dj koze - kosi comes around

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on first listen this is absolutely wonderful.

tracklist:
1. estrella
2. raw
3. don't feed the cat
4. barock am ring
5. my grandmotha
6. dangernugget
7. the gekloppel continues
8. brutalga square
9. chininea

anyone else heard it?

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yousendit/slsk???

marc q, Thursday, 21 July 2005 15:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.higher-frequency.com/j_news/july05_d/13/1.jpg

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 21 July 2005 15:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

don't feed the cat!!

W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 21 July 2005 15:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

exciting!

pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 21 July 2005 15:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Describe it.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 July 2005 15:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

go on!

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

does the gekloppel really continue?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i got total 6 too, but i haven't even cracked the shrinkwrap yet! i swear this is the worst week to be on press.

kosi comes around descriptions coming up.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

1. estrella - bells, strings, pitter-pattern percussions, lush
2. raw - techno with lotsa grit and gristle, i love this
3. don't feed the cat - ending feels like being swarmed by bees
4. barock am ring - no beats, but not ambient, moodpiece
5. my grandmotha - feels kinda blunted, vaguely ninjatuney (!), harps
6. dangernugget - another trebly riff in asthmatic rocker/gehts nochs stylee
7. the gekloppel continues - the gekloppel, continuing
8. brutalga square - you know this, 9:39
9. chininea - ambient synths and acoustic guitars

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oooh

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Warm me with bees!

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oops! I meant SWARM

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

anyway i really can't leak this whole thing cause i don't want the FINE, WONDERFUL people at regenerate to stop sending me records, but i guess one track couldn't hurt, right?

here's 'don't feed the cat':
http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0CILUZHJXTR142XWUP0QXZP5YU

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I need to hear that track very, very loud.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 21 July 2005 17:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I hope it's better than his Adolf Noise album.

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 21 July 2005 17:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

god...that's some weird ass album

Rizz (Rizz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 17:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like this so far

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 21 July 2005 17:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

This is an ass album?

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 July 2005 17:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

it scans like a pretty standard kompakt album to me. (ie. sprawling, dilettantish, a little confused, sort of a buffet)

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 21 July 2005 17:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Really?? I always thought DJ Koze was like this really thrashy destroying techno-robot .. so that's surprising.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 21 July 2005 18:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i really like this track! a dubby rhythm & sound base with cool stuff going on over top

W i l l (common_person), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

WOW the breakdown on that cats track where all the synths double up on top of each other and then the kick drum comes back... wow! It's like an ultra tuff Maurizio. Is the rest of the album similarly Speicher-esque?

oni0n_kid, Friday, 22 July 2005 01:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i'm lovin' it. the cover art is strangely atrocious, though.

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

xpost yeah, and the kick is out of time for a while, then comes back. fun fun

W i l l (common_person), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oh yeah out of time kick drums. real fun in the mix. great.

(song is cool regardless ;) )

tylero (tylero), Friday, 22 July 2005 04:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the problem with putting brutalga square on it, though, is that its genius eclipses everything else on the album, even though the rest of the album is really good. everything else seems to pale in comparison to it. he probably should've just kept it as a standalone single.

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 July 2005 06:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

mark, PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT THE NEW SUPERPITCHER TRACK ON TOTAL 6!

Ronan.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 22 July 2005 07:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

heh, it's just the guy is so consistent it really feels like an event, him having a new single of his own.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 22 July 2005 07:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

that Koze track is pretty great, I really like it when they do pristine techy stuff, and nice Chicagoey touches to it too.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 22 July 2005 07:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oh here comes the fucking kaos pad! GROAN

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 22 July 2005 08:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Does it have to be mark, Ronan?

Having listened to the exclusives, it's apparent why they made it a double. Almost everyone steps up.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ronan: the new Superpitcher track is sort of like the sequel to his DJ Hell remix, it's got looping ethereal female vocals with 3 spare piano chords and a gently insistent bassline.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

haha ronan otm! the kaos pad's total recognizability will be its downfall.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

so is its recognizability like when a part starts to fade in, and it's not exactly on time, that kind of thing? have you guys used one, that's why you recognize it so easily?

W i l l (common_person), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i've never toyed with one (kaos pad) though several peeps around here have them. i'm still not even sure what they're good for.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

sort of, will. because it's so tactile and responsive it tends to stand out against other quantized elements. beyond that it really does have a signature sound (or rather, a signature result) which is instantly recognizable once you cotton on. i remember hearing it for the first time on radiohead's "everything in its right place".

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Kaos Pad is all over Black Dice's "Beaches & Canyons". It's good.

oni0n_kid, Friday, 22 July 2005 15:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah don't get me wrong, i love what it does! it's just not exactly malleable.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Nice track. So what exactly does the Kaos Pad do?

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.drakemusicproject.org/internalimages/4ckorgkaosa.jpg

its an effects controller that processes input sounds in realtime. basically you sample sounds into the pad and move/distort/swoosh them across the soundfield with your finger in realtime. the backwards/flipped/reversed/swallowed section of thom yorke's vocals on "everything in its right place" are kaoss padded to hell.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the best analogy i can think of is that it generates tracers for your selected input

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It looks cool.


I like DJ Koze

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It does look and sound cool. Two 's's in Kaoss too. Sweet.

I didn't actually like Brutalga Square, so have not really bothered with DJ Koze, but I'm intrigued now. A lot happens in that track.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the track i uploaded isn't really indicative of the album as a whole. it's just that adam wanted bees.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

any news on when it will be released?

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's out on September 12th.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

September is looking sweet. there's a full-length Heiko Voss album coming out on Firm in September, too! and a Misc. album on Sender in Sept as well.

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Heiko Voss might not be worth getting excited over, his Call Me Killer EP only really had the title track (which was admittedly brilliant), the rest was awful.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Is Heiko Voss Geiger?

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah not much of this as as club friendly as
His other one off tracks but pick up is def tight

Ross, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:39 (three months ago) Permalink

been waiting for the right time to listen to this . tonight is the night i think

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:46 (three months ago) Permalink

Enjoy! Xpost

Ross, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:48 (three months ago) Permalink

"Pick Up" made me think of "Music Sounds Better With You" when I first heard it, the structure is similar to my ears.

Haven't had a chance to play this but I am very excited to see The Gist being sampled!

boxedjoy, Friday, 11 May 2018 12:28 (three months ago) Permalink

Worth noting there’s extended versions of both pick up and seeing aliens. They bang

Incline/decline (Ross), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:50 (three months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Kmpwbc9rY

Music is confidence (Ross), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:13 (two months ago) Permalink

extremely into knock knock

I know it's everyone's favorite, but I'm pretty obsessed with "pick up". like a melancholy air france. so basically the best music ever

k3vin k., Sunday, 3 June 2018 16:31 (two months ago) Permalink

it's sad to think / I guess neither one of us / wants to be the first to say / goodbye

k3vin k., Sunday, 3 June 2018 16:38 (two months ago) Permalink

where are brad and tim

k3vin k., Sunday, 3 June 2018 16:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Omg a dj koze produced Bjork album would be so good, I hate what Arca has done with her sound.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 3 June 2018 16:51 (two months ago) Permalink

If you like pick up peep the 10 min edit.

Also the seeing aliens extended destroys the original.
This is my favourite record this year. Sound wise it towers over everything in terms of innovation and ideas

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Sunday, 3 June 2018 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Like that casino slot machine sound on track 2 is so weird but works perfectly

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Sunday, 3 June 2018 20:23 (two months ago) Permalink

listened to the 10 min version a couple of times -- what am I missing that is different, other than an extra 4 minutes?

other early favorite for me is "planet hase". sounds like balearic dam-funk

k3vin k., Sunday, 3 June 2018 20:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Kevin you’re not missing anything really - it’s jusr longer with a longer fade but it seems to just loop the original elements yeah. Also of note there’s b sides to this record. Pm me if need be

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Sunday, 3 June 2018 21:14 (two months ago) Permalink

thanks ross, I heard “love truck” else is there?

k3vin k., Monday, 4 June 2018 02:32 (two months ago) Permalink

am really into “baby” now

k3vin k., Monday, 4 June 2018 02:32 (two months ago) Permalink

There’s also nein Konig nein

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Monday, 4 June 2018 08:41 (two months ago) Permalink

pick up 12" is just about my favourite record i've bought all year

William Thinkpiece Hackery (NickB), Monday, 4 June 2018 09:32 (two months ago) Permalink

much more into the back half of this than the front

k3vin k., Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Same man

Pacing is so weird on this record. The Murphy and pick up tracks bring it back to life and it soars onwards. It’s like he reverse engineered the comedown - the high comes later

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I think my prior comparison to dark night of the soul stands.
Like the sparkle horse - Lynch record this is featured with guests and there’s an aesthetic diversity? But personally I prefer the banging second half

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Been digging through the eps too and recommend

XTC - solid aside and fairly banging bside
Rue burnout - nice piano house track

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Feel like this could do with having a few tracks and/or singers shitcanned. Like I don't know who Eddie Fummler is but I never want to hear his 'Moving In A Liqueeeeeed' vocal ever again.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 08:40 (two months ago) Permalink

There are almost no good reasons for vocals on electronic tracks. You don’t need a singer to validate your music. At least he isn’t singing himself. Electronic producers who also sing are the worst.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 11:57 (two months ago) Permalink

When you consider that wipes out a massive chunk of all house music that's quite a statement. Problem here is that Koze himself can't really write songs, or the vocalists he chooses can't. They all sound like these disembodied heads grafted onto the top (same was true with Matthew Dear on the last record), by and large the tracks would lose nothing without them there. It's no coincidence that the three vocalists who do work here (Roisin Murphy, Speech, even Kurt Wagner) come from much more songwritery backgrounds.

His comments about house music annoyed me as well, for reasons I can't quite put my foot on:

"But the mood of house music is really limited. It was sensational for me to discover Kerri Chandler, for example. I thought, wow, this is deep and cool. But I began to hear more emotions in folk music. Why do we have to stick to two house chords? This is what I'm trying to work on. We can have more emotions in this music, but we have many formulas that always sound the same.

Like I vaguely get what he's going for here - building tracks out of four or eight-bar loops does tend to limit harmonic development but it's a structural necessity for house music and doesn't necessarily limit emotional range. But Koze's tracks are all built out of loops and samples as well, there might be more piled on top of them but the basic mode of construction is essentially the same - ie nothing like folk music or other supposedly more 'songful'/'emotive' genres.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 12:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Brother - save that for the controversial opinions thread, that’s just uh what???

Matt I get your point and will concede not all of the vocals are successful here - I hate the Jose gonzalez song. Clearly koze stepped outside his normal remixes - eps to make a “proper record” for better or worse. His reasoning about house music above is pretentious imo, it comes across as some Mighty Mouse shit. By and large I’m tired of all artists talking about their art and wish they would do what peej does and have some class n let the music speak for itself.

Anyway you’re otm that this is nothing like folk - perhaps the problem is koze is straddling the line between pop songs and house music without fully giving over to either, which makes the album a flawed masterpiece imo

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 14:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Artists often convince themselves that they're being really transgressive when they're not. Maybe helps them break through internal barriers, idk.

Also bld is a big Underworld fan. But also doesn't seem to be joking. So again, idk.

You're ... welcome.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:27 (two months ago) Permalink

My comments are coming from decades of defending electronic music from Rock fans who dismissed it. Ross' use of 'proper record' is getting at the issue. I feel some electronic producers, take Matthew Dear for example, believe vocals add weight and realness to their electronic sounds. This may not always be the case, and yes, I love Underworld, I love Bjork, I love Someday and It's Alright and all the vocal house classics. Koze has been using vocals for a while, so I realize this likely wasn't the right album/artist to drop that comment on, but hopefully my position is clarified. I love electronic music, and I believe electronic music is as meaningful and powerful without lyrics or vocals, and sometimes, I believe artists use vocalists to legitimize their work unnecessarily.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 7 June 2018 21:21 (two months ago) Permalink

I feel like the vox are cut up and produced to sound like samples and that that’s the point; the “sloppiness” is intentional and sort of an homage to the range of vocal presences in electronic music. While certainly ‘integral’ a lot of vox on early dance feels sort of “grafted on” on a mix level, imo, but then that’s just part of the overall sound. But yeah they’re def not pop songs. It really does sort of have an avalanches vibe

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 8 June 2018 01:16 (two months ago) Permalink

i wanted to like this record but i'm just not feeling it. most of the lyrics are embarrassing including the roisin murphy ones and "pick up" is good but there are literally hundreds if not thousands of equally good filter disco house bombs out there. i want to like his production and do to a degree but i get tired of what to me sounds like what paintings made on an ipad look like if that makes any sense.

a good vocal track is everything but they seem to be hard to do lately? maybe for artists leaning indie-tronica? louie vega seems to put out a classic vocal track once or twice a year.

you bet, nancy (map), Friday, 8 June 2018 04:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Electronic music can be enjoyable with vocals, with bongos, with airhorns, with MLK speech samples, who gives a fuck? The thing that killed rock music was precisely this gatekeeping, purist bullshit that stagnates a genre.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 8 June 2018 05:28 (two months ago) Permalink

^^hear hear

this is Angelique Kidjo in p4k today:

I get tired of people who call themselves purists. Before you start talking about “purity,” look at yourself: Are you pure? What is pure in your surroundings? What is pure in nature? The rhetoric of purity, that’s what brought Hitler to power—looking for a pure race. We are not perfect, and that’s why we are brothers and sisters. The fact that we keep ourselves divided is exactly what the people in power want us to do.

niels, Friday, 8 June 2018 06:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Ah, good old Godwin's law.

MikoMcha, Friday, 8 June 2018 09:47 (two months ago) Permalink

pet peeve: godwin's law refers to invocation of the third reich as a debate tactic following a long back and forth, not any mention of hitler

k3vin k., Friday, 8 June 2018 12:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Moka otm

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 12:25 (two months ago) Permalink

heh, 'invocation' not really the word I was going for there tbh but you get me

k3vin k., Friday, 8 June 2018 12:27 (two months ago) Permalink

The vocals are innocuous enough on this to not bother me, grafted xpost was a good choice of words.

I do think the beeDEEGEE record handles vocals better as an album full of guest stars. The vocals seem less of an afterthought

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 12:30 (two months ago) Permalink

The problem with Koze albums is usually that he doesn't fuck around with the vocals enough, this definitely has its moments in that regard but he's such a great remixer when he doesn't have too much respect for the singer.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 June 2018 12:43 (two months ago) Permalink

His remix with Dani siciliano is peak vocals for koze

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:00 (two months ago) Permalink

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4fSS36Xve4k

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:00 (two months ago) Permalink

pet peeve: godwin's law refers to invocation of the third reich as a debate tactic following a long back and forth, not any mention of hitler

uh - I developed Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one

Of course this is pedantry, but it might alleviate that pet peeve of yours ;)

MikoMcha, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:09 (two months ago) Permalink

godwin's law is dumb tbh

k3vin k., Friday, 8 June 2018 14:12 (two months ago) Permalink

The problem with Koze albums is usually that he doesn't fuck around with the vocals enough, this definitely has its moments in that regard but he's such a great remixer when he doesn't have too much respect for the singer.

― Matt DC, Friday, 8 June 2018 12:43 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this is part of a broader drawback of this album which is that he doesn't approach it enough like a producer/remixer, with a few exceptions.

I mean a lot of this is great but I'll keep drawing for the two Reincarnations comps ahead of it, I think.

I said in another thread that it seemed to me a bit of an accident of fate that Koze had become such a feted artist ahead of, say, Kalabrese, and listening again to the latter artist's 'Rumpelzirkus' album from 2007 I tend to think that album is like if Koze remembered to keep his jokey side present but sufficiently in check to focus on compelling grooves for a while.

Tim F, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Godwin's Law: You can't mention Hitler online, nor quote anyone mentioning Hitler

niels, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Maybe appropriate for that Kidjo quote on precisely those grounds.

And to invoke this within the context of 'purism'. I dunno, there's been tons of flat-out amazing dance music produced from a purist mindset all the way across electronic music from Detroit techno to Marc Acardipane to FWD>> Not sure why we have to reach for Hitler so quickly, seems like a fetish or something.

MikoMcha, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Anyway, also haven't managed to get into this record yet, have no profound thoughts or observations about it.

Also not sure why Pick Up has seemingly been automatically nominated as hit worthy. I mean, it's fine. I don't hate it, but seems pretty innocuous.

MikoMcha, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Tim otm re approach.

It seems he’s going for a more accessible ideal than some of his bsides or eps which tend to have long drawn out reveries. Also, lord knows why he truncated seeing aliens as the 8 minute version is deeply weird and jarring in the best way. Also the pacing is so weird on this record, opens up with a tim burton esque track which would give no indication to a new listener to keep going imo. Also as stated the 2nd half is much better. Plus would’ve preferred the original “I haven’t been anywhere but it’s on my list” yo colours of autumn which takes the guitar loop sample and adds rapping

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Fuck how many times can I say also. Early morning sorry

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Pick up makes me think of the article about Avicii talking about the key to universal appeal is to have lyrics that are easily understood by anyone & emotional but kind of empty of meaning, something like that

badg, Friday, 8 June 2018 15:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Lyrics to pick up aren’t empty tho

We’ve all felt that way

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 16:28 (two months ago) Permalink


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