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Can we please talk about 'Are You Really Lost'? I know on other threads this has been discussed, but I think he desrves more. I've been listening to the album since yesterday. Has anyone else heard it? Anyone as excited as I am? What about track 4 Well?

Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ooh, a "rock lobster" sample!

lou (lou), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oops! make that "planet claire". mixed them up in all my excitement

lou (lou), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Though I'm more a fan of the Wellen side of Closer Music, it's been growing on me, especially "The Green and The Red" and "So In Love."

James Jung, Thursday, 25 August 2005 13:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Meant to say Leyers...

James Jung, Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wellen made it apparent that Leyers was responsible for the bulbous melodies in CM (Maria, Departures).

For some reason I had been led to believe that Leyers was doing the vocals, not Aguayo. Maybe it's just 'cause Dirk sounds more like a frontman's name than Matias.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The album is very good< I think.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure the "Planet Claire" bit isn't really a sample, just a quote. "Drums & Feathers" sounds like it could be an Isolee track.

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

on first listen, this didn't seem very interesting to me, a bit samey (like, even considering). but I was working, so not sure if I'm missing the good parts

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Leyers was the somber and gentle side of closer musik?

Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 25 August 2005 22:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Monkey be shit
Put the dope on your head fire
you stick around like a flesh up in your mouth

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 25 August 2005 23:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(I can't get "De Papel" out of my head)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Actually, I would like to take back what I said.

Three or four good tracks, two or three awful ones. Not the best, overall.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 28 August 2005 22:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
Is really "De Papel" a version of Massive Attack's Daydreaming?

nocure, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm guessing you're thinking of the ft. version? I think it's just the MC's voice that does it.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.soulseduction.com/common/item_detail.php?ItemCode=B188298

nocure, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Which means that it too is sort of ripping off Wally Badarou's Mambo.

(That is at least the 20th time I've mentioned Wally Badarou on ILM.)

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I think I might have to get this! If anyone knows of a reason why I should not, speak now... blah blah blah.

To my non-expert ears it sounds really something. Quite different to Closer Musik, but obviously in the same tradition (minimal yet melodic, slow, sultry tempos & vocals). Kind of a fusion of the best things about traditional style house (Chicago/Deep? I'm barely knowledgable about all this really) & minimal/electro-house (Get Physical-esque foggy synth cloudbursts). The first Kompakt full-length I've been tempted by in a long while really!

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 18:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

TS: Ferenc vs. Aguayo in the '05?

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 15 October 2005 18:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What's the "Version" um, version of "De Papel" on the 12"? I've been holding out on getting it from Kompakt Mp3 (Kompakt vinyl is crazy expensive so I try and limit myself to mp3->cd wherever I can) because it's missing that one track.

telephone thing, Saturday, 15 October 2005 18:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

huh.

Multiplyin shit
Put the dope out your head
If I...
Me stick around got a flesh up in your mouth.

dd_____ (dayvidday), Saturday, 15 October 2005 19:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think that this is the worst Kompakt record I've ever heard. I'm not exaggerating!

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

! :-D

*hovers on 'buy' button*

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Only buy it if you've got loads of money to spend on bad records!

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what turned you around 180? the dodgy lyrics?

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah this feels very slight to me. which is a shame because the closer music album is very much the best artist lp kompakt has released

strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what turned you around 180?

1. I'm one of the most fickle people on this board.
2. Maybe the lyrics, yes.
3. it only has two half-decent songs on it.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I can't really afford it this week anyway. Perhaps I'll download it first for once (I've just been listening to those samples linked above).

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just heard this last night and tracks 2 and 3 seemed to bring things around a bit for me after the really bad opener. Beyond track 3, it seems to kind of float along without further development, but maybe some of it will grow on me with a few more listens.

Nowhere near the quality of the Closer Music and Ferenc albums, both of which still baffle me because they're two of the strongest full-lengths in Kompakt's entire catalog, and yet they've both been pretty much ignored (especially the Closer Music album).

But there is no way this is as bad as the recent Justus Kohncke album, i.e. two great tracks surrounded by absolute rubbish....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I love Doppelben! The Ferenc is a real grower.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like Doppelben too actually! Especially the Carly Simon cover.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I am still puzzled by this CD. This excerpt from the press release is hilarious though:

"Anyone who drives faster than 125 will be pulled over, enjoy the journey around 119 bpm, as the sweat will drench your body equally as much if you were travelling this fantastic road at a faster speed and you are destined to come out of it reeking of great sex"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 15 October 2005 22:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What are the "three good tracks" incidentally?

I'll take a guess at 'De Papel', 'Drums & Feathers' and 'New Life'?

The whole thing sounds almost like the exact opposite of the Closer Musik stuff to me, and in a good way. I'll save the tedious explanations why until I've actually y'know, heard it. I'm not going to write this off. I think it might actually be good and there be wrongness abounding on this thread!.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I still really like like album after many listens. Well stands as one of my favorite songs of the year. De Papel,Drums & Feathers,So In Love, and Radiotax;i all I have used in sets I've played. These songs work well as tracks or layers in sets. The only song I find awkward is Are You Really Lost, the chanting sort of annoys me. Still I love closer musik a little more, but I'm trying to not compare the two so much.
xpost I also like Doppelben even the pop songs.

Jacobs (LolVStein), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I liked Kaito more than the Closer Musik album but I guess that's a different can of worms entirely.

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I remember when I thought it was cool Kompakt had a spiky underground English guitar band on the label, broad church & all that.

But that was KaitO. Silly me.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i love this album. press the 'buy now' button! miles better than the justus albums. usually vocals drive me crazy but something about his lyrics/delivery brings me joy.

biz, Sunday, 16 October 2005 03:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I love this one too. Sleek, spartan, empty.

It's the Ferenc album I'm not really getting (I mean it's good but never really leaves an impression.)


Omar (Omar), Sunday, 16 October 2005 07:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i agree with omar. what's weird is that you could use sleek, spartan and empty as negative connotations for the ferenc album and positive for aguayo. it's the beats. the ferenc album feels parochial whereas the aguayo feels open and now.

both doppelleben and are you really lost? are fantastic though. hard to pick between the two.

kompakt is turning into warp. (if it hasn't already)

tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 16 October 2005 15:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ahaha. It totally is already I think.

Especially if you consider the respective mp3 shops & the other labels they take under their wing or help distribute.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 16 October 2005 15:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Now we just have to wait for Thom Yorke to declare his love for Kompakt to bring us full circle.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Next Radiohead album will start with two gauzy foggy tech-house tracks with Thom singing in German.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yet you could still imagine them singing it in a stadium.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

This is great... weird and original!

login name (fandango), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

This album comes in the middle of the electro house fuzz ... like fresh air to my ears.

ifeelspace, Friday, 28 October 2005 13:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Since it hasn't been mentioned before, there's a 5-hour DJ set with Matias Aguayo and Chica Paula at Betalounge, dated January 15, 2005. It's a very nice and diverse set, and if anyone recognizes the track at 3:33, please let know!

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Is that 3 hours and 33 minutes? :)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yep, any ideas as to what that may be?

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'd also like to mention that I'm quite happy with the way Realplayer streams are growing in bitrate these days, that set comes in at a steady 135 kbps, which renders it almost rippable.

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

mmmm yes this album is very very good, much love for "Well" as well.

deej.. (deej..), Sunday, 30 October 2005 03:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

TS: Minimal (original mix) vs. Minimal (DJ Koze remix)

the original kills the Koze mix, in my opinion, but i've seen other people who prefer the Koze mix. they're wrong though, right?

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

orignaaaal for me

t (tricky), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

love both but the OG is so damn greasy in all the best ways

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

def the original "minimal"

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

can i just

http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=6257

"Bo Jack," in fact, has more in common with baile funk than house or techno, utilizing cheap synthesizers and drum machines to craft a tune as catchy Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy"—the song he borrows his vocal melody from.

nagl, RA

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

especially since the title spells it right out

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

eh?

fndgo, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

I feel like I shouldn't have to say this, but Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy" is a cover of the Strangeloves' "I Want Candy", which is a note for note rip of one of Bo Diddley's signiture tunes, "Bo Diddley". Aguayo's tune is called "Bo Jack", as in he's jacking themes from Bo Diddley. The RA writer looks rather myopic in his ignorance of this.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

Especially since the Bo Diddley beat is one of the most basic building blocks of post-WWII pop music.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok, well I didn't get it either, sorry. I guess I have to go back to having an encylopeadic knowledge of knowing stuff about music (or face the disdain of some internet guy) school.

I don't expect anything much from a site which sees fit to employ ******** anyway, most of their other reviewers seem to be sourced from blogs, and it's not like they're making any pretensions towards publishing a book or anything.

fndgo, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Naw, don't get me wrong, I'm not begrudging for not knowing that, just the reviewer, so sorry if I came off as condescending toward you. You aren't the one purporting to be an authority on anything.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

While we're having a discussion about Matias Aguayo's thefts, where did he get the vocal melody for Walter Neff? It sounds so familiar, i'm certain it's ripped from another song.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

For me, the older Aguayo stuff is all about the polyrhythms and the sounds he uses for his beats.

You will like the new album.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

First of All, The Koze remix of Minimal destroys the original, which is very good, but it's no Koze remix.

Rollerskate is great, I entirely fail to see how it's not colourful or disco-tinged.

I thought Are You Really Lost was, in a word, good, but not much more than that (I think the problem is I find his sound design to be a bit more on the... dry side, maybe?), it seems Matias has really injected his music with a lot of personality and flavour over the last few years, onto what's already some quality musical aptitude, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if this new album is amazing.

EDB, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

But the Koze mix just sounds like a generic dance track with all the spice taken out in favor of mixability and homogeny. Not one of Koze's best efforts.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Koze mix is nice enough on it's own terms but it takes out the swanee whistles which is indefensible IMO.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can't abide the Koze mix: there's something about it that just sounds wrong and makes it really difficult to listen to.

eazy e street band (c sharp major), Friday, 9 October 2009 14:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

i love water on my skin, i love to lean against the wind
i love to walk alone at night, i love the city lights
'cos i'm lonely but i'm not the only, 2, 3...
you don't know me - sssh/

I'll never tire of this.

OTM! That song is such a thrill. I think it might be my favorite Kompakt single, period.

Also, After Love far surpasses Are You Really Lost. Does anyone really think otherwise? Looking forward to the new one anyway.

For anyone who missed it, there's a lovely little Closer Musik live set from the 2001 Mutek festival here.

lou, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

Kind of shocked to see so little discussion of Walter Neff on this thread. Best thing he's ever done solo if you ask me.

(Or maybe Pitaya Frenesi with Rebolledo, though that's not "solo" of course)

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Friday, 9 October 2009 15:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

agree about walter neff. so fabulous it never gets tired.

stirmonster, Friday, 9 October 2009 17:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

judgement on new lp currently torn between amazing bumping grooves vs too many comedy voices

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

i'll prob end up filing it alongside mungolian jet set

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

a/k/a one of the best dance releases of the year??

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

ha no, in that the amazing sounds battle with the bits that make me flinch and i end up not going back to it to sort out which are which

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

best dance release of year sooo omar-s for me, and i think the new redshape may end up alongside it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

oh and black meteoric star!!! yes.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

i mean if we're talking house/techno end not funky/dubstep/wvs.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

srsly this aguayo album could be so much better if the amount of "spooky" voices was halved or possibly quartered, that fluttering synth marimba melody at the end of "desde rusia" is pretty irresistible

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

they're a lot better when they actually break into a proper vocal chant as on "ritmo juárez" rather than doing that constant sub-beatboxing shite

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

haven't heard this yet but lex totally otm about the MJS record

on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

The MJS vocals kind of split between awful and intrusive and annoying (Could You Be Loved, Milano Model) and perfect for the record (Creepy, Ocean 0304).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I'm really enjoying this on first listen - I don't hear the vocals as "comedy voices" at all and certainly not in the Mungolian Jet Set way.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 15 November 2009 15:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

anyone go to fabric on saturday?

djh, Sunday, 15 November 2009 17:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

they're a lot better when they actually break into a proper vocal chant as on "ritmo juárez" rather than doing that constant sub-beatboxing shite

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:08 AM (1 month ago)

Beatboxing is sub-Ay Ay Ay shite imo

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

sat 12th december
ALLEZ-ALLEZ PRESENTS
MATIAS AGUAYO
SHUMI (KOMPAKT)
CARGO, LONDON

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

enjoying this record a lot i must say. dew dew dew dew dew dew deeewwww deeeewwww

Roz, Friday, 4 December 2009 07:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's essentially acapella house music, isn't it? I like this record best when there are no instruments involved at all, just the sound of voices imitating the clicks and snaps and detuning pling plong noises you'd treat as standard in minimal. It feeds perfectly into my argument upthread about Aguayo totally getting the inherent silliness and ridiculousness of even the most po-faced European techno.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 4 December 2009 10:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

I like this a lot too. One of the most refreshing records I've heard in a while.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

like this a lot but up there with Are you really lost and After Love? Not quite sure.

Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't really think I've given this a fair shake yet but up to now... hasn't really clicked like I would have expected, am a bit on the fence :/

fndgo, Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

(also)

fndgo, Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Mix:

http://soundcloud.com/sampler_podcast01

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

He does a remix on the new Afro-Colombian comp on Soul Jazz called "Jende Ri Palenge". The whole collection is great, and it's worth much more than a Matias obscurity.

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 11 March 2012 02:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
two years pass...
three years pass...

still nuts, then.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Great track

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:56 (one week ago) Permalink

kind of falling off the mati aguayo train in recent years. will give this a listen later

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:58 (one week ago) Permalink

video better than track

or something, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 17:04 (one week ago) Permalink


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