dj koze - kosi comes around

yeah, pretty sure its not a sample

digging this album, not a fan of m. dear's vocals, though.

yeah otm, liking this but the vocals on that song are horrific

Not a fan of Matthew Dear in general so am braced for that one in advance. Is this out yet?

out next week, streaming at http://www.npr.org/2013/03/14/174333356/first-listen-dj-koze-amygdala

Yeah I think using Dear twice is just perverse really.

ah he's not that bad. more dull than irritating imo.

he's dull on one of them but actively horrifying on the other

Call me strange but isn't the whole idea of DJ Koze using skew-whiff/unexpected/'whatever the hell he feels like' approaches very him? Seems like you're reacting not to a bug but a feature.

I'm always more irritated the second time but I'm not yet sure if that's because it's so much worse or it's just like, "wait, what, again?" Possibly a bit of both.

xpost Ned you're correct but cannot one distinguish between good and bad variants of that.

Also it's not like Dear sounds particularly weird.

Or rather he sounds "weird" in exactly the way you'd expect if you'd heard any of his recent albums.

i can't remember being horrified, or the vocals really standing out either way. i'll take a closer listen next time.

i ordered new speakers recently, really can't wait to blast this through them.

xpost the lead single of the last album was good imo

I think that what lifts Reinterpretations above this slightly is (a) the array of different voices and (b) the fact that Kozalla respects them less.

This is still great though.

reincarnations?

Yeah sorry that.

Ned you're correct but cannot one distinguish between good and bad variants of that.

More than fair! I dunno, I didn't mind either appearance, just seemed to be part of the whole collage without skipping a beat.

bit disappointed with this so far, gave it a couple of listens yesterday, really struggling with the vocals :-/ it's way more contemplative/indie/magnolia/ikea lifestyle techno than i was expecting. missing the dark/surreal/comedy/sweatysex side of his sound.

haven't got a feel for the second half yet tho, maybe there's more of that there.

yeah, listening again, def enjoying the latter half of this album more. after the one with pizzicato strings/marimba/moody pads/deep house chords starts things get better. being a bit of a bummer here, 'kosi comes around' is one of my favourite records, had super high hopes/expectations for this.

Koze did a mix for Fader http://www.thefader.com/2013/03/21/fader-mix-dj-koze/

the R Kelly edit! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!

pretty great alright

The album's great, 'don't lose my mind' is a beauty. some of the vocals definitely rub me up the wrong way, but it's strong enough to put that to one side

das wort is amazing

^cosign

I think it’s my best work so far, and now I’m falling down like an elevator. All (my) music will be worse. I feel it. I’m over the climax, I realize.

You’re trying to say that you don’t think you can surpass it?

What? No, I already realize that it’s going down now. My time is over; I need too make space for the younger generation now.

This seems like a weird moment in that interview, it's difficult to figure out if he's being ironic. Nevertheless, I have been wondering about the difficulties facing new producers and DJs in German techno-minimal-house these days. Seems to be the same names around quite a bit these days.

where should i eat before swans?

lol wrong thread

I was all set to write this album off as nice-but-unexciting" up until the halfway mark but then it really takes off. The vocals actively get in the way in a lot of places as well, they're so uninspired.

Overall I think Kosi Comes Around is by miles the better dancefloor record, and the remix comp does the whole kaleidoscopic multi-vocalist thing better than this one could hope to do. Then again how many producers could put out an album that's as good as a compilation of their best remixes, especially one that's put together as well as Reincarnations?

I never thought of Kosi Comes Round as an album - just a collection of bangers.

I never listened to the remix comp cos I'd heard them all already.

don't really get the annoyance at the vocals - i mean i know a man singing is just horrendous and how dare he - but they provide the quirk that ensures this isn't just say... a compilation of previously released tracks.

I never listened to the remix comp cos I'd heard them all already.

It's actually really well put together, you can tell he's really thought about the sequencing so it works in one listen and flows like an album.

don't really get the annoyance at the vocals - i mean i know a man singing is just horrendous and how dare he - but they provide the quirk that ensures this isn't just say... a compilation of previously released tracks.

I'm not sure I agree with that actually, this would still feel very much like an album (and an event at that) even if it were entirely instrumental, or if the only vocals were sampled. It wouldn't be much poorer for it either.

It's actually only Matthew Dear who really gets in the way, he actively ruins Magical Boy, and his presence on the otherwise fantastic My Plans over the line from full to overstuffed.

The other vocalists are fine, but not exactly bringing their A-game... like when I think of really great vocal house records the vocalists either transform the track into something amazing, or are so integrated with the groove that you couldn't imagine it without them - try and think of any Luomo record without the vocals. I don't really get the sense of the vocal tracks here falling into either camp, the singers feel inessential more than anything else. Maybe that's a result of most of the vocalists here being producers who also happen to sing over their tracks, rather than singers per se, I dunno.

That said I think this is a great record, although I like it a lot more if I start at Das Wort. The production on some of these songs is incredible, at its best its like listening to a really lush soul record that's constantly being refracted into different shapes.

I'm not sure I agree with that actually, this would still feel very much like an album (and an event at that) even if it were entirely instrumental, or if the only vocals were sampled. It wouldn't be much poorer for it either.

i disagree really, a lot of it is clearly made to have vocals, this criticism implies the vocals were just tacked on after the fact of making a dance track, there's o way that's the case.

just because the tracks have enough distractions to stop the vocalist taking centre stage doesn't mean they're not important - but yeah he should totes have got some divas, woo, #ilm.

Even if it is made with vocals in mind, it doesn't mean those vocals couldn't be different/better. Divas probably wouldn't work though.

localgarda on some prime arguing-with-oneself shit itt

at least i have the brain power to make a sandwich.

Even if it is made with vocals in mind, it doesn't mean those vocals couldn't be different/better. Divas probably wouldn't work though.

that's a different point to you saying it should be instrumental.

I'm not saying it should be instrumental, I'm saying it wouldn't be radically worse if it were instrumental, partly because there's so much else going on. And that the vocals that are actually on these tracks, by and large, either don't add much or actively detract from the enjoyment.

I'm also disagreeing with the point that the vocals "provide the quirk that ensures this isn't just say... a compilation of previously released tracks".

personally i feel like slightly camp male vocals of this sort are a part of the original kompakt appeal, but to each his own.

In general I agree with you (the camper the better more often than not), just maybe not in some specific instances here.

He does have form like this, the album is actually quite like the International Pony stuff, I quite like that aspect of it.

The title track and "Magical Boy" are amazing pieces of music: vertiginous and protean. I'm glad I stuck with this past the okay first third.

The vocals don't annoy me - I don't know if that was down to this thread being a warning that made the prospect seem worse than the actuality.

What I really like about this album - and its obvious cousin, Robag Wruhme's Thora Vukk, is the way that it's a home-listening dance album that isn't "electronica" - i.e it isn't just music for the brain, it's very much a pop record based around techno. The production is so crisp and precise on the drums but the sense of softness balances it all out. Texturally it reminds me of shoegaze/indie more than proper dance music, but these tracks could only work with a techno framing and production.

I don't want to start any "there are no dance music home-listening albums" bullshit, but I feel this is different from, say, John Talabot or Blondes' recent albums, in the way that it approaches its own dancefloor potential as an aside more than a key component despite using many of the same compositional and rhythmic structures.

Texturally it reminds me of shoegaze/indie more than proper dance music, but these tracks could only work with a techno framing and production.

This is silly FWIW.

that's rude!

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The Mano Le Tough album is a better home listening techno inspired listening experience but this Koze album is fun too.

that's rude

otm, give it a rest.

a pop record based around techno

This is exactly what I like about this record.

Shoegazing and indie textures?