TS: Selling your CDs.. eBay vs. Amazon -- pros and cons.

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Looking at both, it seems that for hard-to-find CDs, eBay is the way to go, and for standard at-least-semi-wanted CDs that are not out of print, Amazon is the way to go..

With the former, you're likely to score more money.. with the latter, you're likely to have more convenience and less worries about flaky buyers.. even though Amazon takes slightly more of a percentage than eBay does.

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But I want to hear comments from people here who have experience in both.

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NOTE: PLEASE don't ask me what I have for sale. I have several hundred CDs, and I can't take the time to list them all. I do what I can to share music with you guys, but I'm about to fall out of work any day now, and -- to be upfront -- I want to make some money. Otherwise, I'd love to do ILM discounts. Also, I'm not selling anything that was given to me for free by anyone here, incidentally, however long ago or however few of ILM it was. I don't write for a living, hence I'm selling nothing that was a free promo, anyway.

donut ferry (donut), Sunday, 7 August 2005 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i really like selling on amazon, its really easy and you can just name your price without having to deal with reserves like on ebay

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Sunday, 7 August 2005 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I think you've pretty much weighed it up yourself! eBay do take less of a cut, but in first 7-10 days of selling on Amazon i'd sold 15 CDs without having to make any effort (no writing up my listings!), most of which i couldn't have sold on eBay.

I'd say keep an eye on the prices on eBay, and if you can get a good price sell on eBay, otherwise go with Amazon.

Michael Lambert (Michael Lambert), Sunday, 7 August 2005 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

eBay has gone way downhill EXCEPT for collector's items. Run of the mill stuff is much easier to sell and usually sells for a higher price on Amazon. The bad news is that the market is recognizing this, and average prices on Amazon (used CDs) are now coming down. The thing that sucks about Amazon is their shipping scheme--it's harder to bury S&H factors when you price your product with Amazon, and their commission rate is much higher.

But basically, what Michael said. And I say this having sold probably 400-500 CDs on eBay and prolly 50 or so on Amazon. I pretty much defer to Amazon these days.

don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Amazon is practically effortless. They do all the pictures and info, all you have to do is describe the condition of the product. Buyers use their credit cards through Amazon's set up, so you never have to worry about not being paid. Also, it's really easy to have Amazon deposit your earnings into your bank account.

For rarer stuff, eBay is clearly the way. I made a ridiculous sum on an old Blood Brothers shirt I wore twice. I guess it was scarce?

Steev (Steev), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Considered Half? Like Amazon they take 15%, but they don't take an additional .99 cents per CD/book/etc that Amazon did last time I checked. Stuff may sell a little slower on Half than Amazon, but you can get more or less the same listing price. I sell a steady stream of CDs on Half. For rarer stuff, Ebay, if only because the % taken is much less than either Amazon or Half. Although I suppose if you don't have an "established" Ebay handle (i.e. with substantial positive feedback) you might in theory get more for a rare item on Amazon. If you do decide to sell CDs on Ebay, list them all at once, to improve your cross-bidding/coverage potential.

r3000, Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link

OOP RARE L@@K

amon (eman), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/paypal/imgEcheck.gif

amon (eman), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Out of curiosity, what is Amazon's take when you sell through them? Is it a percentage, or just a couple of bucks?

van der who (van smack), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i've only done ebay. maybe i should check amazon out for cds. tho, i am mostly selling records now. i just got 300 bucks for a rap single on ebay that i bought for a dollar. so, um, i love ebay, i guess. but yeah, ebay is totally glutted with stuff these days. especially CDs. PLUS, ebay is notoriously slow in the summer. i have heard that some people won't even sell stuff on ebay in the summer cuz i guess everyone is at the beach or something.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i was confused by amazon. don't they take a monthly fee to sell things? i like to use half.com but if you're selling rarer stuff, people don't tend to look there.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

oh yeah i forgot half.com is ebay but less fun, anyway question stands

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Out of curiosity, what is Amazon's take when you sell through them? Is it a percentage, or just a couple of bucks?

15% Plus they charge the buyer something like $2.50 for shipping on a CD and they give you $1.50 of that.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe i was looking at the wrong thing. i thought they wanted you to pay $20 a month? maybe that's to set up a shop or something.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, you don't need to set up a shop. That's only if you want to list things that aren't in their database and upload your own album cover art and stuff. Otherwise anyone can list stuff and if it sells they take 15%.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for the info, Walter.

van der who (van smack), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:41 (fifteen years ago) link

No monthly charges just to sell at Amazon.

Steev (Steev), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:41 (fifteen years ago) link

also consider selling via gemm.com. it's always the first place i go looking if i can't find what i want on ebay..

jimmy glass (electricsound), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Amazon is 15% + 0.99 per CD. So on a $10 CD Amazon actually takes 25%.

r3000, Monday, 8 August 2005 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link

that blows. greedy bastards. paypal are greedy bastards too. or maybe i'm just a cheapskate.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 8 August 2005 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

So just figure what you'd get for it on ebay and add 15%. It's great for all of the things that you don't want to bother putting on Ebay. Uh, but don't list anything I'm selling please. THanks.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 8 August 2005 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I use amazon - so much easier. I suppose it depends on how much time you have, but there is no way i can be bothered with eBay. The key with Amazon is to monitor your prices every couple fo days so that they stay the lowest - there is a useful feature that allows you to highlight if your CD is the lowest priced.

Altho Amazon may not be great for selling rare vinyl, I think its pretty good for rare CDs if they are listed. I managed to sell my Loft vol 1 CD for £70 within 5 hours of listing it, and they have a useful feature where people can say the price that they are willing to pay and you can match this - I managed to sell something striaght away for £30 like this.

The interesting thing about selling CDs is seeing which ones have been deleted and are rare - I was surprised that the Mos Def Black Star CD was deleted, for example.

Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 8 August 2005 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link

The other good thing about Amazon is they take their fees immediately, rather than sending you a big bill when you'd fogotten all about it.

Amazon fees are quite high, but it's so easy to use and I think you probably reach an even bigger market than eBay.

Hang on, that can't be right.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 8 August 2005 09:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Black Star is deleted? that must have been very recent, as i just replaced my old scratched up copy about two months ago.

jonviachicago, Monday, 8 August 2005 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

it seems like black star is still in print, at least in the states...

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Amazon is much easier for buying cds, as they give satisfaction guaranteed. If someone stiffs you, you can go back to Amazon and get your money back. You don't have to deal with the seller unless they don't deliver the goods.

The two times I bought something off of Ebay was a pain and I haven't gone back and that was like 1999.

Put them up on Amazon, I might be looking for what you are selling, as that is where I buy almost all of my music for the past few years.

earlnash, Monday, 8 August 2005 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

The additional layer of protection for buyers on Amazon is nice, in that you're guaranteed to get what you've ordered or your money back. The E-bay model is a mess without a central authority to hold accountable for transcations. And the fraud protection doesn't apply for a low value item like a CD or DVD. I've been ripped off twice, with no recourse but to post negative feedback. First time: shame on you. Second time: I'll never buy anything on E-bay again.

And while I had some degree of good luck/success selling my vinyl on E-bay a few years ago, Amazon seems like such a better way to go for anything that doesn't appeal to collector scum. The percentage off the top works out to be not all that different from E-bay. The shipping fee will cover shipping and the cost of a padded envelope and (generally) leave a little bit to defray the cost of the seller fees.

ng, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, so for those of you who have sold via Amazon:

was there ever a case where Amazon screwed up and accidentally sold "two" copies of one CD you had for sale -- forcing you to tell the other buyer that you didn't have the CD ordered, forcing you to get less than positive feedback? This is the only scenario I fear... as I've often encountered resellers who just never had the CD I ordered in stock... Maybe there are just a WHOLE LOTTA disorganized flakes who sell CDs on Amazon perhaps?

donut ferry (donut), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

no-one pays attention to the feedback on amazon. or I don't anyway. I never leave it either.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't see why anyone would give you negative feedback if you just refund them immediately and send an email saying the item was out of stock.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

no-one pays attention to the feedback on amazon. or I don't anyway. I never leave it either.

If "no-one" = me than you are correct. I take it very seriously, and I always leave feedback. I suffered by going with a less than 4.8 reseller one time.. their site is http://www.caiman.com . They are the devil. They'll completely forget your order. Flakes to the max that will refuse to respond to your emails via other than form letters that completely don't answer your questions. Crooks. It was a nightmare dealing with them. Maybe they're fine if you're just ordering one CD, but multiple orders? "OMG, THIS IS TOO MUCH! JUST RESPOND WITH NONSENSICAL FORM LETTERS." Idiots.

I don't see why anyone would give you negative feedback if you just refund them immediately and send an email saying the item was out of stock.

I wouldn't, but just as there are asshole resellers, there are even more asshole buyers. I've seen "1" ratings for things like "got the order right away, but the plastic wrap was slightly torn".

donut ferry (donut), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I missed this thread when it was started!

was there ever a case where Amazon screwed up and accidentally sold "two" copies of one CD you had for sale -- forcing you to tell the other buyer that you didn't have the CD ordered, forcing you to get less than positive feedback? This is the only scenario I fear... as I've often encountered resellers who just never had the CD I ordered in stock... Maybe there are just a WHOLE LOTTA disorganized flakes who sell CDs on Amazon perhaps?

Donut, I think the resellers you've encountered were probably dropshippers, who have an agreement with a distributor somewhere (often overseas) but don't actually have the stock in hand, and inevitably sell something that the distributor just ran out of. These are the ones with thousands of feedbacks. There are also sellers who, if they see something come up for sale really cheap, will list it themselves at a higher price, and count on a high rating and # of feedbacks to get the sale. When they get the sale, they turn around and buy it from the cheap source and have it shipped to the original buyer.

I've been selling for about a year now — still have a 5.0 rating. I've gotten plenty of sales where I was nowhere near the cheapest price -- I'm pretty sure kyle is off the mark about nobody paying attention to feedback. The average number of buyers who leave feedback is about 12%.

William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 8 October 2005 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway, the reason I searched/revived this thread was to ask sellers... have any of you tried selling with Musicstack? I Froogled a Pretenders record that was never released on CD last night and got quite a few Musicstack hits. Their cut is lower than Amazon's (8% compared to 15%), but there's that $49 startup fee...

William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 8 October 2005 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I am planning on selling off my CDs over the next few months. Is the consensus still that eBay is better for rare items, but Amazon is generally easier to use and less of a hassle, despite the higher commission?

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Saturday, 22 November 2008 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

Fees and Pricing

Amazon collects fees only when your item sells. At that time, Amazon collects your sales price and shipping costs from the buyer, deducts a commission of 6 to 15 percent of the sales price, a per-transaction fee of $0.99, and a variable closing fee. The $0.99 per-transaction fee is waived for Pro Merchant Subscribers.

Variable Closing Fees Charged to Seller:
Domestic Standard Domestic Expedited International Standard

Music $0.80 $0.80 $0.80

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Sunday, 23 November 2008 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

Goddammit, sorry about the formatting. But according to this, the Amazon's commission on CDs is now 15% + a "per transaction fee" of $0.99 + a "variable closing fee" of $0.80?

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Sunday, 23 November 2008 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

Huh. That closing fee is new. Fuckers.

But yeah, Amazon was dead easy back when I was selling off my collection and the bottom hadn't fallen out of the market yet. Sold about 600 CDs and a few books over a year and a half. You just have to be willing to dedicate large chunks of time to listing your stock, researching comparables, writing descriptions. Describe your stuff accurately, don't fudge it or you'll get bad "this isn't in the shape you advertised" feedback.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:17 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I ended up going to half.com. 15% commission fee, but that's it. I'm sure it doesn't get nearly the traffic of Amazon, but making an additional $2 per CD is a big bonus, and I'm willing to be patient.

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

I listed about 100 items at half.com when I was listing stuff at Amazon, and made two sales in two years.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

oh god. How high did you have your prices, compared to others?

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

$3 to $5 above the lowest price, depending on the item. I never tried to beat the lowest price at either place.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm. Well, at least for the first few I've listed, I've kept my price within a dollar of the lowest price. We'll see how it goes.

I don't see myself going to Amazon, though. Something like Yo La Tengo's I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One, for example. There are a dozen people who sell it used at $5, several people have it brand new for $6-7.

At $5, the 15% commission is 75 cents, + $1 transaction fee + 80 cent closing fee is $2.55 that Amazon gets out of my $5. Other cds, like Sonic Youth's Experimental Jet Set (a dozen used under $2), are pretty much implausible to sell there.

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

But yeah, Amazon was dead easy back when I was selling off my collection and the bottom hadn't fallen out of the market yet.

I haven't sold anything there but a few DVD sets and VHS tapes in nearly 3 years. Sorry dude, you missed the real gravy train unless you have some high-priced collectible shit.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

more like selling your SOUL amirite?

Kevin Keller, Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

Jeeeezus. But yeah, you're right.

Maybe CDs will have a vinyl-esque revival 15 years from now?

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nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

I did not! I will check that out. Thanks for the advice, Rock Hardy.

nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Sunday, 23 November 2008 03:00 (twelve years ago) link

Fair warning, that messageboard is the most depressing thing you will ever read.

Hey Kevin, I ripped-to-HD or burned a copy of every CD I sold, so more like turning dead weight into free money, amirite?

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 23 November 2008 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

One small plus of selling on Amazon is that you make a small profit from shipping (about 75 cents per item). So, you can still list a CD for next to nothing and make at least some kind of (very meager) money off it.

Romeo Jones, Sunday, 23 November 2008 03:08 (twelve years ago) link

I just sold that Cardiacs double album for £40 on Amazon (others were asking £70 but I decided not to be greedy). Might conceivably have got more for it on ebay, but also might have got less without a reserve, and as it only cost me £12 I'll take £28 profit without grumbling.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 5 June 2009 05:56 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

ebay takes 10% off all music sales it seems. anyone know a way to reduce the FVFs? looking at my bill from them this months, its pissing me off.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 20 July 2009 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

i dont like amazon cos of their independent seller-crushing moves, plus they seem to take more of a cut.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 20 July 2009 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

amazon seems less hassle ...

djh, Monday, 20 July 2009 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

much less hassle but the fixed fee is large enough for it to make selling cheap CDs a loss-making enterprise.

caek, Monday, 20 July 2009 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

e.g. in my email today (I am liquidating my CD collection):

Item: Hot Shots II [Audio CD] The Beta Band
Condition: Used - Very Good
Listing ID: 0706E2I7XBM
SKU: BJ-W3JS-67EP
Quantity: 1
Order Date: 2009-07-20
Buyer's Price: £1.95
Shipping: £1.21
Amazon Fees: £-1.47
Your Earnings: £1.69

Postage will cost me 90p, so i have made a grand total of 80p on that.

caek, Monday, 20 July 2009 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Here's a CD that is worth rather more (sold yesterday):

Item: At the Movies (Soundtrack) (Audio CD) Morricone, Ennio
Condition: Used - Very Good
Listing ID: 0710E4NS954
SKU: YR-6U21-Q0KA
Quantity: 1
Order Date: 2009-07-18
Buyer's Price: £8.00
Shipping: £1.21
Amazon Fees: £-2.52
Your Earnings: £6.69

caek, Monday, 20 July 2009 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

i fished out a couple of the more valuable CDs and put them on ebay, but life is too short to sell a whole CD collection on ebay

caek, Monday, 20 July 2009 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

discogs

krakow, Monday, 20 July 2009 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

i fished out a couple of the more valuable CDs and put them on ebay

What's your username?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 20 July 2009 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

there's a tendency to try and put cds on amazon so you're the cheapest, which just ends up in a spiral of reducing prices.

i have a minimum amount i'll put cds on for, always use recycled packaging and think that, once you've reached a certain price, it's not hugely unreasonable to post second class. i presume many of the bargain priced cds are posted by people from their place of work.

djh, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

I've only been selling stuff worth at least 10 bucks on Amazon and have made a couple hundred of dollars over the last few months.

dan selzer, Monday, 20 July 2009 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.abundatrade.com/

van smack, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

not posting my ebay username, but just got £40 for a tour CD tonight. no idea why i didn't do this before.

caek, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

does eBay insist on sellers offering free p&p for CDs now, like they do on DVDs? I sold a couple of dvds recently and it really pissed me off that I could no longer even cover my (justified and absolutely fair) costs for this...

Bill A, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

(hmm, why I choose to mix the caps up on doovdes I have no idea)

Bill A, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

ebay.com.au still lets you charge postage for DVDs! (and CDs)

resulting paiste (sic), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 06:08 (eleven years ago) link

does eBay insist on sellers offering free p&p for CDs now, like they do on DVDs?

Hell no! How does that even work for DVDs? I've been selling CDs for like five years and start all my listings at £0.99 - a CD in a normal case costs £0.90 to post first class in the UK at the moment

Pissed Jenas (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 07:20 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.abundatrade.com/

Just for kicks, I went there to see what they'd offer for the Orange Juice CD reissues on Polydor, which are now out of print and going for $40 - $200 in various places.

Their offer?

5¢ each!

deedeedeextrovert, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

the no postage on dvds is fucking annoying. esp when things like dvd box sets arent cheap to post.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 09:38 (eleven years ago) link

not posting my ebay username

No worries - I was asking as a potential customer, though.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

np, i don't actually have anything on there at the moment

caek, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Not Amazon or eBay but Music Magpie. Has anyone, UK based, used this 'service'? I'm considering it, I understand it's better for the 'unwanted' rather than the 'collectable' CD albums. Some reviews sound shocking but a friend sold a few CDs and got a cheque within a couple of weeks, so maybe it's worth a shot. Oh, and you can also put together 'a sales list' and I've just topped £100, so that makes it tempting.

mmmm, Friday, 28 August 2009 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

asked this on another thread but here seems more appropriate:

What's the cheapest you can sell a CD on Amazon, without losing money, assuming postage for a CD costs £0.90 and you're not able to just throw your packages in your work post?

(UK prices)

djh, Monday, 26 October 2009 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

£0.90 + the cost of your packaging + £0.01

WmC, Monday, 26 October 2009 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

£2.50 is as low as I would go when I was liquidating. It broke down like this one, which I apparently sold for £2.48:

Buyer's Price: £2.48
Shipping: £1.21
Amazon Fees: £-1.57
Your Earnings: £2.12

And then about £1 on p+p, leaving me with about £1 profit and a bad taste in my mouth because Amazon were taking more than half the money the customer was paying. Remember they take a cut of the shipping too (for a CD this is 28p).

Details here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=3149301

caek, Monday, 26 October 2009 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

i really hate that ebay wont let you charge for postage on CDs anymore. just means even lower profits than before. and its already low.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 5 November 2009 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

I just put a few dozen CDs up - some of it brand new well known stuff, some of it random crap I can't imagine anyone wanting, some of it whothefuckknows - starting at £0.99, but w/ a message in the description saying 'yeah, if yr buying this in the UK I'm going to charge you £1 for postage, be a sport and add this on please'. So I guess I just have to wait and see if buyers are going to be chancers or play nicely

War On The Terrances (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 November 2009 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

with cds its only - perhaps - a loss of a pound, but they dont even let you charge postage for records, which is more of a pain. maybe seeing 'free postage' will make people bid more or about the same im not sure, hopefully.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 5 November 2009 12:25 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah doing it w/ LPs is batshit and not at all workable. I'm lucky in that I have more or less unlimited free packaging for CDs but if you have to buy 12" mailers those things cost! I guess for whatever reason £0.99 has become a kind of default starting price for so many things and it's a carrot on a stick to idle eBay browsers, whereas eg £2.49 as a starting price totally isn't

War On The Terrances (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 November 2009 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

i suppose ebay want buyers to get records sent to them in card-less envelopes.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 5 November 2009 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Has anybody used fulfilment by amazon? I was looking at the page but couldn't work out how much they'd take for selling a CD for example.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:30 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Not Amazon or eBay but Music Magpie. Has anyone, UK based, used this 'service'?

Anyone tried this? I've put in a few barcodes of stuff I don't want and I got a valuation of around £10.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 18:24 (ten years ago) link

I tried the barcodes of some CDs that are never going to sell on Amazon and each one came up as being worth thirty pence at Music Magpie. I didn't get round to sending them off but I suppose if you're having a clear out, it's worth doing. Not sure I would flog anything valuable via them, though.

djh, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 19:18 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

Amazon have been bothering me for additional information about myself in order to keep selling on .co.uk - apparently they now want to know my passport number or driving licence number or equivalent and may possibly ask for photocopies of recent utility bills and that kind of thing. I found it unnecessarily intrusive and ignored the emails for a while, but I was on the verge of losing the ability to sell there apparently, so I finally had to cave in. Not entirely happy but I did sell a s/h SACD for £30 last night that I originally paid £1 for, so not all is lost!

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Saturday, 28 March 2015 20:17 (six years ago) link

Go "Discogs" is my advice.

Mark G, Saturday, 28 March 2015 21:31 (six years ago) link

I use discogs too, but if the price on Amazon is right then....

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Saturday, 28 March 2015 23:20 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

I've currently got a book for sale on Amazon (a book I own; not a book I've written). It is seemingly out of print and looking online seems to be being pitched at the £150-£250 mark. I've no evidence it will sell for this and it may be one of those quirks of the internet that someone puts a product up for sale at a comedy price and it shifts everyone else's belief about how much the book is worth. The lowest price copy on Amazon was £174.99 earlier this week it has been dropping as people compete to be the lowest price seller and has reached £72 or so. This could well be handy for the consumer but I'm struck by how quickly there has been a kind of "race to the bottom", possibly driven by automated price matching.

djh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:06 (three years ago) link

Feel like I may have mentioned this before, but I have some acquaintances who used that technique occasionally to reduce the price of expensive items they wanted to buy... they would list a totally fictitious beat up copy on Amazon (trying to describe it so off-puttingly that no-one actually bought it from them) at somewhere around the price they wanted to pay for the genuine copy, then let the algorithms bring the price down on the real copy and hope no-one jumps in before them to purchase it.

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:18 (three years ago) link

the https://keepa.com/ chrome extension is good for figuring out what's going on

but yes, basically it's flash crashes etc. due to algorithmic trading. the WSJ had a good piece on it (paywalled, so here's a link via twitter https://t.co/LbaXCmRqEQ)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:23 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Weird. Just went on Amazon to sell a copy of Aphex Twin's Syro and was met with this message:

New; Used: Very good conditions You are not approved to list this product, and we are not currently accepting applications.

(It would let me sell a Used - Like New copy).

djh, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:11 (two years ago) link

I can't recall the exact details now, but that happened to me a year or two ago, but it wouldn't let me list CDs or DVDs either new or used. I never looked into it, assuming it was perhaps some kind of cutting out of small-scale sellers in favour of the volume marketplace traders. Their cut was always so ferocious and I was sick of juggling multiple selling platforms simultaneously so I was happy to just let it go and keep up with discogs instead.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 2 February 2019 09:27 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

If you'd sold a book on Amazon and it had been confirmed as delivered by Royal Mail (UK) ... what would you do if the purchaser came back to you a month after delivery and suggested that it had never arrived? Book around the £20 mark.

djh, Friday, 30 April 2021 18:36 (one week ago) link

That's awkward. I suspect if it came to it then Amazon would be the ultimate arbiter and from what I see it wouldn't be in your favour.

Maybe the best thing to do would be to ask the recipient (or non recipient) to try and make a claim from Royal Mail. Usually it would be you as the sender but if delivery was confirmed I'm not sure you'll get very far.

Also the buyer may have been patient but at the same time a month is quite a long time if it was just in the UK and it would help to feel out where they really stand.

Legitimate Interest (Noel Emits), Friday, 30 April 2021 19:15 (one week ago) link

It probably wouldn't hurt to try and make a claim with RM yourself but might be good to see first if the buyer is inclined to try and solve the problem which is evidently not your fault.

Legitimate Interest (Noel Emits), Friday, 30 April 2021 19:25 (one week ago) link

I had something similar last year with a discogs sale (I mentioned it at the time on the discogs thread, but don't think I ever posted the conclusion).

I sent an expensive box set to a buyer in France, which was confirmed as delivered in the expected timescale, but the buyer later got in touch to say they had never received it. I raised a claim with Royal Mail, deciding that to do so could do no harm, but of course they got back saying it had indeed been delivered.

The buyer was adamant they never received the parcel, so raised a claim with Paypal, but I was able to respond with the original proof of postage and the confirmation of delivery, so Paypal sided with me, much to my relief.

The buyer must have kept pursuing it and actually managed to get money back from Paypal themselves amazingly. I guess that maybe they were genuine and it really didn't get delivered and they managed to get the French post to admit as such?

I'd say raising the issue with Royal Mail shouldn't do any harm and is straightforward and could be helpful evidence of your efforts to aid the buyer in case they do later make a claim against you through Amazon. Also, make sure to reply to any messages they send you asap, as that would all count in your favour too.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 1 May 2021 16:57 (one week ago) link

On a different tack, eBay are now ceasing to let sellers use PayPal, so every sale will be heading straight into your bank account. No idea why this is happening, it's measuring up to be confusing as hell but we'll see. Sellers (in the UK at least) have to move over to the new system by the end of May. Bye-bye PayPal (for me anyway)!

irked at the fact I know who Jordan Rudess is (Matt #2), Saturday, 1 May 2021 20:19 (one week ago) link

yeah we (in Australia) have already moved over to the new system - I thiiink it is essentially so eBay can offer a wider range of payment options at checkout? eg apple pay or whatever.

after the slight inconvenience of setting it up it works fine. only real downside for me is that my paypal balance from selling also acted as my available funds for buying - at least theoretically! I liked the idea of hobby finances being in a separate pot. ah well.

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 1 May 2021 21:50 (one week ago) link

i guess it’s also kind of tidy that they extract their cut on the way through, rather than billing you a month later when you’ve forgotten about it

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 1 May 2021 22:43 (one week ago) link

ebay owned paypal for a while but then didn't own paypal and I assume that some amount of supporting it was going to cost the company more money than doing it themselves.

akm, Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:34 (one week ago) link


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