Suggest some soul albums for someone clueless about soul

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I just watched a soul programme on this weird sky channel and it was this really weird looking white guy introducing live clips of soul songs.

Marvin Gaye and some other fella doing "When A Man Loves A Woman" both knocked me out!

What are the albums to start with?

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Al Green's '70s work is pretty flawless

gear (gear), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Con Funk Shun's greatest hits, also.

gear (gear), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd recommend Beg, Scream & Shout: The Big Ol' Box of '60s Soul but it seems to be out of print.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

This is exciting. Are you all excited?

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I was born exicted, which is why I have to wear restraints "down there."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Buying a Book by Joe Tex is real good
Eddie Floyd collection Rare Stamps is another favorite

i'm pretty excited yeah

jared>>, Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

"When A Man Loves A Woman" = Percy Sledge, btw.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes!! God that guy was great. His face was so contorted. I need that song.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd love to be more of a help but I bought all of my greatest-hits compilations for Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin, etc. back in the eigthties and have no idea what's the best available now.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Sly & the Family Stone first two albums

carbon (carbon), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Otis Redding Live in Europe.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Are Greatest Hits generally the way to go?

I usually avoid them like the plague for some reason. Maybe i'm a secret indie fux.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

If you're in the USA, you can't get go wrong selection-wise with just about anything Rhino has ever put out, but with the UK, well, I just don't know.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

you don't need a greatest hits for al green - as prev mentioned his 70's work on hi is nearly all great. just buy any of them. if you like it you'll want them all.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Temptations - All Directions

gear (gear), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

johnnie taylor - raw blues

gear (gear), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm in UK Michael. I'll look for some Al Green first maybe.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Curtis Mayfield - Curtis

gear (gear), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Laura Lee - Woman's Love rights: the Hot Wax anthology

Anne Peebles - Best of Hi records years

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Millie Jackson - Caught up

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm going to have to make a list!

Feel free to do any kinds of S&D, C or D bits in here. I did a search but there wasn't much in the way of that kind of thing or POX.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Someone like Ray Charles has SUCH a HUGE LONG career you sorta do need an initial map in the form of a greatest hits album. The Definitive Ray Charles I'm seeing on amazon.co.uk looks like a safe bet; original albums like Ingredients in a Recipe for Soul and Modern Sounds In Country and Western Music are PERFECT, however.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

what was it that you particularly like Hari? the contorted face style? I mean did you like that almost overburdened expressiveness? cos compared to Percy Sledge a lot of the singers mentioned here are a bit more...subtle

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I really liked the passion of it all and how [i]together[/i] the sound was. Like an army of sound romping through something. I don't know.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

And this is why I really liked Beg, Scream & Shout 'cause it was both deep and broad, lots of one-shots and primo stuff by journeymen alongside some of the less over-played tracks by the hall of famers like Aretha, Ray, Otis, etc. -- it reminds the listener that soul music wasn't simply Motown vs. Stax/Volt. Plus you really do have to hear Lorraine Ellison's "Stay with Me."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Not sure what i did there with that tag.

To expand though. In that song it seemed like the song had been building up for an indefinate peroid of time before it started audibly (if you can follow this logic) and the bit we hear i.e the song, was one huge climax of emotion and passion. I loved it.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Like an army of sound romping through something. I don't know.

Otis Redding Live in Europe is pretty much exactly that. In fact, it's emblematic of why people get turned off by Redding -- they say he sacrifices a lot of subtlety in the face of his machine-gun-volleys of him going GOT-TA GOT-TA GOT-TA against those Gabriel horns and thick bass. I say it's thunderous.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Candi Staton's cuts on Fame (which i believe were reissued last year as 1 disc on Astralewerks of all labels) are pretty unimpeachable

jared, Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Defintely any Otis Redding and I have also been enjoying Etta James' At Last! a lot recently fairly canonical(?) stuff but good nonetheless.

jmeister (jmeister), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

There are a bunch of good Percy Sledge collections; get something on Atlantic and Rhino with as many songs as possible, not just a record with 12 songs. He has tons of lesser-known singles that are among his best stuff.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

this is a pretty decent place to start

If I like Innervisions, what else will I like?

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

jaxon otm

i ws thinking abt picking up dinah washington the other day so im wondering, is any of that jazz vocalist section proto or especially soul, or do you need to go to gospel? not a value judgement, just at the time i knew i didnt want more sarah vaughan bips and boops

006 (thoia), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Aretha Franklin's "I Never Loved a Man" and "Spirit in the Dark" albums

"The Essential James Carr," on Razor & Tie

The Rhino Joe Tex comp "The Very Best of"

Solomon Burke's "King Solomon"

Otis Redding's "Dictionary of Soul"

Al Green's "Call Me"

Don Covay's "See Saw/Mercy!" albums, one one Koch CD

And if you got to get one James Brown CD, I'd say it's a tossup between "Sex Machine" or "Funk Power 1970." The "Star Time" box is pretty essential, though.

there's a whole lot more, but along with a good Ray Charles comp (one that covers his career up until he went C&W--the 5-CD box is something I'd shell out the money for, actually, but as long as you got his classic Atlantic stuff you got it), this is what I'd recommend to anyone who wanted to get the picture pretty much as it happened at the time.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 25 July 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link

and oh, forgot--Howard Tate's Verve sides, which Rhino handmade, I believe it is, just put out.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 25 July 2005 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link

edd how cld you not mention bobby womack! i like disc 2, the 70s

spirit, otis otm. i dont know that solomon and dont know don covay at all, see saw tho, i like that, and howard tate

i guess in general im actually more curious abt female soul, soul by women, however youd have it

006 (thoia), Monday, 25 July 2005 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link

006: I'll admit, I'm speaking as a music fan who prefers old soul (pre-'75) to jazz, but Dinah Washington is really the only jazz vocalist from the 40's-50's era who I'd say had soul appeal. Maybe Nina Simone's 60's recordings, too (on Philips and RCA).

If you want to dig into the roots of the roots, I think the next logical step would be gospel. The Consolers, the Soul Stirrers, the Staple Singers (pre-Stax) and the Mighty Clouds of Joy are key.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Monday, 25 July 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Soul was very singles-oriented, so greatest hits comps usually work well - not to dismiss the many great soul album artists (like Isaac Hayes, for instance) or just those who were astonishingly consistent across all recordings (like Al Green for a long time). And to be honest, everyone has suggested some great things (though that Howard Tate release is actually on Hip-O Select.) That Beg, Scream & Shout: Big Box Of 60s Soul thingy was a great place to start - wonderfully diverse and it had a lot of stuff hard to find elsewhere. If you (or anyone) wants to do a little trade for a copy (it's 6 CDs), drop me a line - it's long out of print.

BUT THE MAIN REASON I'M WRITING THIS is to let you know that THE BEST place to start is with the four volumes of Kent Records' "BIRTH OF SOUL" series. Each of these CDs is wonderfully compiled and contains 28 tracks from a wide variety of labels, with extensive liner notes. They're not bootlegs either (they are imports.) You'll get a great sense of where to go from these - they contain a great mixture of rare stuff and big names, but they do a fine job of not containing stuff you've heard a zillion times before - for instance, they've got Otis Redding, but it's a great outtake version of his immortal "Pain In My Heart" and they've got Sam Cooke, but it's his early, wonderful "I'll Come Running Back To You" which isn't on most of his "hit" albums but is possibly his best song. The only caveat to this series is that it's the "birth" of soul and the tracks don't generally go past 1965. Not that you'll care, it's so wonderful.

Kent also issued several volumes of "Dave Godin's Deep Soul Treasures Taken From The Vaults." These have similarly great sound, liner notes and breadth of selections (25 tracks on each CD) and delve from early soul to the 1970's.

One of the things I like about both of these series is that they mix styles a lot and include a lot of women (you haven't lived until you've heard Theola Kilgore's "answer" to Sam Cooke's "Chain Gang!")

You can get all these at alldirect.com for $13.49 each, which is the cheapest I've found on the net.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Monday, 25 July 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

These are maybe not the best place to start, and probably more funk than soul, but have two of the best tracks, ever.

Slave - Stellar Funk: The Best of Slave. (Standout track: "Just a Touch of Love")

Gwen McCrae - All this Love that I'm Givin'. (Standout track: " 90% of Me is You")

cicatrix, Monday, 25 July 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

The Ray Charles 5 disc set "Genius and Soul" is stellar. It functions like a HUGE greatest hits package. Totally worth the money, and the sound is very good.

The Stax box set(s) are also great - you get a ton of Otis Redding, Sam and Dave, Johnny Taylor, Carla Thomas, Booker T. & The MGs and a whole slew of other Southern soul classics. Tastes like Memphis BBQ!

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

edd how cld you not mention bobby womack! i like disc 2, the 70s

yeah, 006--I love Womack. I just forgot. There's a great two-disc set "Midnight Mover" that's almost all the Bobby you need; the recent twofer of "My Prescription"/"Fly Me to the Moon" is also prime, if you want the two best original BW albums. "Safety Zone" is paired as a twofer with a live one, I think, and while "Safety Zone" contains his greatest song, in my opinion, "Daylight," it's kinda spotty as an album. '81's "The Poet" is good, too. So, in the end, I'd recommend the "Midnight Mover" comp, since it has "Daylight" and "Across 110th St." and the cream of the Chips Moman/American Studios stuff.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 25 July 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

"I'd recommend Beg, Scream & Shout: The Big Ol' Box of '60s Soul but it seems to be out of print."

Great suggestion, shame it's oop this isn't as good but it's (a lot cheaper and) a tolerable substitue.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 25 July 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Sam Cooke - Night Beat
Delfonics - La La Means I Love You comp
Chi-Lites - A Lonely Man
Pat Kelly - Ultimate Collection
(snuck that last one in there)

oops (Oops), Monday, 25 July 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I got

Marvin Gaye - What's Goin On (love the sound of this, especially as the tracks run on into one another)

Otis Redding - Otis Blue (Ah this is great too. 'Change Is Gonna Come' is great)

Sam Cooke - Portrait Of A Legend (Haven't had the chance to listen to this enough yet)

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 25 July 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Hot Buttered Soul" by Isaac Hayes and "Bump City" by Tower of Power

SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

SLY AND THE FAMILY STONE HARI

carbonnnnnnnnnnnnn, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Bill Withers, Bill Withers, Bill Withers, ad infinitum:

Just As I Am, Man and Boy, Still Bill, Live at Carnegie Hall, 'Justments.

Rob Upt1ght, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Wilson Pickett, greatest hits or anything with "I Found Someone" on it.

Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

The Impressions' albums This Is My Country and The Young Mods' Forgotten Story are, I think, probably the two greatest soul albums ever recorded. Unfortunately, as far as I know all of the CD releases are currently out of print. That said, the following should be readily available on CD and are totally amazing:
Bettye Swann - S/T (Honest Jons)
V/A - Eccentric Soul: The Capsoul Label (Numero Group)
P.P. Arnold - The First Cut (Castle)
Madeline Bell - Doin' Things (RPM)

Hatch (Hatch), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

aretha franklin "lady soul"
curtis mayfield "curtis"
sly & the family stone "life" or "there's a riot goin on"
isley brothers "3+3"

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave Godin's Deep Soul Treasures all have killer moments on them, esp. the Jerry Williams (Swamp Dogg) productions, the Eddie & Ernie sides, Jaibi, Loretta Williams, and Toussaint McCall tracks, etc., to name but a few highlights. i find more pleasure from southern soul than northern soul, for reasons of grit, greasiness, and gospel passion.
cannot recommend Joe Tex, Wilson Pickett, or Solomon Burke enough.
i spent more time listening to the Candi Staton than the Swann or Hightower comps on Honest Jons.
Sam Cooke "Night Beat" is seconded.

ndb8a, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

That "same tape I've had for years" Sting references: James Brown on TAMI show. That video is dope. JB, Tina Turner, Joe Tex, Marvin Gaye, etc. All spectacular stuff.

Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

O'Jays - Ship Ahoy or Back Stabbers
Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis

Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link

For Ray Charles, you have to go with the 3 disc Birth of Soul box. It has every early track he did for Atlantic, and you get to hear him steadily move from a Charles Brown/Nat Cole-type of crooner to the more modern 'soul' singer we all are familiar with. It's a burning, over-the-top-great set and I'm serious when I say every single track is brilliant.

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
This is great! I got the same feeling when I first discovered soul - I HAVE TO HAVE IT. But what?

So, i found this list of the greatest soul albums, and i found out that I basically shared the list makers taste ('xcept Ray Charles, does nothing for me).
http://www.muzieklijstjes.nl/Mojosoul100.htm

A great place to find out what you like is www.pandora.com. You tell them what you like (in your case Marvin Gaye or Percy Sledge) and the play you artist they find similar.

And, finally, this is a great place for soul: http://www.soul-patrol.net/
They tell you a little about the artist, then play you a whole album! Fantastic if you know an artist name, but are not sure if it is for you.

Kristoffer Burstedt (Asfaltsmannen), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Larry Grogan's http://funky16corners.wordpress.com has taught me an awful lot. He posts CD-length MP3 mixes that are pretty damn flawless.

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

bumping this to remind me to get more of this shit

am0n, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzjziKqVp6k

am0n, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Got this the other day, 'tis great:

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/1/100proofage_somebodys_103b.jpg

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

six years pass...

There's much more great stuff in the

~~~ ILM 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ALBUMS POLL ~~~

ArchCarrier, Monday, 10 October 2016 08:13 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

Just scored a complete copy (carrying case, sleeves, discs & trading cards) of the Rhino Beg, Scream. & Shout! box at a swap meet for $10!

I probably already have 95% of the tracks, but I'd never actually seen one of these opened up before & I'm in luv!

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 November 2024 23:58 (one week ago) link

oh wow amazing, one of my most lusted after objects of the CD era

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 29 November 2024 10:37 (one week ago) link

Ha that first 100 Proof lp is fire, from the champagne persuasion ballad to the relationship as cooking/food cri de coeur. I have to check the second one now.

sparkling hebroic couplet (Hunt3r), Friday, 29 November 2024 17:46 (one week ago) link

Yeah it’s a compilation, but Al Green’s Greatest Hits is one of the most enjoyable slabs of soul imaginable, and the bonus cuts on the reissue make it even moreso.

Glam conspiracist (Dan Peterson), Friday, 29 November 2024 23:09 (one week ago) link


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