Jazz in the late 70s / early 80s (jazz goes pop, jazz goes disco)

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for the longest time, jazz didn't exist to me outside of 1965-1976 (there were always exceptions, so don't get too huffy). pre-65 and it was too straight and post 76 and you got slick, overproduced smooth jazz and bad fusion. i also was collecting sample sources and before and after those times, you lost the funk.

but lately, like usual for myself, i get really bored with certain genres and i start opening up to stuff i previously thought was crap. i guess since i finally don't find disco or 80s r'n'b to be so terrible, i really enjoy this stuff now too.

so here are a few albums/tracks i really like.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre600/e693/e693524o2nz.jpg

Herbie Hancock - Sunlight (78).
i bought this originally because there's a slum village sample on it and the back cover is fucking fantastic. but then the track "I Thought it Was You" really stood out. it's a really nice upbeat disco track with vocoded vocals. real summertime vibe.

and then of course he goes and releases Future Shock. if it weren't for Rockit's almost novelty status, this would be considered an amazing electro record.

Donald Byrd had always flirted with pop. he had releases with gospel choirs and then in the mid 70s there was his run with Larry Mizell. Stepping In to Tomorrow (74) and Places and Spaces (75) are amazing soul/jazz/funk/disco albums. smoothed out, but never losing the groove. i recently bought "Love Byrd: Donald Byrd and 125th St, N.Y.C." (81) because it was a buck. it get's terrible reviews from jazzists, but really it's a good early 80s disco soul record. i don't have the record here at work with me, but i think Isaac Hayes had something to do with the production.

Everytime I'd picked up and listened to Idris Muhammed's "Turn This Mutha Out" i expected to hear hard funk, but was greeted with disco. wasn't feeling it at the time, but i recently downloaded "Could Heaven Ever Be Like This" from i think Nate's blog and am so stoked on the song. it sounds like my favorite Kleeer tracks.

recently i picked up a George Duke / Stanley Clark lp from 81 for a buck and it's total slow jam, synthy r'n'b goodness. one of the instrumental tracks sounds like it could easily be a GFunk sample. once again, no one seems to like this stuff, but i'm totaly digging it.


am i the only one who likes this kinda stuff?

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you should hear the Willie Bobo-goes-disco album Hell of an Act To Follow

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i'd love to hear what Roy Ayers got into in the 80s. he'd always flirted with pop, but the reviews say it's just straight up RNB.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh, speaking of Willie Bobo goes disco, Candido, the latin purcussionist released one of the most amazing tracks ever called "Thousand Finger Man" (i'll YSI that, it's sooooo good)

sure his woman loved him.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

am i the only one who likes this kinda stuff?

-- The Amazing Jaxon! (jaso...), July 13th, 2005 5:01 PM. (jaxon)

SEPARATED AT BIRTH.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

:)

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the Bobo one is great, lots of congos and horn and funky keyboards and disco rhythm.

I heard a Mongo Santamaria "jazz disco" album that was DIRE. Jimmy Smith did one too, Sit On It, also terrible.

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

xpost - i'm a darkie too. did you ever move to the bay?

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

palo alto in september!

so did you pick up the "british hustle" comp on soul jazz? it's all this sort of stuff. i was about to suggest george duke / MPS label but i see you know all about it. scour the cutout bins for the recent japanese comp "future sound of mps" for some great prog-rock-into-disco type jazz fusion. sort of a flora purim vibe, but smoother.

hmmm ... dunn pearson jr?

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sun Ra -- Disco 3000


If this is disco, point us in the direction of Studio 54! The album's one of Ra's greatest from the 70s -- recorded in Italy in 1978, and featuring some incredibly otherworldly keyboards that are some of his most enigmatic on record! The track "Disco 3000" is an incredible workout on synthesizer, with a tiny bit of drum machine, a little "Space Is The Place" breakdown, and all of the wild sound you'd expect from a Sun Ra album. The cut goes on for quite some time, and is really fantastic. Side two of the record features two more long tracks -- the sweetly soulful "Friendly Galaxy", a great soul jazz number, and "Dance Of The Cosmo Aliens", which has spooky organ, frenetic bass, and sombre percussion! (Beautiful legit reissue -- with heavy vinyl and a great cover package that also includes notes on the music!)

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

have you heard poopoo lala by ayers Jaxon?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh totally forgot because i never really heard his stuff as a jazz musician, but Mtume (Jimmy Heath's son) is the fucking bizness. "Juicy Fruit" and the whole "You, Me and He" album are fucking amazing slow jams. and he was sampled by some diplomat track.

xpost. that sun ra sounds great. haven't heard poopoo lala. great name :/

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

also, i'll look out for that British Hustle comp. i saw it, but didn't ever listen to it. i trust almost everything SoulJazz puts out.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Candido - Thousand Finger Man

there's a long (2min?) bit of silence/ambience on the front of the track. it's not broken.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

jaxon if you like that track i bet you'd really like dimitri's "disco forever" 3cd set. it's got a cover of love supreme, universal robot band's "barely breaking even", a latin jazz-disco cover of "ain't no stopping us now" with a huge percussion breakdown.

it's firmly on the "disco" side of the divide but with a definite jazz sensibility - lots of soloing, lots of creative percussion, challenging chord progressions, etc.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i'll look for that. when i first found that Candido song, i also downloaded tracks by artists such as Dexter Wansel, Kleeer, Suzi Lane (i think a moroder production), Bumblebee Unlimited, Universal Robot Band (i've also got a Cloud One Greatest Hits at home), and Prince Charles & City Beat Band.

also at the time i was picking up stuff on the more r'n'b-ish tip. stuff by Kashif, Evelyn King, The Whispers, Howard Johnson, Dynasty, Odyssey, Midnight Star, the Deele, Cameo (SOLAR records in general), SOS Band, etc.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Here is a link to a thread I started a while back about a record I think might be right up your alley.

Miroslav Vitous -- Magical Shepard

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

man, that sounds amazing! this quote from amg does it for me "(Imagine Star Trek doing the "Space Is the Place" episode brought to you by T.J. Swan or Boogie Down Wine.)"

i've often said i like music that has star trek qualities (those weird close intervals).

i thought i had a Vitous album (have the Weather Report albums), but just looked and it's a Michael Urbaniak album (great fusion album w/his wife on vocals).

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Weather Report - Mr Gone: Classic or Dud?

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

isn't it great how none of these threads get any response, but talk about rockism or dexy's midnight runners and you get 4billion responses by morning

here's another one: Taking Sides: Spaceball By Larry Young's Fuel -vs- Life On Mars By Dexter Wansel

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i have that urbaniak record too. with the wife. early 70's columbia?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's called Fusion, from 73 on Columbia

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i might ysi you the fania allstars appalling (in a great way) disco move: "what a big thing!" no real jazz (latin or otherwise)in site on it though.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

HAs anybody that SOLAR 3 cd box set (trojan style in the design)issued a year ago? it is good?

frNKESKCO, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 01:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

great track jaxon, i didnt read your other thread in time to grab the YSI's.

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I have this fairly good and extremely specific Luv'N'Haight comp entitled Heading in the Right Direction: Soul-Jazz from Australia 1973-1977.

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

it might skew a little too "acid jazz" though

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

theres a second volume too Gear! I once played it blind to a famous australian producer/composer and he cocked an ear and said "hmmm? Australian? you can always tell - the horns are out of tune..."

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Terrible time for jazz, and for music in general.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

There are few sounds more horrid than late 70s upright jazz bass (Beyow Beyow Beyow Beyow Beeeyoooowww)

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Terrible time for jazz, and for music in general.

you're out of your mind. the late 70s and early 80 are only second in my book to the late 60s-early 70s. you've got kraftwerk, the beginnings of hip hop, punk, post punk, the best reggae i've ever heard (On-U Sound, Wackies, Mad Professor), the best Funkadelic records, the beginnings of industrial (Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire). if you're not into this style of jazz (understandable, took me a bit), there's always the NY loft scene.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 05:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

in that period i was much more into the hardcore loft stuff, also the early rumblings of zorn/chadbourne etc. as well as (again obv) the uk improv scene, both of which interwove with post-punk developments in a way sadly simon r doesn't really get to the bottom of in his book.

certainly though, in '79 time it was something of a thrill to see both herbie h and toop/beresford etc. (flying lizards) on TOTP; it was a bit like "WE'VE WON!" (except of course we hadn't) the pop group/slits/prince far-i/don cherry quadruple bill tour was for me the peak of everything (at the time, and perhaps still is now).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 06:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

skronk jazz

Tales of Captain Black James Blood Ulmer (w/Ornette)
Dancing In Your Head Ornette Coleman
Body Meta Ornette Coleman
Lenox Avenue Breakdown Arthur Blythe
In The Tradition Arthur Blythe
Air Lore Air
The Great Pretender Lester Bowie
Are You Glad To Be In America? James Blood Ulmer
Black Rock James Blood Ulmer
Freelancing James Blood Ulmer
Odyssey James Blood Ulmer
Defunkt Defunkt
"Strangling Me With Your Love"/"Razor's Edge" Defunkt

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

harmolodic and/or post-AACM jazz, really, rather than skronk as such, but yes i bought all of these as and when they came out (77-82, more or less). The Great Pretender and Are You Glad To Be In America? nearly charted in the UK!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Similarly here. Personal faves for this era tend to congregate around Ornette and Sun Ra.

That said, I picked up Lester Bowie's WORKS compilation for a dollar the other week and was kinda knocked out by "B Funk", which appears elsewhere on his AVANT POP album. Is the rest of the lp like this cut? If so, I'm on it.

doug watson (solid air), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Terrible time for jazz, and for music in general.

you're out of your mind. the late 70s and early 80 are only second in my book to the late 60s-early 70s. you've got kraftwerk, the beginnings of hip hop, punk, post punk, the best reggae i've ever heard (On-U Sound, Wackies, Mad Professor), the best Funkadelic records, the beginnings of industrial (Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire). if you're not into this style of jazz (understandable, took me a bit), there's always the NY loft scene.

-- The Amazing Jaxon! (jaso...), July 13th, 2005.

No, you're right, it was hyperbole. But I stand by what I said about jazz from that time.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It took me a long, long time to appreciate late 70s/early 80s jazz-funk/boogie/disco-with-a-jazz-sensibility, but I eventually got there round about 1990, thanks to the persistent shining-eyed evangelism of my sister.

Favourite tracks:

(Falling Like) Dominoes / Wind Parade - Donald Byrd
Running Away / Can't You See Me - Roy Ayers
Expansions - Lonnie Liston Smith
Everywhere But Loose - Oneness Of Juju
Feel The Real - David Bendeth
To Prove My Love - Ned Doheny
Joy And Pain / Back In Stride - Maze
The Groove - Rodney Franklin
Risin' To The Top - Keni Burke
Dancin' - Grey & Hanks
Disco Nights (Rock Freak) - GQ
Runaway Love - Linda Clifford
Let The Music Play - Charles Earland
Dancing In Outer Space - Atmosphear
Love Injection - Trussel
All About The Papers - The Dells
I Like What You're Doing To Me - Young & Company
A Lover's Holiday / The Glow Of Love - Change
Take Some Time Out For Love - Salsoul Orchestra
Time Is Right - MCB
I Know You, I Live You - Chaka Khan
Annie Mae - Natalie Cole
Barely Breaking Even - Universal Robot Band
What Are We Gonna Do About It - Mercy Mercy
Brazilian Love Affair - George Duke
Southern Freeez - Freeez
Ain't No Time Fa Nothing - The Futures
Number One - Patrice Rushen
Miss Cheryl - Banda Black Rio
Los Conquistadores Chocolates - Johnny Hammond
Music Is My Sanctuary - Gary Bartz
Summer Madness - Kool & The Gang
Funkin' For Jamaica / Fungi Mama - Tom Browne

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

We might be talking at cross purposes but then if we can set Sun Ra's DISCO 3000 alongside the Mizell's productions then I guess anything's up for discussion.

Soft Head's ROGUE ELEMENT, a 1978 live recording, handily avoids the fuzo traps that befell latter period Soft Machine. This is free electric jazz that ain't weighted down by overcomposition or chopsaholism. Trevor Watts' Amalgam were into similar territory at the time. Just picked up DEEP (1977) and OVER THE RAINBOW (1979) on FMR reissue and both feature some nicely distracting moments of free funk.

doug watson (solid air), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Here is another album to file under early 80s skronk jazz:

Ronald Shannon Jackson & the Decoding Society - Mandance

earlnash, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
just picked up Weather Report's "Mr. Gone (78)" from the dollar bin and it's pretty fucking great. the first song "The Pursuit of the Woman with the Feathered Hat" is great, weirdo tribal world music. the second track "River People" that amg disses as being straight disco (this album is probably rated their lowest), is fucking great. it's got an offbeat thump very similar to Jay Dee. and then "Young and Fine" has a Tribe Called Quest Sample in it. granted some of the keyboard tones or the sax start to sound a bit smooth jazzy, but overall, this is a pretty good non purist jazz album

jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 23:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Never heard this one, will pick it up. I've seen it in many a dollar bin. There was a Weather Report thread not too long ago where I big uppped the wrong record, I meant to profess my love for 8:30.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 01:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i've had 8.30 sitting on my desktop for over a month. i should listen to it i guess?

jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 01:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Definitely listen to it! The reason I mention it is it came out around Mr. Gone, maybe the same year.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 01:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I wanna hear more of this stuff. I got Sun Ra's "UFO" off the On Jupiter album a while back from Banana Nutrament and absolutely loved it. I quess On Jupiter and Disco 3000 have been re-mastered and re-issued on vinyl only. Man I wish they would release these two on cd. Can anyone compare "UFO" to any of the stuff discussed above or to the other tracks on On Jupiter, Disco 3000, or Languidity?

matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i've only heard Lanquidity out of those three and it's closest in comparison to In a Silent Way or some of Lonnie Liston Smith's stuff. not real upbeat/disco beats, more downtempo/almost rare groove type stuff

team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i recently got Donald Byrd's "Thank You for F.U.M.L. (Funkin' Up My Life)" and it's pretty awesome. not even the closest relation to "jazz". it's almost like a Funkadelic album. a bit more smoothed out. very disco. kinda like a Tom Browne's album with "Funkin 4 Jamaica". i guess minus the smooth jazz tendencies.

team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

disco 3000 = not disco!

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i've decided grover washington jr = the man

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So is there anything else in Sun Ra's catalog that is similar to "UFO" then?

matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i've decided grover washington jr = the man

Hmm, interesting... where else could you talk about this?

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

^ lalo schifrin produced/written etc. my 12" is called 'dream machine' not 'undercurrents'

jaxon, Sunday, 27 March 2011 20:56 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVKAt8hAWBY&feature=share

amazing

jaxon, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:56 (six years ago) Permalink

ha, total jaxon jam

adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 19:47 (six years ago) Permalink

sweeeeeet

omar little, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 19:59 (six years ago) Permalink

That came out two years before Miles Davis's Tutu. Chuck Mangione, cyber-jazz-funk pioneer!

that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:08 (six years ago) Permalink

before future shock too

adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Enjoyed that.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 21:48 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

DAZZ DAZZ, DISCO JAZZ: It's the time of the season again, so revisiting this thread.

George Benson's In Flight!

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Also, just got Ramsey Lewis's Sun Goddess, and getting Love Notes.

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:59 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk3k7KYRE1A

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 28 May 2011 20:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Sun Goddess is so great! It sounds more like an Earth, Wind & Fire album with Ramsey Lewis as a guest than the other way around, but that's just a good thing. Not sure if it fits this thread though, as it's firmly in the early 70s jazz-funk camp. Anyway, besides the title tune, I particularly love the weird-ass goblin synth funk om "Tambura".

Tuomas, Monday, 30 May 2011 07:11 (six years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Really like this, I will buy this straight away if you can vouch for the rest of the album being as good as this (or at least close)?

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:44 (six years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

this is the best music for january

coal, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:52 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

http://www.vinylist-records.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/e/serpico-ost-soundtrack.jpg

I have been devouring this thread. So many favorites discussed, and definitely got put on to some new ones. Thought I'd offer up a recent discovery; the arrangements are Bob James. Some serious grooves amidst the standard backing fare. It's on Paramount, but it fits with the CTI catalogue.

Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Amazing thread. So much of this is right up my alley.

FunkyTonk, Friday, 11 January 2013 05:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Idris Muhammad is fantastic. Had never heard of him before reading this thread.

Does anyone here have any thoughts on Azymuth?

FunkyTonk, Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:13 (five years ago) Permalink

The Azymuth album with the spade on the cover is pretty dope. "Mañana" especially.
And of course, "jazz carnival" is classic.

brimstead, Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I got a 4CD box of albums by Jack DeJohnette's Special Edition, all released between 1979 and 1984 and now reissued on ECM. There is some seriously weird shit on here, including a version of "Monk's Mood" played with a truly horrifying '80s synth sound.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Nice, I love most of that era of DeJohnette. Are there any extra tracks on there? New notes?

FunkyTonk, Thursday, 17 January 2013 20:24 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't have a physical copy, only downloads. There may be new notes, but there are no new tracks. One of the big selling points is that one of the albums - Album Album, from 1981 - has never been on CD before.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Actually that's not true- I think maybe Album Album was never released on CD in the States, but I have a copy, and it's here:

http://www.amazon.com/Album-Jack-Dejohnette/dp/B00000DTF5/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1358531769&sr=8-31&keywords=dejohnette+special+edition

FunkyTonk, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

You're right - Inflation Blues is the one that's never been on CD before.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 18 January 2013 18:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Ah right. And I do want Inflation Blues, so I'll probably pick up the box, despite having purchased 3 of the discs in the last few months. Argh.

Funk/Tonk (FunkyTonk), Saturday, 19 January 2013 18:35 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i feel like donald byrd's recent passing has made me want to go and scoop up as much of this shit as i can

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:44 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Always looking for a good reason to revive this thread. Found this today, features include George Duke, Marcos Valle, Flora Purim (of course), Joe Farrell and many of the CTI usual suspects, although it's a Warner release. Perfect for the first summery night in NYC.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6m4qBoeu-XM/TMKXMURgnmI/AAAAAAAAC-Q/vfpn5fxKzzo/s400/Airto_TouchingYouTouchingMe.jpg

Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Saturday, 11 May 2013 03:49 (four years ago) Permalink

I love "toque de cuica" on that.

brimstead, Saturday, 11 May 2013 04:15 (four years ago) Permalink

I am really close to really digging the new Rudresh Mahanthappa, but I can't quite get into the way it sounds -- it has that shiny metallic 90s jazz sound that I thought had mostly died out. I hate the way the drums are recorded to sound more like rock drums.

THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Sunday, 12 May 2013 23:54 (four years ago) Permalink

oh durr, wrong jazz thread

THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 May 2013 00:00 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Pharoah Sanders on the bandwagon;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiNJzmtAfwg

I wanted to post his cover of "Got To Give It Up" off the same album but it's not on YouTube.

high inerja (seandalai), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:38 (four years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

search: ramsey lewis' ramsey from 1979. a1 and b1 are disco. the rest is more on the jazz-funk side. production is excellent.

JEFF 22 (Matt P), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:59 (four years ago) Permalink

lol, the rest of the second side is "don't cry for me argentina"

JEFF 22 (Matt P), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:22 (four years ago) Permalink

So many of these records are completely forgotten. I guess jazz disco just doesn't fit well into the jazz mythology that prevailed.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 02:33 (four years ago) Permalink

i was wondering that recently - to what extent was this stuff considered 'jazz' at the time? especially when you get into the '80s. now i suppose the standard image of 'jazz' without any hyphens is something that stops really moving some time in the mid-60s, but did the critics and the public think of the pop and disco moves (as well as the funk etc moves before it) as more or less the same lineage, in the way that e.g. rock was allowed to be completely different over a span of decades but still be part of a tradition?

opie dead eyed piece of shit (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 02:41 (four years ago) Permalink

I would say no. There is the stodgier strain of jazz criticism that just acts like jazz died when Bitches Brew came out (or earlier), and there's a more open strain that accepts fusion and/or out and free stuff. But I don't think there's much critical love for the music this thread discusses.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 02:46 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I wrote a piece for Burning Ambulance today about George Duke's mid '70s albums for the MPS label, which overlapped with his time in Frank Zappa's band (a lot of Zappa sidemen show up, including FZ himself on one album, playing pseudonymous guitar, and there are compositional influences audible as well).

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 12:30 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Nice, any chance you could recommend some similar stuff to that mid 70's George Duke sound? I've gotten really into the Brecker Brothers and Frank Zappa lately, but I can't seem to find much else.

what_have_you, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:03 (two years ago) Permalink

i don't know, but i do want to recommend a pretty unknown george duke recording: a three-song studio demo from late 1972 (typically circulating, as bootlegs do, with the erroneous date of "1974 demo"). the songs are "for love (i come your friend)", and two instrumentals, "psychosomatic dung" and an instrumental take on "uncle remus". all three songs are superb (zappa plays guitar on all of them, but duke is clearly the leader here).

rushomancy, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:25 (two years ago) Permalink

I will for sure check that out!

what_have_you, Sunday, 26 July 2015 01:07 (two years ago) Permalink

Does anybody know anything about Lenny White's late 70s/early 80s band Twennynine? There's a box out that compiles two of White's ultra-fusiony 70s albums and all three Twennynine albums, and I'm wondering whether to go for it. The band had two female vocalists, so I'm a little concerned that it's gonna be some corny, ultra-slick wannabe-Chic stuff.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 13:51 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

i've been pretty obsessed with this brazilian jazz-funk album from 1979 all summer

antonio adolfo - viralata
https://img.discogs.com/Y3haOPvkGKKbLACf0jgmQBjbu7o=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1928506-1324126080.jpeg.jpg

found out about it due to it being reissued (link) and apparently the opening track was a dancefloor classic (last song ever played at Plastic People) but, i've kind of burnt out on it. i checked out one of adolfo's other albums from the same era (tropical infinito) but it didn't quite hit the spot. Viralata has just incredible fucking melodies, and perfect playing.

have any of you heard it? can anyone recommend some other classics from that era? tia

flopson, Saturday, 26 August 2017 03:48 (four months ago) Permalink

brazillian jazz-funk = i'm in, thanx 4 sharing

brimstead, Saturday, 26 August 2017 04:15 (four months ago) Permalink

don't know if it's similar but search: Deodato - Night Cruiser, "Whistle Bump"

brimstead, Saturday, 26 August 2017 04:17 (four months ago) Permalink

bump

flopson, Monday, 28 August 2017 06:53 (four months ago) Permalink

whistle bump is nice. bit more disco than the Adolfo, but i'm holding onto it for sure. thx brims

flopson, Monday, 28 August 2017 06:55 (four months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

so dope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMP6AMS5e2Q

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

hell yes, love that track

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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