"Rosanna" garnered more grammys, but wasn't even the best track on Toto IV (that would be "Africa," people.)
"In Your Eyes" endeared John Cusack to a generation, but the album track is only a pale shadow of the "special mix," which never got airplay. (See TS: Peter Gabriel's "Sledgehammer" vs "Steam" for details.)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― patita (patita), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Aaron A., Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
i vote 'in your eyes' (although i'd never heard 'it's for rosanna' before, the only 'story behind the song' i'd heard was that it was some daft metaphor about satan or something)
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― bahtology, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Was he the one who died from lawn chemicals or something? He was a good drummer, those guys were all session-slick.
I'd give this to Gabriel on the merits, but at the moment I'd kind of rather hear Toto...
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
The finger-snaps in "Rosanna" alone make it classic.
gypsy mothra OTM
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Seventeen syllables just in the first line alone, delivered as smooth as creekwater. I reluctantly give Toto their props.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Seriously. It has suddenly occurred to me that I have no fucking clue as to what, precisely, this meeting you all the way describes.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 August 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 18 August 2005 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 18 August 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link
I just watched "Say Anything" for the first time earlier this week, and now I am hooked on that song. If you would have asked me one year ago when I found Toto IV on vinyl at a yard sale which song I liked better, I would have gone with "Rosanna". Even though "Africa" is undoubtedly the best song on the album.
The real question is: Peter Gabriel solo or Phil Collins solo? I am posting a new thread on this.
PETER GABRIEL LYRICS
"In Your Eyes"
love I get so lost, sometimesdays pass and this emptiness fills my heartwhen I want to run awayI drive off in my carbut whichever way I goI come back to the place you are
all my instincts, they returnand the grand facade, so soon will burnwithout a noise, without my prideI reach out from the inside
in your eyesthe light the heatin your eyesI am completein your eyesI see the doorway to a thousand churchesin your eyesthe resolution of all the fruitless searchesin your eyesI see the light and the heatin your eyesoh, I want to be that completeI want to touch the lightthe heat I see in your eyes
love, I don't like to see so much painso much wasted and this moment keeps slipping awayI get so tired of working so hard for our survivalI look to the time with you to keep me awake and alive
and all my instincts, they returnand the grand facade, so soon will burnwithout a noise, without my prideI reach out from the inside
in your eyesthe light the heatin your eyesI am completein your eyesI see the doorway to a thousand churchesin your eyesthe resolution of all the fruitless searchesin your eyesI see the light and the heatin your eyesoh, I want to be that completeI want to touch the light,the heat I see in your eyesin your eyes in your eyesin your eyes in your eyesin your eyes in your eyes
― James G. Wert, Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
No, he just plays bass on the track.
I have now listened to both, and am prepared to render judgment. ::ahem::
Both tracks are irrefutably classic. So it's neck-and-neck through the first couple of exchanges, with both tracks uncoiling restrained verses into soaring refrains.
Point to "In Your Eyes": Jeff Porcaro's tense polyrhythms and Mike Porcaro's tight funk aren't nearly enough to top two-headed Marotta/Katché monster, not with Yahweh's own liquid fretwork on the chorus.
Point to "Rosanna": "In Your Eyes" brings the cool christians on backing vox (Steve Kerr and Michael Been), but one of the "Rosanna" Grammys was for Best Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vox.
And then "Rosanna" hits that boogie-woogie bridge, and the wheels come off, and "In Your Eyes" pwns.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Whereas Tony Levin gives my ears a hard-on.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Ergo, "In Your Eyes," a song that I doubt will ever end up on a cheesy "Best of the '80s" comp. Not least because it's a rare universal classic that wasn't a hit.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― bahtology, Friday, 19 August 2005 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Just listened to both tonight. A mash-up waiting to happen.
PS - God, I love "Cry."
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Daniel Lanois (Lanois), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 10 September 2006 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link
The boogie part is fucking terrible though. Pretty well redeemed by the solo. This thread makes me think I should give "In Your Eyes" another chance, I've always disdained it as a sappy ballad but I don't think I've ever really sat down and listened to it not in the context of dopes fawning over its sappy John Cusack-themed classicness.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 10 September 2006 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hideous Lump (Hideous Lump), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link
amen
― ruddy raleigh and the rickets (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link
I still stand by what I wrote last year. If it was "Africa" versus any of Gabriel's African experiments he might have more competition...
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link
more like lengthy youssou n'dourance test amirite?
― ruddy raleigh and the rickets (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link
(on Peter Gabriel)"beware of middlebrows bearing electric guitars"
― timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, that's the one, where the "You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch" guy pops in on backup vox. I've got the 12", but vinyl is so inconvenient these days (meaning I've got too many CDs piled on top of the turntable).
― Hideous Lump (Hideous Lump), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Doctor Casino (agode...), September 10th, 2006.
Also, those big chords change the key, down a whole step from G to F, but rather than go down, the vocal goes up a (not quite) octave. Totally brilliant.
I unapologetically love Rosanna. I love the horn parts, I love the somewhat silly vocal exhortations near the end, and I think the 2 guitar solos are about as good as "80's guitar solos" get.
― Ash (ashbyman), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Rosanna playing nowIn your eyes is major lam
― buzza, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 06:35 (eleven years ago) link
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lol @ Susan Douglas
― buzza, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 06:41 (eleven years ago) link
Wait a second...did Daniel Lanois post to ilx in 2005?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link