C/D/S/D: Minutemen

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All I know about them: - Many of their songs were just one minute long.
- Their mythic album is called "Double Nickels on the Dime"
- One band member was killed in an accident(?)
- I listened to one song last night and I liked it.
- I did not find a thread on ILM on them. Now it is your turn. Classic or Dud? Search and Destroy!

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

BRIAN MACDONALD TO THREAD!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Ca

helenfordsdale, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think your option of it being DUD got me a bit too excited/angry. Or maybe Ca(lifornia)? Whatever. Classic all the way. DBoon died with a Meltzer poem in his pocket.

helenfordsdale, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

If you had to choose just one Minutemen release, "Double Nickels On The Dime" would be it. But search out the Post Mersh collections if you can.. in particular #2, which has the "Buzz or Howl Under The Influence Of Heat" and "Project: Mersh" EPs on one CD. "Three Way Tie" for last is alright, though it's mostly covers. "Ballot Result" is a nice collection of rarities and oddities, release post D. Boon...

Yeah, it was D. Boon who died in a car accident in late 1985.

Do you remember the song? Because while most Minutemen fans like all Minutemen, there is a difference between, say, "Search" (off "The Punch Line" me thinks) and "Tour Spiel" (off "Project: Mersh")

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The song was actually "Tour Spiel". It rocks.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

what is compiled on Post-Mersh Volume 3 (or the cassette comp "My First Bells" with the Pettibon cover) is the best music the minutemen ever recorded.

http://gygax.pitas.com, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow.. if you liked "Tour Spiel", then maybe you're better off checking out fIREHOSE for the time being... I like that song quite a bit, despite it being passed over by a lot of Minutemen fanatics. "Tour Spiel" is definitely a departure for what most would consider classic Minutemen, that's fer sure.

Well, get a listen to Post Mersh Vol 2 if ya can, in that case.

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

fIREHOSE. Oh yes. I had forgotten that Mike Watt was in the Minutemen. I saw him live about a year ago with Mr Dinosaur Jr in Berlin. Not a great concert. But Watt was much better than Mascis who has really lost it I find.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I realize this is completely heretical, but "Paranoid Time" is the only record by them I really like much.

Douglas, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

In an effort to confuse anyone looking for a recommendation, I'm gonna disagree with the previous two Minutemen fans and state unequivocally that "What Makes A Man Start Fires?" (Compiled on "Post- Mersh Vol. 1" with the not-quite-as-great "The Punch Line"). All the rest of the stuff is great, too (although "Double Nickles" has some less than entralling stuff) but I'd definitely start here.

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

. . . is the Minutemen's best album. Woops.

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Their music is full of life, full of joy. 'Double Nickels on the Dime' is an astonishing record. Even though their songs last between 1-3 minutes they it doesn't feel that way. They don't play that fast (cf. to husker du circa Zen Arcade).

Track it down today.

Julio Desouza, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that song quite a bit, despite it being passed over by a lot of Minutemen fanatics.

FANAAAATICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andy K, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I LUV _Double Nickels_. LUV LUV LUV. Love it so much that I think I'm purposely avoiding the other Minutemen records (though those damn $15.99 pricetags aren't helping any, damn it).

Is it true that the vinyl version of _Double Nickels_ contains more tracks than the sonically superior static-free Compact Disc version?

And this is going to be completely unsurprising, but the least enjoyable moment on _Double Nickels_ is that song w/ lyrics written by Henry Rollins. (That's one track out of, what, 47?)

Should I talk about _Double Nickels_ more? I really like _Double Nickels_. A lot.

David Raposa, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

CD version has less tracks (i think its four less) so get it on double LP (the double LP being cheaper than the CD).

Julio Desouza, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Also Mike Watt sez the CD mastering of Double Nickels is a total botch job.

John Darnielle, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

post mersh vol. 3

god given

Gage-o, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"the sonically superior static-free Compact Disc version"--let's not get into this again

g, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway, Double Nickels is great. Three-way tie is great too. Others good as well, though i have never heard What Makes Man Start Fires?

g, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Also Mike Watt sez the CD mastering of Double Nickels is a total botch job.

The initial version ate, but they rereleased it with the original mastering dealy-bop from vinyl, which is what I have. Sounds pretty good to me.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Re: the "super terrific compact disc" comment - must I denote sarastic jokey jokes with loads of emoticons and lots of CAPITALS so as to not inspire seething rage from other posters?

This is what I get for having a dry wit. Sheesh.

David Raposa, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i went over my head i guess...

g, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i(t)

g, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Search: Ballot Results!!! The Minutemen put ballots in a bunch of record stores around la and had people vote for their favorite songs. Then they played them live in order on KXLU. I think thats the bulk of the Ballot results album. That one is great i think its my favorite release. BTW i got into the minutemen when i was 15 when my older stoner neighbor that liked zappa and drove a van left double nickles at my house.i can honestly say that it changed my view on music forever.

chaki, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw somewhere a few months ago where Joe Strummer was asked to name the greatest punk band of all time, and he said something like "Probably the Minutemen, right?"

andy, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The Minutemen put ballots in a bunch of record stores around la and had people vote for their favorite songs. Then they played them live in order on KXLU.

I thought that this was the plan, but Boon died before they could do any performance specific to this project so they had to use existing tapes of the voted-for songs.

Also, "double nickels on the dime" is trucker slang for driving at 55 mph on the 10 freeway, or so I was told. You can see a 10 fwy sign on the cover photo. I think you can also see the speedometer but I don't remember if it's 55.

nickn, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

55 mph on the 10 freeway

Interesting. I always thought it just meant going exactly 55.

The ballots for Ballot Result were included in 3Way Tie for Last and also handed out at shows. People were asked to vote for their favorite songs that the Minutemen played live. I think I still have a ballot. I never listened to the album much - I think it was that extended version of "No One" that ruined it for me.

Dave225, Monday, 11 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

It does mean going exactly 55 miles per hour, and was in fact a reaction to Sammy Hagar. If for nothing else, classic status must be given right there.

I love the minutemen very much. My favorite minutemen record is "Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat," but all of them are wonderful. The fIREHOSE records were never as good as their concerts. Watt's second solo record, "Contemplating the Engine Room", is lovely.

Colin Meeder, Monday, 11 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Was lucky enough to catch one of Watt's many local shows here in Costa Mesa with the trio line-up that recorded Contemplating -- Nels Cline's solo on "Liberty Calls" could have woken the dead.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"Exactly" does sound like a better interpretation of "on the dime," the thing I read may have been wrong. I saw the Minutemen once at LA's long-since-cancelled Street Scene festival - two days of free music etc over a nine square block area - and it was rivetting. I saw fIREHOSE once and they were good but no match for their precursors.

There's a guy that maintains a Minutemen web page that's very good, www.evol.org, but I couldn't get there just now. He also likes Sonic Youth (explaining the name of the site).

nickn, Monday, 11 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I realize this is completely heretical, but "Paranoid Time" is the only record by them I really like much.

Me too, completely. "Double Nickles" is good but a little of it goes a long way. And the later stuff is just cheesy college rock.

Kris, Monday, 11 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I couldn't ever call anything George Hurley was involved with "Cheesy College Rock."

George won't have it, man.

Dave225, Monday, 11 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

when i was 16 i looked up george's name in the phone book and called him. he was really nice. him and his girlfriend invited me over for dinner but i was too far away.

chaki, Monday, 11 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Hurley is so underrated. Hurley was the best hardcore drummer around. I haven't heard any of the Red Crayola that he's been a part of - just haven't gotten around to it.

And I'd much rather hang out with Hurley than with Watt.

Dave225, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
.. clearing up a myth:

this is directly from Mike Watt:

"the I-10 runs east-west, from santa monica, ca to jacksonville, fl. the I-110 (harbor freeway) goes to pedro (actually ends there). in the days of that picture though, it was called california route 11.

the "dime" part means doing exactly 55 mph in your car.

on both wheels, watt"

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 30 January 2003 12:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Every indie band in America owes Mike Watt a drink.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 30 January 2003 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

From Watt's hootpage:


january 10, 2003

a happy 2003 for all. very sad about joe strummer passing from this life, strangely on the same day as d. boon did (december 22), seventeen years later. he will be missed. let me relate a funny thing about me and d. boon when we were younger: as boys, we were way into the who but never realized that folks like them from england in those days sang rock w/u.s. accents. later, when we first heard english punk rockers sing, we were convinced that a cat like joe strummer sounded the way he did cuz he was singing w/a cigarette in his mouth or something. it was a mindblow for us to find out he was actually singing w/the same accent that he talked like. weren't we a couple of corndogs, huh? me and d. boon liked that first clash record, the one w/the green cover and the singles that came out before it. we saw them w/the dils and bo diddly, saw kickboy get hurt by asshole bouncers. I put joe's name in a song I wrote for d. boon back then called "history lesson, part two." bye, joe.

J (Jay), Thursday, 30 January 2003 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Minutemen? Never heard them, but wish I had.
I like Firehose a lot.
Here's a capsule review I recently wrote for Firehose's
"Ragin, Full On"

What an exciting band! Firehose plays funky, uptempo music with an infectious spirit of adventure.
Funk, folk, prog, (good) poetry, and totally original songwriting are all extant, united only by a
an incredibly tight band. And trust me, in the technical department, firehose is definitely one of the best
bands I've ever heard. Every groove is perfectly locked in, not like a machine, but like road dogs who have
been rehearsing together, night and day, for decades. But this is no wankfest, and Firehose bears no
relation to any "jam" band. The songs are intelligent, economic (few break the 3-minute barrier) and
sometimes very affecting.
Standout tracks: "Locked In","This", and "Things Could Turn Around," which sounds like a
stripped down, mournful Yes demo
Rating: 9 out of 10

Squirlplise, Thursday, 30 January 2003 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

''very sad about joe strummer passing from this life, strangely on the same day as d. boon did (december 22)''

juist before i went on holiday in december I was arguing with anthony miccio. it was a clash vs minuteman thing.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 30 January 2003 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

THE SONG SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone who likes it is probably a Nazi sympathizer and should have their intestines removed with a spork. Fuck you guys. I hate you.

"Chester" McCormick, Friday, 31 January 2003 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, god I love this band.

Absolutely heartbreaking and mindblowing and smile-inducing. I've seen Mike Watt live a couple times, and each time he's done some old Minutemen tunes. He shook my hand and I helped him load stuff in (I got to the club early, due to miscommunication.) He's one of my heroes.

Search:
-"Do You Want New Wave Or Do You Want The Truth?"
-"Sickles & Hammers" (awesome instrumental later covered by Sebadoh)
-"Cohesion" (also an awesome instrumental)
-"Joy"
-"Bob Dylan Wrote Propaganda Songs"
-"Shit From An Old Notebook"
-"History Lesson, Part II"
-"Jesus & Tequila"
-"Shit You Hear At Parties"

Destroy:
-the covers EP, "Tour Spiel"
-some of the early stuff (mostly the latter half of the "Politics of Time" comp.) because it sounds like it was recorded with a mic buried under a few inches of dirt.

Classic.

Ian Johnson, Friday, 31 January 2003 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I just went to San Pedro for the first time while in L.A. for a Daredevil junket. It's beautiful. Poor and beautiful. I walked from the Maritime Museum to the studio where Mike Watt is recording his next album, then to the Sacred Grounds coffee shop nearby, where the Minutemen used to play. I asked the owner where the Minutemen landmarks were. He laughed, I felt like a tourist.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

I never really listened to much Minutemen before, but I spent this afternoon watching We Jam Econo and I think I could definitely become a fan. I wasn't expecting such joyful sounds, what a trip

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:04 (six years ago) link

oh man you are in for a treat

some dude, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:09 (six years ago) link

I'm excited!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:23 (six years ago) link

oh man you are in for a treat

― some dude, Monday, January 28, 2013 7:09 PM (15 minutes ago)

so otm

Dr. Alfred P. Falfa (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:25 (six years ago) link

srsly

let's go do some crimes (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:27 (six years ago) link

i wanna watch we jam econo now

that and the fugazi doc always make me want to, you know, go out and do something with my life

let's go do some crimes (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:27 (six years ago) link

Yea, enjoyed Jam Econo and have fond memories of seeing those guys in DC and Baltimore gigs.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 02:02 (six years ago) link

Very nice. Will read it all later

curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 February 2013 15:27 (six years ago) link

yeah good stuff, at least what i've read so far. Watt is always great to talk to -- one of my first interviews and still one of the best.

some dude, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:24 (six years ago) link

xxp to make a well-worn point I don't think any critical need for Minutemen remastering on CD compares to Husker Du.....not just for the whole Spot/SST thing but that both bands were sonically so different. Different needs.

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:04 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Probably missed this already shared elsewhere on here but if it wasn't...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4W5jP_Gmrg

It was 1985. Brett & my bdays are in June. We had both just graduated from college. We had a birthday/graduation party at his mom's house on the outskirts of San Pedro. The Minutemen played. It was a great day.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 16:21 (five years ago) link

Ooh, can't wait to watch that properly when I get home!

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 17:58 (five years ago) link

Odd to think that this band playing in someone's mom's driveway is near the end of their career, rather than the beginning. Boon would die later that year. This video is fantastic, thanks Ned.

Fakeprog Nilsson (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:00 (five years ago) link

Yer welcome!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:13 (five years ago) link

epic.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:18 (five years ago) link

It's takes about 17 minutes to get warmed up and work out equipment stuff, then BANG ZOOM POW

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:26 (five years ago) link

To a lot of people in 1985 (myself included), the Minutemen were one of the 2-3 best bands in the world. To have them play in your driveway ...

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:28 (five years ago) link

So this happened two months after I saw them in Providence, RI.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:31 (five years ago) link

Awww. I still need to read that Mike Watt talking about his fave albums interview I saw recently. Finally read that thing about how he grabs some sleep before gigs on tour (with that sad initial reference in it to the vehicle crash when D Boon died).

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:57 (five years ago) link

I love the way Watt thinks, and the way he phrases things:

"The way T. Rex records were released on eight-track cartridges was also influential on Minutemen I think. The way eight-tracks were mechanically organised is they'd cut right into the songs, end them half way through, divide them up, so it was like that Wire thing again."

A Perfect Ratio of Choogle to Jam (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 15 March 2014 18:41 (five years ago) link

Yeah, the way he speaks and the way he thinks are utterly unique.

So cool that he finally met and played with Blue Oyster Cult after all these years!

acluelessdic (some dude), Saturday, 15 March 2014 19:39 (five years ago) link

Oh man that Quietus thing is so wonderful. Watt is probably the most enjoyable interview in the world. The way he speaks about music, art, life, and everything is just so sincere, open-minded, big-hearted, and like others are saying, totally unique and flavorful. And it's so sweet how he never stops talking about D. Boon and what a big deal he was to him.

This is also good timing because I just bought a hugely expensive plane ticket to see him close out the Missingmen tour in London. I saw them do the opera in Minneapolis in 2012 and it was easily a top 3 all-time live concert experience for me.

JRN, Saturday, 15 March 2014 19:59 (five years ago) link

That driveway party is so awesome! The biggest Minutemen mystery for me is how this working class band from San Pedro raised on CCR and BOC and inspired by punk even accidentally turned into this leftwing jazz-fusion juggernaut.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 March 2014 20:17 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Been listening to an old cd of Double Nickels in my car over the last couple days. It sounds perfect, especially when compared to Husker Du from the same era. Must have to do with the fact that Minutemen used no distortion at all, no overdubs etc. ive never heard the full Double Nickels with the missing songs.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 9 May 2014 16:37 (five years ago) link

man that Quietus thing is great, missed that

The thing I found about getting older is the danger is you think you know it all, and I try to fight that, man, 'cause everyone's got something to teach you.

love this dude

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Friday, 9 May 2014 17:24 (five years ago) link

Love the shoutout for Tyranny and Mutation. I always knew these guys were into BOC

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 9 May 2014 18:54 (five years ago) link

They covered 'The Red and The Black', twice, and they gave a lyrical shout-out to E Bloom. They were even set to work with him before D Boon's accident. They were demonstrably BOC fans!

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 10 May 2014 08:54 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Okay so I think any fan will need this book talked about here:

http://larecord.com/interviews/2015/06/04/a-wailing-of-a-town-an-oral-history-of-early-san-pedro-punk-interview

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 June 2015 04:33 (four years ago) link

Direct order link here -- hell, I'm getting it now.

http://endfwy.bigcartel.com/product/a-wailing-of-a-town-an-oral-history-of-early-san-pedro-punk-and-more-1977-1985

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 June 2015 04:37 (four years ago) link

Yes, can't wait to read it!

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 5 June 2015 12:56 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

What a vast, daunting catalog -- yet approachable. I tried my best.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2017 02:20 (two years ago) link

yeah it's tough to pick 20! I also love "If Reagan Played Disco" and "Jesus & Tequila" and "Corona" and "Cohesion" and "Paranoid Chant"

sleeve, Friday, 25 August 2017 02:53 (two years ago) link

“The Red and the Black,” named after Stendhal’s classic novel about political intrigue in post-Napoleonic France.

Pretty sure that's a secondhand reference to the color scheme of a police force that works. Dogsled on ice.

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:04 (two years ago) link

I saw somewhere a few months ago where Joe Strummer was asked to name the greatest punk band of all time, and he said something like "Probably the Minutemen, right?"
― andy, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just looked this up because I thought that was pretty cool if Joe did say that, but not quite:

Spin: Who would you say were the ultimate punk band?

Joe Strummer: The Television Personalities

Spin: Really?

Joe Strummer: Well, they're second place. First place are the Ramones. They're the daddy punk rock group of all time. The Television Personalities, they're slightly obscure, but they brought a severe sense of intelligence to it, just at a time when punk needed the piss taken out of it. And three, maybe I'd put in the Buzzcocks. Oh yeah, the Minutemen. Big ups to the Minutemen!

Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:22 (two years ago) link

Nice writeup, as usual! A few other favorites of mine: Cut, Take Our Test, My Heart and the Real World

Pretty sure that's a secondhand reference to the color scheme of a police force that works. Dogsled on ice.

Definitely sure it's a Blue Oyster Cult cover.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 25 August 2017 15:21 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

In which our hero, Mike Watt, pops in to comment on some soundcloud podcast about his music:

https://soundcloud.com/that-record-got-me-high-podcast/s2e50-minutemen-double-nickels-on-the-dime?fbclid=IwAR3yxUNXJJEt98VDR8yWpWgzOvlzX83pV19T_hrF-DtFVGuDEtSJFBXN8RE

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 03:27 (two months ago) link

you understand we needed to come up w/a bunch of new tunes to make this a double album so for the second batch we asked lots of friends for lyrics so our tunes wouldn't start repeating themselves in regards to spiel. for me also, words coming from different places than myself helped w/coming up w/fresh music ideas. on bass, watt

Valuable piece of insight into the process.

bendy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:46 (one month ago) link

fbclid=IwAR3yxUNXJJEt98VDR8yWpWgzOvlzX83pV19T_hrF-DtFVGuDEtSJFBXN8RE

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 04:19 (one month ago) link

Interesting Podcast. I've been listening through them since somebody shared the news of the Gun Club Fire of love edition a few months ago. There have been some interesting takes on things.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 10:45 (one month ago) link

mike watt really is an american treasure

Welshy's Lean Bulk - ****loads of pics (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 10:48 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Nothing earth shattering here, but always great to hear the voice of Watt:

https://www.latimes.com/food/story/2019-09-03/mike-watt-minutemen-san-pedro-busy-bee

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:59 (two weeks ago) link

Once my wife I spent the better part of day wandering/driving around San Pedro and we ate at some joint cuz I had heard Watt talk about it and it was great.

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:26 (two weeks ago) link

Unlike a lot of people on this message board I seldom revisit the music of my youth, but recently I decided to take a nostalgic dive and listen to the big four alt rock albums of 1984: Husker Du's Zen Arcade, The Replacements' Let it Be, The Meat Puppets' Meat Puppets II, and The Minutemen's Double Nickels on the Dime.

They all came out when I was 15-16 yrs old and I adored them all back then.

When I listen to them now they all sound really good but the Minutemen album sounds by far the most interesting of the batch. It's got the best grooves, the most intriguing lyrics.

I've mentioned this in another thread, but I'm eternally pissed off that I had a ticket to see the Minutemen opening for REM in 1985 but didn't use it, and D. Boon died only a few weeks later.

Josefa, Friday, 6 September 2019 03:45 (one week ago) link

Just saw that BGO has a 2cd compilation of the 3 Columbia releases by fIREHOSE Flyin' the Flannel, Mr. Machinery Operator and Live Totem Pole but no Big Bottom Pow Wow . Stumbled on it while looking through the site.
Shame the SST stuff can't be similarly compiled .

Stevolende, Friday, 6 September 2019 09:45 (one week ago) link

The My First Bells tape compilation on SST was a wonderful, wonderful thing, Wore out two of them.

Three Word Username, Friday, 6 September 2019 09:58 (one week ago) link

God that was a great tape

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 8 September 2019 00:53 (one week ago) link

I've been listening through them since somebody shared the news of the Gun Club Fire of love edition a few months ago

l have never heard of this. can you elaborate on it, stevolende?

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 8 September 2019 05:38 (one week ago) link

THat Record Got Me HIgh is a weekly podcast where 2 geezers from somewhere in Florida investigate the contents of an e.p. that has been significant either to them or a guest . There have been some very interesting episodes. Somebody was sharing the news that there was a gun Club Fire of love episode I think a bit after it was on.
http://thatrecordgotmehigh.com/2018/11/22/s1e35-the-gun-club-fire-of-love-with-special-guest-charlie-pickett/
The show started in March last year & is currently on episode 76 with a look at The Fall's Dragnet
http://thatrecordgotmehigh.com/2019/09/07/s2e76-the-fall-dragnet-with-jeffrey-weaver/
which I haven't listened to so far but was the first lp by them I got. Not sure why it was that one since I bought it several years later. I saw them quite a bit between 83 and the late 80s.

I listen to almost all my podcasts on Spotify but I think those links take you to something that will play the specific episodes. It will definitely take you to the list of other episodes.

Stevolende, Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:02 (one week ago) link

ok thanks, somehow i misread your post that there was a new edition of the album out. my bad.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:16 (one week ago) link

"Shame the SST stuff can't be similarly compiled ."

The 3x Post Mersh CDs out there have pretty much everything but Double Nickels and 3 Way Tied for Last.

earlnash, Sunday, 8 September 2019 15:13 (one week ago) link

Could do with a remaster though couldn't they. Isn't that all late 80s stuff.
I have a couple of them somewhere.

Stevolende, Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:23 (one week ago) link

I think you're radically overestimating how much "remastering" can even be done to a hardcore 7" from 1983 that was recorded pretty much live in the studio for about $100.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:12 (one week ago) link

Think the original comment was about the first couple of fIREHOSE lps.
But would like my Minutemen to sound pristine anyway.

Stevolende, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:40 (one week ago) link

The whole of Double Nickels hasn’t even been released on CD, so that’s a good place as any to start

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:41 (one week ago) link

Shame it isn't happening in the near future. I did have momentary hopes when i saw the BGO 2cd thing. Then saw it was major label stuff initially anyway.
Woulo have thought you could get the sound on the material that was on the compiled Post mersh cds to sound a bit better than late 80s cds anyway. BUT would love all that catalogue to be put out in best possible sound the right side of the brickwall problem.

When they invent time travel they can send somebody back with some wad and pay for a more expensive recording in the first place. or is that in danger of the grandfather problem?

Stevolende, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:50 (one week ago) link

Mastering from the actual masters (if they still exist) would be a start, as it's been said many SST CD releases are just vinyl rips (Paganicons, for one).

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 9 September 2019 09:30 (one week ago) link


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