.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:50 (four weeks ago) Permalink

if it was the original album on Sides A-C with the b-sides on the D side I'd spring for it (so basically the tracklist of the US 2CD version except on vinyl), but the single-sided 7-inch idea is lame.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:39 (four weeks ago) Permalink

it’s seventeen years too late to complain, man

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:58 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I mean, they're doing a reissue in the present, so not really?

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:32 (four weeks ago) Permalink

the 7” was part of the original LP

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:00 (four weeks ago) Permalink

(and “they” aren’t doing the reissue)

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:01 (four weeks ago) Permalink

"they" was meant for the folks at MOV. but fair enough, didn't know that re: the original pressing.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:08 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Don't worry, Kliph says they're doing their own reissue as well.

Oh, and they just released a new bobble hat. Not kidding.

What happened to this band? :(

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:06 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Just a head's up: this is in no way authorized or approved by SFA. Music On Vinyl is a legitimate label and do license things properly (and do good work when given good sources to work from), but the band were unaware of the existence of this before someone tweeted Gruff a couple of hours ago. I called BMG, who also knew nothing about it and are annoyed as they're planning to a proper deluxified remaster/reissue when the time comes. BMG are working on tracking down who licensed it (must have been someone at Sony) and what their sources are for this reissue. Best case scenario, the original plates from 2001 still exist and were used, but those were done at CD resolution (44.1/16) and not from the original tapes, as the reissue BMG are planning will be, so buy at your own risk.
 Also, a repressing of the BBC box set is on the way. Details will be announced when dates are known.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:07 (four weeks ago) Permalink

hmm, try

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:46 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, “Side 4” is one of my fave runs of SFA songs, really. “Tradewinds” into “Roman Road” is phenomenal.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:47 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Gruff wanted both of those tracks to be on the album proper, iirc, but others in the band disagreed.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:00 (four weeks ago) Permalink

don't look now, but this might not be the first item of merchandise they have ever released

― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic)

I can't really compare a band that's active and recording and touring new music to a band that releases a new bobble hat every quarter and hasn't released music in nearly a decade. But I guess i'm no longer their audience.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:07 (four weeks ago) Permalink

'Cuz that's what you're doing. If I'm not in the audience that desperately needs a new SFA bobble hat, I'm not sure who's left. I've spent more time thinking about this band and their plethora of side business than I should've, and I just find what they're doing very depressing now.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:10 (four weeks ago) Permalink

is the RATW era supposed to have had studio outtakes beyond the b-sides? I always thought RAtW sounded like a curated sampler pack from a more sprawling record.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:13 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I believe there are a couple tracks that showed up later on, like this Hey Venus!-era B-side:

I recall seeing the title on an early pre-release RATW track list.

They also claim 'Bing Bong' was conceived around then.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:14 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah bit this is the bobble hat that broke the camel's back

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:32 (four weeks ago) Permalink

For Rings Around the World, I seem to recall that they recorded all the B-sides and album tracks in the same sessions, and then the final running order was a compromise. Every band member had a different preferred track order and even a different idea of what the LP was supposed to be. Again, Gruff wanted it to be an excessive 90+ minute experience but others in the band disagreed.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:49 (four weeks ago) Permalink

There were outtakes: 'Aluminium Illuminati' (as mentioned before), 'Sanitizzzed', 'The Undisputed Truth' etc. Some of these were released as B-sides later.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:51 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah bit this is the bobble hat that broke the camel's back

― PaulTMA, Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:32 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not quite, but it's a touch cynical for a band that was always boastful of their anti-materialist views.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:53 (four weeks ago) Permalink

It's alright, though. You guys can have your bobble hats. I've been following them for years and I've just sort of given up on the hope they're a real band anymore.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:55 (four weeks ago) Permalink

It'd been nearly a DECADE since Dark Days/Light Years came out. This band used to release an album almost annually...

― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:08 AM (one month ago)

bands often release fewer new records after they split up

― Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:32 AM (one month ago)

standing by this

there was one guy wearing a SFA bobble hat at the Gruff/Kliph gig in Seattle last month. presumably the audience for new ones is people that still like their music, have disposable income and live somewhere cold.

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:01 (four weeks ago) Permalink

The BBC comp is out. Had a listen to the first part on Spotify and I’ve got to admit it’s really excellent.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 23 November 2018 22:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Few more comments:

"God! Show Me Magic" on the tracklist three or four times somehow doesn't bother me. Song is as great as it's always been.

"DX Heaven" is completely disposable and I have to skip it every time it comes on.

My wife ruined "Calimero" for me. It borrows heavily from DK's "California Uber Alles." Ok, I still think "Calimero" kicks ass and will take it over the DKs song anyday.

Live bass on "Drawing Rings Around the World" is phenomenal.

The Mwng stuff sounds incredible.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 16:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh, and why the hell do they always blow guitar solos when they play live? They don't even do the greatest tiny solo of all time on the "Hometown Unicorn" recording.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 16:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My wife ruined "Calimero" for me. It borrows heavily from DK's "California Uber Alles."

It took you until recently to realise this? I thought this was common knowledge!

(I prefer 'Calimero')

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nope. Had no idea. My wife told me immediately that it sounds like this 'California' song she knows and I kinda figured it out through a process of elimination. Knew it couldn't be RHCP...

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 18:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

They're really not that similar.

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 20:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Gruff admitted the influence of that track on 'Calimero' decades ago.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 26 November 2018 20:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The whole song's not the same, but the 'Calimero calimero' bit is IDENTICAL to 'California Uber Alles.'

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 20:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's not even the same vocal melody!

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 20:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

like yeah it's clearly a reference but let's not get carried away

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 20:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was being tongue in cheek about it ruining the song cuz 'Calimero' is clearly the superior song. I just never caught the reference until someone mentioned it to me.

I was similarly shocked when I found out the main guitar hook in 'The Roman Road' is a sample.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 November 2018 20:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, the Beefheart sample. The thing that amazes me about that is that they got the rest of the track (their original parts) to blend in so well with it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 26 November 2018 20:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

speaking of copying

one of the most blatant, and odd, examples i've ever heard

how did they/he even come across the song they ripped off?

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink


afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink

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