King Diamond - C or D?

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I say very much classic, for Mercyful Fate and his first four solo albums. Everything he did up to The Eye was classic, in my opinion. Then again, I haven't actually heard those records in years, but they'd probably open up floodgates of memories. You like?

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 15 August 2005 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link

classic for the eye makeup alone, more classic still for "Don't Break the Oath"

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 15 August 2005 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i won't let this thread die as long as i'm listening to and totally re-appreciating Abigail, which will be all morning, fuckyouverymuch!

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 15 August 2005 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked Mercyful Fate more than King Diamond solo, but none of this stuff has aged especially well, I'd say.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it classic when you make the exact same face for each of SEVERAL MILLION PHOTOGRAPHS?

Pangolino 2, Monday, 15 August 2005 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I've never seen King Diamond personally ( I'm not struck on their music,) but my two cousins toured with them, and they are fantastic . Shawn & Glen Drover.

Judith Deslongchamps (Judith), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

classic both for fate and early solo, yeah. also superclassic for inspiring at least three metal bands to call themselves ABIGAIL.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 15 August 2005 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I never stopped listening to Melissa, although I did stop listening to it loud through speakers. It's a guilty pleasure.

ugly and mean, Monday, 15 August 2005 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...
classic classic classic classic classic

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

classic for both his solo act and the godly Mercyful Fate

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:20 (eleven years ago) link

uber classic

chaki, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

more classic every year

J0hn D., Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

I have now posted to this thread under 3 different IDs

J0hn D., Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

Is "Evil" not one of the best metal t00ns of all time?

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 03:07 (eleven years ago) link

i don't agree at all that it hasn't aged well. i sometimes wish that the production on those 80's albums would've been less paper-thin, but hey who cares. there's nobody else out there sounding remotely like either king diamond or mercyful fate. i'm just so grateful that those albums even exist. and they keep putting out pure quality. this year's 'give me your soul... please' is nothing short of awesome.

saxomophone, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing says classic more than "I was born on the cemetary - under the sign of the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOUHN!"
"9" was actually surprisingly good too, but overall I mostly care for those first two Mercyful Fate albums. Even though King Diamond (the band) has been quite good for the most part, I never get into the albums nearly as much. Too little rocking, and too much 80s metal (which I realize is a completely silly argument). It's usually fun to hear a few tracks here and there, however. I was tempted to buy the last album after someone sent me a couple of really fun songs off it.

Øystein, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

i thought those last couple of mercyful fate albums were very bland, and not at all on par with the best 90's/00's king diamond albums. but i should give them another try. i recently saw '9' rather high up on someone's 'best of black metal' list, which had me raise an eyebrow.

saxomophone, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, i have no problem acknowledging that early mercyful fate were seen as a black metal act, and that indeed they had an influence on what eventually turned into the second wave of black metal. but to regard their 90's output as black metal (and '9' at that!) just seems a bit off somehow.

saxomophone, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 11:35 (eleven years ago) link

Imagery wise MF inspired black metal, but sonically they are merely heavy metal to these ears.

Great heavy metal at that.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I wouldn't put '9' on any sort of best off list. It's mostly a better album than you'd expect, rather than a great album. I think that whole MF is Black Metal thing is more an argument about history and/or lyrics, rather than genre-properties; as I recall, the anus.com fellows were big on these arguments.
Anyways, I'm convinced that "Gypsy" could so easily have been one of the biggest pop singles of 80s heavy metal. Was there any Wilhelm Tell Overture-metal prior to that song?

Anyhoo, my favorite KD-related album is Melissa (which I always preferred to Don't Break the Oath. It may have to do with it being the one I heard first)
"I'm kneeling, in front of the altar... Satan's cross upon the wall."
Best power ballad ever, obv.

Øystein, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

jamming Melissa tonight

fucking perfect album

J0hn D., Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

I've been blasting Don't Break the Oath all day. I honestly can't decide whether this one or Melissa is better, but I haven't heard these albums since I was a kid so they sound new to me. With ten or so listens I hope to be able to tell because it's bugging me for some reason; people are so split down the middle on those two and I just want to know whose side I'm on.

Reatards Unite, Thursday, 17 April 2008 04:15 (eleven years ago) link

I'm busting out Conspiracy right now.

BigLurks, Thursday, 17 April 2008 04:57 (eleven years ago) link

I'm listening to Mercyful Fate's 9 now, and it's pretty bad ass. I think it was panned when it came out, but there is some seriously freaking cool metal on here.

Jeff Treppel, Friday, 18 April 2008 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

damn old Fate/KD vinyl is fucking insanely expensive

a 1981 Brats rehearsal tape just got pressed that apparently sounds a lot like Fate but doesn't have the eeeeeevilness yet...can't decide whether to get it or not

J0hn D., Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

King Diamond is a huge muthafuckin' C. just wish Mercyful Fate would come out of quasi-retirement.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 17 July 2008 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

Anybody here besides me ever hear the Force Of Evil albums? They were a band featuring the two MF guitarists, Michael Denner and Hank Shermann, put out their s/t debut in 2002 and a follow-up, Black Empire, in 2005. The first one was pretty good, thrashy classic/trad metal, but the second kinda sucked because of stupid horror-movie lyrics.

unperson, Thursday, 17 July 2008 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

I was pleasantly surprised with the debut but never heard the follow up.

steampig67, Thursday, 17 July 2008 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

"damn old Fate/KD vinyl is fucking insanely expensive..."

John, what are you basing this on? The first two are on ebay as a lot for $9.99 right now...

I have those and the early years LP called In The Beginning.

All are AWESOME.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 17 July 2008 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

the first two are easy, it's all the other shit that's rough - the 12"s & some of the contemporaneous boots and that kinda stuff.

J0hn D., Thursday, 17 July 2008 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

I still need The Beginning. for some reason I don't have that but have the non-essential Return of the Vampire

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 17 July 2008 03:10 (eleven years ago) link

aas luck wd have it we bot face=painted last weekjend and a very good friend of mine wanted to be King Diasmon and i ahreed. yo obliviousness

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 17 July 2008 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

hahahaha wtf

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 17 July 2008 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

yeas bring it wtf bi duddley beetledrive

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 17 July 2008 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

ahahahAHAHAHhahaha awesome

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 17 July 2008 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

listening to The Brats...totally fun and cheesy and loveable, like this perfect mix of biker metal, punk, and sorta new wave melodies

my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 16:41 (nine years ago) link

wow this is crazy! the fathers of extreme metal sound super power pop on "b-brains"!

my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 16:52 (nine years ago) link

Classic drunk posting up there.

Dunno if I wanna hear Brats but Hank de Wank is all time lol material.

flashing drill + penis fan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 July 2010 16:54 (nine years ago) link

it's pretty good actually, they got some tunes! it's just super cute overall

my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:03 (nine years ago) link

I just feel somehow like it might disfigure Mercyful Fate a little bit for me somehow but that's probably ridic.

flashing drill + penis fan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:05 (nine years ago) link

hmm yeah i guess if you were super invested in the whole evil image thing, but i don't believe king diamond is in this just two other dudes (not a real expert on MF except for don't break the oath)

my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:08 (nine years ago) link

Not that invested in the woooooh evil thing but yeah no King D.

flashing drill + penis fan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:10 (nine years ago) link

smithy needs to post here

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 July 2010 19:11 (nine years ago) link

I am way past due for getting into this band. I'm going to remedy this tonight.

grab you by the boo-boo and don't let go (kkvgz), Friday, 23 July 2010 20:32 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

classic. I finally got Spider's Lullabye, already had the classics like Abigail and Them. this is AWESOME.

Mercyful Fate were my fav though. wish they'd come off of hiatus, it's only been a 11 year one :(

it takes a nation of will.i.ams to hold us back (San Te), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:26 (nine years ago) link

PLEASE TELL US WHO YOU ARE...

I am the aiiiiiiiiiiiiir you breattttheeeeeee
I am the Bell WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH
I am one million years
I am the Bell WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

King Diamond/Mercyful Fate and Halloween season go hand in hand, man....

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 12:39 (nine years ago) link

King Diamond is in the Brats for sure! think I'll listen to Fatal Portrait this morning

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:05 (nine years ago) link

one of the few classic era KD ones I haven't garnered yet -- Conspiracy being the other, but I ordered it a few days ago! want to dig up my copy of Abigail, what a classic.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:09 (nine years ago) link

I consider Fatal Portrait among his best works! relentless riffage, awesome effects...audibly from the same fit of inspiration as Don't Break the Oath imo

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:22 (nine years ago) link

check this shit out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHrjah3p4PA

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:22 (nine years ago) link

it's like every time I listen to MF, it's like this is the only band that can get me into a "fuck...nobody even close to on their level these days, fuckin' youngsters" kinda vibe. for the most part I reject that vibe utterly but then I consider that once a million years ago some dudes from Denmark got all "yeah, we want our album to sound like this" and I think, fuckin', the balls on these guys. OTOH don't want to get possessed by Satan/sacrifice life & family to him so that's the offset

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:03 (eight years ago) link

lol and otm.

I wish King would reform MF soon. I like his solo stuff fine and the later era MF stuff wasn't as solid but in their prime you couldn't fuck with Fate. they were probably the first heavy metal band of their ilk that I fell in love with, oddly after seeing them on Beavis and Butthead and just thinking they sounded evil and sinister.

i seen a man *plop* (San Te), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:05 (eight years ago) link

I will rep for a lot of later Fate now - Time & In the Shadows are pretty great, the song "Angel of Light" is one of their best grooves. And Fatal Portrait for me stands alongside the best Fate stuff, too - great great record. The Puppet Master on the other hand I cannot get down w/.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:13 (eight years ago) link

In the Shadows is almost as fab as the first two, I'll rate it right up there...I mostly wasn't into Dead Again or Into the Unknown, but I liked "9" a lot despite its sonic shift.

i seen a man *plop* (San Te), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:14 (eight years ago) link

in fact "The Bell Witch" is one of my fav songs of theirs ever

i seen a man *plop* (San Te), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:14 (eight years ago) link

so classic.. The 'Them' album still one of my all-time favs.. The playing on that record is so good. Mickey Dee's drumming-flawless.. I love that record!!!! And the story, are you kidding me?- BRILIANT!

SeanWayne, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:18 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the guitar tone during the break on "Satan's Fall" off Melissa, fuiud

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:08 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah, was listening to Melissa all day on campus

CharlieS, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 19:04 (eight years ago) link

aerosmith is frontin', fyi i saw him break the oath the other day

what do it take to be a legend like noz is? (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 19:06 (eight years ago) link

Abigail is really quite an awesome album. Can't say its sequel lives up to it, but rarely do they ever...

Threadkiller General (Viceroy), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:25 (eight years ago) link

Any albums where he keeps the falsetto in check a bit more?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 18 March 2011 22:41 (eight years ago) link

I hope not!

original bgm, Friday, 18 March 2011 22:51 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

We don't have a Mercyful Fate thread (at least none came up in the search) so I'm posting this here. Yes, it's kickstarter, but a comic book tribute to Mercyful Fate? Count my ass IN.

SATAN IS ALIVE!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:15 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Happy Birthday to the King. 56 years young.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 14 June 2013 21:39 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm listening to Them right now. \m/. I remember once going to sleep with this album and waking up abruptly in the middle of the bonus track "Phone Call" which iirc is just dialogue of King talking to his dead grandma saying "but...you're dead!" and I about peed myself waking up in the middle of that without having a moment to process what I was hearing or even knowing that it was my stereo.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 2 April 2015 02:42 (four years ago) link

Roadrunner box set looks amazing. But it's missing bonus tracks, is there another way to get these bonus tracks on an official release aside from the individual albums?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 2 April 2015 11:07 (four years ago) link

Also a lot of the artwork is supposed to be missing. I don't know if the art is worth fussing over but I like old metal art so I might have to buy these individually.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 2 April 2015 11:12 (four years ago) link

That comic book tribute to Mercyful Fate is nice!

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 April 2015 14:57 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcgK1sx1VLY

My bro listened to this a lot when we were kids. "A mansion if you will" was a running gag on many a long car trip.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 April 2015 14:58 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

the dumb crap I do in my apt - my audition for King Diamond Idol Season 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsgDNpAIpLk

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 01:34 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Right now if you go to Amazon digital music and search for King Diamond there is a song from last Friday titled "In Your Pants" with the single having a cover featuring a picture of pants.

And it's just some computer boice saying something about pants backwards for three minutes over an electronic beat.

What the actual fuck Amazon.

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 September 2019 22:31 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

CUPS WERE RISIIIING

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:13 (two weeks ago) link

IN THIN AIIIIRR

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:13 (two weeks ago) link

AND THEN EMPTIED ON THE FLOOOR-OOORR

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:13 (two weeks ago) link

SUDDENLY

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:14 (two weeks ago) link

THE DOOOOOR WAS OPEN

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:14 (two weeks ago) link

AND GRANDMA SAID

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:14 (two weeks ago) link

"DO COME IN MY LITTLE FRIEND"

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:14 (two weeks ago) link

A theory: If Conspiracy had a different album cover it would be regarded as highly as Them (or higher). Some days I think it's King's masterpiece.

But what the hell were they thinking with that sleeve?

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:08 (two weeks ago) link

wtf the sleeve is awesome

brimstead, Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:51 (two weeks ago) link

It looks like a substitute for a better cover that was banned or something. Like a last minute decision of "fuck it, just put his face on the cover, that'll do"

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 31 October 2019 23:36 (two weeks ago) link

He's playing "The Lake" on this current tour. Also two new songs.

The setlist seems tailor made for me. Not spoiling anything else.

I paid for the VIP because meeting the King, even for 3 seconds, is a bucket list item.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2019 13:28 (one week ago) link

I JUST MET KING.

I AM NOT OK

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 01:49 (one week ago) link

omg!!!

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 03:20 (one week ago) link

Ok the new tour is amazing this is the best show i ever saw i am happy as fuck

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 03:26 (one week ago) link

What was he like?? I would bet gracious and awesome. In fact, if he wasn't those things, don't tell me.

Was he wearing the makeup wen you met him?

Sorry, I'm a KD fanboy, obvs

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:37 (one week ago) link

Super nice. It was a fast meet and greet, so I didn't get to have a long convo, but it was still worth it.

Lol yep, full makeup.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 13:41 (one week ago) link

amazing

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 13:59 (one week ago) link

My god his voice too.

At 63 he shouldn't still be able to do this. After the heart attack/bypass he stopped smoking which helped a ton.

Also this was held at our local performing arts center so there were ushers in uniforms, managers in suits. It was held in the Walt Disney theatre. Down the hall, in the other theatre, The Marriage of Figaro was playing.

Really sad that patrons of both shows weren't in the lobby at the same time.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:08 (one week ago) link

that's so awesome you met him!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:11 (one week ago) link

was it... a dangerous meeting?

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:45 (one week ago) link

I saw him a few years ago and I was blown away by how great his voices sounded (even with his wife helping out behind the scenes), even after heart surgery. Dude is immortal.

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:07 (one week ago) link

feels extremely weird to think of king diamond as an actual 63-year-old human and not an immortal shrieking banshee

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:10 (one week ago) link

oh he hasn't assumed his ultimate form yet

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:12 (one week ago) link

Have any of you tried his limited edition black lager?

Real Compton City G, Thursday, 7 November 2019 02:10 (one week ago) link

Not distributed in FL but i want one

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 November 2019 02:42 (one week ago) link

The yeast used to brew it comes from my longtime favorite Danish brewing company, Carlsberg

adam, Thursday, 7 November 2019 03:16 (one week ago) link

This face i am making is pretty much how I felt all night.

https://i.ibb.co/pyrCVD2/c5fc8e80-72c9-5ae9-84ca-712369719d9f-1.jpg

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:39 (one week ago) link


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