Kelley Polar - Love Songs of The Hanging Gardens (Environ CD05)

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I really like the singing, too. It is creepy in a subtle way.

The Reverend, Monday, 11 August 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Strings at the end of A Dream In Three Parts knock me over every time.

Still album of the year for me.

arghkaybee, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm confused by the amount of love for this album, especially after I just picked up the new Morgan Geist album, which I think kills this one

funderwear (san frandisco), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

both albums are weaker because of the vocals. how about releasing these with instrumentals as well?

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

both albums are weaker because of the vocals. how about releasing these with instrumentals as well?

OTMx18589732495872309458723984572394857!!!

Either that or use the chick from Escort.

Display Name, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm not feelin the vocals as much on the polar album, but i think jeremy greenspan has much more character to his voice than polar reminds. the album is like the love child of junior boys (first album) and metro area, which is why i love it

funderwear (san frandisco), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

strike that reminds

funderwear (san frandisco), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

You vocals haters are nuts!

I know, right?, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

this is great. the vocals are great. the M Geist album bores me to tears.

jed_, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i think this stuff is terribly boring

joe 40oz (deej), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

shut up about the vocals, they're effing great.

uncannydan, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i like the vocals on 'Entropy' with the duet dynamic (a bit Human League perhaps), and the "heroin, cocaaaine" line keeps getting stuck in my head

Annoying Display Name (blueski), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah that bit is great and was stuck in my head for a while too when I first got the album.

This thread reminds me to go and listen to the Caribou remix of expanding universe immediately.

the goose that got the cream (I am using your worlds), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

This is probably my favourite album of the year?

I know, right?, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean, in terms of production i think I Need You To Hold On... is incredible and definitely more original than the new Morgan Geist.

but polar's voice isn't... much of anything. it's not haunting enough, nor is it sexy, it's just too friggin nice, plain, boring... IMO and sounds more like a bad pad vocal on a keyboard

funderwear (san frandisco), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

the use of vocal samples in production i think are brilliant, it's just when he starts saying words that it starts to really bug me

funderwear (san frandisco), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

the second kelley polar is one of my favorites from '08 as well.

tricky, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

ok well the more and more i listen to it the more i can pay less attention to his lyrics and sea of sine waves is hittin the spot

funderwear (san frandisco), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll repeat my desire to have a Kelley Polar Quartet album released with no vocals and plenty of strings.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

the strings on "the rhythm touch" are what really hooked me on polar

tricky, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

How can anyone dislike the vocals on "Satellites"? So frigging adorable.

Telephone thing, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll explain why i don't like those vocals. i'm not sure what it's called but in the first few lines, he adds extra breaths and exaggerates the phrasing. it sounds unnaturally stressed and strained.

"i was maaaade-huh, maaaade for you-huh"

that kinda shit drives me crazy, especially when the voice is weak anyway. i love the music on that track but the vocal is annoying.

Hercules, Morgan Geist, Kelley Polar = all great albums unnecessarily marred by poor vocals.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

This dub guy trips so hard.

This politician really gets the Smiths (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

the vocals rox u r all gay

© 2008 (The Reverend), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i do trip hard re: vocals in my electronic music. i also realize i'm in the minority with my opinion. i didn't like the vocals on Apparat's Walls album either. my position gets even harder to justify when you know that i love Underworld's vocals and New Order. both of which can be pretty off-putting to lots of people. you can only like what you like i guess.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

You're right about Walls though!

I know, right?, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll explain why i don't like those vocals. i'm not sure what it's called but in the first few lines, he adds extra breaths and exaggerates the phrasing. it sounds unnaturally stressed and strained.

keller polar is a classically trained singer...his breathing, and what sounds to you like "stress and strain" is a product of his technique. personally i feel it fits perfectly with morgan's production which you could also argue is "stressed and strained" - the painstaking arrangements are anything but natural. they're a labor of love.

uncannydan, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, classically trained? why didn't you say so earlier. now i love it! thanks!

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

you have great opinions on music, brother.

uncannydan, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

classically trained doesn't mean it sounds good. personally my problem is how long he holds out a lot of the notes he sings, i think it distracts from the short percussive nature of his production

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

hooray for indie vocal tics; long may the polarize ILM

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

You mean like...

ehh I'm not getting this. Am I crazy that this is like dance music with an indie 'filter'? I donno I only listened once but yeah, not feeling it.

― deej.. (deej..), Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:39 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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jaymc, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

chorus of protest: but it's not indie, he went to julliard

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

(For the record, Deej's comment was on a Hot Chip thread.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

fwiw, I love the vox on the Kelley Polar records and can't stand them on Hot Chip records. And Polar isn't trying to be danceable anyway, this is a mostly down-tempo synthpop record. Complaining that it doesn't work as dance-qua-dance music is missing the point entirely

© 2008 (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

My god, people like things I do not and vice versa! TO THE INTERNET

cant we all just get along

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

thought he was a classically trained violinist.

mizzell, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

voice, violin,

cant we all just get along?

jed_, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

fwiw i can totally understand why someone would hate his voice. brotherlovesdub's reasons for not liking it seem like good ones. i like it.

jed_, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Viola.

jaymc, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

this thread needs a voice of reason

kgb (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

i would like to know where synth pop vocals end and indie vocals begin. ottomh i can't think of any other vocalist that sounds like kelley polar and even though i don't listen to much music with vocals i would consider these more along the lines of synth pop.

tricky, Thursday, 9 October 2008 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

are there any requirements for being 'classically trained' or is it just code for 'played violin in high school'?

lucas pine, Thursday, 9 October 2008 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

how about this

At 18, Polar was a prizewinner at the William Primrose International Viola Competition, followed by an infamous tenure at Oberlin Conservatory. By the mid-nineties, Polar found himself in New York City pursuing an advanced degree at the illustrious Juilliard School and cementing his reputation for general deviance...

jaxon, Thursday, 9 October 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"infamous"

© 2008 (The Reverend), Thursday, 9 October 2008 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link

<3 the vocals in Satellites

wilter, Thursday, 9 October 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

"infamous"

Allegedly there was a (very proper, restrained, scholarly kind of) riot during his recital, which was very silly in some way or another. Details are vague.

Telephone thing, Thursday, 9 October 2008 03:43 (fifteen years ago) link

sea of sine waves is hittin the spot

I agree with this. I like the album, have some similar hang-ups over the vocals, but this track KILLS. Opening harmonies are awesome, bassline is is nicely driving, and, hey!, vocals are accompanied by a beautiful vocoder!

altair nouveau, Thursday, 9 October 2008 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought the "riot" happened when he was at Julliard - he got expelled for it.

I think the vocals are great but I can see how someone might not like them. When his vocals are multi-tracked, he sounds like an asian boyband, cracks me up. "creepy in a subtle way" = otm.

Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 9 October 2008 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link

has anyone heard the pearson and usher mixes of Entropy Reigns? I find pearson and usher to be really hit or miss but when they hit it's fantastic.

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link


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